WEBVTT - UNPACKED REALITY- AUSTRALIAN IDOL - IMOGEN 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:01.760 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:05.360 TV Reload the podcast last week. They Hey guys, welcome 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:07.160 back to TV Reload. I want to thank you for 0:00:07.200 --> 0:00:10.400 clicking and downloading on today's episode with Imagen, one of 0:00:10.400 --> 0:00:13.640 the first eliminated singers from Australian Idol on Channel seven. 0:00:14.120 --> 0:00:18.440 Twenty one years after Guy Sebastian pipped Shannonault become Australia's 0:00:18.480 --> 0:00:23.239 first Idol, the International Starmaking reality TV Sensation has returned 0:00:23.239 --> 0:00:25.600 to Channel seven and seven plus. And if you aren't 0:00:25.720 --> 0:00:28.680 watching this series, then you're missing out because there is 0:00:28.720 --> 0:00:32.280 some sensational talent a part of the Top twelve. Scott 0:00:32.320 --> 0:00:34.400 Tweety did tell me that this was going to be 0:00:34.440 --> 0:00:37.239 the toughest season of Australian Idol yet and with the 0:00:37.280 --> 0:00:40.520 Top twelve losing two of the most talked about contestants 0:00:40.600 --> 0:00:43.440 this year, I am getting the privilege of sitting down 0:00:43.479 --> 0:00:46.320 with Imagen to get all the goss. We will unpack 0:00:46.400 --> 0:00:49.040 why this season features the bottom two singing when the 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:52.440 votes have already been counted. Imagen will talk about her 0:00:52.479 --> 0:00:56.000 friendship with fellow eliminated contestant Ripley and what they were 0:00:56.120 --> 0:00:59.880 like backstage after their elimination. I will also ask about 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:03.440 Kyle Sandalance and what Imagen thinks of his judging style, 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:07.000 plus who Imagen thinks will win the competition, and which 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:10.760 Taylor Swift song was knocked back by producers. There's actually 0:01:10.880 --> 0:01:13.240 so much to one pack with image in today, and 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:15.960 she is really generous with her time to sit back 0:01:15.959 --> 0:01:18.800 and relax as we dive just that little bit deeper 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:22.480 into the world of Australian idol. I feel like starting 0:01:22.480 --> 0:01:24.480 this off by saying, can you just sing some songs 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:24.760 for me? 0:01:24.959 --> 0:01:27.640 Ah, Babs babe. Yeah, you know, That's what I've been 0:01:27.640 --> 0:01:27.920 doing on. 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:31.240 The show, so absolutely. You know, I'm excited to talk 0:01:31.240 --> 0:01:33.240 to you because I mean, I think not only do 0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:36.640 I think you are a phenomenal artist, but I kind 0:01:36.640 --> 0:01:38.880 of feel like I would get along with you very well. 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:40.240 I want to drink with you. 0:01:40.760 --> 0:01:43.360 Yeah, yeah, I mean, I'd like to say we'd have 0:01:43.400 --> 0:01:44.560 fun going out in town. 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:48.280 My sister texted me this morning as Edward yeah o'clock 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:50.920 and said to me, I've got to explain some six 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:53.320 degrees of separation that's going on here. 0:01:54.360 --> 0:01:56.680 I literally, well, I called mass the last night and 0:01:56.720 --> 0:01:58.720 that's how we piece this whole thing together, but go 0:01:58.880 --> 0:01:59.200 for it. 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:02.120 I was going to say that version of Celene Dion 0:02:02.320 --> 0:02:05.720 would have been really hard under any circumstances. Is it 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:08.160 much harder when you've got to sing in a save 0:02:08.280 --> 0:02:09.000 me situation? 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:11.880 Well, I don't know, because it really wasn't like a 0:02:11.919 --> 0:02:13.519 save me situation because. 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:14.760 The votes would have already been decided. 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:17.440 So like, I feel like, as soon as those doors opened, 0:02:17.440 --> 0:02:19.440 I was like, look, there's nothing I can do, so 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:22.200 I've just got to like have a really good time 0:02:22.240 --> 0:02:24.440 and put on a really good performance and just kind of, 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:26.680 I don't know, it was sort of like a relief 0:02:26.960 --> 0:02:28.960 came over me, I feel like, which I think showed 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:32.400 in the performance because it came across as really strong. 0:02:32.720 --> 0:02:34.360 Why are they making you do that when it's not 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:35.520 going to help the situation? 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:38.519 You know, I don't know. I don't know TV antics. 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:40.360 I guess I guess they want to give us like 0:02:40.400 --> 0:02:43.120 one big send off in the end, so that like 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:45.239 it's sort of like, you know, Australia, this is the 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:47.880 people you've decided are in the bottom and it's on you. 0:02:48.280 --> 0:02:50.800 So we get like a little concert for those four 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:53.040 people that are down in the bottom. But at the 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:55.080 same time. You know, I think a lot of people 0:02:55.080 --> 0:02:56.840 were like, I think we just want to see the 0:02:56.840 --> 0:03:00.200 person that leaves do their final song or need to 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:02.040 be a save me situation. So look, there's a lot 0:03:02.040 --> 0:03:04.840 of conversations that seem to be happening today from behind 0:03:04.840 --> 0:03:05.320 the scenes. 