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Speaker 1: Podcast, Unite Our Voices, Quick heads Up.

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Speaker 2: This podcast can sometimes get a bit rough on bros

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Speaker 2: and cons. We talk about real life and we're committed

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Speaker 2: to having open conversations with no filter. Some experiences and

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get it and like before you know it,

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Speaker 1: I thought.

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Speaker 3: Of god, I've seen some of her followers message bros

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Speaker 3: and coin, let's say, when are you going to get basic?

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Speaker 2: He's got this amazing weight loss journey where she used

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Speaker 2: to weigh volumptuous.

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Speaker 1: We were walking out and I'm telling you now, my

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Speaker 1: I just I had nothing.

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Speaker 2: Lads and Death, we have finally come back with a

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Speaker 2: very very highly anticipated podcast. Finally got this one sibling

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Speaker 2: on our show that we've been trying to get on.

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Speaker 4: Give it everyone, give a round of a pause for Malik.

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Speaker 3: I shouldn't have let this guy did an introduction, Ladies,

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Speaker 3: and gentlemen to another episode of Bros and Man. You

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Speaker 3: have all been asking for a while, and my sister here,

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Speaker 3: Bessie is Uh is here with us today and it's

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Speaker 3: exciting news. We've been trying to get her for a while,

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Speaker 3: but she's a very busy lady. So we're so happy

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Speaker 3: to have you on the show. Man. This is gonna

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Speaker 3: be the first time we've actually had a young, like

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Speaker 3: a proper young, like a proper young.

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Speaker 1: With her in ages.

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Speaker 3: As you can tell, we're all we've we've all grown

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Speaker 3: up and we're all live in our own lives. But yeah, man,

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Speaker 3: just before we start, I've got a quick announcement. I've

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Speaker 3: teamed up with Oxy Shed. We're given away too for

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Speaker 3: two lucky winners. We're given away two cases of oxy Shred.

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Speaker 3: To enter, please follow the caption below. And that's the work.

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Speaker 3: So what else. We'll also got other announcements, any announcements, j.

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Speaker 2: Before we kick off, announcements announcements, mate, we are we're

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Speaker 2: happy to be alive. We can't really, we can't really complain,

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Speaker 2: like every day should be a blessed day.

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Speaker 1: Yes, praise alone, yes.

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Speaker 2: Man, you know you know what you know what's mad

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Speaker 2: there will be a lot of unraveling this podcast because

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Speaker 2: she our sister Bessie. For those that don't know, she's

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Speaker 2: got this amazing weight loss journey where she used to

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Speaker 2: weigh volumptuous.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, volumptious.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to I don't want to get a

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Speaker 2: hiding explaining.

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Speaker 1: What it was. One hundred and thirty four keyls and

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Speaker 1: centimeters were very valumptious.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is another case for very well said, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I loved this is a different case to Ron Gody

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Speaker 3: because I remember we've Ron gotty. I said one sixty

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Speaker 1: I was bigger than Ron Gody.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, and I remember when I was doing time

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Speaker 3: in jail, she started this Instagram page called Bessie for kiddo,

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Speaker 3: you're not following that page makes you click on and

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Speaker 3: pick on that page and follow. She basically shared her

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Speaker 3: journey with everyone from the start to the end. Is

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Speaker 3: that right?

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Speaker 1: I think it was more towards the middle of my journey, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and it was more to just keep a count of it.

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Speaker 1: Was like when I was starting to give up. Then

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Speaker 1: I made the social page to just keep myself counting.

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Speaker 3: Oh really yeah, there's a lot of people doing that

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Speaker 3: now she was already doing that easy, did you feel.

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Speaker 2: Like, because, bro, how many followers you got now on Instagram?

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Speaker 1: I haven't, honestly haven't. Maybe I should.

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Speaker 4: Busy busy that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but like you know, she's actually she's actually come

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Speaker 2: come from the really really bottom and like she's come

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Speaker 1: I have the best followers. I love you guys. Have

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Speaker 3: I've seen some of her followers message bros and co

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Speaker 1: They're amazing. They really got my back. I love them.

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Speaker 3: What is it that these these ladies find, like what

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Speaker 1: To Actually I don't know why they following. You know,

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Speaker 1: I just posted without a second thought. I don't sit

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Speaker 1: What's going to be relatable. It's just literally my everyday life.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, in many ways. But Bessie, it is like.

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Speaker 2: A lot of our followers that follow our social followings

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Speaker 2: think that, like me and my brother is like there's

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Speaker 2: She was the one that got up to do the

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Speaker 3: And not only that she's always been the main character,

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Speaker 1: Well, there was a few instances that made me do

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Speaker 3: Yes, and this is this is one of the proudest

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Speaker 2: And for many of our years when we were young, right,

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Speaker 2: See when you look at the girl like that, then

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Speaker 1: You know what.

435
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Speaker 2: And it kind of is because sometimes when you when

436
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 2: you I get what you mean, because when you when

437
00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 2: you know that saying, when they say you show too

438
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 2: much appreciation, then they take it for weakness.

