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Speaker 1: Welcome to the podcast. Everyone.

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Speaker 2: It is just me and the studio, still waiting for

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Speaker 2: Woods to come back after our final flourish in tribute

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Speaker 2: of Queen Elizabeth.

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Speaker 1: Was him down at the bar.

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Speaker 2: He thought he was down there doing something special with

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Speaker 2: the show, but turned out.

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Speaker 1: I got him to get everybody in the bar's.

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Speaker 2: Attention, as you're hear a little bit later on, and

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Speaker 2: he thought he was just going to say something really nice,

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Speaker 2: but you have to shout.

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Speaker 1: The bar gants for ten minutes. Is he back up?

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Speaker 1: Is he out there? George's I think he's just he's running.

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Speaker 1: He looks a bit flustered at the moment. How to go, mate,

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Speaker 1: You're on the way out? Are you done? You're back up?

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Speaker 1: And now you're out? He looks a bit rights.

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Speaker 3: How to go? I wrapped things up.

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Speaker 1: You said.

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Speaker 4: It was packed, sort of shook my credit card over

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Speaker 4: the bar there. Yeah, it was absolutely packed. Most people

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Speaker 4: thought it was a joke, and then I was going

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Speaker 4: to maybe ride that wave. But then I felt bad

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Speaker 4: because people specifically came up to me and they were like, so,

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Speaker 4: how does this work? And I was like, well, just

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Speaker 4: order your drink and then I had to put the

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Speaker 4: plastic over the bar there and watch my money dwindle

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Speaker 4: the line?

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Speaker 1: How does it work? How do you think you order.

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Speaker 4: A gen and you get a free Excuse me, but

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Speaker 4: I haven't even I haven't looked at how much it

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Speaker 4: cost me yet.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, I think I will.

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Speaker 5: How manything you?

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Speaker 2: But I did it for I didn't do it fortes,

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Speaker 2: I reckon and then you just smoke bombed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, got out of there. I did what I do best,

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Speaker 1: got out of there, quickly left.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, beautiful. It was actually it sounded

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Speaker 2: so good. It sounded amazing. That's good because you were

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Speaker 2: like you just hear you going, do you want if

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Speaker 2: I sit on the bar and.

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Speaker 1: You could hear the clamoring.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 1: I was packed. Was it was so packed.

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Speaker 4: And then Bartend looking at and being like, nah, you

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Speaker 4: can't do that, And then I was like, well, well

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Speaker 4: I'm doing it.

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Speaker 1: And then a bit where you're like, well I've got.

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Speaker 4: Them, and then so I said, can I get your

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Speaker 4: attention one bloke case my swearing goes no fuck off,

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Speaker 4: fair enough, good start, good start, and then I was

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Speaker 4: like no, no, no, just for two seconds you want to

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Speaker 4: hear me? And then and then I pause because they

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Speaker 4: can't hear anything. In the same blow goes, did you

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Speaker 4: get a G and D that Buffy?

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Speaker 1: Still?

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Speaker 4: If I said beer, I would have been killed. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it was like, it's not a G and T. Bar No,

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Speaker 2: Oh, well, when when Prince Charles died, we'll do we'll

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Speaker 2: do beers.

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Speaker 1: No, I think you're going down, Well, flip it. We'll

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Speaker 1: flip it. We're going to get out of you guys.

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Speaker 1: Enjoy the show, see you on Monday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a hell of a show all all obviously

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Speaker 2: in honor of Queen Elizabeth the iond.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was brilliant, really truly brilliant.

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Speaker 6: Enjoy This is the Will and Woody podcast Sad day

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Speaker 6: in a lot of ways.

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Speaker 2: Queen Elizabeth, I'm sure many of you will be across

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Speaker 2: it died this morning in Australia. Obviously, it was last

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Speaker 2: night over in the UK. Woods And one of the

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Speaker 2: Network ten, angela Bishop, who joints us on the phone

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Speaker 2: right now outside Buckingham Palace. Hello, Besh Rising, appreciate you

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Speaker 2: coming on with us. You probably haven't had a coffee yet,

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Speaker 2: so thank you for.

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Speaker 7: I haven't been to bed the bed. I've been outside

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Speaker 7: bucking In Palace along with a lot of people.

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Speaker 1: On How's what were you doing? What have you been

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Speaker 7: Crossing to our various television programs in the studio ten

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Speaker 7: and then we've had rolling news coverage. But also I

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Speaker 7: so many of them were just sitting at home alone

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Speaker 7: people were from other countries and found themselves in London

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Speaker 7: and thought, you know, this is one of the most

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Speaker 7: significant days in history. I want to experience it. I

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Speaker 7: and incredible.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and Bish, you have a personal connection as well

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Speaker 4: to the Queen you met her.

