WEBVTT - What Is The Gen Z Camera Shake? 📸

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<v Speaker 1>Flex and Frooms, Flex and Fromes. This is the Flex

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<v Speaker 1>What the frick, Lexie? We must keep the TikTok how

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<v Speaker 1>do you call it? Analysis? Continuing? Because what's more annoying

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<v Speaker 1>than tiktoks? Analyzing tiktoks? I feel like we don't have

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<v Speaker 1>the language yet.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you know what's more annoying than analyzing tiktoks is

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<v Speaker 4>explaining a TikTok?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I hate it, I hate it, don't make me

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<v Speaker 1>do it. Well. One thing that I'm sure we both

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<v Speaker 1>have seen is the gen Z shake. I think after

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<v Speaker 1>the millennial pause, the millennials hit back and said, we

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<v Speaker 1>can also pathologicize what you're doing, and so the gen

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<v Speaker 1>Z shake was coineda oh, the camera shake. Yees, So

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<v Speaker 1>when they're putting the phone down, I thought they were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about this one where they put their hands in

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<v Speaker 1>front of them.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the camera shake. So what gen Z have been

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<v Speaker 4>known to do when they're posting content is to hit

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<v Speaker 4>the record button and then stabilize their phone on a

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<v Speaker 4>surface and shake it around, give the illusion of this

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<v Speaker 4>is happening haphazardly in a moment, I'm not even thinking

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<v Speaker 4>about posting just an extension of what I do. Whereas

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<v Speaker 4>millennials generally set themselves up, prepare themselves, click record, and

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<v Speaker 4>then double check its recording so they can just then

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<v Speaker 4>they can speak with certainty that it's their facts.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, this is an explainer straight from the belly the based.

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<v Speaker 5>With gen Z, a lot of their institutions crumbled around them.

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<v Speaker 5>They no longer have the school institution that everyone else did,

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<v Speaker 5>the job institution, the college institution, and as a result,

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<v Speaker 5>it was even more amplified that they had to be

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<v Speaker 5>perceived online as a way to kind of pay to

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<v Speaker 5>play seriously, And I think because of that generational resentment,

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<v Speaker 5>a way of rebelling against this is by approaching everything

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<v Speaker 5>they do online in a kind of ironic way. Someone

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<v Speaker 5>who's gen Z could go on to get a PhD

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<v Speaker 5>and become an open heart surgeon. If they were to

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<v Speaker 5>post about it online, they would have to do it

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<v Speaker 5>in a way that's like it was just a bit

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<v Speaker 5>the joke was pulled off, and so the camera shake

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<v Speaker 5>has really become an act of rebellion for gen Z.

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<v Speaker 5>They could script out an entire video and put a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of thought into it, but the camera shake is

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<v Speaker 5>their last act of rebellion. I didn't plan to be

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<v Speaker 5>perceived online. It's kind of an accident that I'm being

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<v Speaker 5>perceived online. Whereas I think the millennial pause has more

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<v Speaker 5>to do with just the fact that millennials had snap

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<v Speaker 5>stories and Instagram Stories when they first started filming themselves onlined.

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<v Speaker 5>If anyone used any of those apps back then, there

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<v Speaker 5>was a delay and when the video would start and

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<v Speaker 5>when it would start recording audio, so you had to

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<v Speaker 5>wait a few seconds to talk or else it wouldn't

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<v Speaker 5>get your first few words.

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<v Speaker 1>An act of rebellion, she says.

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<v Speaker 4>When we did go on, we scowled, we scoffed.

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<v Speaker 1>Act of rebellion. We've got a woman shutting shutting off

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<v Speaker 1>lines on the harp breach mean American.

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<v Speaker 4>People gluing themselves to tennis poles are scrumpted to surruct

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<v Speaker 4>national events. But gen Z as a population after rebellion,

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<v Speaker 4>is to shake the camera as they participate in everything

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<v Speaker 4>that we participate in. Look, I get it. I love

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<v Speaker 4>analysis generally, but it's very unhelpful for an everyday conversation.

