Speaker 1: Flex and Frooms, Flex and Frooms. This is the Flex
Speaker 1: and Frooms catch up podcast.
Speaker 2: Eh, sweety pies. We don't want to end your week
Speaker 2: with anything but the best, So today Frumi is dishing
Speaker 2: all the goss and tea on the people and the
Speaker 2: professions to avoid if you want a successful and harmonious relationship.
Speaker 2: Who knows where she got this information, but I'm happy
Speaker 2: to hear it, happy to apply it. And also something
Speaker 2: about missing teaspoons and offices. What's the deal? Where did
Speaker 2: they go? Is there a teaspoon thief? Do you know one?
Speaker 2: Are you one? I don't know? Have a lovely weekend, though,
Speaker 2: here's the potty. You're listening to Flex and Frooms on
Speaker 2: Kita Now. I am no stranger to using the phrase
Speaker 2: eat Pray Love. I mean, I Eat Pray Love era
Speaker 2: this week, and I'm doing Eat Pray Love. And it
Speaker 2: had occurred to me in a moment of clarity that
Speaker 2: I have I have neither read the book or watched
Speaker 2: the movie. I don't even know what it's about, and
Speaker 2: I don't even really know what I'm saying when I
Speaker 2: say that, And I don't even really know what I'm
Speaker 2: communicating and what people are perceiving me to mean when
Speaker 2: I say I'm going to do eprey love.
Speaker 3: Can I tell you what I think of?
Speaker 1: Yes, being like lavish and laying down with a grape
Speaker 1: maney mouth, That's what.
Speaker 2: I see, right, I mean, I kind of thought she's
Speaker 2: like taking it easy, not stressing out broadly speaking, but
Speaker 2: I thought I would do some research. So Eat, Pray
Speaker 2: Love is built on the notion of a woman trying
Speaker 2: to heal herself from a severe emotional and spiritual crisis.
Speaker 2: It's a memoir by this woman called Elizabeth Gilbert, who,
Speaker 2: off the back of a divorce, leaves everything behind and
Speaker 2: goes traveling for a year, and the movie that gets
Speaker 2: made documents her quest to heal, find peace, and restore
Speaker 2: balance in her life as she travels through Rome, India
Speaker 2: and Bali, and her ventures bring forth all of these
Speaker 2: really painful lessons and self discoveries and resonating truths and
Speaker 2: so in the book, she talks about what she learned
Speaker 2: on her path to finding herself, and she also talks
Speaker 2: about the peace that she encountered on this path and
Speaker 2: how they responded to her solution of running away as
Speaker 2: a form of healing, and how you know they kind
Speaker 2: of humbled her in the process and what she ended
Speaker 2: up learning. And so there are a few quotes that
Speaker 2: I want to read out because while I didn't read
Speaker 2: the book, I thought, let me get a few nuggets
Speaker 2: near to see if it's gonna do a little bit
Speaker 2: of something for us. And so Liz herself says, if
Speaker 2: you're brave enough to leave behind everything familiar and comfany,
Speaker 2: which can be anything from your house to bitter old resentment,
Speaker 2: and set out on a truth seeking journey, either externally
Speaker 2: or internally. And if you're truly willing to regard everything
Speaker 2: that happens to you on that journey as a clue,
Speaker 2: and if you accept everyone you meet as a teacher,
Speaker 2: and if you are prepared most of all, to forgive
Speaker 2: some very difficult realities about yourself, then the truth will
Speaker 2: not be withheld from you. So that is the kind
Speaker 2: of vibe. It's this real soul searching, but not in
Speaker 2: the superficial way that I think most of us have
Speaker 2: been using it. Right, just like a casual I'm a
Speaker 2: switch on for the weekend, go back to the same
Speaker 2: like frustrating dynamics that has caused me to feel like
Speaker 2: I need to switch off for the weekend. And she
Speaker 2: has this excerpt from this guy called Richard that she
Speaker 2: met in Texas who she told about her journey of eat, pray,
Speaker 2: love and what she was doing, and he said this
Speaker 2: to her, you have to learn to select your thoughts
Speaker 2: the way you select your clothes every day. That's a
Speaker 2: power you can cultivate. You want to come here and
Speaker 2: control your life, so bad work on your mind. That's
Speaker 2: the only thing you should control. If you can't master
Speaker 2: your thoughts, you're in trouble. Stop trying surrender. And I
Speaker 2: guess my interpretation of that is like, you can't control
Speaker 2: the uncontrollable, and you can't control other people's actions, but
Speaker 2: you can dictate what you choose to process, and you
Speaker 2: can process your thoughts. And I think that a lot
Speaker 2: of us when we want to do this escapism thing,
Speaker 2: like go somewhere else, it kind of reminds me of
Speaker 2: that cliche wherever you go there you are, like you
Speaker 2: don't realize that you're carrying those perceptions with you and
Speaker 2: those burdens, and you're carrying the memories with you, and
Speaker 2: you're carrying the learnings with you. And if you're not
Speaker 2: careful of recognizing that that is the reality of the situation.