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Speaker 7: I did. Look, so many people. You made sixteen visits

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Speaker 7: so there are probably thousands of Australian sys matter and

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Speaker 7: and that's the wow, Angela Bishop and I was just

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Speaker 7: was incredible. There is something that I'll never forget about

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Speaker 7: that moment and it stands out. You know, what I

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Speaker 2: And can you tell us what it was like last

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Speaker 2: you're actually I mean, I hate to continue to name

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Speaker 2: been on the horizon. You she was ninety six years old,

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Speaker 2: so but you're over there doing your own thing and

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Speaker 2: then this happened. What's the how is the country?

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Speaker 1: Responded?

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Speaker 2: Haws London responded, what's what's the feel in and amongst

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Speaker 7: Yeah, look it's shocked. And you said, you'motely say she

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Speaker 7: There's that smile. She's doing her duty, which she promised

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Speaker 7: I don't want to hear the news, but we're going

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Speaker 4: Hey, speaking of sadness, Fish reports that Harry didn't make it,

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Speaker 1: What's your take on that situation.

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Speaker 7: Well, yeah, that's that's reports. What we're what we're hearing,

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Speaker 7: in fact, is that Prince Charles and the Princess Royal,

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Speaker 7: I think what's important is that they were all there together,

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Speaker 7: and you would you just wish, don't you don't we

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Speaker 7: The momentousness of the occasion, this inc the end of

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Speaker 7: Elizabethan era. I think of Elizabethan era momenttus occasion might

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Speaker 7: being mended. I don't know that you know, That's what

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Speaker 7: the Queen would want, wouldn't she.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, she was a great peace great peace keeper.

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Speaker 2: And I'm sure you've heard a billion stories today, and

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Speaker 2: I'm sure there's been so much flying around that you've

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Speaker 2: and tidbits that you've picked up, what to you is

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Speaker 2: the story that best represents her majesty.

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Speaker 7: The number of people in the crowd who made notice

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Speaker 7: the fact that she was a woman who had two

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Speaker 7: So she was a working mum with a lot of help.

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Speaker 7: Let's not pretend otherwise, But there was an incredible female

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Speaker 7: While the rest of the world often went to hell

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Speaker 7: and that is really hard to wrap your head around.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she was a talisman. Really, it all with a

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Speaker 4: Just as you said on Tuesday, she had that trademark

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Speaker 2: And thank you so much for joining You're sure, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you're a star. It's so great to hear from you.

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Speaker 2: I'll let you join in the chorus. And as you said,

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Speaker 2: you're sort of part of history there out in the

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Speaker 2: who just want to share in their suffering together on

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Speaker 2: such a momentous, such a sad day, commemorating one of

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us. And you're also

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Speaker 1: one of the great people to ever walk the earth.

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Speaker 1: We bluddy love you. Wow Jesus John the farm on

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Speaker 2: On this very sad momentous day, really remembering the greatest

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Speaker 2: and we're remembering a wonderful woman. And I was going

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Speaker 2: to say a wonderful leader, a wonderful monarch, but let's

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Speaker 2: grace on the public stage. But somebody who knew her

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Speaker 1: Welcome, Paul, Hi, William Woody.

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Speaker 5: It's a very sad time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's let's let's talk.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I.

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Speaker 1: If you think back on your time with.

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Speaker 8: When I was eighteen, I went to Bucky and Palace

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Speaker 8: She said, well, I have a look around the palace

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Speaker 4: I think one of the reasons that people worship her

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Speaker 8: She got up every morning at the same time, halpast eight,

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Speaker 8: I mean, she did drink an awful lot in my day,

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Speaker 1: Toll on her.

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Speaker 8: I think the death of Princess Diana, without doubt, I

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Speaker 8: The Queen was very close to Princess Diana and she

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Speaker 4: Paul, is there anything to look into the facts we're

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Speaker 8: I think Harry will be gutted because he had the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, all right, well look we've got more with

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, Paul.

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Speaker 5: It's good to be back with you.

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Speaker 8: But remembering the Queen is very upsetting for me because

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Speaker 8: standing beside every eleven years was a long time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like you guys had a really special relationship.

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Speaker 2: She seemed like she had a wonderful sense of humor,

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Speaker 2: She was never shy of, you know, showing what she

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Speaker 1: Do you remember laughing with her about things?

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Speaker 8: She was a very calming influence, especially with Prince Philip around.

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Speaker 5: Would say to him, oh, darling, do you have to

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Speaker 8: He would come through mumbling and bumbling and say and

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Speaker 5: And they're so they're so collectible.

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Speaker 8: The Queen was very good at putting out fires, and

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Speaker 8: she lacked a smooth passage, and she's tried to smooth

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Speaker 8: the passage for King Charles and Queen Camella. I'm not

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Speaker 4: So, Paul, sorry, are you genuinely concerned that Charles will

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Speaker 8: I just feel that there's something not quite right in

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Speaker 8: with crowns on their heads after what happened with Dana, Right.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so let's if we can talk about that a

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Speaker 2: bit more. What's your experience with Charles as a person?