439
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's right.

440
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 2: And like you don't want to show your hand and stuff. Well, like,

441
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,879
Speaker 2: you know what, that's interesting because I actually agree with that.

442
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,479
Speaker 2: I actually agree with that. That's the funniest thing. I

443
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 2: agree with it. But I'm not saying to go and

444
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 2: kiss the feet of every woman.

445
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not saying that. I'm just saying, be respectful.

446
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,679
Speaker 4: It's all right, it's all right to it's all right.

447
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:26,919
Speaker 2: To appreciate the value and existence of women without putting

448
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 2: down like that they're a female.

449
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 1: It's all right.

450
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 3: You know what's your thoughts on that? Yeah, we're still

451
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 3: in the spotlight.

452
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 1: I'm still stuck on Malick's f bombs. Can we bleep

453
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:41,879
Speaker 1: that out?

454
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 3: She doesn't lock my serious. She's been very religious.

455
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 2: I actually feel uncomfortable to swear. Yeah, this is I

456
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 2: feel very uncomfortable. You know what makes me feel uncomfortable?

457
00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 2: Like they were both looking at me, like, but.

458
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you know what that For those of you

459
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 3: who don't know, that's actually a big part of my personality.

460
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 3: And like a lot of times when you see me

461
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 3: on podcasts, you see me like hold back sometimes on words.

462
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 3: I was saying, because of the time, I'm best not

463
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 3: to swear. Yeah, but anyways, let's let's go back to

464
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 3: that time. You just went through something massive and now

465
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 3: you're thinking about changing your life. Why is losing weight

466
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 3: becoming an idea that's becoming a goal or target in

467
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 3: your head.

468
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker 1: Well, initially it wasn't. So the reason why I brought

469
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 1: up that story was it was actually the first incident

470
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 1: to show me that my husband was actually epileptic. And

471
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,400
Speaker 1: that was one of the first scigns. So he had

472
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,199
Speaker 1: a seizure actually, and that's how we got into a

473
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:56,439
Speaker 1: car crash. So then later on down the track, it

474
00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 1: became my weight became a problem because I could no

475
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 1: longer be a princess. So before this he was doing

476
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 1: everything for me, you know, I was a queen. But

477
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 1: once we realized he was actually suffering from epilepsy and severely.

478
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 1: I don't know anyone with epilepsy, so this was the

479
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 1: very first time experience for me.

480
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:20,919
Speaker 3: Is that a thing to have?

481
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 1: Well, it was weird for like have you do you

482
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 1: guys know? Yeah, So in that kind of point of view,

483
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 1: it was all new grounds for me. So because I

484
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,959
Speaker 1: was used to being taking care of the roles were

485
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 1: shifting and he was now needing someone to take care

486
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 1: of him. So I couldn't do that. At one point

487
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,919
Speaker 1: thirty four kilos, I couldn't keep going about what I

488
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 1: was doing. And by then our daughter, which I mentioned

489
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 1: esther was growing up and she was starting to copy

490
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 1: what I was doing, which was a lot of binge eating,

491
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 1: like I did a lot of eating without realizing and

492
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 1: that was now going to her and she started to

493
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 1: gain weight rapidly from a young age. And you know,

494
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,640
Speaker 1: one thing I say is like if your kids don't

495
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,199
Speaker 1: change you, I don't know what will. And for me

496
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:15,640
Speaker 1: and seeing my bad habits go on to her, like

497
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 1: for me, one thing like I can look bad, like

498
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,919
Speaker 1: people can go at me, have a go at meet whatever.

499
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 1: But once that transfers to my children, the steaks are different.

500
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: Now I'm taking this seriously, Now, I need to be

501
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 1: a better example. So from then, like you know, like

502
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 1: I said, I loved myself. I didn't care what size

503
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 1: I was, but the fact that I knew was impacting her.

504
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 1: It was time to make a change. It was time

505
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 1: to get stronger. It's time to get fit and stronger.

506
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,640
Speaker 1: If you know my husband, he's not light, he's not light,

507
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 1: so when he had a seizure, I needed to be

508
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:56,120
Speaker 1: strong enough to hold him. You know, he's fed, it's

509
00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 1: very well fed. So you know, that's when I looked

510
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: into you know, losing weight, getting stronger, getting fit.

511
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 5: It was never about being skinny. It was about being

512
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 5: fit and right. And I remember, I remember your husband

513
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 5: who was very hands on in the house and another

514
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 5: big reason why we welcome welcome him with open arms

515
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 5: from the start.

516
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,719
Speaker 3: You know, he was always doing a lot. He was

517
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 3: running around even like little things like my dad would

518
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:29,959
Speaker 3: need something or you know, trouble home and help us out.

519
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 3: And man, it's just shocking to hear that, Like you

520
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,360
Speaker 3: had to take that role from him, and that all

521
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 3: makes sense now, Like you know, that could be a

522
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:41,959
Speaker 3: big motivation as the way he started.