Speaker 2: You'll overhaul everything to disappear and end up right back
Speaker 2: where you were emotionally and mentally speaking.
Speaker 3: An unfortunate truth.
Speaker 2: WHOA so many of those popping up on the show
Speaker 2: these days. But look, timing is everything because it's it's
Speaker 2: It made me think what other words or phrases are
Speaker 2: we using that are so contradictory to what they truly mean?
Speaker 1: So larv, Yeah, what is that? What will be will be?
Speaker 1: I'm not sure such is life. I still don't know
Speaker 1: what Naquille was on about when he said such.
Speaker 3: Is life, Such as life, that's how it goes? Is
Speaker 3: that the vibe? I'm assuming such is life? Damn.
Speaker 1: We have had the unique pleasure of working at quite
Speaker 1: a few different corporate workspaces, I would say, over our
Speaker 1: time of being in the workforce ten years clocking on
Speaker 1: ten years. As we all know, I love to share
Speaker 1: that my first job was at a car yard Nebo higher,
Speaker 1: Nebo higher obviously, and I was helping make the coffees,
Speaker 1: amongst other things. I did have quite a wide, far
Speaker 1: reaching role, oh, one of them being a personality higher
Speaker 1: bringing morale and a youthful.
Speaker 2: Basically the operational manager logistics in general vibe.
Speaker 1: I used to think I was so good because I
Speaker 1: would like, be really casual and fun with the other CEOs.
Speaker 3: It would come in. I'm like, I was just entitled. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's okay.
Speaker 1: But now I know something that I noticed in my
Speaker 1: time as a corporate adjacent girly is that every single
Speaker 1: kitchen kitchenette has no cutlery.
Speaker 3: Yeah, were are all the baby spoons?
Speaker 2: That is a good question considering I don't think people
Speaker 2: are taking office cutlery home.
Speaker 1: See, I have been guilty of it tom time Again
Speaker 1: tomorrow I bring in a beautiful lazagne hands.
Speaker 3: Have you taken office cutlery? Have you?
Speaker 1: Jo?
Speaker 3: What do you mean you taking office culoring home?
Speaker 2: I just to leave my cutlery here because it's too
Speaker 2: grossed to packbacker into the handbag.
Speaker 3: What are you talking about?
Speaker 1: Pop it all into the tupperware that I've brought every
Speaker 1: time I bring Mickey a little risky two eats lunch.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I accidentally take one home.
Speaker 3: They're awful. I'll bring it back when I remember.
Speaker 2: But I'm like that, okay, fine, that makes sense. For
Speaker 2: maybe if a fork goes missing, a big spoon but
Speaker 2: where are the teaspoons going?
Speaker 1: Well, one TikTok is here to tell you.
Speaker 4: In the institute's eight tea rooms, and they made a
Speaker 4: weekly count of the spoons over the course of two months,
Speaker 4: and then a fortnightly count over the ensuing three months.
Speaker 4: After the five months the staff were told about the
Speaker 4: surreptitious study, they were asked to return or anonymously report
Speaker 4: any marked spoons that had made it to their desk,
Speaker 4: drawers or homes, and then they were asked to fill
Speaker 4: out a questionnaire. In all, fifty six of seventy or
Speaker 4: eighty percent of the teaspoons disappeared.
Speaker 2: I can imagine, because we do know that office cutlery
Speaker 2: just feels gross. Most office utensils feel really gross. However,
Speaker 2: the logic of keeping a little teaspoin for yourself and
Speaker 2: just using that same one bringing it back to your
Speaker 2: desk using that same one that feels fine, is that
Speaker 2: not allowed?
Speaker 1: I think that's probably a bit selfish.