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<v Speaker 4>I do think it is this dissonance with not wanting

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<v Speaker 4>to be perceived as millennial, but also not wanting to

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<v Speaker 4>be perceived generally, and how at one point in time

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<v Speaker 4>people used to make fun of people who spoke to

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<v Speaker 4>the camera in selfimode. It was maybe two three four

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<v Speaker 4>years on the Internet where I was like, oh my goodness,

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<v Speaker 4>you can think you're an influencer, you think you're cool,

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<v Speaker 4>and now it's the norm to do so. So it

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<v Speaker 4>almost was I like, oh, no, I just happened to

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<v Speaker 4>be here, and I guess I'm gonna post something, but

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<v Speaker 4>like I wouldn't actually sit here, you know, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Get what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>It's casual.

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<v Speaker 4>It all is as contrived as the next unfortunately, and

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<v Speaker 4>the one thing I appreciate about the millennial Internet is

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<v Speaker 4>that everything was contrived and hypercurated with intention. You knew

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<v Speaker 4>what it was. People sat there in front of their

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<v Speaker 4>cameras with sixteen lights, a little agenda of what they

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<v Speaker 4>were going to say and why they were gonna say it,

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<v Speaker 4>and the content ate it was consistent. The thing about

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<v Speaker 4>the way that gen Z's or even this new style

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<v Speaker 4>of curating. It's relying on you and the observer to

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<v Speaker 4>think that everything is natural, that everything came by coincidence haphazardly,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's not the case. You can't keep that up.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's also why there's this big dissonance of why

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<v Speaker 4>TikTok creators don't translate in real life, because you can't

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<v Speaker 4>fake this like, oh, I'm on the contrary, I know

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<v Speaker 4>you're in the room with me currently, and you can't

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<v Speaker 4>rely on a trending sound or a quip to get

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<v Speaker 4>the conversation across. You actually have to align yourself with

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<v Speaker 4>social norms and the way that things aren't like naturally done,

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<v Speaker 4>not in this like alternate land where you can speak

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<v Speaker 4>in half sentences and memes.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like a millennial Internet is a classical painting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeap gen Z is abstract, Yes, abstract, and they're just

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<v Speaker 1>they're just in this rebellious period where you know, going

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<v Speaker 1>up and doing a well thought out video is an art.

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<v Speaker 1>As you say, let's not forget that, let's not forget it.

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<v Speaker 1>Nissance beautiful. This is flex and frooms on kit.

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<v Speaker 4>If you're a land of flex and frooms, you would

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<v Speaker 4>know that at one point we referenced TikTok every waking

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<v Speaker 4>minute I landed this, I saw there's am and it's

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<v Speaker 4>dropped off. Not for lack of trying. My TikTok screen

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<v Speaker 4>time is higher than ever. But what I'm finding is

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<v Speaker 4>that I have to keep scrolling much longer to get

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<v Speaker 4>anything that tickles the spot. It used to tickle frequently.

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<v Speaker 4>I just look at my phone in Giggle, save posts,

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<v Speaker 4>last share, and now it feels like I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>if it's because everybody knows, no, that's not true. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know if it's because the majority of content creators

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<v Speaker 4>on TikTok are trying to be famous or viral or

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<v Speaker 4>well white, and so popular content gets replicated so quickly

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<v Speaker 4>that everything starts looking and feeling same, samey, And then

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<v Speaker 4>with every derivative post, it's less good than the last

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<v Speaker 4>one I saw because it happened later. And also, you

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<v Speaker 4>can't fake the feeling of experiencing something for the first time.

