WEBVTT - Couple Reveal If They’re Actually Related 👧👧

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<v Speaker 1>The flex and Rooms Daily podcast. Hi, it's jazz session

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<v Speaker 1>at the Flexing Rooms Podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>All something a little freestyle, that's.

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<v Speaker 1>A little banjo. Yeah, I didn't do music in school.

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<v Speaker 1>I did one singing lesson.

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<v Speaker 2>Were you a drama kit? I already said this.

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<v Speaker 1>Honey, not a gleek just gleek adjacent. I did do

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<v Speaker 1>one singing lesson and I had to learn it's hitting

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<v Speaker 1>on the dark of the bay. It was fucked up. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>today we're can be talking about this article on the

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<v Speaker 1>Guardian that involved the City Winning Herald. It involved a

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<v Speaker 1>story that I think is quack science over the City

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<v Speaker 1>Morning Herald did apologize and I absolutely love Citney Morning Herald.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like my favorite publication. So no shade, just talking

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<v Speaker 1>about your favorite Yeah by far whoa.

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<v Speaker 2>I love them.

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<v Speaker 1>I love their angle like stories that they choose to

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<v Speaker 1>write and publish, having their like new that is really great.

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<v Speaker 1>I just love the seamless experiences. I love that Legacy brand. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>when we're talking about, uh, this story that they.

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<v Speaker 3>Throw the corpse Legacy brand, I love them.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got to be for some things in life.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll stand up some things and I'm just gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>talking about like quack science, my thoughts on vitamins and

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<v Speaker 1>strong thoughts. FLEX doesn't believe they're substantiated necessarily, but we

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<v Speaker 1>can come back up.

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<v Speaker 2>What you don't believe they're substantiated?

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<v Speaker 1>No, you don't believe there. Huh you said I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>done enough research.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah that I mean I don't think they're substantiated. Maybe

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<v Speaker 3>I really believe in them and I haven't done enough

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<v Speaker 3>research to disprove them.

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<v Speaker 1>I see. Okay, I like that there can be more talonsibility.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, let's get to it, Flex.

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<v Speaker 3>And I've been thinking about what it's going to take

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<v Speaker 3>to actually like save the world. Right, they say, plant

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<v Speaker 3>trees and reduce your plastic use, and I'm thinking, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>number one, who's planting the trees?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I haven't done it? Have you done it?

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<v Speaker 3>No? Not one tree in my lifetime. And this has

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<v Speaker 3>been an an ongoing message, So that's us out. I

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<v Speaker 3>did find one woman. She was revealed to me via

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<v Speaker 3>the Internet, and she's a tree planter, so thank goodness

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<v Speaker 3>for her labor shout out. She made this video about

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<v Speaker 3>one full day of tree planting and how much money

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<v Speaker 3>she made. And to say that I was flabbergastant is

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<v Speaker 3>an understatement.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, flabbergacid good or bad.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen to this and you'll find out for yourself.

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<v Speaker 4>I am a tree planter in Alberta, and this is

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit about my job today. I am planting

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<v Speaker 4>in pine trees.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what they look like.

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<v Speaker 4>You frequently plant other species, but this is.

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<v Speaker 1>What I'm planting today.

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<v Speaker 4>Every time I put one of these in the ground,

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<v Speaker 4>I make thirteen cents. In order to plant a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of trees in a day, I carry around these bags.

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<v Speaker 1>Which are filled to the brim with.

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<v Speaker 2>Trees, so thirteen cents per tree.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, if you have to visualize this, it's

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<v Speaker 3>not a huge you know, six meter you know, fig

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever. It's like a tiny thirty thirty centimeter chunk

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<v Speaker 3>that she's got to dig out the soil and the mulch,

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<v Speaker 3>pull in the tree, and like, you know, pat the

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<v Speaker 3>soil around it. So it's significant thirteen cents for one.

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<v Speaker 3>Now I was thinking, well, how many trees is she

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<v Speaker 3>averaging a day? You know, maybe she's doing like twenty

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<v Speaker 3>forty thousand trees and Siss is making bank right on average,

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<v Speaker 3>she's planting three thousand, one hundred trees a day, So

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<v Speaker 3>on average, she's making four hundred and three dollars a day, and.

