1 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: How I Welcome to the Happy Families Podcast. If you're 2 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: like most families around the country, your kids back at 3 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: school now. Today should be day three if they're in 4 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: the state schooling system and they didn't have student free 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: days and everything kicked off on Tuesday. And if you're 6 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: anything like most families, everything's falling apart, whether it's day 7 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: three or school starts next week or the week after, 8 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: or regardless of the circumstances of your family situation. Today 9 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,599 Speaker 1: we're talking about what to do when you think you've 10 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: got it together and then everything goes pair shaped, the 11 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: bottom falls out, the routine falls apart, the kids aren't playing, 12 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,599 Speaker 1: and everything's a mess. Today we are going to give 13 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 1: you two of the very best evidence based, science led strategies, 14 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: big ideas to get the routine back on track. It's 15 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: coming up next. Stay with us. Gooday, Welcome to the 16 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: Families podcast, where you get real parenting solutions every single day. 17 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,919 Speaker 1: This is Australia's most downloaded parenting podcasts. We're so grateful 18 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: that you're listening. We are justin and Kylie calls some 19 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: parents of six kids on the author of ten or 20 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: eleven books about making family happier and today it's something 21 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: that we've just I mean, we've reinvented this wheel. How 22 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: many times, Kylie, over the last twenty six years of 23 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: sending kids to school. 24 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 2: Just just when you think you've got it all worked out, 25 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:30,839 Speaker 2: there's a spanner every time. 26 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, because we don't want to overwhelm you, 27 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 1: because you're probably already feeling overwhelmed, we've just refined our 28 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: list of all the different things you can do to 29 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: get back on track to I actually wanted to just 30 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: make a really short podcast and say get back on track, 31 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 1: but that's usually not considered to be really helpful for 32 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: people who are saying, but I'm not on track. So 33 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: two things, two things that are going to make I 34 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: think all the difference. These ideas come from some of 35 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: the best researchers in the world. That's a whole lot 36 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: of evidence underpinning them, and I think they're going to 37 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: change the game. For the first idea, I'm going to 38 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: run with it, but I know that Kylie, We've done 39 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: some planning and you know where this is going. It's 40 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: about identifying your real bottleneck. There's a guy called Eli 41 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: Goldratt and he's put together this thing called the theory 42 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 1: of constraints. That's as Geeky's I'm going to get, I promise, 43 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: But what he basically says is every system has exactly 44 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 1: one bottleneck and that's going to limit your through port. Now, 45 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: once you fix that bottleneck, there'll be a new bottleneck appear, 46 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: and you can start to work on that one. But 47 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: just focus on the one major bottleneck that you've got 48 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: fixed that constraint, everything will start flowing. And unfortunately, what 49 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: typically happens is that most families tend to attack not 50 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: one bottleneck but ten small problems when they could and 51 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 1: should just fix the one big one. The upshot of 52 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: this really is that your routine is not falling apart 53 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: everywhere it feels like it. It feels like it, but 54 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: it will be falling apart at one critical point. And 55 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 1: if you can find that one critical point, fix that, 56 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: everything downstream will start to flow. 57 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 2: A couple of questions that might help you discover where 58 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 2: that bottleneck really is. So what time of day consistently 59 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 2: creates chaos for you? 60 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, so some families it'll be when everyone comes, getting 61 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: everybody out of bed. Well, yeah, mornings, it could be 62 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: getting everybody to bed, right, It could be getting everybody 63 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: out the door, but what times when everyone comes home 64 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: and it's just. 65 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 2: Like, ah, what time creates the chaos? 66 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 1: Okay, that's question number two. 67 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 2: What task when it doesn't happen, causes everything else to derail? 68 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 2: And the last one, what's the domino that when it falls, 69 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 2: everything else goes with it? 70 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: Yeah? So when you say that, I straight away think 71 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: of like we've been talking about this for eighteen years 72 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: in our family. I still don't think we need this podcast. 