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<v Speaker 4>So maybe it's just like fatigue from app use. But

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<v Speaker 4>as I was scrolling, I came across this theory that

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<v Speaker 4>might be the answer as to why TikTok and most

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<v Speaker 4>social media apps are getting shit.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, you're not crazy. My fyp has also been totally jacked.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like seeing dancing teens on it, like it doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>even know me anymore for whopage. But this creator really

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<v Speaker 3>got to the bottom of it. They're putting the squeeze

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<v Speaker 3>on us. I just like them, have seen my screen

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<v Speaker 3>time go up as I'm chasing that good old FYP.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that they did realize that they could get

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<v Speaker 3>us to be on the app longer. It's harder to

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<v Speaker 3>get the fix. Perhaps you've heard about the in shitification

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<v Speaker 3>of social media. This is the theory that these tech

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<v Speaker 3>companies have this venture capital cycle where they're in this

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<v Speaker 3>big growth phase and they don't suck at first. They

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<v Speaker 3>get you hooked, but then slowly but surely, they get

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<v Speaker 3>worse and worse. We knew TikTok would eventually take a turn.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if it's right now or if they're

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<v Speaker 3>just tweaking some stuff with the algorithm, but change is inevitable,

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<v Speaker 3>and at least for me, I think I need to

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<v Speaker 3>make the decision to divest my screen time a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we have to turn around and put the

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<v Speaker 3>squeeze back on them, let them know that if they

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<v Speaker 3>won't give up that FYP that we know they can deliver.

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<v Speaker 3>We're not going to stick around. I mean, that's obviously

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<v Speaker 3>the solution, but it's easier said than done, especially if

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<v Speaker 3>you're going through something really hard and you really need

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<v Speaker 3>that dissociation. I'm not sure what plans they really have

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<v Speaker 3>coming down the pike, but this is one small way

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<v Speaker 3>that I think we can help stave off the in shiitification.

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<v Speaker 4>When they said we're going to divest, I said, Nana,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to say thank you. They're going through tough time,

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<v Speaker 4>but I'm going to stick by them. Okay, divest. What

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<v Speaker 4>do I just think what's happening? And what I've noticed

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<v Speaker 4>is that because TikTok isn't ticking every box because it's flawed,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm able to use Instagram with a lot more joy.

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<v Speaker 4>It is a welcomed break because something about TikTok and

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<v Speaker 4>scrolling up constantly is it fatigues me. I'm like, gosh,

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<v Speaker 4>I gotta work so hard to see something interesting. Whereas

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<v Speaker 4>an Instagram story, because I'm not following anyone who's trying

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<v Speaker 4>to make engage in content on the story, the amount

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<v Speaker 4>of effort that's required for me to engage feels equal

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<v Speaker 4>to the amount of effort or the quality of content

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<v Speaker 4>I get in return. Little tap tap tap, I'm seeing

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<v Speaker 4>a little outfit. I'm seeing a little barada, seeing a

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<v Speaker 4>dog that's chill. But on TikTok, because I'm used to

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<v Speaker 4>chasing such a high, it feels like I'm laboring to

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<v Speaker 4>get even a squeeze of what came so freely before.

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<v Speaker 1>How they get you.

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<v Speaker 4>It is how they get you.

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<v Speaker 1>And you've got nick watched, you know. I just go

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<v Speaker 1>on TikTok to try and find the best little nuggets,

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<v Speaker 1>and it takes hours.

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<v Speaker 4>It does.

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<v Speaker 1>I do it once a week and just let me

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<v Speaker 1>let me tell you, I'm popp on my bussy.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a week.

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<v Speaker 1>You're good.

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<v Speaker 4>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>Flex and flex and firms FLEXI. We seem to often

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<v Speaker 1>talk about pretty privilege and other matters of being hot,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty and beautiful.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean from a lived experience, we have three interests ourselves,

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<v Speaker 4>the things we like and the things we don't like.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, it's true. He is a TikTok by a cheek

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<v Speaker 1>called Kira.