0:03:05.560 --> 0:03:08.440 You know, it was kind of crazy, like seeing literally 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:12.040 like the floods of reaction on social media of people 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:13.280 just being like, what is going on? 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:14.600 Like me and Ripley in the bottom. 0:03:14.680 --> 0:03:18.160 I think no one really expected, like even across production, 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:19.240 everyone was shocked. 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:21.800 Well, you're the two most popular people in my mind, 0:03:21.880 --> 0:03:23.000 but I think that's what happened. 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:25.880 People think you're safe if they're like someone will vote 0:03:25.880 --> 0:03:28.120 for them, But like, you're trying to vote for the 0:03:28.160 --> 0:03:30.160 people that you're worried are going to get out. 0:03:30.160 --> 0:03:31.440 You're not trying to vote for the people that you 0:03:31.440 --> 0:03:32.400 think are going to go through. 0:03:32.520 --> 0:03:35.080 You know that both of you have, you know, scared 0:03:35.080 --> 0:03:37.600 the bejeezus out of the voters now, So I think 0:03:37.640 --> 0:03:40.160 people need to pick up their phones and start voting. 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:42.360 Sometimes I think Marsha's a little over the top with 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:45.760 her antics when she's trying to explain that to the audience, 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:49.120 But I'm now that person. I'm like people like you're 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:50.480 going to lose your favorite artists. 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:50.840 Yeah. 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:53.440 Literally, it's like and it really comes down to like 0:03:53.480 --> 0:03:55.920 a handful of votes at like every time. Like even 0:03:55.960 --> 0:03:58.160 Ivana and TJ being at the bottom was kind of crazy. 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:01.720 Like it was USh shocking night for sure for everyone. 0:04:01.880 --> 0:04:04.760 I'm in great television for I mean, the producer rubbing 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:08.040 their hands together and you know, it was exciting. I mean, 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:09.640 I have to say that I haven't screamed at my 0:04:09.720 --> 0:04:11.400 TV in a long time. I think when TV got 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:13.840 up and run Away thinks it's in trouble with me. 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:16.120 How do you see yourself as an artist moving forward? 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:18.000 Because I got up this morning and did a deep 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:20.520 dive on your Instagram, and you know, I was so 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:23.960 impressed with your back catalog and sort of your journey 0:04:24.000 --> 0:04:25.840 as an artist. Just listening to some of the music 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:28.400 you make at home and seeing some of the productions 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:30.479 that you've been a part of. You know, the question 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:32.919 that came to mind for me was who are you 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:35.440 as an artist? That to me is the question at 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:36.960 this point and everyone's question. 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:38.040 I think we got on the show to kind of 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:42.640 establish ourselves. I went to university for electronic music production. 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:45.560 So I'm a producer as well, and I make a 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:48.240 lot of my own tracks, and I'm a songwriter. I 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:50.640 do a lot of like R and B pop stuff, 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:53.279 which is really exciting. It's kind of strange, Like I 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:55.800 think the show took me on sort of the big 0:04:55.880 --> 0:04:58.880 valid journey because it's that's obviously makes really good TV 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:01.400 and it's a really od this way of showing someone 0:05:01.960 --> 0:05:04.200 like showing their abilities, if that makes sense. And the 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:06.839 stuff I make, obviously I still scream and yell and 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:08.000 wail in my music. 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:10.159 I said one of your songs this morning at Chapel 0:05:10.160 --> 0:05:12.839 Off Chapel and I was playing it through the music 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:16.080 that's in my studio here this morning and it sounded amazing. 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:18.040 So anyone that's listening to this, you know, if you're 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:20.960 feeling really sad about image and leaving the competition, get 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:23.400 onto the Instagram, start listening to some of those tracks. 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:24.040 They're amazing. 0:05:24.279 --> 0:05:27.240 Yeah, get on my Instagram. Jimmy spenlove Undercore. I've got 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:29.440 a catalog. I've got a long line of songs for 0:05:29.440 --> 0:05:30.239 you guys to enjoy. 0:05:30.400 --> 0:05:32.720 So what I thought might have happened, And by the way, 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:35.440 I'll ask you about Taylor Swift because I saw that 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:38.039 you went to the concert. But yeah, I wondered whether 0:05:38.120 --> 0:05:39.800 or not a good Tailor Swift song might have been 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:42.040 appropriate at this point. You know, with all of the 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:46.080 Tailor Swift hype, there's song choices that you were suggesting 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:48.359 that suited you a little bit better, or that you 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:50.240 wanted to do that we didn't get a chance to see. 