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Speaker 8: Me, I witnessed someone who is very selfish and concerned

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Speaker 8: that the right quality for a king. He's very petulant.

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Speaker 8: I mean, this is a man who has his shoelaces

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Speaker 2: Did you ever iron the shoelaces or put the toothpaste

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Speaker 5: No? I didn't do that because he had two valets

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Speaker 8: Wow, Prince Charles has a staff probably as big as

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 4: I heard a rumor, Paul that he travels with his

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Speaker 1: Is that true?

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Speaker 8: Yes, he travels with paintings, with carpets, with pieces of furniture,

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Speaker 4: Him, Paul, Is there is there any other story like

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Speaker 5: So many things.

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Speaker 8: When the Duke of Windsor died, for instance, I was

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Speaker 8: She says, yes, Queen Elizabeth won't go down to the

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Speaker 8: I said, well, I think you should know the grave

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Paul, what do you think? What do you think her

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 5: Now that she's gone. I think her legacy will be

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Speaker 5: obviously the longest rain ever.

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Speaker 8: And Elizabeth the good because of all things, she was kind, good, compassionate,

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Speaker 5: She was just a very kind woman.

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Speaker 2: It's a beautiful painting that you've that you've put together

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Speaker 1: So it's been a privilege to learn a little bit more.

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Speaker 5: We'll never see the likes of her again, and that's

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much for joining us. I really

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Speaker 1: This is the Will and Woody Podcast. Good afternoon, everyone,

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Speaker 1: Will and Moddy. Very sad, very momentous day.

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Speaker 2: That is the death of Queen Elizabeth the Second, the greatest,

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Speaker 1: That's that's one hundred percent for sure.

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Speaker 2: Paul Butler Paul Burrow, I should say the butler to

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Speaker 2: But this is obviously something where we're a colony here

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Speaker 4: Absolutely it seemed that no one really disliked her, no

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Speaker 1: She brought people together, yes she did.

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Speaker 2: And so just to reflect on that a little bit,

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Speaker 2: We'll turn you on in a second hand talking about yourselves.

443
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Speaker 2: Try you're still off, you want to come and use mine?

444
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Speaker 2: Come over here, Elch, she's coming around. She's coming around.

445
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Speaker 2: Two maybe Mike, three, George, how do you guys go

446
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:40,159
Speaker 2: and talk over there?

447
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Speaker 4: You come over here else, I'll take that microphone.

448
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Speaker 1: Hello, testing elch, How are you going?

449
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Speaker 4: Boys?

450
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Speaker 1: How are you going? That's good?

451
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:51,200
Speaker 4: Have all the days?

452
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Speaker 2: Well?

453
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Speaker 1: I know it's your big moment in the sun. We

454
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Speaker 1: didn't have your mind. It wasn't a stitch up. I

455
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Speaker 1: promise you a real life farm in the Yeah. No, no,

456
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Speaker 1: we just we always make sure it's tough for you guys.

457
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Speaker 1: That's the idea. Let's talk a little bit about the.

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Speaker 6: Queen yeah, it's it's it's such a sad day today.

459
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Speaker 4: I woke up to that.

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Speaker 6: My voice has gone already. Boys, I've gone and sort

461
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Speaker 6: of walk up to the news. And I wasn't with

462
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Speaker 6: my wife this morning, and she actually text me and said,

463
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Speaker 6: please don't look at the news.

464
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Speaker 5: Call me.

465
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 6: Call me as soon as you wake up, bloody, what's

466
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Speaker 6: this about. I found her and she told me and

467
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Speaker 6: I went straight away.

468
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Speaker 9: I was gone.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So it just seems like a simple question. But why

471
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Speaker 1: so so much emotion?

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Speaker 4: Because the one thing from us, and obviously we can

473
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Speaker 4: understand why people are emotional, but you know, she's ninety

474
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 4: six years old, this was going to happen. It probably

475
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Speaker 4: doesn't come across as a huge shock. Why that instant emotion.

476
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Speaker 5: It's a good question.

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Speaker 6: I've sort of never been shy about saying how much

478
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Speaker 6: I love the Royal family. I do, and I love

479
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Speaker 6: the Queen.

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Speaker 5: For me.