Speaker 2: Then if there should be one for everyone, and I'm
Speaker 2: sure it's in the.
Speaker 1: Budget, let's go back to the budget's boys. Anyway, I
Speaker 1: am outing myself. I have found myself with a random
Speaker 1: piece of cutlery from this very building. HR already has
Speaker 1: many reasons to dislike me, and yet here I am
Speaker 1: on record fearless, a fearless, a fearless woman.
Speaker 2: A warrior.
Speaker 3: I wasn't gonna do it. I wait for it.
Speaker 2: But I think I can confidently say that we all
Speaker 2: really suck at conflict resolution. But is there something to
Speaker 2: learn from people who literally get paid to de escalate,
Speaker 2: People who literally have money coming in their account every
Speaker 2: week because during the work week they had to pick
Speaker 2: up a call from a disgruntled person, solve their problem
Speaker 2: and make them feel comfortable and heard in the process.
Speaker 2: Here is a video from a TikToker called Hay Slim
Speaker 2: four nine to eight.
Speaker 5: You're yelling again, okay, So remember when you yell, I
Speaker 5: can't assist you to my best ability because you're yelling,
Speaker 5: so I can't hear you clearly or understand you clearly. Okay, okay,
Speaker 5: So you yelling and getting worked up does not change
Speaker 5: the policies and procedures.
Speaker 2: This reminds me so clearly of a discussion for me
Speaker 2: and I were having last week on air, and we
Speaker 2: were talking about how some advice that people give you
Speaker 2: about conflict resolution is to kind of temper your emotions
Speaker 2: and to meet somebody's anger or emotional explosion with a
Speaker 2: sense of calm. And we said that we could imagine
Speaker 2: in a professional scenario that would work really well, but
Speaker 2: in personal scenarios that it could feel like you were
Speaker 2: in fantializing the person, because really, what it does feel
Speaker 2: like there's a gentle parenting technique where you kind of
Speaker 2: have to diffuse the emotional outbursts before you can even
Speaker 2: start picking away at the problem. But the issue is
Speaker 2: when the problem is the reason why you're having the
Speaker 2: emotional outbursts, it almost seems like you start and stop
Speaker 2: at the outbursts and you can't fix the thing. And
Speaker 2: it reminds me of what I've been noticing a lot online,
Speaker 2: especially these days, but a lot of the way that
Speaker 2: we interact with each other, a lot of things that
Speaker 2: we don't like about the world are symptoms of bigger problems,
Speaker 2: and so we create these micro cures for these symptoms
Speaker 2: that don't match up, or they soothe us for a
Speaker 2: short amount of time. So let's say I have a
Speaker 2: blaring headache because I blast music all day and I
Speaker 2: sleep with the lights on, and I don't drink water
Speaker 2: and so I feel like, Oh, I've got to move house.
Speaker 2: Not the real shit, be like, Oh I don't like
Speaker 2: my environment, I can't sleep here. You know, the vibes
Speaker 2: are off. I'm not taking the time to do a
Speaker 2: little bit of a self assessment and say, is there
Speaker 2: anything else here that could be contributing to this issue?
Speaker 2: But no, in my head, I know it's the house.
Speaker 2: And so if I meet anyone on that journey of
Speaker 2: moving who gets in the way of me finding that house,
Speaker 2: like a real estate agent is frustrating me, and so
Speaker 2: I take out my anger on them. Or I can't
Speaker 2: get my bond returned quickly enough, so I'm frustrated at that.
Speaker 2: Or I couldn't get the delivery organized quick enough, so
Speaker 2: I'm frustrated at that, Or because I'm creating solutions for
Speaker 2: a problem that wouldn't exist if I thought about the
Speaker 2: problem a little bit more. The point is, as it remains,
Speaker 2: I feel like in that instance as well, like if
Speaker 2: you're calling a call center and that person is the
Speaker 2: only barrier between you and a solution and you demean them,
Speaker 2: it means you don't really have a good understanding of
Speaker 2: what your best case scenario is, because if you really
Speaker 2: wanted a solution, you would work with this person to
Speaker 2: help you. But I think in a lot of times
Speaker 2: we just want to be heard. We just want to
Speaker 2: get seen, frustrated, acknowledged and be seen and heard. And
Speaker 2: what have we been talking about on Flexi's big questions?
Speaker 2: What's the appropriate way to express anger?
Speaker 3: We don't know?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't know.
Speaker 3: Will you help us get to an answer?
