1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: Good morning everybody, and welcome to the daily ours. It 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: is Friday, the twenty second of April. Happy Friday. You 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: made it through a four day week for a lot 4 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 1: of you, and to reward you, we're giving you another 5 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: long weekend Zara. Today in the deep Dive, we're going 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: to talk through the unfolding drama with the Solomon Islands, 7 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: one of our closest neighbors. But first take us to 8 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 1: the capital of the country and tell us what's been happening. 9 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 2: The ACT government has followed closely in the footsteps of 10 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 2: the Victorian and New South Wales governments, announcing eased restrictions 11 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 2: for close contacts of COVID cases. So in line with 12 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 2: what we heard yesterday at eleven fifty nine pm, next Tuesday, 13 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 2: the twenty sixth of April, close contacts will no longer 14 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 2: be required to isolate, but there are some caveats, with 15 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 2: the ACT Health Minister Rachel Stevens Smith emphasizing that any 16 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,919 Speaker 2: close contact with symptoms is still required to isolate. 17 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: Meanwhile, to Europe now and Russia has tested a Sarmat 18 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: intercontinental ballistic missile which is capable of carrying a nuclear weapon. 19 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: Footage released on State run. Russian TV depicts the missile 20 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: being tested at a facility in northern Russia, with President 21 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: of Vladimir Putin saying the test should quote provide food 22 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: for thought for those who try to threaten our country. 23 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 2: Wimbledon's All England Tennis Club has announced little ban Russian 24 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,839 Speaker 2: and Belarusian players from competing at this year's tournament, which 25 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 2: begins on the twenty seventh of June. The All England 26 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 2: Club said the decision was made to help limit Russia's 27 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 2: global influence through the strongest means possible. 28 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: And your Friday good news. Prince Mavendra Singh Golil, India's 29 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: first openly gay royal, has launched a national campaign to 30 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: ban conversion therapy in the country. The Prince had previously 31 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: turned fifteen acres of his palace grounds into a shelter 32 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: for vulnerable members of the LGBTIQ plus community. 33 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 2: Over the past couple of days and indeed weeks, while 34 00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 2: the nation's attention has been fixated on domestic politics, on 35 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 2: debates on the upcoming federal election, there has been a 36 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 2: situation brewing overseas and that is something that is happening 37 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 2: in Solomon Islands. Take me through what is happening from 38 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 2: the very beginning and why during the middle of a 39 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 2: federal election campaign we had a minister from the Morrison 40 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 2: government heading overseas. 41 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: It's pretty remarkable that a small Pacific nation has become 42 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 1: one of the big topics of the election, at least 43 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: this week. We don't know what is in store for 44 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: us next week, but a lot of people in the 45 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 1: opposition would say that they saw this coming. However, it 46 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: seems that the government did not. This story is all 47 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: about a security agreement Solomon Islands signed with China. So 48 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: we first found out about this a few weeks ago 49 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: when a draft of the agreement was leaked, and notably 50 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: it was the first time the Australian government had heard 51 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: about it. Minister for the Pacific Zed Seseljia confirmed that 52 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: the announcement was unexpected. Now that agreement has been signed, 53 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 1: but we we still don't know what exactly is in us. 54 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: The big question that all Australian politicians and security experts 55 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: are thinking about is whether the agreement will allow China 56 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 1: to establish a military base in Solomon Islands. Now we 57 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: have heard from the Prime Minister of Solomon Islands who 58 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: said that he has no intention whatsoever of allowing that. Instead, 59 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: he says the agreement is just about Solomon Islands acting 60 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: in its best interests and that it wants to quote 61 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: be a friend to all an enemy to none. He says, 62 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: there's no plans for Solomon Islands to pick sides, and 63 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: the existing security agreement that Solomon Islands has with Australia 64 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: is still going to stand. That agreement is protected even 65 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: though they have now entered into another agreement with China. 66 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: China says this exact point. So they say it's just 67 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: normal engagement between two sovereign countries, that there's nothing particularly 68 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: remarkable about this security agreement, and that the intention behind 69 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: the agreement is peaceful and not directed at any other country. 70 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 2: Okay, So why is that magnificant for Australia. Why, as 71 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 2: we mentioned at the top, is zed so Soldia heading 72 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 2: over there? Why is it coming up in leadership debates? 