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Speaker 6: Obviously, you said earlier, she's been alive for every day

482
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Speaker 6: that I was on Earth. I was saying to the

483
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 6: team earlier. She did a Christmas speech, right, So imagine

484
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Speaker 6: you're with your family every Christmas day going up, and

485
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Speaker 6: you sat and watched this queen speech so it's technically

486
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Speaker 6: like she was a member of the family that came

487
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Speaker 6: to Christmas every year, like you just sat down and

488
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Speaker 6: devoted ten minutes to her. She was just always there

489
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Speaker 6: on big occasions. She was just always the first person

490
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Speaker 6: I need to say, or she just offered a moment

491
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Speaker 6: of condolence, and she'd be talking. Now, she'd be the

492
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Speaker 6: one that would be speaking. And then there was so

493
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Speaker 6: much to celebrate about her. We had Angel earlier saying

494
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Speaker 6: that she was this woman and that she was just

495
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Speaker 6: this brilliant woman. And because she went on for so long,

496
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Speaker 6: there was so much to celebrate. Twenty five years, fifty years,

497
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Speaker 6: sixty seventy years, and she was just this magnetic force

498
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Speaker 6: that brought everyone together.

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Speaker 2: Even when it was chaos.

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Speaker 6: She was just just I can't really put it into words,

501
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Speaker 6: no really.

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Speaker 2: But I think I think we all got that, you know,

503
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Speaker 2: from the outside. As you said, when it was chaos,

504
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 2: she was she was a consonant. She was sort of

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Speaker 2: the north staff for everyone, even when all the I remember,

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Speaker 2: you know, famously obviously when Donald Trump went over to

507
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Speaker 2: go and visit her, and she wasn't she didn't engage

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Speaker 2: in the riff raff.

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Speaker 1: You know, she was sort of above it. She was

510
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Speaker 1: always graceful, and she always.

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Speaker 2: Spoke well, and there might be little subtle things that

512
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Speaker 2: she would do to indicate that she wasn't happy, but

513
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Speaker 2: she would never make a fuss, she'd never make a scene.

514
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Speaker 2: It was always this you know, calm, calming presence, which

515
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Speaker 2: is which is what I was talking about before in

516
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Speaker 2: terms of the British people, in terms of and Bishop

517
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Speaker 2: said before out the front of Buckingham Palace, there were

518
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Speaker 2: people there just sort of wanting to share in their grief,

519
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Speaker 2: and I imagine there's a deep sense of unrest that

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00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 2: comes with that, you know.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and if I was back calm now, I would

522
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Speaker 6: be you'd be there. You just you just want to

523
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Speaker 6: be amongst it. Just she just brought everyone together. And

524
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Speaker 6: I actually just I'm not one much for social media,

525
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 6: but every now and then I jump on there and

526
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 6: I just wrote a couple of lines this morning, and

527
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Speaker 6: I feel like this sort of exemplfies how I feel

528
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 6: and what she sort of meant to pitch public. So

529
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 6: on our fridge at home, my wife and I have

530
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Speaker 6: a bunch of photos and a college of memories, and

531
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Speaker 6: bang in the middle is a picture of us. It's

532
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Speaker 6: a selfie from twenty twelve. We've got these big union

533
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Speaker 6: jack hats on jack sonnies and it was from the

534
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Speaker 6: Queen's sixtieth jubilee back in twenty twelve, and so I

535
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 6: just sort of put this down this morning. And in

536
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 6: the week leading up to that jubilee, I was desperate

537
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Speaker 6: to attend her celebrations in person, a bloody love day,

538
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Speaker 6: and I just wanted one glimpse of the Queen up

539
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Speaker 6: close on a special day. We had no money, we

540
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Speaker 6: couldn't afford accommodation, so we caught the midnight bust down

541
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Speaker 6: to London the night before costas have bound each rocked

542
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Speaker 6: up in London and at six am went for a

543
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Speaker 6: fry up and then headed to the Palace. As the

544
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,360
Speaker 6: cars came down the mall, I could see which one

545
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 6: Betty was in and I lost it. I climbed on

546
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Speaker 6: top of a ballard while Meg held my feet and

547
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 6: I waved. When the cars had passed and the policeman

548
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 6: had blown his whistle at me to get down, I

549
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 6: jumped down and Meg said, did you see her? I

550
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 6: saw her, I said Meg. And I then spent the

551
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 6: day drinking free Champagne, laughing and dancing our way through London.

552
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 6: We got the Pound buss back to Manchester at midnight

553
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 6: and slept the entire journey, exhausted but elated that day.

554
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Speaker 6: That memory is so special to me, and I have

555
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 6: a reminder every time I go to my fridge, thank

556
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 6: you for everything you brought so many people's lives, and

557
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 6: thank you for the special memories you helped creating mine.

558
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 6: I'll never forget you and I and I don't even

559
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 6: know the woman, but you just you wanted to be

560
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 6: there and you wanted to celebrate in everything that she did.

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Speaker 6: So thanks Betty, and we'll see you against him.

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Speaker 1: Well said, Oh wow, isn't it amazing?

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Speaker 2: There's not too many people that you never meet that

564
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Speaker 2: have that that don't make music or do you know,

565
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 2: do poetry or she was just she was it, wasn't she?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

567
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Speaker 5: She was it?