Speaker 2: Flex I'm learning in my own time. So if I
Speaker 2: figure out the answer, I'm in a practice a bit
Speaker 2: and I might gatekeeper. I mean, just for a little back,
Speaker 2: a little bit throwback. You're listening to Flex and Rooms
Speaker 2: on Kita.
Speaker 1: Here on the show, we are always questing for knowledge.
Speaker 1: We are thirsty to learn more and to enjoy life.
Speaker 3: We came across a TikTok.
Speaker 1: It's by Boston family lawyer, and they have gone in
Speaker 1: to tell the loyal listeners of such a TikTok the
Speaker 1: kind of people to avoid based on their profession, as
Speaker 1: is always when we're making broad, sweeping statements and encouraging stereotypes.
Speaker 2: Take but it doesn't apply, Let it fly, doesn't apply,
Speaker 2: Let it fly.
Speaker 1: I find that difficult sometimes when I get my back
Speaker 1: up and get a bit offended, but it's a great
Speaker 1: way to practice dealing with things that you don't agree
Speaker 1: with when people are wrong. So allegedly, the Boston family
Speaker 1: lawyer says these are the professions to avoid. I'm assuming
Speaker 1: they're because this Boston family lawyer has dealt with a
Speaker 1: lot of divorces. And that's just me surmising Jack and
Speaker 1: I would have been a good lawyer.
Speaker 3: What kind of barrister? Maybe be theatrics?
Speaker 2: I think you have a different energy more do you
Speaker 2: have to suppress a lot of parts of your personality
Speaker 2: and like bring up other parts like the Karen would
Speaker 2: work well in that environment.
Speaker 3: This is what I'm thinking.
Speaker 2: But playful through me? Could you really hang? I think
Speaker 2: I think judges like it. They get a little have
Speaker 2: a bit of fun with her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they like that kind of chutzpa.
Speaker 2: Holtzpa we learned.
Speaker 3: Pardon me?
Speaker 1: Okay, these are the professions to avoid.
Speaker 3: Number one plumber.
Speaker 2: I would say you would have gone from four down. Okay, sorry, no,
Speaker 2: it's too late. So if it's in order of like
Speaker 2: most avoids, leaf avoid a good.
Speaker 1: Listen, and no hate to plumbers. As we know, I
Speaker 1: have a cousin who's a we do know. If you
Speaker 1: guys need a plumber in Melbourne, hit me up, I'll
Speaker 1: share the dates.
Speaker 3: Great, great guy.
Speaker 1: That's because they have a regular hours, easy access to
Speaker 1: other people, and freedom.
Speaker 3: We've all seen the corn videos. The plumber shows up
Speaker 3: at the house, the wife is alone. You do the math.
Speaker 1: Number two electricians, I'm assuming that's for the same reason
Speaker 1: as plumbers. I also think being electrician is quite a
Speaker 1: dangerous job. That's why they get paid a lot of money.
Speaker 1: Shout out to the all the electricians. Okay. Number three pilots,
Speaker 1: which I see March Simpson's father was a steward. Number
Speaker 1: four doctors.
Speaker 3: I mean there's a there's a duty.
Speaker 1: Of care that a doctor must so if we're if
Speaker 1: we're talking meeting people on.
Speaker 3: The job, that's actually against Melbourne more.
Speaker 2: So than just the irregular hours, easy access to other people,
Speaker 2: and freedom. Like all of these jobs listed plumber, electrician, pilots,
Speaker 2: and lawyers, these are all high stress, high adrenaline, high
Speaker 2: quarters sold jobs. And sure when you're making decisions at
Speaker 2: a level that's so critical every day, you would kind
Speaker 2: of drop the ball and get decision fatigue. For the
Speaker 2: basic stuff. I just saved someone's life cut me some slack.
Speaker 3: Cut me some slack.
Speaker 1: Anyway, if you're a plumber, an electrician, a pilot, or
Speaker 1: a doctor, power to you. We salute you, thank you
Speaker 1: for your service, and it's a pleasure to have you.
Speaker 1: It's time for our favorite time of the week. It's
Speaker 1: the end of the la week. It's Friday, and it's
Speaker 1: time for.
Speaker 3: Mickey's music Quiz. Hello, Hi, hell, are you hits me?
Speaker 3: It's m I K K I. Is that what your
Speaker 3: friends call you?