523
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 2: I can see online there's there's a lot of like

524
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 2: and it's not bad, like a lot of plus sized

525
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 2: models and the female indust like obviously being well fed

526
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 2: to now.

527
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 1: To it.

528
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 2: What is your take on, you know, obviously all these

529
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 2: industries that are pushing the plus size modeling.

530
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: Well, I think it's beautiful. Honestly, some of my fellows

531
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 1: have asked me to But for me, especially an islander,

532
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 1: we're islanders, you know, we're not. We're not like downsize

533
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 1: into one category. We come in all shapes and sizes.

534
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 3: Yes, we come in all.

535
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I love it, and I love it and

536
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: I support it, like there was a time where plus

537
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 1: models wasn't even a thing. You know, my daughter is

538
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: now growing up into a world where she can feel

539
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: beautiful in the skin. You know, I felt beautiful before

540
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 1: the plus models came, you know, but that was just

541
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: me because I was confident who I am. Now, our

542
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 1: young daughters will grow up to know that they can

543
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: be comfortable, they can love themselves. It's okay to be vlumptuous.

544
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 1: It's okay. The main point is getting fit, being healthy,

545
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 1: living long enough to see your kids grow up. From

546
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: a mother perspective, now I can catch up to my kids.

547
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: You know, there was a time where if my son

548
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: like said something back to me and he ran for

549
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: the road like goodbye. You know I couldn't catch him.

550
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: You know, you go and be disobedient. I'll catch you

551
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: next time. But now you know he wouldn't dare because

552
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 1: he knows I can catch him, you know, because I'm

553
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: fit enough. Yeah, but yeah, I support that. I support

554
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: the plus size modeling. Our sister Gusa was doing plus

555
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: size modeling as well.

556
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's your little sister.

557
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 3: What do you call it? I do remember, I think

558
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 3: I think this is very important to speak about because

559
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 3: I remember there was one time you told me because

560
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,479
Speaker 3: I got out of jail, I'm still green to all

561
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 3: of this diety and kito and everything. Anyway, she was

562
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 3: explaining the importance of fasting and one thing that she

563
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 3: told me, and I remember it, like she was saying

564
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 3: that she went through a massive faith is when she

565
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 3: was pregnant where she couldn't eat. Yes, she couldn't eat

566
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 3: throughout the whole pregnancy. Well you remember that this is actually.

567
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 1: Water.

568
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 3: This is actually I've never heard and I've heard of

569
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 3: a lot of women that go for pregnancy, I've never

570
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 3: heard of this one. Can you tell us a bit

571
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 3: more about what happened for your pregnancy when you're with

572
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 3: your eldest daughter.

573
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: I had a very rare condition called HG. So I'm

574
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: so glad you guys brought this up because it's very rare,

575
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: to the point that I never heard of it. Yeah,

576
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 1: it's it's called HAG. Look at it. It's a very

577
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: long name. So that's why I say HG. But it's

578
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: basically women who suffer during pregnancy. It's almost like our

579
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: body reacts in a way. We're allergic to the life

580
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: that's growing inside of us, Yes, and our body rejects

581
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: anything that we eat or drink, even our own saliva

582
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: was alive. But yeah, I would walk around with a

583
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: two liter cup. I remember just spit inside of it

584
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: because my body was rejecting my own saliva. Anything that

585
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: I ate or drank would come out nothing. And this

586
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: would like sometimes the lucky women sometimes they only go

587
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: through it one trimester, which is the first trimester. But

588
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: women like me, we suffer the whole nine months, and

589
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: so instead of gaining weight. You know where people go

590
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: through these glow you know, if you know the glow

591
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: where women glow when they're pregnant, I went through a

592
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: dark cloud of weight lass. You know, people gain weight

593
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: when they're pregnant, but for me, if you have HD,

594
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: you lose weight. I lost almost forty kilos every time

595
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: I was.

596
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 3: Pregnantat and one thing you told me is that you're

597
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 3: allergic to everything, so you can't eat. Yeah, and what

598
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 3: and what world is they're a pregnant woman. Yeah, that

599
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 3: goes through the whole pregnant nine months. Yes, the whole

600
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 3: nine months of pregnancy and doesn't eat at all. This

601
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 3: story was shocked. Here tell us about how you were

602
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 3: able to survive that you're not you can't eat anything.

603
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was in and out of hospital. If anything,

604
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: this is what I love about God, how he's in

605
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,959
Speaker 1: the details, because I say to myself, now, if I

606
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: hadn't been as big as I was, I don't know

607
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: what would have been feeding my child in my stomach.

608
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: So while I was losing the weight, my child was

609
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: actually growing off the weight that was on me already.

610
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: So that's how she was able to eat.

611
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 3: So she's you're telling me the baby's grabbing energy fast.

612
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, seriously, So I thought, yeah, like I felt like

613
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 1: I was dying. But every time I went for a scan,

614
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: baby was growing. How happy it is kicking fine? Yeah,

615
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: how amazing that our bodies.

616
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's crazy.

617
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 3: And it was a big reason why fasting is important.