568
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Speaker 6: She's it. And Jesus's you know of all the friends

569
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Speaker 6: and all the family members that I've got, members that

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Speaker 6: I've got my bye, Yeah, she's on my fridge at home.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure. I'm sure we all have. We'd all have exactly.

572
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Speaker 2: We all have cousins who could die with who we

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Speaker 2: would have less of an emotional reaction to the fridge.

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Speaker 1: That's a whack to your cousins, though, Will Your cousins

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Speaker 1: are listening.

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Speaker 2: Right up next, John's jumped the distant cousins, second and

577
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Speaker 2: third and fourth cousins.

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Speaker 1: Who are you apart from you, Sarah, I'm a big

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Speaker 1: funn of not going to the wedding cousin Sween Elizabeth.

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Speaker 2: Second, remembering her here on Willan Woddy Coming up next, Will.

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Speaker 10: And Woody the Will and Woody Podcast.

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Speaker 2: We are remembering Queen Elizabeth the IID and right now

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Speaker 2: we are joined by the former Royal Gardener of Buckingham Palace,

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Speaker 2: Ben Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 10: Good morning, good morning Will, Good morning Wooded, and how

586
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 10: we are doing really really well.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us. Mate.

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Speaker 2: I'd love to know, is there to a moment that

589
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 2: sticks out for you from your from your time when

590
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 2: Queen Elizabeth was raining?

591
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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 10: Well, I think, I mean the question is where which

593
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Speaker 10: way do you start?

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Speaker 9: Really?

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Speaker 10: She was an amazing person. I mean, my favorite story

596
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 10: is is one from when she was young. She wanted

597
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Speaker 10: to go drawing a street party. She wasn't allowed and

598
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 10: her parents said no, and so so she decided to

599
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Speaker 10: sneak out into the garden and climb over the fence

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Speaker 10: and join the party anyways, and nobody really noticed. And

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Speaker 10: I think, I wouldn't you do that if you were

602
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Speaker 10: trapped and so decided to such a big building your

603
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Speaker 10: parents have said.

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Speaker 3: No, you can't.

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Speaker 10: You're just like, oh, well, I'm going to go do

606
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 10: it anyway. So no, that's that's probably one that sticks

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Speaker 10: out in the memory.

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Speaker 1: That's a crazy story. I think I remember that.

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Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, she she a couple of years ago, but yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's brilliant. I also remember the story about the time

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Speaker 2: that she because she used to drive. She used to

612
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Speaker 2: be a driver during the war. She used to try

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Speaker 2: ambulances and such. And I remember she had a There

614
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Speaker 2: was a there was a particular princes from the Middle

615
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Speaker 2: East that came over, a lord from the Middle East

616
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Speaker 2: that came over, and she didn't like his policy towards women, so.

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Speaker 1: She took him on.

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Speaker 2: She took him on a jeep drive and quite deliberately

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Speaker 2: through like the most treacherous potholy drive. So this boat

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Speaker 2: got out of the car absolutely rattled.

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Speaker 10: Really, you got to appreciate the fact that she kind of,

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Speaker 10: you know, said right, actually, yes, I'm the queen, but

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Speaker 10: actually I'm going to I'm going to put my foot down,

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Speaker 10: I'm going to do things my ways. And there was

625
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Speaker 10: always that rebellious side.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, bloody, hey Benny. This might sound like a random question,

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Speaker 4: but obviously when you're working on the gardens of Buckingham Palace,

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Speaker 4: I assume you're being fed by the Royal kitchen there

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Speaker 4: or the royal chefs. What was lunch break like when

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Speaker 4: you're doing the garden and.

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Speaker 10: Bucking and power us Joe, I always laughed because when

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Speaker 10: I first went there, I was training, but I came

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Speaker 10: from from a kind of different backgrounds and I rocked up.

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Speaker 10: And after the first couple of weeks we've been given

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Speaker 10: things like a confee of duck in an orange jew

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Speaker 10: for your lunch and crumble and the boys used to complain,

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Speaker 10: it's disgusting. There's only there's any cream with the crumbball,

638
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 10: and there's no there's no ice cream with the crumball.

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00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 10: So it was it was awesome, and you know, everyone

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00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 10: got really good food. It was always three course lunches,

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Speaker 10: three course dinners, and some people had beer on the

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Speaker 10: side as well, but only if you're slightly higher up.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 2: We sounds delish now, Ben, I've also got another question here.

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Speaker 2: Apparently she grew banana trees in the palace.

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Speaker 8: Is is that right?

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Speaker 10: I mean, why not? I think yeah, there was, there's

648
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Speaker 10: there's loads of gun plants. If you're the queen, you

649
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Speaker 10: can grow whatever you want. I think it's been been

650
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Speaker 10: mentioned in the past of the way we got into

651
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Speaker 10: flowers to take a bit of a urination on them,

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Speaker 10: and and they grow like crazy when you do.