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<v Speaker 2>People like that's a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm thinking siss is on the front lines on

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<v Speaker 3>her own saving the planet. I think she needs a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit more than four hundred and three dollars a day.

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<v Speaker 3>Like this is an essential worker. The rest of us

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<v Speaker 3>aren't planting trees, and you know, according to deforestation, we

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<v Speaker 3>cut all them down to be like parking lots or something.

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<v Speaker 3>I just think, you know, you have or we have

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<v Speaker 3>these really important jobs in society that aren't highly respected

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<v Speaker 3>but highly integral to the safety of this planet.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's all thirteen cents a tree. Yeah, that's not

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<v Speaker 2>good enough for.

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<v Speaker 3>Me, Like a dollar, a dollar, twenty a dollar through

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<v Speaker 3>five dollars something.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I've got a way to like mitigate how

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<v Speaker 1>bad that is. People that do those jobs't be taxed.

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<v Speaker 1>Tax oo along with nurses.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, this is a good idea.

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<v Speaker 1>Nurses and tree planters, just exclusively those two for now.

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<v Speaker 1>Things take time.

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<v Speaker 3>I also think trades are the backbone of our society.

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<v Speaker 3>Though we can't have a lot of things without trades. Though, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but I like I'm trading supremacy, the roads, the infrastructure

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<v Speaker 3>of the hospitals, the universities, or built by trades.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a lot of responsibility.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true. Shout out to trading men and women all

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<v Speaker 1>out there. I'm got a friend from school that just

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<v Speaker 1>finished her sparky degree hot absolutely slack.

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<v Speaker 3>WX And for me, what would you do if you

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<v Speaker 3>found out that you could possibly be related to your partner?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Why are you taking something to think about it? What's

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<v Speaker 2>going on?

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<v Speaker 1>Like? I'm like, can we have a non sexual relationship?

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<v Speaker 1>I want to keep the connection, Okay, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to have sex with someone I'm relate.

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<v Speaker 2>But do you want to date someone you're related to? Correct?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, a relationship, a.

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<v Speaker 3>Close romantic relationship, non sexual is what you'd be comfortable

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<v Speaker 3>doing with someone that you're related to. I mean, if

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<v Speaker 3>you love them. I haven't been put in the situation. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a fresh one. Not many can say that they

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<v Speaker 3>can relate them. There are these TikTokers and only fans

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<v Speaker 3>creators called Karlie and Mercedes, and they've been together for

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<v Speaker 3>like two or so years now.

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<v Speaker 2>They're established, you know, pretty like it's a legit couple.

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<v Speaker 3>It's two years, right, And so they started going viral

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of months ago for making couple content and

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<v Speaker 3>people are like, oh, you two are together.

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<v Speaker 2>We thought you were sisters and.

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<v Speaker 3>Noveryone's like no, no, no, like we are a couple,

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<v Speaker 3>like lesbians exist. And everyone's like, no, it's not that.

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<v Speaker 3>You two look like twins. And it is so true.

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<v Speaker 3>These two women look identical, both brunette, both have the

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<v Speaker 3>same kind of eyebrows, eye shape, no, the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 3>And at first they thought that the audience members were

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<v Speaker 3>being facetious because they're both like wiped brunette women.

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<v Speaker 2>People like, no, no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 3>No, you two look un canny, And so they started

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<v Speaker 3>making joke mean videos in response to them being related,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, taking the bit a little bit too far.

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<v Speaker 3>And then they made a video that alluded to them

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<v Speaker 3>being a little bit uncomfortable with the fact that people

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<v Speaker 3>kept mentioning that and wanted to know if people were

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<v Speaker 3>still joking or if it's real. People said, no, we're serious,

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<v Speaker 3>like it's you should get it checked out.

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<v Speaker 2>So they did. They got a DNA test. No, why you.

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<v Speaker 1>Sound sad, I just feel like I didn't like where

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<v Speaker 1>this is going.

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<v Speaker 3>Why not you've got a solution for them. Either way,

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<v Speaker 3>you guys can still be friends, you can still be

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<v Speaker 3>you know, romantic.

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<v Speaker 2>And here are their results. I feel like I'm on Maury. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>listen to this. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So Carly and I both got an email this morning

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<v Speaker 1>from twenty three and me sitting that.