73 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: This is for us. It's dinner, right, Like if we 74 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: if we don't get dinner on time, that's the domino 75 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: it doesn't fall. 76 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 2: Like what's the magic hour in our house for dinner? 77 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: About four thirty pm? Five pm? That would be my dream, 78 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: but realistically five to five thirty yeah, And when do 79 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: we normally have it hunt seven thirty Yeah, if we're lucky. 80 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: So Kylie, say more about those most common bottlenecks. I 81 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: think it's worth spending just another second on this morning madness. 82 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 2: Kids can't find what they need, whether it's shoes, homeworks, 83 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 2: school bags, lunchboxes. That creates chaos. There's also after school collapse, 84 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 2: no clear transition from school to home. Bags are dump, 85 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 2: homeworks lost, everyone scattered, kids are hungry, they don't know 86 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 2: what to do with their time. What about bedtime battles? 87 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 2: Kids not asleep on time, They're exhausted in the mornings. 88 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 2: There's the cascade of failures as the day wears on, 89 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 2: and then there's the parent bottleneck when you're trying to 90 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 2: do everything for everyone right. 91 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 1: So you actually have the problem, which is so funny 92 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: because you blaming everyone else for being the problem. So 93 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: the fix is really simple. Identify ruthlessly, ruthlessly identify your 94 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,239 Speaker 1: one bottleneck. What's the one area that we need to improve? 95 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: Just track the week, have look what's happened over the 96 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: last few days. Where does the routine consistently break? Where 97 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: are you yelling at the kids? I know some people 98 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 1: are going to say everywhere, but there is going to 99 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: be one thing, right, You're going to be like, yeah, morning, I. 100 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 2: Know, I'm laughing, but it's actually because this has been my. 101 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: Life, We've gone through this, We've literally done this. But 102 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: for some families it's going to between seven and eight 103 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: in the morning, and for others is going to be 104 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 1: seven and eight at night, and for others is going 105 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 1: to be between three thirty and four thirty in the 106 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 1: afternoon or when when dad gets home, when Mum gets home, Like, 107 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: you'll work it out and then you want to engineer 108 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: that constraint out of existence, which is what we did 109 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: when we recognize that our biggest bottleneck was mornings, like 110 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: six point thirty three to seven thirty eight o'clock in 111 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: the morning was bedlam, and we came up with a 112 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 1: way to get that bottleneck gone. 113 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 2: With a concept we call your morning begins the night. 114 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: Before, which basically means that everything. 115 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 2: That you need to make sure that your morning runs 116 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 2: smoothly actually needs to be done the night before. Ye, 117 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 2: so you know exactly where your kid's uniform is, you 118 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 2: know where their shoes are, their school bag would be 119 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 2: ideally packed, and lunchboxes. Do as much of the packing 120 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 2: as you. 121 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 1: Can, where the library back before the sports uniform, like, 122 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: just just have it all done. 123 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 2: A locals swimming gear, whatever it is you need. 124 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: We went overboard, and we even got the kids to 125 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: choose their breakfast and lunch for tomorrow. Well, we had six. 126 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 2: Kids and trying to cater for all of their needs 127 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 2: in the morning was chaotic. 128 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's when we realized that mornings became magic when 129 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: we realized that your morning begins the night before. Fix 130 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: the one thing that's breaking everything else, that will be 131 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: the game changer for you. That's our big Idea number one. 132 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 1: If your morning's your days, your routine is off the rails. 133 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: We've got one more big idea right after this we're back. 134 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: It's the Happy Families Podcast. Big Idea number two for 135 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: getting your routine back on track. If everything's falling apart 136 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: and we're only just starting the year. There's a guy 137 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: called Barry Schwartz, and he wrote a book called The 138 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: Paradox of Choice. Another research called chip Heath, they've done 139 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: a whole lot of study on something called decision architecture. 140 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: So basically, every decision that you make costs you energy. 