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Speaker 3: And then flowers.

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Speaker 10: So not only were they all there, but they also

655
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Speaker 10: flowered and cropped as well. Didn't eat it, didn't have

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Speaker 10: the courage, but they cropped.

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Speaker 1: So so han she got she she asked you to

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Speaker 1: urineate on her banana trees for her.

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Speaker 10: I think I think everyone kind of knew it was

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Speaker 10: the dune thing.

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Speaker 5: It was.

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Speaker 10: It was not really talked about, but everyone kind of

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Speaker 10: nodded their heads and knew that is the way to

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Speaker 10: get right forward.

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Speaker 5: It's extraordinary.

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Speaker 4: But if she if she went for a walk through

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Speaker 4: her gardens, which obviously she would do when she's walking

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Speaker 4: the corgies and whatnot, was that just the most nervous

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Speaker 4: thing for you in your life to watch her walking

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Speaker 4: through the gardens, because you know, if she if she

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Speaker 4: hits an air.

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Speaker 1: And pothole or something there and breaks her ankle, I

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Speaker 1: mean that's on you.

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Speaker 10: If there's a bit of a bump and she bashes

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Speaker 10: her head or or hell breaks out.

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Speaker 9: No, I think you know what.

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Speaker 10: Actually they are normal people, and I do remember a

678
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Speaker 10: couple of times just bumping into members the rule and

679
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 10: having absolutely no idea who they were. Could you see

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Speaker 10: them on TV in their suits and looking formal, But

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Speaker 10: when they get home, which is basically the palace is

682
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Speaker 10: they kind of you go out in there jim jams

683
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Speaker 10: and the pajamas and the walk around, and they just go.

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Speaker 10: I had no idea, and a couple of times I

685
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Speaker 10: did get myself into a bit of trouble with people going,

686
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Speaker 10: actually you need to be respectful because that was somewhere important.

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Speaker 2: You're in the middle of pissing on a banana tree. Ben,

688
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Speaker 2: thanks so much for joining us. It's really nice to

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Speaker 2: get some texture on the person and the house that

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Speaker 2: was there, of people living, people in their ben there

691
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Speaker 2: the former Royal gardener or Buckingham pouse.

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Speaker 1: It's well and woody.

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Speaker 2: We're remembering her from a personal level as well. Many listeners,

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Speaker 2: both people from the UK, and also she did visit

695
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Speaker 2: Australia so many times. She was here so many times

696
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Speaker 2: would obviously touch the lives of lots of people. So

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00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 2: there's so many of you guys that have got stories

698
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Speaker 2: about her in the way that she interacted with you.

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Speaker 2: And we're currently joined by a man by the name

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Speaker 2: of Brian Devreux, who hosted The Queen Backer when she

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Speaker 2: was here in two thousand.

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Speaker 1: He was the principal of Vas Primary School. Brian, thanks

703
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Speaker 1: much for.

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Speaker 2: Joining us on the show this afternoon pleasure. Brian, how

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Speaker 2: did it come about that the Queen visited your school

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Speaker 2: in particular?

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Speaker 9: Well, it wasn't a particularly auspicious start, I have to say,

708
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 9: because I've only been appointed principle for a few weeks

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Speaker 9: and I had a phone call from my immediate boss,

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Speaker 9: the superintendent, and she said, would you be prepared to

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Speaker 9: host a special guest in about a month's time? And

712
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Speaker 9: I said, oh, yes, that sounds fine. Who did you

713
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 9: have in mind? And she said Liz Windsor and I said,

714
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Speaker 9: I don't think I know this education and a hearing

715
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 9: there was a very pregnant silence for a while, and

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Speaker 9: she said so, Brian, does the word queen ring any

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Speaker 9: bells with you at all? I said, the Queen Queen,

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Speaker 9: her majesty, and she said yes indeed, and I said,

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Speaker 9: oh my god, this is going to be the day

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Speaker 9: of my life. And it actually was fantastic, extraordinary and

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Speaker 9: well sorry, well it had to be planned meticulously, and

722
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Speaker 9: I was sworn to secrecy, so we had to do

723
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Speaker 9: a spreadsheet minute by a minute where we were going

724
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Speaker 9: to go, where she was, who was going to be

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Speaker 9: with it, all those sorts of things. And we had

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Speaker 9: to prepare the kids, because you can't just hope that

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Speaker 9: they'll do the right thing on the day. Of course,

728
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Speaker 9: I wasn't allowed to say what was going on. I've

729
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 9: had to pretend we were practicing for Anzac Day. Anyway,

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Speaker 9: I thought everything was fine. I had the kids all

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Speaker 9: tuned up, and I took her into the pre primary

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Speaker 9: classroom that's five year olds, and the little boy at

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Speaker 9: the front. She walked in the door, and the little

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Speaker 9: boy at the front said, so, who's manner is this?