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<v Speaker 5>Our results are in. So it's showing view your ancestry

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<v Speaker 5>composition and then view your DNA relatives because they have

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<v Speaker 5>fifteen hundred relatives here. Yeah, it says I have fifteen relatives.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't even want to look.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I can, there's so many.

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<v Speaker 5>We have to just like search, like filter it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm gonnahit apply.

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<v Speaker 2>No relatives found zero zero.

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<v Speaker 3>The TikTok comments have gotten in their heads so much

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<v Speaker 3>that they really believe they were related. In at no

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<v Speaker 3>point where they're like, well, no, like we can't be

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<v Speaker 3>sisters because our parents didn't have any other children. They

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<v Speaker 3>were like, no, we must be related because TikTok told us.

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<v Speaker 3>If you could see their faces, they.

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<v Speaker 2>Look so nervous.

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<v Speaker 3>Either they're really incredible actresses or they really truly believed

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<v Speaker 3>and even if they did, what was your plan? The

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<v Speaker 3>top comments say I'm so happy for you. It must

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<v Speaker 3>be a massive weight off your shoulders. Please check again

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<v Speaker 3>in a few days, just to be sure.

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<v Speaker 1>And I have never saying these people before, but I

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<v Speaker 1>just looked at their videos. They are identical in a

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<v Speaker 1>way that is sibling looking.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Are they're not like look related in a superficial way?

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<v Speaker 1>It's literally their expressions?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, then.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you sure that they're not?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, and you know what, who knows? It

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't actually matter. I thought that was a nice little

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<v Speaker 3>treat for us. I don't know what they're going to

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<v Speaker 3>do with this information now. I feel like, how does

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<v Speaker 3>your relationship come back from that? Because even if they

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<v Speaker 3>don't think that they are related, and they can prove it,

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<v Speaker 3>the rumor is there they type in their names at

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<v Speaker 3>any circumstance. Lesbian couple might be sisters. Lesbian couple who

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<v Speaker 3>might be sisters still date.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if their goal in life is to make

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of money on only fans, this feels like

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<v Speaker 1>a good kink to cash in on a fowl. As

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<v Speaker 1>that is, we've got freaks in ow midst.

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<v Speaker 3>In our midst, there's just five of us in he

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<v Speaker 3>who you're talking about, certainly not myself flex and a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of days ago, I read this headline Tiffany to

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<v Speaker 3>sell NFT pendants. What comes to mind when I say

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<v Speaker 3>that NFT pendant.

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<v Speaker 1>Non fungible token pendant. I assume it's pegged to an

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<v Speaker 1>actual product.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was confused too, but I didn't read the article.

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<v Speaker 2>I let it go.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, this isn't for me. I don't really

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<v Speaker 3>shot from Tiffany. I don't really have too many NFT's

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<v Speaker 3>not interested. Until days later I saw they sold out

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<v Speaker 3>of all of them. I was like, okay, now I

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<v Speaker 3>got to read this. Now I got to read this.

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<v Speaker 3>So basically, what Tiffany and co. The Jeweler Prestige Jeweler,

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<v Speaker 3>did is they created a limited edition collection of Crypto

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<v Speaker 3>Punk pendants. So crypto Punk are a range of NFTs

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<v Speaker 3>pixelated creature looking things. They took that character and put

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<v Speaker 3>that into a diamond encrusted necklace pendant. It looks really cheap, unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 3>like it's in my head, I think that you would

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<v Speaker 3>think it'd be blingy and hot and sexy. It just

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<v Speaker 3>looks like play jewelry in the worst way possible. But

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<v Speaker 3>it did sell out, So there's that congratulations to anybody

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<v Speaker 3>who bought one. Only people who own the crypto punk

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<v Speaker 3>NFT were eligible to buy this necklace.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I see that it is genius.

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<v Speaker 2>It's genius.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a nice conversation starter, also very limiting, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>great marketing.

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<v Speaker 2>So there we go.

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<v Speaker 1>As you were speaking, I was just thinking about how

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<v Speaker 1>some industries aren't willing to innovate just in case it

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<v Speaker 1>like cannibalizes what they've done previously, or it.