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<v Speaker 2>I think something is missing when we talk about pretty privileged,

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<v Speaker 2>and I have a theory about what it is. I

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<v Speaker 2>will be using Kimberly Finkel as an example. I think

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<v Speaker 2>we think of pretty privilege as like a linear thing,

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<v Speaker 2>but I actually think it's like multiple different categories, multi axis,

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<v Speaker 2>and one of those axises is respectability or perceived respectability,

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<v Speaker 2>and another access, probably has something to do with environment

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<v Speaker 2>and intention. What I'm saying is there's types of women

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<v Speaker 2>that specifically men find respectable and don't find respectable, and

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<v Speaker 2>that establishments and businesses find respectable and don't find respectable.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of these notions are racist. I hear blonde

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<v Speaker 2>girls on this app say when they were blonde, they

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<v Speaker 2>got way more attention, but the wrong kind of attention,

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<v Speaker 2>And I think we know that comes from like the

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<v Speaker 2>stereotype of blondes being dumb, YadA YadA. Think about the

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<v Speaker 2>girl in your life who is always in a long

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<v Speaker 2>term relationship. Do you know what I'm saying. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>it's like the mousey brunette, short brown hair, big eyes,

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<v Speaker 2>small nose, unassuming. They people feel like they are the

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<v Speaker 2>pinnacle of that intersection for whatever reason, do you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>And shade no shade to.

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<v Speaker 2>These people like they're just I think it comes very

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<v Speaker 2>natural to them, But do you kind of see what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying. When people talk about I see a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of videos of people saying pretty privileges actually working against

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<v Speaker 2>me and like they feel that it's done more harm

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<v Speaker 2>than good.

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<v Speaker 4>So from what I gather from that video, and I too,

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<v Speaker 4>is someone who says a lot of words when I

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<v Speaker 4>could say less words, I understand that that needed to

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<v Speaker 4>be thirty seconds.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>In summary, pretty privilege is not just hot person. Pretty

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<v Speaker 4>privilege is someone who can be seen as quite average,

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<v Speaker 4>but benefits from being seen as quite average because sometimes

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<v Speaker 4>being too pretty is to the detriment of the pretty person.

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<v Speaker 4>We got that same thing, yep, Okay, cool, we reckon,

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<v Speaker 4>as Brookie was pointing during that video when they started

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<v Speaker 4>rattling off some of the qualities.

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<v Speaker 1>Now see Brunette, etc. Yeah, do I think it's intellectualizing

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<v Speaker 1>something that I guess it is that deep in a way.

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<v Speaker 4>It is that deep, do you know what?

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<v Speaker 2>So?

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<v Speaker 4>I think when I have been in my really insecure phases,

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<v Speaker 4>especially we're pretty privilege has to be concerned. I always

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<v Speaker 4>have not I always, but in those situations had this

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<v Speaker 4>fear that the thing that I want is going to

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<v Speaker 4>be lost to somebody. Plain interesting because it happens in

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<v Speaker 4>some capacity. I'm like, oh, you know, you spend all

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<v Speaker 4>this time trying to be pretty, be unique, be memorable,

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<v Speaker 4>be whatever, And then you're like, oh, that was the

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<v Speaker 4>person that got what I wanted. And it's never you

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<v Speaker 4>think to yourself, it doesn't really matter what you look like.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm like, no, that it definitely is an archetype

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<v Speaker 4>of neutral, not in a bad way or a good way,

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<v Speaker 4>but neutral that is more generically appealing than rare. But

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<v Speaker 4>that's cointuitive to what you're taught to be like as

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<v Speaker 4>a person. Be memorable, be different, be unique, be whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>Turns out that's polarizing, fully, and if you were just

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<v Speaker 4>the most mousiest version of yourself, maybe you wouldn't feel

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<v Speaker 4>really exciting. Maybe you wouldn't get people complimented you every

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<v Speaker 4>day and stopping you on the street to say you're

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<v Speaker 4>so beautiful. Happens all the time. It does to me,

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<v Speaker 4>it does, but I'm still being picked in the same

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<v Speaker 4>way the neutral person is being picked interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>So really having colored hair, for example, your pinks and

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<v Speaker 1>your purples are losing out.