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Speaker 9: All the preperation? It's small over already.

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Speaker 1: How did he take that? How did you take that?

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Speaker 10: Brand?

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Speaker 4: Because every story you hear it feels like she would

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Speaker 4: have loved that she did.

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Speaker 9: She just smiled and pat him on the head and

741
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 9: tatting from the Daily Telegraph in London saying, it's pretty

742
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 9: clear that education in Australia is sadly lacking. I had

743
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Speaker 9: to point out that this little boy was five.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, what a story, Brian, Thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for joining us. What a wonderful time.

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Speaker 2: Obviously a sad day for everyone, but you know, momentous

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00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 2: in so many ways that you can reflect on it

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Speaker 2: knowing that you'd actually met her. Apart from obviously the

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Speaker 2: great humor and that she brought, what's the lasting memory

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Speaker 2: that you have of your time.

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Speaker 1: With her, which was in Australia.

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Speaker 9: I just think her warmth and her kind of connection

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Speaker 9: with people. It didn't matter who it was, you know,

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00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 9: she just said hello to everybody, a smile on her face.

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Speaker 9: And I think that the other thing that impressed me

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Speaker 9: was her sense of humor. Yeah, she has to be

757
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,399
Speaker 9: quite formal, but at the end of the day, she's

758
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 9: got a lovely sense of humor.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, and remembering Queen Elizabeth IID on this very momentous,

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Speaker 2: very sad day, It's been a wonderful show. This afternoon

762
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Speaker 2: and joined by a host of different guest texturing the

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Speaker 2: person that was Queen Elizabeth, second behind the monarch, behind

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Speaker 2: the title, and that I think that's what most of

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Speaker 2: us really loved her for, was the fact that she

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Speaker 2: was more than just this figure who was a leader.

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Speaker 2: She was a person underneath all that, and that's what

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Speaker 2: made us so special in so many ways was her humanity.

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Speaker 2: And one of the people we spoke to was Paul Burrell,

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Speaker 2: who was at one of the butlers of the Queen

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Speaker 2: throughout her rain.

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Speaker 1: He had some wonderful stories.

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Speaker 2: Get it on the podcast with them? Would he read

774
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 2: you get your podcasts? But he said something before which

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00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,280
Speaker 2: reminded me of something we'd heard a lot about the Queen.

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Speaker 2: But it was nice to have or funny for him

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Speaker 2: to confirm it for us.

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Speaker 1: Have a listen.

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Speaker 8: She did drink an awful lot in my day, I

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Speaker 8: mean enough to put you under the table.

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Speaker 1: Which gave me a bit of an idea.

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Speaker 2: So what I've done is I've kicked Boody out of

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Speaker 2: the studio and he currently he currently can't hear me,

784
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Speaker 2: which is good because I've said to Woods, look, Woods,

785
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Speaker 2: i want to do one final bit of commemorative action

786
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 2: for the Queen, one last thing to sort of raise

787
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 2: a glass to her, so to speak. So I send

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Speaker 2: him out of the studio to a pub nearby called

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Speaker 2: the London Tavern, and I've told him that we're going

790
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 2: to have one final flourish for the show, which will be, like,

791
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 2: you know, a beautiful momentous thing to remember the Queen with.

792
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 2: I haven't told him what that is just yet. I

793
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 2: will tell all of you guys before he can listen

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Speaker 2: to me, though. So what I'm going to do, He's

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Speaker 2: going to go. He's down at the London Tavern now,

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00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 2: he's waiting outside for instruction. I'm going to send him

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00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 2: in and then when he gets in there, I'm going

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00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 2: to get him to get the whole bar's attention on

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Speaker 2: the air, and then I'm gonna say, yell out to everyone,

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Speaker 2: You're going to shout the bar gin and Tonics in

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00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 2: honor of the Queen for the next ten minutes. Anyone

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00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 2: that knows what he will know who's a massive tight ass,

803
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Speaker 2: and that's going to kill him. So that'll be really fun.

804
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:46,800
Speaker 2: And the Queen loved to J and T, so what

805
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 2: better way to do it?

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00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: All Right? So if we can bring Woods on live now.

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Speaker 2: Hello Woods mate, how I am? I'm pretty excited about this,

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00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,399
Speaker 2: you know. It's been a beautiful show commemorating the Queen.

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00:38:58,480 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 2: One final flourish.

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00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 3: Eh yeah, what am I doing?

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you that in two seconds we might just

812
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 1: go to a song. Are you so you're at the

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Speaker 1: London Tavern?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm outside the London teven Jobby to go in

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Speaker 4: the London teven?

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Speaker 1: Yes? Absolutely? But first of all, how packed is it?

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Speaker 10: Chockers?