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<v Speaker 3>Just helps and it's embarrassing and they can't pick up

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<v Speaker 3>where they left off.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which side note, I don't believe in flopping. But however,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Tiffany are doing something really incredible here, like

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<v Speaker 1>cashing into a trend that is the absolute like epitome

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<v Speaker 1>of Internet, like forward thinking and like cryptocurrency. Obviously they

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<v Speaker 1>have done research to figure out the crypto's valuable in

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<v Speaker 1>a way that a lot of people don't realize. I

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<v Speaker 1>think they'm doing these even though they like don't look

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<v Speaker 1>very good.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a super interesting, even though they're ugly.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a good way to like create chatter and make

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<v Speaker 1>Tiffany here forward thinking. Yeah, I did, I've seen them before.

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<v Speaker 1>What did you think about it? I think it's clever

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<v Speaker 1>in the way that it's really creating a community. It's

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<v Speaker 1>another layer on what is already an incredible community. Like

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<v Speaker 1>these punks, they've just grown and grown and grow. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like creating a community out of something that has kind

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<v Speaker 1>of value that could be tangible, could be tangible, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think it therefore like creates a bigger community and

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<v Speaker 1>you really want to be part of the club. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think Tiffany's interesting. They're making their brand more relevant.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, do you want to be part of the club?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know enough about it, but I can see

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<v Speaker 1>the appeal.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's which is good, like the most prestigious

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<v Speaker 3>jeweler or one of the most prestigious industries collaborating with

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<v Speaker 3>another prestige prestigious industry to create this extra prestigious offering

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<v Speaker 3>for very few people. I think it's cool in concept,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think it doesn't do anything for the average

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<v Speaker 3>person who's like, Okay, cool, this really exclusive thing that

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<v Speaker 3>I can't be a part of. Did another exclusive thing

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<v Speaker 3>I can't be a part of. And I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>what it means, but it's interesting to talk about.

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<v Speaker 5>Hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>I think if you're an optimistic States bringing more awareness

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<v Speaker 1>into crypto. Not necessarily that you have to then get involved,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's an interesting area of innovation in money and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't you reckon?

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like you trying to picture to me and

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<v Speaker 2>I told you about it like this is flex and frooms.

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<v Speaker 1>On ked Lexie. I absolutely love Australian media tea, specifically

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<v Speaker 1>when it occurs to what would you call it, like

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<v Speaker 1>traditional established brands. What you know when like brands come

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<v Speaker 1>under like media brands come under fire. Oh yes's and

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<v Speaker 1>away with for fifty years.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Citizen journalism is now taking to the hands of the people. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And I find that's a really interesting like space to

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<v Speaker 1>be and when you're a traditional writer. This happened with

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<v Speaker 1>Cydney Morning Herald, which full disclosure, I've written for before.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a big fan of I'm a subscriber. The call

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<v Speaker 1>is coming from inside the house and they came under

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<v Speaker 1>the under fire via the Guardian last week.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh into brand calling out yes, there's no solidarity in

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<v Speaker 3>the community.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely not wow dog eat dog ye Guardian Sidney Mooney

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<v Speaker 1>Herald it. But the other day they posted in their

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<v Speaker 1>Good Weekend say Cydney Morney Herald right posted in their

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<v Speaker 1>Good Weekend. I think it was magazine about The title

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<v Speaker 1>was Shape of Water, and it wasn't about the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>It was about a story about structured water. Have you

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<v Speaker 1>heard about structured now?

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't. So it sounds like ice or a damn

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<v Speaker 2>am I close?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So apparently the Shape of Water is a bottle

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<v Speaker 1>by file On Water, which is a company, and they

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<v Speaker 1>sell empty glass bottles with a magnetic vortext device in

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<v Speaker 1>the lid which claims to turn ordinary tap water into

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<v Speaker 1>life of firm instructured water. You lost me. The price

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<v Speaker 1>tag is three hundred and forty dollars per two bottles.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait wait, wait the bottle are usable?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure. But a bottle of water for three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and forty dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>What if it's ever lasting, ever replenishing.

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<v Speaker 1>Nah, it just sounds crazy. Anything that's trying to market

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<v Speaker 1>water as anything but what water is is quack science.

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<v Speaker 1>And apparently the author isn't actually an SMH regular writer.

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<v Speaker 1>They work for the company, which is all conflict of

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<v Speaker 1>interest when it's not an avat oil.

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<v Speaker 2>Bon con and sponsored contente afterwards.

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<v Speaker 1>This knew when Herald wrote there was a story in

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday Life on the Weekend about structured water, which didn't

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<v Speaker 1>meet editorial standards, specifically due to a significant conflict of

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<v Speaker 1>interest for the writer. Matter is being investigated.