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:53.359 Oh, you know, there was like it's tricky with TV 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:55.919 because there's a lot of like red taping into crass 0:05:55.920 --> 0:05:58.600 and getting songs approved and finding the copyright for everything. 0:05:58.640 --> 0:06:01.200 I know some people like Party Week. Some of the 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:03.719 reactions was like I don't understand these song choices, and 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:06.000 it's literally like whatever we can get over the line 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:07.080 is what we end up having. 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:07.440 To work with. 0:06:07.600 --> 0:06:09.240 But it makes a lot of more sense. It's like 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:11.520 when you go to a karaoke bar and it's the 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:14.040 one of those Vietnamese ones and they don't have all 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:17.000 the song choices and you've been dreaming about, you know, 0:06:17.160 --> 0:06:19.760 pumping out your karaoke song and it's not there. 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:20.640 Yeah. 0:06:20.680 --> 0:06:24.000 Literally, like, there are a few tracks that I desperately 0:06:24.040 --> 0:06:27.120 wanted to do in the show. Oh, we really wanted 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:30.479 to do like Olivia Rodrigo Vampire at one point, which 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:33.200 would have been so sick. There's like a couple like 0:06:33.440 --> 0:06:35.880 more kooky ones. We wanted to do some like more 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:38.680 covers of like male led songs and changing them up 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:41.080 a bit. There is a bunch of tracks that I 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:43.159 would be like, and even Tailor Swift. I'd put forward 0:06:43.200 --> 0:06:45.160 like a million Tailorswift songs and they'd be like, we can't. 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:47.720 Yeah, what would have been the Taylor's Swift song. I mean, 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:50.560 I'm in a Swifty fever right now, So forgive me 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:54.479 for hammering this particular point. But kind of like you 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:57.360 know what your fantasy you know those Fantasy League things 0:06:57.400 --> 0:06:59.880 that people have, you know, yeah, Fantasy League songs for 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:02.320 image and yeah right, so. 0:07:02.400 --> 0:07:03.240 Okay, here's my thing. 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:05.240 So my one of my favorite talors of songs of 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:06.960 all time, which would not have worked for the show 0:07:07.080 --> 0:07:08.400 is Last Great American Dynasty. 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:10.040 But I'm just putting it on the table. I love 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:12.920 that song so much, but I reckon for the trajectory 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:13.360 of the show. 0:07:13.920 --> 0:07:16.000 I reckon, don't blame me, would have been a big hit, 0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:19.120 you know, like something a bit darker. They sort of 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:21.520 on the show. They wanted me to kind of fill 0:07:21.520 --> 0:07:23.120 a niche that was a bit more girl. 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:24.680 Next doory, which like I was. 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:27.400 Completely happy to do, but like it gets a little 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:29.960 tired to kind of continuously be sort of just like 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:32.760 pious and standing there and you know, being very happy 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:35.160 about everything. Some I always wanted to go like something 0:07:35.160 --> 0:07:37.640 a bit darker, something a bit more interesting for me 0:07:37.680 --> 0:07:40.000 to sink my teeth into. But like those kinds of 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:44.120 things don't always translate really well on TV, and you 0:07:44.120 --> 0:07:46.120 don't want to do like such a hard switch that 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:48.680 your audience is going like, ah, what's going on? 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:50.320 This is not what I'm used to, you know. 0:07:50.640 --> 0:07:52.960 So like I totally get the songs they picked for 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:55.240 me for the trajectory. I mean the last one this 0:07:55.280 --> 0:07:58.400 moment on got me like Shania Twain's recognition, So I 0:07:58.480 --> 0:08:00.520 was like fucking tickbox there. 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:03.640 Hello, like life moments. 0:08:03.720 --> 0:08:07.160 You know, it's not even March and Shania Twain has 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:08.040 noticed me this year. 