Speaker 6: You guys are actually the only people that call me Mickey?
Speaker 5: Whoa?
Speaker 6: But it has infiltrated the friendship group.
Speaker 3: What do you say about us in new Chat? You
Speaker 3: got a favorite? Its me?
Speaker 2: Yeah, guys, and I'd be surprised if it wasn't for
Speaker 2: your brain. Siamese twiny things.
Speaker 6: I love you in different ways, different babe, I love
Speaker 6: youth in different ways.
Speaker 3: All right, let's play the queen.
Speaker 6: That's the point.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 6: Today's quiz it's musicians who are also actors.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, I got to be out of shack
Speaker 1: this week, guys, Madonna?
Speaker 3: All right, let's go. Who's to say? Oh my god,
Speaker 3: I'm scared sexy back. Justin's in like that? Was quick, babe,
Speaker 3: he's on heaps? He did that?
Speaker 1: Mean?
Speaker 2: Like cens movie with Madonna?
Speaker 3: What? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Do you want me to pull up the discory random jt.
Speaker 6: Okay number two?
Speaker 1: That on?
Speaker 3: This one's hard? Wait again?
Speaker 2: Oh this is Cake by the Ocean?
Speaker 6: What bad liar Bicelena Gomez?
Speaker 3: That wasn't coming.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that wasn't clue?
Speaker 1: Oh, Rihanna, Yes, it's like that real anthemic one?
Speaker 3: Is that day? Who's that with? Is that with?
Speaker 2: Is that with Mickey?
Speaker 3: No? Is that Paul McCartney?
Speaker 6: No, but I did that for five seconds.
Speaker 2: It's just different. Now this is not in my.
Speaker 1: You're really hard today, Please play it again?
Speaker 3: I thought this.
Speaker 6: It sounds like I really thought.
Speaker 3: You'd know genre.
Speaker 2: Is that too many noises?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 6: Sorry, No, it's Kimmy K turned me up?
Speaker 3: Who have you ever turned me up?
Speaker 1: Like Kimmy K a little bit?
Speaker 3: I didn't know kim Kardashen had a singing moment.
Speaker 6: Because I can't believe you guys didn't know about that
Speaker 6: was incredible?
Speaker 3: Have you seen that?
Speaker 2: No? But I'm also really against I told you how
Speaker 2: DJing put me off a lot of music.
Speaker 3: It's too much.
Speaker 6: I think anyone was teaching, and they should they should. Okay,
Speaker 6: it's one all this time might be hard.
Speaker 3: Okay, it's a bit of an old school moment, Nirvana,
Speaker 3: you really stopped us this.
Speaker 6: Wow, that was David Bowie heroes.
Speaker 1: Come on, do we.
Speaker 2: Not understanding Mickey? Get out of here?
Speaker 3: Don't there's too creative one.
Speaker 2: This.
Speaker 3: I don't know what you think this is.
Speaker 2: Is great Friday trying to pull a fast on? Do
Speaker 2: you want to embarrass that humiliation ritual?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: Okay, actors, actors can cut ash David, this is common Beyonce,
Speaker 2: could we do a common beyond?
Speaker 3: I was like, We've had enough, Beyonce.
Speaker 6: I was like, I was like, I've had enough photo
Speaker 6: every week?
Speaker 3: You know what about a common j Lo?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I thought that was true.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm real scared? Is okay?
Speaker 5: Guys?
Speaker 3: Okay anymore? No, that was it?
Speaker 1: Well, you know what, Mickey, I'll play you the one
Speaker 1: and only Davy Bowie songs.
Speaker 3: Berwie, It's Friday, give me a break Friday. You guys ready?
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the exact example you were talking about
Speaker 1: at the previous break FLEXI about how if you listen
Speaker 1: to too much of like one thing, it can change
Speaker 1: your mood. This to me is the song that gives
Speaker 1: me sad vibes, quirky sad vibes and a bit scared.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's giving, it's giving me scary.
Speaker 2: It's very it's quirky, scary for sure, and even a
Speaker 2: little bit sad.
Speaker 3: It's been a pleasure to have you, guys.
Speaker 2: And this is why you're not the music director.
Speaker 1: Hey SERI play Peggy Goo Na na Nah.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do it on.
Speaker 1: It goes like Nanana edit by Peggy Gown now playing
Speaker 1: on guys.
Speaker 3: Nice all right, It's been a pleasure to have you, guys.
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