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Speaker 1: morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good morning, Katie, and good morning to your listeners.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining us. Now, I might start off,

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Speaker 1: I know that Catherine doesn't fall under your region, but

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Speaker 1: the domestic violence related death.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Katie, I can say that on Monday evening, police

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Speaker 2: On police arrival, they located a twenty two year old

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Speaker 2: you know, what can you say?

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Speaker 1: It's appalling and it feels like we're just not getting

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, I mean it's heartbreaking. I mean, what

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Speaker 2: need to stop and think about our behaviors, particularly in

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Speaker 1: Tell me, I mean, it doesn't sound as though any

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Speaker 2: Well, no, the investigations still got ongoing, and you know,

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Speaker 1: To go first, I know, There's been some criticism before

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Speaker 2: Look, Cadie, Anti Police across the Northern Territories respond to

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Speaker 2: The incident you alluded to was actually reported as a

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Speaker 2: So again we have to prioritize, We have to risk

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Speaker 1: Assistant Commissioner. I know it's not the O on the incident. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: Hey, just on Catherine, I know that it had been

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, let's hope it makes an impact for them.

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Speaker 1: And then in Alice Springs, obviously there has need to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Katie, that look, I'm not across all of the details.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it is it's just appalling when you look

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Speaker 2: Look, absolutely, Katie. What I can say is that no,

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Speaker 2: Fifty people have died on our roads. We're coming into

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Speaker 2: We still are finding idiots on the roads. You know.

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Speaker 2: Right, absolutely not. And the Northern Territory Emergency Services please

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Speaker 2: keep your eye out for their their advertising material. Essentially,

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Speaker 1: Good plan, good plan well Assistant Commissioner Matt Hollanby. Always

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Speaker 1: good to catch up with you. Thanks so much for

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Speaker 2: Is a pleasure. Kadie and I love your new studio.

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Speaker 1: Oh isn't it good? We feel proper flash in here. Matt.

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Speaker 1: It's very fancy for us after our old building. Matt Hollanby,

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Speaker 1: thanks so much for your time.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Katy,