141 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: And what researchers have discovered I think this is fascinating, 142 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,559 Speaker 1: is that successful people are not making one hundred good 143 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: decisions every day. What they actually do is they eliminate 144 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: as many decisions as possible by creating routines or patterns 145 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: or defaults, and that way they only have to make 146 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: a handful of decisions, and they've got a whole lot 147 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: more cognitive capacity to orient themselves towards the decisions that 148 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: really matter. 149 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 2: Just before Christmas, we invested in getting a Skylight calendar. 150 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: Okay, so can I tell you this is not sponsorous, 151 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: it's not Idly talks about this on almost every podcast. Now, 152 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: if I. 153 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 2: Had had that eighteen years ago, my life would have 154 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 2: been revolutionized because. 155 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: You make the decision once and then you don't have 156 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: to make it again. 157 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 2: It's amazing. 158 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: If you're not familiar with that. The skylight is this. 159 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: I mean when you put it on standby, it's a 160 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: photo frame, a digital photo frame, so you can have 161 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: the photos going through it. But once you tap that screen, 162 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: it's got your calendar. It's got your schedule, your task liss, 163 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: your meals, you have recipes, it's got everything in it and. 164 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 2: You can literally just click the button and you can 165 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 2: see what you're going to eat for that whole week. 166 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: And it's changed our life. 167 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 2: Breakfast, lunch, dinner, and snacks. 168 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: And it's not sponsored, but we recommend it and we 169 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: love it. And I still need to get in touch 170 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: with them because we make a lot of noise about 171 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: how or you make a lot of noise about how 172 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: good this thing is. 173 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 2: Anyway, but this whole concept of eliminating so many choices, 174 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 2: so you're only making a handful. That's a really hard 175 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 2: one for me. 176 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 1: Well, every decision drains will power. Every decision creates friction, 177 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: it's tension, it's oh my goodness, like every night, Oh, 178 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: what are we going to have for dinner? 179 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 2: Oh? That's the worst question in the hall word world. 180 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: So let's do some quick live maths on this. How 181 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: many days are there in a typical school term. 182 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 2: Well it's ten weeks, so fifty days. 183 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: Okay, if yep, close enough, let's keep it round numbers. 184 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: What's for breakfast? 185 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 2: Well, that's a daily decision, so that's another fifty decisions. 186 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: Okay, So that's fifty decisions about breakfast. And how many 187 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: kids do we have? 188 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 2: Six? 189 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: Okay, so that's three hundred breakfast decisions, not including our 190 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: own every single term. What's for dinner the same okay, 191 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: So there's another three hundred decisions. What times bedtime? Where 192 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 1: do I put my bags? Where do I put my shoes? When? 193 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: What do I do about my homework? Like, if there's 194 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 1: no system, it's chaos. I would imagine that that is 195 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 1: literally thousands of unnecessary decisions in every single school term, 196 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 1: probably in every single school week. And so if you're 197 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: trying to make these decisions all the time, it's no 198 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: wonder that your routines falling apart. Right, That's how this 199 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: plays out. 200 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 2: So there's a couple of really easy fixes yep that 201 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 2: I hope will be helpful. 202 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: Well, it's really just one easy fix set up at 203 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: a fault okay one okay by a skylight. There's your 204 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 1: second one. 205 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 2: Do a breakfast rotation, yep. You just know that every 206 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 2: Monday you have this for breakfast. Every Tuesday going to 207 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 2: have this. 208 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you sit down with the kids and literally 209 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: you say, what are your five favorite breakfasts or what 210 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: are your three? Like you can have repeat breakfasts. You 211 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: can have the same kid. 212 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 2: Who just wants to eat weeps every day all to you. 213 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:12,719 Speaker 2: I have amazing. 