618
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: Yes, because that showed me that if I fast, I'll

619
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: do fine, Like I'll be fine. I had this notion

620
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: in my head that and I'm pretty sure it's very common,

621
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: like you know, if you're fasting, that you're gonna lose energy,

622
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: You're gonna like you know, it's bad for you. But

623
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: for me personally, if anything, I was more focused, more driven,

624
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: and I could do tasks like I didn't lose any energy. Like.

625
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: It was a very different concept to what I thought

626
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: was normal. And that's why even today, even though I've

627
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: lost over sixty kilos, fasting is a big part of

628
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: my lifestyle now because I know that I'm okay. My

629
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: body actually thrives on fasting.

630
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 4: Yeah.

631
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you have and this is the only pregnancy

632
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 3: where you went through that, no.

633
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,719
Speaker 1: All three. Yeah, I must love my husband to go

634
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: through that.

635
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 2: Pregnancy cravings they're not cheap blood, yeah much. I know

636
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 2: from that first pregnancy, when your craves were just ice blocks, you.

637
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 4: Will be very happy. You would have been very happy.

638
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 3: And even though you're craving it, it was all coming out.

639
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 3: So whatever was going on in was coming out. Yes, definitely,

640
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 3: I can imagine that would have been lock hell. A

641
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 3: pregnancy alone is already lock hell. Yes, and then you're

642
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 3: going through that phase where you can't eat. You're just

643
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 3: eating and letting they go.

644
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 1: And imagine as soon as like I gave birth, it's

645
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 1: like a switch, I'm back to craving everything. And then

646
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: that's how I got big again, you know. So can

647
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 1: you imagine I'm starving nine months. As soon as that

648
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: switch is on, I'm eating everything I missed out on

649
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 1: on those nine months. Yeah, And that's how I got

650
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 1: big and then, which is perfectly fine, because then every

651
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 1: time I got pregnant, I would lose the weight again. Wow, couldn't. Yeah,

652
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: that was the way I could carry my children because

653
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: I had the weight to carry them.

654
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 4: You know, you know there's anything to respect. You have

655
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 4: to respect giving birth.

656
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 2: Bro I remember when I saw Mom Misses give birth

657
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 2: and like even watching her, because I think you were

658
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 2: the first.

659
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 4: Were you the first in the family?

660
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 2: Yes, And it looked like a horror movie broke Like

661
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 2: I wasn't obviously there, thank god, But just the lead

662
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 2: up to it was just it's like you were dying

663
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 2: but you weren't.

664
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 4: I didn't know what was going on.

665
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 2: And Bro, I remember when my missus was giving birth.

666
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 2: It's just it's just just so.

667
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 4: Just blood of you where there's just this screaming. It's O, bro,

668
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 4: a lot to take in.

669
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 2: And I remember like, because my missus was like, make

670
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 2: make sure like you can, you're watching so the head

671
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 2: comes out properly. And I was next to her on

672
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 2: the bed and there's a blanket ands like make sure.

673
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, no, it's all right.

674
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 4: He's coming out. He's fine. B Because when I started

675
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 4: to seeing like.

676
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 2: All the bed sheets are white and then they're just red,

677
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 2: and like you gotta you gotta respect it. Like, even

678
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 2: though men are more powerful than women, I feel like

679
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 2: in many ways women are more powerful.

680
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 4: I probably would die to do something like that.

681
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: I definitely think we're made different, and it's for good reason.

682
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 1: God made us beautifully different, and that's why when we

683
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: come together in marriage, it's a beautiful thing.

684
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 3: Yeah you know, yeah, amazing. Just to touch up on

685
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 3: that that weight loss journey, yeah, man, it's actually you

686
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 3: make it sound so easier. You just you know, you're

687
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 3: going through these phases, the car flips, she goes through

688
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,439
Speaker 3: the pregnancy. Now all of a sudden she's lost weight.

689
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 3: But how long has it been. It's been a few

690
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 3: years now.

691
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: Yes, it's been almost six years now.

692
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 3: Well, and now you're still maintaining your health and fitness.

693
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: Which is probably harder. It's harder to maintain. It took

694
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: me eleven months to lose sixty kilos naturally, and then

695
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: I feel like, now now that I've been maintaining it,

696
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 1: this journey has been way harder.

697
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's like there's no really real goal.

698
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 1: You just have to keep it now. You know, when

699
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: you're on the her health journey, everything's so disciplined, so

700
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: consistent that you think that at the finish line you

701
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 1: get to eat whatever you want now, like, but it's

702
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 1: not like that. Once you get to the finish line,

703
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: you make new goals. You know, it just keeps going,

704
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: like you make more goals, more goals. Every time you

705
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: get to the finish line. There's more goals. You know,

706
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: you don't get to just go splurge and do whatever

707
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 1: you want after that.