73 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 2: Talk me through that. 74 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: The most obvious reason here is undoubtedly geography. Solomon Islands 75 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: is a couple of thousand kilometers northeast of Australia, off 76 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: the north near Darwin, so a Chinese military presence is 77 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: a security risk for Australia. Especially in the event of 78 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: a military escalation between China and the West. You have 79 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: to remember the Pacific Islands are a very important strategic 80 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: place for Australia to have interests and for other Western allies. 81 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 1: The Pacific region lies geographically between China and Australia and 82 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: also between China and the US, China and Japan, so 83 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: all of those countries consider their relationships with these tiny 84 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: Pacific nations very important and they've been worried about China's 85 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: growing presence in the region. 86 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 2: Scott Morrison said this was quote no surprise, but you 87 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 2: mentioned that Australia didn't know about the agreement UNTI a 88 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 2: draft was leaked mere weeks ago. Did Australia see this coming? 89 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 2: And I guess as a follow up, could it have 90 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 2: done more in this space? 91 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: There's really no doubt that it was a surprise. We 92 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: had known China was growing its presence in the Pacific 93 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 1: as a kind of umbrella strategic long term goal, but 94 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: this escalation wasn't expected to happen now, and the Foreign 95 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: Minister and the Pacific Minister have both expressed that surprise. 96 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: But if we zoom out a little bit, the warning 97 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 1: signs have been there in Solomon Islands. The opposition leader 98 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: was warning Australian diplomats quite a while ago about this, 99 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: and last year there was a major turning point when 100 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: Solomon Islands diplomatically recognized China. So before that, Solomon Islands 101 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: was one of the few countries in the world that 102 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: recognized Taiwan, a country which claims independence but which China 103 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: views as part of China, and it didn't recognize China. 104 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: That switched and it has caused riots and unrest in 105 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: Solomon Islands, and Solomon Islands accepted offers from both Australian 106 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: and Chinese troops and police to help quell these riots. 107 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 1: So there were signs of China's growing involvement in the country. 108 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: To your question of whether more could have been done, 109 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: the key thing to remember, of course, is that Solomon 110 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: Islands is its own country. It has sovereignty, It can 111 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: do what it wants. Australia can't make us do anything 112 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: or demand anything from it, and the Australian government statements 113 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: have been super careful to recognize this in its language. 114 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: But there are people arguing, including those now in the 115 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: Labor Party, that we didn't do enough to maintain this 116 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: strong relationship with Solomon Islands and we let things get 117 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: to a point where they felt they needed China's help. 118 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: Here is Shadow Foreign Minister Pennywong talking about this. 119 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 3: This is the worst foreign policy blunder that we've seen 120 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 3: in the Pacific since World War Two. And despite mister 121 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 3: Morrison's tough talk on his watch, our region has become 122 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 3: less secure and the risks Australia faces have become greater. 123 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 2: Casting an eye domestically again, how is this coming up 124 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 2: in debates in the lead up to the election. 125 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: I feel like it's becoming kind of a symbol for 126 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: the strength that both Scott Morrison and Anthony Albanizi want 127 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: to convey to voters that they have with their foreign policy, 128 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: particularly in relation to China. It's kind of like the 129 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: media and the general public needed a focal point to 130 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: have this discussion about China's growing influence in the region 131 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: through But it's also involving topics like our foreign aid 132 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: obligations in the Pacific and topics that kind of capture 133 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: the foreign policy zeitgeist of right now. Obviously, the other 134 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: big topic in foreign policy is Ukraine, Russia and the 135 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: changing shape of Europe. But for us here in Australia, 136 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: it seems that China presents a more relevant geographical threat. 137 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: So that's why I think this topic has real cut 138 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: through in terms of the frequency of both leaders being 139 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: asked about it. 140 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 2: It's certainly a developing issue and one that both the 141 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 2: government and the opposition would be keeping a keen eye on. 142 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 2: We will be sure to update you on anything we 143 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 2: hear on this as the weeks go on, but in 144 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 2: the meantime, to catch up on the day's news, follow 145 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 2: us over on Instagram at the Daily Ozz to whear. 146 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 2: Over three hundred and fifty thousand ossies get their news 147 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 2: every day and we'd love to have you as part 148 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 2: of that community.