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:11.320 You know, twenty twenty four is going pretty well so far. Yeah, 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:13.040 I often say to people as well, you don't want 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:15.560 to win these things either, because then you're just slapped 0:08:15.560 --> 0:08:18.200 with being the winner of that show. And Australia's tall 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:20.520 poppy syndrome might mean that we don't ever want to 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:21.640 see you again, do you know what I mean? That 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:24.320 seems to be a trend that happens in Australia where 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:27.040 you really got a chance to get a taste of 0:08:27.080 --> 0:08:30.840 something quite mainstream and get to understand television a little 0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:33.560 bit better. And I'm sure you're thinking, at the moment, 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:36.679 television is nowhere near as glamorous is what you'd originally 0:08:36.720 --> 0:08:38.320 thought it was, do you know what I mean? Like 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:41.200 people were watching it at home, They're always like, oh God, 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:43.920 that looks so amazing. The photos are being taken and 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:45.480 I get the outfits and all the rest of it, 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:47.520 but behind the scenes it's very unnglamorous. 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:49.320 I think, oh completely, it's all smoke and mirrors. 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:52.400 Everyone's just like the amount of times I feel like 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:55.840 I've gotten like half naked backstage trying to put like 0:08:55.880 --> 0:08:58.160 pull a driyce on or pull costumes on, and everyone's 0:08:58.200 --> 0:09:00.120 like touching you and like doing your hair, are you 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:00.440 make up? 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:01.800 Or pullink spanks onto your body? 0:09:01.840 --> 0:09:04.040 Like there's so many things you don't see or probably 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:08.000 probably for the best. There's a going joke in the 0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:10.440 last show where wardrobe was like the first person who 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:13.600 can get changed to the fastest gets a prized like 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:14.200 like all that. 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:15.760 Kind of stuff that's happening backstage. 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:19.040 What's interesting to me is like a lot of the 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:22.040 backlash for the show is talking about how like pre 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:24.960 planned everything is. When you're going through it, it really 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:27.240 doesn't feel like that. It feels like things are moving 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:29.800 and changing all of the time. The trajectory of people's 0:09:29.840 --> 0:09:32.600 stories are changing and moving, Like the Shania Twain thing. 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:34.640 For me was not a planned event at all, Like 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:36.800 no one expected that to happen, and we sort of 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:38.600 had to adapt as it happened. 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:40.400 Yeah, it's it's weird. 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:42.960 I think people think TV is such like a finished, beautiful, 0:09:42.960 --> 0:09:44.880 perfect package, and when it gets to you, it is, 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:47.120 but there are so many little nitty gritty details that 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:48.080 have to happen before it. 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:50.719 Guys say that to people, you know, I think this 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:53.000 is a really good sort of a taste of all 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:55.400 of this for you, And I think that this experience 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:58.200 would have been great because you've got some amazing judges. 0:09:58.240 --> 0:10:00.160 Like last year is a little bit dubious about the 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:02.600 way in which it came together. It felt a little contrived. 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:06.120 I sometimes don't like American judges or overseas judges judging 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:09.719 out Australian talent where I felt like this lineup, they 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:13.720 genuinely care and they're actually handing over valid information. I mean, 0:10:13.800 --> 0:10:16.000 Kyle's outrageous, but that's exactly what people are going to 0:10:16.040 --> 0:10:18.320 say when you get out of you know, when you're autist. 0:10:18.400 --> 0:10:20.760 Anyway, that's the thing me and Ripley were talking about 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:23.920 it today. We were just like, if you know Kyle, 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:27.560 he'll say things, but he's usually right. He's just blunt 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:30.480 about it very much like this is my opinion, take 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:32.680 it or leave it. But also it's like you're on 0:10:32.720 --> 0:10:34.600 a talent show, he's a judge, you should probably take 0:10:34.760 --> 0:10:35.640 the advice, you know. 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:38.439 Being paid hundreds of millions of dollars for no reason. Yeah, 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:40.120 man has a gift, like you know. 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:43.000 An industry pro. You know, take whatever you can get, 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:44.440 even if he's even if he's being. 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:46.800 Harsh, like my last performance, he was pretty harsh with me, 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:48.880 but I like, I get it. It was like when 0:10:48.880 --> 0:10:51.400 I finished that, I remember being like, oh that was messy, 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:53.360 and that was the first thing he picked up on 0:10:53.480 --> 0:10:54.400 in not so many words. 