708
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 2: I remember watching your little Instagram vlogs when like now

709
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 2: you've got like this whole big fan base. I remember

710
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 2: watching it when then, like it was just like our family,

711
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 2: an intermediate family, but you still kept doing all those

712
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 2: vlogs in your house, like the little dumbbells and bro,

713
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 2: it's hectic to see that now it's exploded and everyone

714
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 2: is watching. But we were watching when she was still

715
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 2: like she actually used to vlog all of her stuff

716
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 2: from way way back then. But she just kept like

717
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 2: she kept getting like the courage to keep going. Was

718
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 2: there any point where like you've reached like, let's say,

719
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 2: like five thousand followers, or did you have like a

720
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 2: certain target where you're like, wow, I can't believe that

721
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:03,879
Speaker 2: I've got in this.

722
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: Far honestly, hmm. I think the first time when I

723
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 1: got to one thousand, I thought, oh, it's getting it's

724
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 1: getting serious, Like I need to watch what I oh gosh,

725
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 1: like especially like out in public, like when people when

726
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: you guys come to me and you guys say hello,

727
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 1: I'm like, I get nervous about what I'm eating. I'm like,

728
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 1: oh gosh, I don't want to I don't want to

729
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 1: be a bad example too. You know, there's a lot

730
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: of people watching me, and it does to become more

731
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,399
Speaker 1: like it starts to become heavy because you know that

732
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 1: it's not just your followers. There's also young people that

733
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: are encouraged by the journey. There's like you guys, you know,

734
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 1: there's people watching you that they're watching it every movie,

735
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: Like when you're out in public, you're always thinking about that.

736
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: You always want to put your best foot forward because

737
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: there's someone watching. There's someone who wants to be like you,

738
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 1: you know, especially our children. You know, in first case

739
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: there is it's our children. They're looking up to us.

740
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: You want to put your best foot forward always.

741
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 2: You know.

742
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 3: I think that's the most one of the most important

743
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 3: things about like being respectful in the media is that

744
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 3: our kids are eventually going to grow up and watch

745
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 3: it one day see everything. Yeah. I had nephews and

746
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 3: nieces that were telling me about our podcast, and I'm like,

747
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 3: what he is doing? Way too young to be.

748
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: My kids are such big fans of you, guys, like

749
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: tell everyone about you.

750
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 2: Do you know what did anyone ever? This is actually

751
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 2: an interesting question. So obviously we've through out a whole

752
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 2: upbringing is me and Joeys. We've like we've obviously been

753
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 2: on inside incarcerated. Your brothers have been on the news before,

754
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 2: We've been all over social media, not in the best.

755
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 4: Line at times.

756
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 2: Has this ever affected your personal I never even asked

757
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 2: you this, like with how people. Have people ever approached

758
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 2: you and said, bro, look at your brothers and like,

759
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 2: has it ever Like what was your experience like with

760
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 2: us obviously doing the wrong thing while you were like

761
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 2: in your own personal journey, how did that feel with

762
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 2: everyone around you?

763
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 1: Like for me, like you said, we grew up close

764
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 1: from the youngest age. We've always been close together. My

765
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: dad made it that way so that we don't stray.

766
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: So we've always been so connected in a way where

767
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: there was never a question about loyalty. There was never

768
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 1: a question about character, never, Like so even when you

769
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: guys were in that light and everyone was seeing you

770
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 1: guys in that light, like, there was never a time

771
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: where I thought, ah, maybe, like I don't know who they.

772
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 3: Are, I can own them.

773
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe I've had it wrong. And that's why every

774
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: time we got together there was no difference. There was

775
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: no change in the love. You know, We've always been

776
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 1: like we can get back to right where we left off,

777
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 1: you know, every single time, and like I said, that's

778
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: why I love that everyone's seeing this side of you guys,

779
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: the side that I've always known and loved, And now

780
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: I can really show the world, you know, because it

781
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: was hard for me back then when I would post

782
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: for you guys. I still posted you guys anyway, but

783
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: you know, I knew some people would be like, why

784
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:20,439
Speaker 1: is she posting them? Yeah, yeah, exactly, she goes to church,

785
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: why is she posting your brothers? They're going to prison.

786
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,879
Speaker 1: But in that way, it's because no one really saw this,

787
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: you know, this side of you guys, which is a

788
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,280
Speaker 1: side I love. You know, I love every single phase

789
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 1: we've gone through. We've done it together. You know, even

790
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 1: though I've been on my faith journey, there's never been

791
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 1: a disconnect here. You know, We've always been loyal to

792
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 1: each other always, and like even when you guys went

793
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 1: to prison, that's probably the hardest time for me, when

794
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: you guys went locked up, When you got locked up,

795
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: that was one of the hardest things for me. And

796
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,399
Speaker 1: if anything, on my health journey, it helped me get

797
00:41:56,400 --> 00:42:00,879
Speaker 1: distracted from, you know, the sadness I felt of being

798
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 1: far from you guys, you know, having to do like

799
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: if you guys have family in prison. It's a big thing.

800
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 1: Like and I know because I was the one booking

801
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: the cause staying on hold for hours, you know, and

802
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: they're not nice. The system isn't nice. Like when you

803
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 1: call them, they treat you rudely, obviously because you've got

804
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: a family member inside. So you know it's for me.