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<v Speaker 2>Yike.

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<v Speaker 3>So this writer probably allegedly pitched to Sydney Morning, how

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<v Speaker 3>I get this great idea if this water bottle? It's

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<v Speaker 3>so fascinating, And then you know, pitch went through. They've

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<v Speaker 3>published the story, done some research and said, hey, what

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<v Speaker 3>you work for that brand?

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<v Speaker 2>Pro'll be like, oh, maybe didn't mention it didn't come up.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, reminiscent of something that happened with the Sydney Morning

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<v Speaker 1>Herald twenty years ago about a similar story about war.

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<v Speaker 2>You won't let any of these die.

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<v Speaker 1>I am my own citizen journal.

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<v Speaker 2>Literally. What was the other story?

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<v Speaker 1>The same kind of thing, different quack science about water.

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<v Speaker 1>So where's the Guardian come in? The Guardian called it out,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh in Sydney One Herald and said, now they've done

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<v Speaker 1>this apology, the tit for tat vibes.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, tell me everything. What did the guardians say?

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<v Speaker 1>I'll get it up. Hold on, don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Frustrated, baby, you can't this is juicy juicy tea, Like yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So the Guardian called them out. But you know anyway, Nah.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to like this happens a lot between

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<v Speaker 1>media sites because it's important for journalists to take accountability

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<v Speaker 1>and for other like different corporations to call each other out. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this was published on The Guardian and it's by another

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<v Speaker 1>opinion writer. It's by a woman called Amanda Mead and

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<v Speaker 1>she writes City Morning Herald slips up on shape of

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<v Speaker 1>water nonsense. They wrote a story about the health benefits

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<v Speaker 1>of structured water and it was a conflict of interest

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<v Speaker 1>and it was very reminiscent of a story that a

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<v Speaker 1>guy called Paul Shehan wrote in the City Morning Herald

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<v Speaker 1>twenty years ago, which title was Wonderwater, and it asked

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<v Speaker 1>whether or not a two dollars eighty bottle of wonderwater,

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<v Speaker 1>which had not been subject to proper clinical trials, could

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<v Speaker 1>combat arthritis, fatigue, osteoporosis and help you live longer. But

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<v Speaker 1>this one is about Fion Water, which sells an empty

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<v Speaker 1>glass bottle that's worth three hundred and forty dollars that

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<v Speaker 1>somehow makes water better.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so we don't know what this Guardian article is

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<v Speaker 3>said because it's confusing us. But I've gone into the

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<v Speaker 3>Fion water website, which looks like it was built on

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<v Speaker 3>a two thousand and five Yeah, two thousand and five

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<v Speaker 3>fy website builder. The images were just quickly, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>chucked together. I'm looking at the Apollo gold bottle top

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<v Speaker 3>and two glass bottles. Okay, So it's not the actual

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<v Speaker 3>bottle that is that has the special abilities. It's this

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<v Speaker 3>little attachment that you put at the top of the bottle.

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<v Speaker 3>And so what it does is it turns ordinary tapwater

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<v Speaker 3>into life affirming structured water the way nature intended, and

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<v Speaker 3>the magnetic vortex can be used to restructure other liquids,

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<v Speaker 3>including wine, spirits, juice, and milk. So it gives water

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<v Speaker 3>a permanent negative charge like that found in pristine flowing

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<v Speaker 3>rivers and streams. It eliminates pathogenic microbes like E. Coli

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<v Speaker 3>and neutralizes toxic compounds. It minimizes the growth of molds

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<v Speaker 3>and fungi. But where is the mold in our water?

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<v Speaker 3>It reduces the smell and taste of chlorine from urban

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<v Speaker 3>water supplies, fair because like chlorine water is a thing

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<v Speaker 3>is that I never Yeah, for sure, you don't drink

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<v Speaker 3>tap water, do drink to tap water?

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<v Speaker 2>You don't smell that. Nah, I'm a big Mount Franklin girly.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know that's neither here in nor that it

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<v Speaker 3>increases the intensity of wine flavor. Oh, it prevents wine

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<v Speaker 3>from oxidizing. This isn't that bad? Yeah, not me selling

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<v Speaker 3>it to us. Look, I love gimmicks, and I'll leave

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<v Speaker 3>it there.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like gimmicks that involve things that you can

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<v Speaker 1>get freely, Like what water?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>And what else can you get freeley? That's beneficial? Okay? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I get another one, And I can say this. Any

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<v Speaker 1>kind of vitamin okay, I don't believe it. Some types

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<v Speaker 1>of skin care.