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:56.720 I guess, did they give you any advice? Though, like 0:10:56.800 --> 0:10:58.920 as in, when the show finished, did you get any 0:10:58.920 --> 0:11:01.400 advice Once the lights go off and you know you've 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:03.640 been eliminated from this show, did you get any moments 0:11:03.640 --> 0:11:06.240 with these three? And what was Can you share any 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:06.760 of that with me? 0:11:07.040 --> 0:11:09.240 We sort of were like very much pulled off to 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:10.600 the side, but we got to have a chat with 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:12.679 Ricky Lee, which was really lovely and. 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:14.120 She gets it more than anyone. 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:15.439 She gets yeah completely. 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:17.480 She like pulled me and Rip aside and was just 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:20.240 like that was insane for started. She was like, I'm shocked. 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:22.520 Everyone's shocked. No one was expecting this. And she just 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:25.559 was like you have to now like use it, say 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:28.360 yes to everything, take everything that you can, every opportunity 0:11:28.400 --> 0:11:29.520 that comes your way, Like. 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:31.520 This is the point now where like I feel like 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:33.800 going through the show is so much work. 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:35.440 It's a lot of early mornings, it's a lot of 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:37.920 long days, like twelve Like some people don't realize we're 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:40.280 on set for like twelve to seventeen hours sometimes like 0:11:40.600 --> 0:11:41.640 long days. 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:43.760 And she was just sort of like, you know, this 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:45.760 is just the beginning. It's only going to get harder. 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:47.760 Work, but it's going to be more rewarding, which was 0:11:47.800 --> 0:11:49.440 really lovely to hear from her. 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:50.240 It was great. 0:11:50.440 --> 0:11:52.880 You know. What's also quite amazing is that you've bumped 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:55.079 out of the competition at the same time as someone 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:58.200 else who is also so well regarded. But if you 0:11:58.200 --> 0:12:01.040 look at the company that you're keeping with, yeah, you know, 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:03.679 that sort of shows you how tough this competition is, 0:12:03.720 --> 0:12:05.120 you know what I mean. It's like that old saying, 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:06.320 you know, if I'm going to get if I'm going 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:08.280 to get beaten, I get beaten by the best kind 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:09.000 of thing, you know. 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:13.400 Completely, and everyone is just like they're so different and 0:12:13.520 --> 0:12:16.760 really really good at what they do. Like that's literally it. 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:20.000 It's a really difficult competition. And the tricky part now 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:21.959 is it is literally up to public boat. Like there 0:12:22.000 --> 0:12:24.520 isn't as much control as like the show has, so 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:27.640 it is really up in the air at all times. 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:30.280 But when I sort of, you know, I got. 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:33.360 Eliminated and I'm like waiting in a corridor chatting to people, and. 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:35.480 I hear like Ripley in a separate room going. 0:12:35.760 --> 0:12:39.800 Immagen hap here, you know, and we just like had 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:41.240 a bit of a cuddle and a bit of a 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:43.000 cry and it was like, I don't know, it was 0:12:43.040 --> 0:12:46.360 weirdly validating because he is so impressive and so good. 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:48.760 It's kind of nice to go out together, you know, 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:49.600 as a team. 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:51.520 Well, I think the take home at the moment this 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:53.760 morning for across the fan base is that, you know, 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:56.679 the results on shows like this, like these singing competitions. 0:12:56.760 --> 0:12:58.280 You know, it's taken us a long time to get 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:01.040 back to watching live and giving people such a short 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:04.640 time frame voting. And then when you look at the 0:13:04.640 --> 0:13:07.080 fact that there's a lot of people watching a majority 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:10.559 of freeedoware television catch up, they're not voting. So yeah, 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:14.520 there's a few explanations that are quite broad when it 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:17.080 comes to the way on which these results shows are 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:20.040 being dictated. Because the sort of person that's going to 0:13:20.040 --> 0:13:22.160 be home that's going to vote, you know, there's a 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:24.280 lot more things in line than when we saw a 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:26.079 Strain and Idol when it was first on television. 