805
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 1: It breaks my heart because you need to realize the

806
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: family didn't do anything wrong, but we're being treated like

807
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 1: criminals too. On the phone when you're on hold, you know.

808
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 1: I'll be on hold and they'll be like, yeah, wa

809
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: like you know, but I'll stay on the phone. I'll

810
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: stay on the phone for one two hours because I

811
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: love my brothers, so I'll wait. I'll wait two hours.

812
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: I'm like doing everyone's around the house and I'm still waiting.

813
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 1: I can hear the music. When they come back on

814
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: the phone, they're like, oh, you're still on the phone,

815
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,879
Speaker 1: like you know, And I'll have the patience to say, oh, yes,

816
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:54,919
Speaker 1: I'm still on the phone. It's okay, take your time.

817
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: I still need to make a booking. Times were it,

818
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: I would be on hold for an hour and then

819
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: they'll just hang up and then I have to start

820
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: the process. Again, you know, because if you don't get

821
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 1: your call in, you'll miss the booking. If you know,

822
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 1: you know, like you need to get booking early because

823
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 1: a lot of families want to see their families. So

824
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 1: if you don't get the early slot, you're done and

825
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: you won't get to see your brothers for that whole week.

826
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: You know, it's a big thing for the families out.

827
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: So I want to spread love to families who have

828
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 1: family members inside. It's hard for us too, you know,

829
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: we suffer because they're not the only ones suffering inside.

830
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 1: It's us too. We don't want to loved ones to suffer, so,

831
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: like it's hard for us, especially putting money in the accounts,

832
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: Like I mean, that's not hard, it's not hard to

833
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:44,760
Speaker 1: do that. But the hard part is seeing everyone else suffer,

834
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: like our parents, my parents, especially my brother Jay. Like

835
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 1: when Malik and ron Goni went in like I was,

836
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 1: I felt like I had the responsibility to hold everyone up,

837
00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: keep the family gatherings going because it's not the same.

838
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 1: Family gatherings are not the same. Even now, while our

839
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 1: older brother's inside, it's not the same. Like Father's Day,

840
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 1: we all caught up, but it's not the same. Like

841
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 1: there's a part of us, there's a disconnect while someone's

842
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: inside in prison, and I hate that. Most people are

843
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: embarrassed to talk about it. They're embarrassed to talk about

844
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 1: their loved ones inside because you know, but they certain

845
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: they suffer in silence, silence exactly, they suffer in silence.

846
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: People think it's just the ones that are inside. It's not.

847
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: It's the family anything.

848
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 3: It's worse. I'll just say I mentioned that in my

849
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 3: second podcast about jail, and yeah, one thing that I

850
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 3: found shocking because a lot of us boys going to

851
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 3: jail and we build this persona where you know, we

852
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 3: can overcome anything. What happened was when I came out,

853
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 3: I've realized just from their facials, the emotions that their

854
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:55,399
Speaker 3: family was going through. Eventually, us as jail boys get

855
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 3: to a point where we don't care. We're able to

856
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 3: adapt to the situation, We're able to change, and if anything,

857
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 3: jail makes us stronger. A lot of us stronger. You know,

858
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 3: character was everything. But when we come out, we see

859
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 3: that everyone's broken into pieces. And it was something that

860
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 3: was hard for me to understand because I remember coming

861
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 3: out and like I'm telling everyone, like you know, that's it.

862
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 3: Everyone on the scale. Let's have fun, let's all have

863
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 3: a wall. And everyone's looking at me like but like

864
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 3: happy for you know, everyone needs to give me the

865
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 3: weird eyes, you know, because when I got out, I

866
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 3: was so confident. I was happy. Everything that I went

867
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,919
Speaker 3: through like didn't really matter in jail, and I could

868
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 3: still see that I had to pick up the pieces

869
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 3: from where I left off. Everyone was broken, shattered.

870
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 1: Almost like we're like on pause, Oh yeah, yeah, come back.

871
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,240
Speaker 3: And I've realized that they had it a lot harder

872
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 3: because they don't know what to do in jail. We

873
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 3: know what we're doing. We just gotta like we're we've

874
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 3: done the crime, we're doing the time. We got to

875
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,760
Speaker 3: get over it for the people on the outside, you guys,

876
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 3: don't You guys are in agreeing when it comes to

877
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 3: court cases, when it comes to when you're get in now,

878
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 3: a lot of times they're worried about our safety and

879
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 3: that you know, more than us. We get used to jail,

880
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:10,720
Speaker 3: we're ready to go to walk, do anything. The family

881
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 3: doesn't know much about this, and yeah, I think that's

882
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 3: very important.

883
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a big thing. Getting worried about safety wise,

884
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: whether you guys are okay? I mean it would be

885
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: easy if we didn't love you, like that would have

886
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 1: been easy. But because we loved you, like constantly anxious

887
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 1: like are they okay? Are they being fed? Well? Are

888
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 1: they cold at night?

889
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 3: You know?