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<v Speaker 2>I think vitamins. It's all about that which bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Vitamins that I think Sometimes there's a misconception that vitamins

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<v Speaker 1>can give you stuff that you can't get from food,

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<v Speaker 1>Like pretty much most minerals you can get you can

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<v Speaker 1>get from food, and like, for example, if you're a vegetarian,

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<v Speaker 1>you might take iron tablets, but there's ways you can

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<v Speaker 1>get that in your diet in other ways.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't it the quantity or like the potency?

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<v Speaker 3>So let's say you would need to eat I don't

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<v Speaker 3>take vitamins, but you know, let's say you would need

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<v Speaker 3>to eat twelve bales of kale for this kind of

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<v Speaker 3>vitamin with this kind of nutritional benefit. Let's say you

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<v Speaker 3>would need to eat twelve bales of kale for this.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of nutritional OK.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, babe, a bunch a bunch of kale

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<v Speaker 3>for this nutritional benefit. But if you had one vitamin,

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<v Speaker 3>it's the equivalent. Isn't that how it works. They're not

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<v Speaker 3>saying that you can't get this in your body. They're

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<v Speaker 3>saying you'd need to have so much more of this

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<v Speaker 3>in your diet. And you, sir, don't want to eat vegetables.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe. However, I will say.

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<v Speaker 2>The research, not the uninformed. Without the research, this is

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<v Speaker 2>that the glass show over again.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't worry, the Marsha will come to fruition show.

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<v Speaker 2>The damn doc is going to agree that gasher doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 1>The vitamins thing, the issue for me is the markup.

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<v Speaker 1>Some vitamins are like hundreds of dollars and what do

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<v Speaker 1>they actually do? Not sure? And if you ask a

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<v Speaker 1>scientist they would tell you.

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<v Speaker 2>Lastly, they very sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Like for example, is like some things are marked up.

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<v Speaker 3>Somethings say no, why can't you just get the no

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<v Speaker 3>frills version of the vitamin. Why it got to be

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<v Speaker 3>the premium one that's making you mad at all vitamins.

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<v Speaker 3>I shouldn't get a little vitamin see the little chewese.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's three four dollars, what's the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>The issue is like, so I used to work in journalism.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to write about health stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh so, oh what guilt creeping back?

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<v Speaker 1>No, because I didn't write about I actually did, but

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<v Speaker 1>there was very specific wording that you had to use

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<v Speaker 1>in order to get something to pass editorial tests. So

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<v Speaker 1>you couldn't say that it would definitely like alter or

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<v Speaker 1>change things.

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<v Speaker 2>No, just it's claims. This claims too claims.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I just feel as though vitamin companies just

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<v Speaker 1>make too much money on something that's like there's not

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<v Speaker 1>enough education around the fact that you can get things

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<v Speaker 1>from certain food types. And also so much of this

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<v Speaker 1>stuff is naturally occurring in your body. Like I think,

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<v Speaker 1>unless you go to a doctor and get a blood

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<v Speaker 1>test and something's really off, then you should look into vitamins.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's companies that are like giving you vite into

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<v Speaker 1>the most whack random stuff that actually doesn't work. And

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<v Speaker 1>to me, this water thing is in the similar category,

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<v Speaker 1>which is creating a problem, which is why the wellness

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<v Speaker 1>industry is worth billions of dollars, worth like ten billion

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<v Speaker 1>dollars or something, making problems that don't actually exist in

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<v Speaker 1>bodies and telling you that you need to get this,

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<v Speaker 1>like you need to have a multi vitin when you're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get pregnant, or you need like elevate or whatever, like,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's so much I feel as though it like

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<v Speaker 1>disproportionately affects women, and we're told that we need to

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<v Speaker 1>like buy these things, specifically stuff like vitamins and specific

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<v Speaker 1>asking care things that you could actually just get either

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<v Speaker 1>home brand or like use set a fiel.

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<v Speaker 2>So I have a gripe.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a gripe with things.