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Speaker 3: There's an anfl final one tonight. It couldn't be more fault.

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Speaker 2: All right, perfect, I've got a great idea remembering the

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Speaker 2: Queen right up next, I'll need you to go in

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Speaker 2: there and I'll need you to get everyone's attention, okay,

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Speaker 2: all right, and I'll speak to you on the other

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Speaker 2: side of the song with further instruction. I'm remembering Queen

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Speaker 2: Elizabeth for scond today here on William were he all

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Speaker 2: across the country, all across the world. What a leader,

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Speaker 2: what a monarch, what a woman. It's been a hell

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Speaker 2: of a show. Thanks so much for listening. Get it

828
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Speaker 2: on the podcast Willim Wood wherever you get podcasts for

829
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 2: some truly brilliant chats with some people that knew her intimately.

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Speaker 2: But right now I want to focus on something which

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Speaker 2: we were reminded of by her butler, Paul Burrell, who

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00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 2: joined us a little bit earlier, which was her penchant

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Speaker 2: for a drink.

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Speaker 8: She did drink an awful lot in my day. I

835
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Speaker 8: mean enough to put you under the table, really.

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Speaker 2: But family she had, she just had a real pension

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Speaker 2: for a G and T just frothed it. So what

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Speaker 2: we're gonna do is, as I've told Woods to duck

839
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Speaker 2: out of the studio, and the idea here is that

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Speaker 2: I want to shout the bar around, a whole round,

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Speaker 2: the whole bar, a round of G and t's to

842
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Speaker 2: remember Queen Lizzie. So that's what we're going to do

843
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 2: right now. Wood he has no idea that this is.

844
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Speaker 1: What's going on.

845
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Speaker 2: And as I said before, anyone that's listened just listening

846
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 2: to the show, you need to know probably is a

847
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 2: nice bit of context that he is possibly the planet's

848
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Speaker 2: greatest tide us. So he's down at a pub called

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Speaker 2: the London Tavern, which of you know, he's been like

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Speaker 2: a puppy dog.

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Speaker 1: You tell him anything, I've told him.

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Speaker 2: London, the queen, you know, get down, then we're gonna

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00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 2: do something special. So he's I'm going to tell him

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00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 2: after he gets the whole bar's attention. So his hands

855
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 2: are absolutely tired, so I'm going to cross to him.

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00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 1: Now, good a woods down now yeah, nearly, very nearly,

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Speaker 1: all right.

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Speaker 3: So the massive ts you to appreciate how teasing outside

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Speaker 3: of bar.

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Speaker 8: I know.

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00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 2: You can, well you can, well, yeah you can, you can.

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00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 2: But remember this is all about Queen Elizabeth the second.

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Speaker 1: So before you have what am I doing? Well, what

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Speaker 1: I'm doing, I think you're just going to get in

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Speaker 1: there and get everybody's attention.

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Speaker 2: And then when you've got their attention, then I'll tell

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Speaker 2: you exactly what we're going to do.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be beautiful.

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Speaker 9: No, just tell me what I'm doing.

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Speaker 1: It'll be it'll beautiful. It'll just just trust me. Just

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Speaker 1: just trust me. It'll be beautiful. I just I need you.

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Speaker 3: It's a packed bar. They don't want to listen to me.

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Speaker 10: Just get in there.

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Speaker 1: You'll have five seconds.

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Speaker 2: Just get in there, just go and then I've got

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Speaker 2: I've actually got something really beautiful that we're going to do.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I'll check you on speaking all right, thank you?

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Speaker 3: All right, all right, hang on, good look, I'm walking

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Speaker 3: in I'm walking.

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Speaker 1: How are you going to get their attention?

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Speaker 3: Joy? What are you all right?

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00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: Get on the bar?

883
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 3: I got well one of us sit on the bar

884
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 3: and make an announcement. Oh yeah, it's a quick announcement

885
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 3: for the quam, just for the quain.

886
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: Okay, didn't see this through here you go, get a

887
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: live one. It's all line here? All right, yeah you're there.

888
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 3: Can you hear me?

889
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 9: Yeah?

890
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 3: Okay, hang on, okay, excuse me, everyone, please, don't have

891
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:49,760
Speaker 3: your attention just for three seconds. Well, what's about direction?

892
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 2: You're gonna shout the bod Jay and Taye for the

893
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 2: next ten minutes.

894
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 1: Got their attention now.

895
00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 3: Man for the next ten minutes. In honor of Q eight,

896
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 3: turns her love to Jay and Chase and change her

897
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 3: own name. What the hell? All right, this woman, I'm

898
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 3: get in there, buddy, I will. This is a lot

899
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 3: of people.

900
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 9: Get in the right.

901
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: She would have done about a generous Oh.

902
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 3: My god, will transfer transferring money? My cards already bound. No,

903
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 3: I will