890
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 1: Like Jay touched on, like I was a mother figure.

891
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: So in a way, like when my brothers did go inside,

892
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 1: I felt the responsibility like as an older sibling, how

893
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: can I protect them from out here?

894
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 2: You know?

895
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah that was a big thing.

896
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 3: And yeah, tell us about your one thing. I did

897
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 3: notice that God played a big part in, like, you know,

898
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 3: looking after you this whole way. Tell us a bit

899
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 3: more about your your journey with God from the fat

900
00:46:58,200 --> 00:46:59,240
Speaker 3: Low's journey till.

901
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 1: Now, well it was before the fat Lives journey. We

902
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: trust journey. Like when I was young, like our pastor,

903
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: our dad was a pastor, so like I said, I

904
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: was always following my dad everywhere he went. If anything,

905
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: my dad was my hero, So every time he spoke

906
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 1: about the Bible or God Jesus, I would hang on

907
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 1: to every single word everything, like so from a young age.

908
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 1: I know a lot of kids nowadays and before like

909
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 1: like you have something called an invisible friend right. So

910
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,320
Speaker 1: for me as a child, my invisible friend was Jesus,

911
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 1: you know, and I had it rough growing up. So

912
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: a lot of the times I would talk to Jesus,

913
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: even though I had never seen it before, I knew

914
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 1: he was there, Like it was something I was always

915
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 1: very confident about that Jesus was real and that he

916
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,080
Speaker 1: was there from a young age, from a very young age.

917
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: And my life hasn't been sunshine and roses growing up,

918
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: but he has remained a consistent factor in my life

919
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: always through the ups and downs. He's always been there always. Yeah.

920
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 3: Do you feel like the things that happen in your

921
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 3: life do you feel like God made that happen for

922
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 3: a reason?

923
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: Yeah?

924
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:26,439
Speaker 3: For me, from the car crash to the definite pregnancy. Yeah,

925
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 3: even your husband having what's the word obiliposy.

926
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, definitely. Yeah.

927
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 3: Do you see have you we're able to see the

928
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 3: picture that God is painted for your life?

929
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 1: Definitely, Like when you're in that moment, you don't understand it. Like,

930
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 1: if anything, if you're not strong in your faith, everything

931
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 1: will crash down, and you like everything will crash down.

932
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: But when you're strong in your faith, you know every

933
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 1: single time, no matter how hard it is. You know

934
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,280
Speaker 1: at the back of your head that this is happening

935
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 1: for a reason Romans eight, verse twenty eight. All things

936
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,839
Speaker 1: happen for the good of those who love God, and

937
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: for me like a saying that I always say, is

938
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,919
Speaker 1: everything happens for a reason. But that's the biblical verse

939
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 1: of it. All things happen for the good of those

940
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: who love God. And I love God, so I know,

941
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 1: through the good and the bad, everything is happening for

942
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 1: a reason, and it's for my good, you know. So

943
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 1: that's why I take it. I take it on, I

944
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: take on the storm, I take on the trials, and

945
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: that's why I smile and I laugh and unhappy the

946
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 1: way I am because I know that God's got me always.

947
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 3: If you are sorry, do you got a question?

948
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 2: Oh no, I was gonna just say, like she's always

949
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 2: been best, has always been the most.

950
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 4: Reliable siblings say.

951
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 2: If there's like we've got to organize meetings, conferences, or

952
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 2: someone's locked up, everyone will always get her to do

953
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 2: the bookings or they calling, and we can always rely

954
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:50,800
Speaker 2: on it.

955
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 4: We know that it's going to go through with the

956
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 4: rest of us.

957
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 3: And I'm pretty sure a lot of all in the

958
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 3: families are like similar to that. You know, everyone gets

959
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 3: the girls and everything. I was going to ask you before,

960
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 3: if he could speaking of God, if he could stand

961
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 3: in front of him and ask him anything, what would

962
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 3: it be?

963
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 1: That's a good question.

964
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,240
Speaker 3: I don't know why I asked that question. I literally

965
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 3: just came on the top of my head.

966
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: Oh, actually I do. I do have a question I

967
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 1: would ask him. I don't know if this is if

968
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: I should say it's a bit funny, but I would

969
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: actually ask him about dinosaurs. No, Like, I've got this theory.

970
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 1: I don't know if I should share this because there

971
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 1: might be other theory.

972
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 4: Don't talking about the giants? Are you gonna talk about

973
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 4: the giants?

974
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 1: I know I was gonna says, because I know dinosaurs

975
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 1: are real, But like, have you guys ever thought of like,

976
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 1: obviously we have a picture of what man thinks dinosaurs

977
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: look like, but have you guys ever thought where the

978
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: dinosaurs could talk? Have you guys ever thought that?

979
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 2: Are you saying the dinosaurs were the fallen angels?

980
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: Are you? Yeah? That's what I'm saying. I mean there's

981
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 1: many theories. I mean there's many theories, but I don't

982
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: know those are the weird things that make me think,

983
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 1: this is why I need Jesus, this is why I

984
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 1: need to because I mean, there's many theories.