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<v Speaker 3>Your gripe sounds misinformed, though, Like your gripe sounds like

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<v Speaker 3>your presumption is trumping the reality of a situation, because

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<v Speaker 3>you're saying, they tell us we need to but you

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<v Speaker 3>don't take vitamins.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't take vitamins.

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<v Speaker 3>So clearly it's not really working that personally, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>I see what you're saying on like a structural level,

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<v Speaker 3>But then you could make that kind of argument for

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<v Speaker 3>every commerce, Like you don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Need all of the things that we actually.

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<v Speaker 3>Have, but you don't have personal gripes with every single

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<v Speaker 3>industry for making stuff. This feels like like this in

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<v Speaker 3>the Guachha thing feels like really highly targeted. But also

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<v Speaker 3>I don't understand, like you don't have the info. You're

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<v Speaker 3>like they tell us, and I'm like, but what are

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<v Speaker 3>they telling us?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I have been the one that's brought into so

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<v Speaker 1>much of this stuff and it's faced much my life,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've been on both sides. I've been on someone

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<v Speaker 1>who is actively dismantling this kind of stuff through like

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<v Speaker 1>talking about with my friends and researching about it and

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<v Speaker 1>having you know, going to experts who are telling me, actually, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't need it, whereas at the same time being

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<v Speaker 1>affected by it subliminally got it and specifically about the vitamins,

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<v Speaker 1>And I just say, like, I think it's really interesting

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<v Speaker 1>when Instagram like stop people being able to promote health

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<v Speaker 1>products or specifically vitamins.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you remember that some screen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, there few others.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, well they were saying you could not that you

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't promote them, but they're saying that when you do

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<v Speaker 3>promote them, you have to promote the claims, not your

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<v Speaker 3>personal experience with vitamins or with sunscreen. For reasons like this,

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<v Speaker 3>where people are assuming, oh, let's say, you can't say

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<v Speaker 3>this sunscreen is the reason why I don't have skin cancer.

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<v Speaker 3>You can say sunscreen is helps to protect you from

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<v Speaker 3>the sun. So it's not that it's because you can

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<v Speaker 3>say it's misinformation. But I also think it's a lack

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<v Speaker 3>of literacy around personal research because I don't pick up

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<v Speaker 3>every product and feel like this is for me because

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<v Speaker 3>the label says something. But I think they're realizing that

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<v Speaker 3>because individuals don't have a duty of care to themselves

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<v Speaker 3>and they trust advertisers blindly, that there must be regulations

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<v Speaker 3>to accommodate for them.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there should be there are because I think

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<v Speaker 1>even if you have literacy, it's easy when these brands

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<v Speaker 1>appeal to your like for example, with women in multivitons

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<v Speaker 1>or have a baby, they're playing on the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>you want to do what's best for your baby, when

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<v Speaker 1>in actuality, you're wasting money. I'm not saying I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know who wastes money, know about ilevit or whatever, but

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<v Speaker 1>I just see a specific type of advertising about vitamins

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<v Speaker 1>and other stuff that's sometimes naturally occurring in your body,

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<v Speaker 1>and buying into it even though I don't necessarily believe it.

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<v Speaker 1>I've brought into it for I've brought into like health

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<v Speaker 1>and wellness misconceptions and it's changed my life in a

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<v Speaker 1>negative way. I just feel like, yeah, more discussion around

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<v Speaker 1>it is good.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel you. This is flex and froomes on FLEXI.

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<v Speaker 1>I just got a subscription to Binge. Nice is like

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<v Speaker 1>Stan and Netflix and Disney Plus, but it's called Binge.

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<v Speaker 1>I was watching the Britney Murphy documentary, so I've been

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<v Speaker 1>interested in Brittany Murphy and like, I think, I wonder

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<v Speaker 1>if it's just me, but I have this unrelenting interest

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<v Speaker 1>in starlets that passed away too soon exactly very specific

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<v Speaker 1>mysterious passings. I think because we place so much value

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<v Speaker 1>on youth and young women in Hollywood and it's like

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<v Speaker 1>the next really exciting woman that like the absolute epitome

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<v Speaker 1>of life and pop stabilities. Then for them to die,

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<v Speaker 1>especially mysterious circumstances, it's very curious.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, are you.

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<v Speaker 1>Across Britney Murphy?