0:13:26.280 --> 0:13:29.319 Yeah, and the audience is like, is very different as well. 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:32.000 It's one of those things I remember when it was 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:35.600 me and TJ, Like I just had a feeling that 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:36.320 it was going to be me. 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:37.400 I don't know what it is. 0:13:37.559 --> 0:13:40.400 I like everyone I've talked to, because I've been chatting 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:41.920 to people who've been eliminated from the show. 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:43.720 They all say the same thing. It's like you just know. 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:46.160 It just comes over you and you're like, yeah. 0:13:46.000 --> 0:13:47.719 It's me, this is the end. 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:48.120 Yeah. 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:51.520 I will tell you from doing reality TV that every 0:13:51.720 --> 0:13:54.520 every week I thought I was I thought I'd been 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:56.680 told I was going home. So I do feel like 0:13:56.760 --> 0:13:59.640 it's interesting when you hear other Reality TV contestants and 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:02.400 similar our environments go, oh, I knew it was me, 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:04.040 But I can tell you that I always thought it 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:06.599 was me every single week, you know what I mean? Yeah, 0:14:06.640 --> 0:14:09.079 and I was wrong. And I also won't live as 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:11.840 long because it actually wasn't good for my central nervous 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:12.480 system either. 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:15.480 Oh yeah, I actually think I'm going to pass out. 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:16.559 I want to get back to my earn. 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:18.800 I'll need like at least a week and a half 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:22.200 to reset my nervous system. Oh, you're just like in 0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:24.280 a slightly heightened state of survival. 0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:25.000 Mode all the time. 0:14:25.280 --> 0:14:28.360 It's really crazy, and you don't realize it until you 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:30.280 like get off set and you're like, oh. 0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:33.920 God, you know, I want to ask you who you 0:14:33.920 --> 0:14:35.600 think is going to win at this point. 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:36.840 I don't know. 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:39.720 I mean, like not best friend, competition because like, I'm 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:42.480 sure you've got people in there that's relationship based, but nay, 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:44.520 I've got a taste for the way the voting is happening. 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:46.640 They've got a taste, and you've got a front row 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:48.960 seat to all of this. I'd love to know your pick. 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:50.880 You're getting a million dollars if you get this right. 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:54.160 Look, I think me and Ripper on the same page. 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:57.000 I think it's like Dylan is the strongest at the moment. 0:14:57.240 --> 0:14:59.560 I think he's got really good image going around. He's 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:02.600 also a lovely guy, so lovely to work with, and 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:05.200 an incredible vocalist. He has so many things going for 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:08.640 him at the moment. I think he's probably my top pick. 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:10.560 I think he's going to win. That's how I think 0:15:10.600 --> 0:15:12.320 as well. This is how I knew we were going 0:15:12.360 --> 0:15:15.000 to be friends, because I think the same Before you 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:17.360 go once, something I ask everyone is what is something 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:19.400 from behind the scenes, something that you know for people 0:15:19.480 --> 0:15:21.240 at home that are watching this show they wouldn't get 0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:23.120 a chance to see. Can you sort of peel back 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:25.800 the layers of Australian idol and share something Well, I 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:26.200 don't know. 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:29.120 I literally I think you hit the nail on the 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:32.680 head with it's not glamorous. It's really like like no 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:35.320 one's really holding your hand through this whole process. It's 0:15:35.360 --> 0:15:37.920 you're getting poked and prodded the whole way through. You'll 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:39.720 be about to go on stage and someone will grab 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:42.400 you for like a little camera moment. You know, it's 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:45.760 it's really happening in the moment. And I think my 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:49.320 biggest takeaway is like now watching reality TV and you 0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:52.120 watch people who kind of act really outrageously, You're like, 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:54.360 I completely understand how they would get to. 0:15:54.320 --> 0:15:57.160 That point because it's so stressed and you've. 0:15:57.400 --> 0:15:59.960