214 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: Right, But literally you can either write out here are 215 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: your five choices. That does create choice tension overload in 216 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: the morning. Sometimes all you can say, here's the schedule, 217 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: which is what we've got on our planner. Now it 218 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: just says Monday's this, Tuesdays, this Wednesdays. 219 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 2: Nobody ever asks me anymore what we're eating. 220 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 1: And but nobody fights about it either. They just look 221 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: at and they're like, I guess that's what I'm having. 222 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: And if they don't feel like it, they're like, oh, well, 223 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: I guess there's some other choices here that I can 224 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 1: look at, right, Like it's it just simplifies it. 225 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 2: Pick a school that has a uniform and you don't 226 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 2: have to make a choice about what they. 227 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: Wear, which practically every school in Australia. Like, how lucky 228 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: are we there? Right? 229 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 2: Simple find some after school defaults. 230 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah, So you're coming into land and you know 231 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: where youre going to land, and what's going to happen, where. 232 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 2: Your school bag goes, what the ritual is and routine 233 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 2: around coming home unpacking. 234 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, like, as soon as you get home, you unpack 235 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 1: your lunch box and put it on the sink, you 236 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: put your school bag if you're lucky enough to have 237 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: a mud room or in the corner or the laundry 238 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:09,239 Speaker 1: wherever it goes. 239 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 2: And then maybe you have an afternoon snack and then 240 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 2: you finish your homework or whatever. 241 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know if that happens anymore with families, 242 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: but I still love it When I come home and 243 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: my mom would have afternoon tea ready to go. I 244 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: st also love it when our kids came home from 245 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 1: school and you had afternoon tea ready to go, and 246 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: I could walk into the kitchen and have my afternoon 247 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: tea as well. 248 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 2: Yes, it wasn't about the kids. 249 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: It wasn't. But this is great, right, Like you've got 250 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: the routine, you've got the default. No one's saying what 251 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: should I do now? And you don't have the tension, 252 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: you don't have the friction, you don't have the cognitive overload. 253 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: You're not having decision fatigue. It's all ready decided. And 254 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 1: you talked about the breakfast meal roster Kylie. We've done 255 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: We've talked about this on the podcast a number of times. 256 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 1: Monday Night, Monday's Mexican, Tuesday's Tacos, Wednesdays chicken and veg 257 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: or Thursdays Friday fish, yeah, fish, Friday weekend barbecue. Like 258 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 1: the result is that you do the plan once on 259 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: whatever planning day you have, maybe Sunday or Saturday, and 260 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: then you'd have to think about it. It's the same 261 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: with bedtime. You pick it and there's a default. So 262 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 1: decision making is cognitively expensive. Barack Obama famously wore the 263 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: same suit and tie every single day. Steve Jobs always 264 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: wore the same outfit, and it wasn't because they didn't 265 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: have the money for clothes. It's because they preserve their 266 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: mental energy for decisions that actually mattered, because what they 267 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 1: were wearing was going to be fine. Family routine falls 268 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: apart because you're burning willpower on low value, repetitive decisions 269 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: instead of creating a system that allows you just to 270 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 1: make the decision once and then keep it on repeat. 271 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 1: It's really nice. 272 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 2: I know you're trying to be really serious right now, 273 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 2: but I'm thinking about Barack and Steve and the fact 274 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 2: that they wore the same outfit every day, And I'm 275 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 2: thinking about that box of family photos that you've got, 276 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 2: and you're trying to kind of date them by the 277 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 2: things that they wear. Oh my goodness, I'd be so low. 278 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna all right. Hopefully that helps you to 279 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,959 Speaker 1: get the routine back on track. If things have gone hey, 280 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: we're hi, like my my word is right now, if 281 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: things have gone haywire for you already this year. The 282 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: Happy Families podcast is produced by Justin Ruland from Bridge Media. 283 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 1: Mim Hammonds provides research, admin and all of our other 284 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: support and for more info to make your family happy 285 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: and to get the support you need, check out happy 286 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: families dot com dot au