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<v Speaker 4>But that's if you want to be picked as well.

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<v Speaker 4>Because you know, we had this conversation a little while ago,

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<v Speaker 4>when we're talking about dating apps, and when I was

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<v Speaker 4>on Hintre in particular, I was like, I don't want

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<v Speaker 4>to be liked by everyone. It's flattering to be seen

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<v Speaker 4>as appealing to everyone, but realistically I want someone to

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<v Speaker 4>know why I'm appealing, to be like, oh no, I

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<v Speaker 4>really like her for insert these reasons here. I like

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<v Speaker 4>her mind, I like the way she looks, I like

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<v Speaker 4>what she thinks. Like this is really exciting to me.

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<v Speaker 4>As opposed to being like I can project what I

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<v Speaker 4>want onto this person, I'm viewing as neutral.

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<v Speaker 1>Totally, do you know what I mean? I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>was a very dominant kind of like growing up that

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<v Speaker 1>would get the most attention in high school and stuff

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<v Speaker 1>were kind of like blank canvases, like the ones that

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<v Speaker 1>really captured a lot of guys that I knew attention

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really talk much.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, which is odd because then you could

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<v Speaker 4>know that maybe even consciously or subconsciously and still feel

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<v Speaker 4>in your heart of hearts and your loins that to

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<v Speaker 4>be more appealing is to add more.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah you know.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's like, isn't it ironic that when we're younger,

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<v Speaker 4>I remember when I was like, maybe eighteen, I was

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<v Speaker 4>obsessed with like wearing so much foundation, eyelashes, like like

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<v Speaker 4>a spank or whatever, things that would give people the

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<v Speaker 4>illusion that I looked different. And then you get older

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<v Speaker 4>and you're like, I don't really care to deviate too

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<v Speaker 4>far from what I actually look like because it doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>actually matter. It's similar to that. It's not like you

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<v Speaker 4>grow up to want to be a blank canvas, but

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<v Speaker 4>you recognize that the additions aren't really adding or getting

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<v Speaker 4>you the result that you think it's going to get you.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, speak, do you know?

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<v Speaker 4>And it happens. I know right now, there's we're having

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<v Speaker 4>a bit of like a lip what's the opposite of

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<v Speaker 4>lip filler, a lip dissolver moment, moment where people were like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>at one point, I looked at this and I thought

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<v Speaker 4>I felt really beautiful. It felt like a good job.

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<v Speaker 4>And now I look back on the same pair of

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<v Speaker 4>lips I have and they look bul bulky or they're migrating,

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<v Speaker 4>and I didn't see it like I used to see it,

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<v Speaker 4>And now I want to get it resolved, dissolved, and

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<v Speaker 4>I want my natural lips back, or people who did

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<v Speaker 4>hectic things with their eyebrows at one point thought. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>at one point I felt really beautiful, and then I

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<v Speaker 4>had some distance from myself and were like, actually no,

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<v Speaker 4>and so maybe the concept of being a neutually appealing

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<v Speaker 4>person is not I mean, if you want the best

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<v Speaker 4>go at benefiting from pretty privilege, it's not the trend

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<v Speaker 4>cycle pretty, it's the neutral pretty, the one where people

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<v Speaker 4>can almost what's the thing I'm looking for, Like the

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<v Speaker 4>when people can kind of look at you as like

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<v Speaker 4>a blank canvas and supurien, you know, as opposed to

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<v Speaker 4>you creating such a specific vision that people are put

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<v Speaker 4>off by vision that you've created.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, this is really interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>I love learning.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, take it, Yeah, just do whatever, do whatever. But

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<v Speaker 1>the idea that additions will change what you are is

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<v Speaker 1>tricky territory because some people are just going to see

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<v Speaker 1>you for this thing that you are elementally.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, thanks to that, babe. I like this chat.

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