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<v Speaker 2>Not at all? You know, she was in clueless, I

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<v Speaker 2>kind of I know, of her.

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't say I'm a fan or anything, but I

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<v Speaker 3>see her face in my mind as I'm speaking.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Britney Murphy was an actor. She

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<v Speaker 1>had to prominence in uh, what did you say, Cleueluless,

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<v Speaker 1>she had to prominence in Clueless, and see in some

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<v Speaker 1>other movies. She was in a relationship with Ashton Cuture.

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<v Speaker 1>At one point they did a movie called Just Married Together,

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<v Speaker 1>like really in that kind of like rom calm scene, quintessential, quintessential. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And then back in I think it was two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and nine, she passed away under really really curious circumstances.

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<v Speaker 1>The autopsy didn't really bring anything back she you know,

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<v Speaker 1>had There'd been rumors about drug use and this and that, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and lots of internet conspiracy theories, like some people believe

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<v Speaker 1>it's because her house was really moldy, oh, and that

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<v Speaker 1>it was for that reason. But essentially this dogmentary celebrates

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<v Speaker 1>her life also debunks a lot of those theories. And

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that I think didn't get enough press and

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<v Speaker 1>which is definitely getting pressed now is she married a

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<v Speaker 1>guy called Simon Mojak police name was, and turns out

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<v Speaker 1>he was a con man.

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<v Speaker 2>Ooh yeah, So in what way.

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<v Speaker 1>Would lie about being a billionaire and then get her

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<v Speaker 1>under his spell. It was very much Tinder Swindler areas,

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<v Speaker 1>but she actually married him, and I think the documentary

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<v Speaker 1>espouses that it was because she was in a really

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<v Speaker 1>fragile space, like she was going through health issues and

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<v Speaker 1>was like supposedly quite lonely. And it was just so

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<v Speaker 1>interesting to see how someone who you would totally perceive

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<v Speaker 1>as being in control of their life and super successful

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<v Speaker 1>can still be taken advantage of by a con man. HM.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's interesting that we have this preoccupation in

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<v Speaker 1>pop culture and on Netflix and whatnot of.

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<v Speaker 2>Pop culture and Netflix even pop.

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<v Speaker 1>Culture and on a platform called Netflix, we have this

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<v Speaker 1>interest in con man stories. And I think it's so

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<v Speaker 1>easy to think, Oh, that would never happen to me,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you see it happen to a woman who

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<v Speaker 1>is supposedly in a really privileged space.

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<v Speaker 3>So because it happened to Brittany, do you think you

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<v Speaker 3>are you more open or aware of the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>it could happen to you, Like, what do you mean?

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<v Speaker 1>I think so? I think that. I also think it's

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<v Speaker 1>just it's so easy to watch these shows and think,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, these women idiots falling for this. But

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<v Speaker 1>then it goes to show you can be you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter specifically your standing in society. It's more vulnerability.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it's like a really interesting thing to

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<v Speaker 1>watch for that reason. And also I think it was

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<v Speaker 1>unfair because so much of the press when she passed

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<v Speaker 1>away was kind of blaming her, like blaming her drug

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<v Speaker 1>use and this and that, and not really taking into

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<v Speaker 1>account the facts about this other person she was in

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<v Speaker 1>a relationship with, like having a child out of wedlock

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<v Speaker 1>before they met and never telling her and manipulating her

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<v Speaker 1>life prior to her passing away. And I would recommend

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<v Speaker 1>watching the documentary because it was also one of those

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<v Speaker 1>documentary is about a young woman who's passed away that

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<v Speaker 1>isn't like trauma porn.

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<v Speaker 2>Like.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the way that they illustrated her was showing

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<v Speaker 1>her when she was really young and happy, and you

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<v Speaker 1>can kind of see that light that she had within herself,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can kind of see it receding, oh, prior

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<v Speaker 1>to her death, but in a way that you don't

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<v Speaker 1>blame her. Yeah, it was kind of just a bit

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<v Speaker 1>like oh, but you're not like, oh, tragic. You're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's I empathize with this woman.

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<v Speaker 2>I got it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's tactic. I've sworn off all nonfiction for the moment.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to just be like deep in fantasy at

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<v Speaker 3>all times, so I won't watch that, but I appreciate

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<v Speaker 3>the recommendation.

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<v Speaker 1>My pleasure.

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