985
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 3: But this is our family lead.

986
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 2: She will always say something in the family because our

987
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 2: family chat is just there's nothing going on.

988
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 3: And then she was saying, guys, I've got this theory, and.

989
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 2: Then everyone slowly comes in one by one and we

990
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 2: all say why why it's not why, and then we're

991
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:48,800
Speaker 2: all getting like extracts.

992
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 4: From the Internet.

993
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: And there's one I don't know if I mentioned in

994
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: the group chat yet, but have you ever thought about,

995
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 1: you know, how everything got destroyed in the flood and

996
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 1: the water destroyed everything. What the creatures lurking in the water?

997
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I think I believe that. I believe everything

998
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 3: that was there is still there today, especially the ones.

999
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 2: I think that's why I don't like water, because I

1000
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 2: feel like the water is just evil.

1001
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: That's crazy, that's crazy. I mean, if you're going to

1002
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 1: get baptized, you.

1003
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 4: Know what I mean.

1004
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 2: I think that's my biggest fee. When I'm in the

1005
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 2: boat and there's just water under me. You know, when

1006
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 2: you're on the beach and then the water is like nice.

1007
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 2: You can see the sand. When you start to not

1008
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 2: see the sand, I hate that. I start to panic.

1009
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 2: So when I'm in a boat and I'm looking over

1010
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 2: and you can't see the floor, it's just dark blue,

1011
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 2: I don't like that, guys. And then if it's just

1012
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 2: nighttime and the water is all black, I'll probably faint.

1013
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 4: I don't even want to be in the water.

1014
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 1: Let me take it up a notch. When God created

1015
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: the world, do you guys ever notice that in the beginning,

1016
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,359
Speaker 1: like obviously Genesis, you guys, don't take my word for it.

1017
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 1: In the beginning, there's six days that he created everything.

1018
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: It mentions that the spirit hovered over the water. This

1019
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:09,799
Speaker 1: is before creation. It hovered over the water, over the water,

1020
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:13,760
Speaker 1: which means not under the water, the water, which means

1021
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:17,879
Speaker 1: the water was there. And when he does mention water

1022
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:21,280
Speaker 1: in creation, he says that he separated the water from

1023
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: down here to up there. But I was trying to

1024
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 1: pinpoint in which day was the water created? Was this before? Damn?

1025
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:31,760
Speaker 1: That's crazy, Like, have you guys ever thought.

1026
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,720
Speaker 3: About It's crazy. He didn't make it lucky.

1027
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: Obviously, he created, But there's there's a part of the

1028
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 1: story about water that we don't know that wasn't mentioned

1029
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 1: in the Bible of the creation of the world. I'm

1030
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 1: talking about the creation.

1031
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 3: Of the world.

1032
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 1: So like the spirit the water, it was there. This

1033
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 1: is like before he said let there be light, the

1034
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 1: spirit of God hovered over the water. Have you guys

1035
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 1: ever thought about that? And then when he does mention

1036
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 1: the water, he says, he separated the water from down

1037
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,280
Speaker 1: here to the water that's above.

1038
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, so what is your It gets to be excited.

1039
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 2: Actually, I actually got a question for you because she

1040
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 2: she's obviously more knowledgeable text and a friend of mine

1041
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 2: that's an atheist asked me this question the other day,

1042
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 2: and I.

1043
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,320
Speaker 1: Just I was getting serious.

1044
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 4: I just changed the subject.

1045
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 3: This is when we get to another episode of Frozen.

1046
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:37,800
Speaker 2: He said to me, Right, we know incest is wrong.

1047
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 2: Obviously the babies come out to form something is wrong.

1048
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 2: Like that's just it just goes to show you that's

1049
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 2: not supposed to happen. Right, But then if you think

1050
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 2: that jess, Adam and Eve were the first, how else

1051
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 2: did everyone get created? Wasn't there like incest to begin with?

1052
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 2: What does the Bible say about the incests?

1053
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 1: Because obviously I was against incest.

1054
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 4: Against incests, So this is this is my question. This

1055
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 4: is my question. So then what do you mean like

1056
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 4: without even like what do you mean?

1057
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 1: Like what bring it?

1058
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 2: Because like there was only one Abrahm, there was only

1059
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 2: one Moses.

1060
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 4: Where did everyone else come from?

1061
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 3: You remember there after Adam and right, so Adam and Eve,

1062
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 3: from Adam and Eve to canaan able, Right, Yeah.

1063
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 2: So then is the Bible then saying that incest was

1064
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 2: okay because they were starting out?

1065
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: Why do we need to know?

1066
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:27,760
Speaker 4: This is the first.

1067
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 2: Time someone asked me a question that actually made me

1068
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 2: like I was gone.

1069
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 4: I was like, hmm, that's interesting.

1070
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 1: I mean there is I never thought about that. There's

1071
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:37,799
Speaker 1: a verse that talks about how there's a lot of

1072
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 1: things that happened that isn't in the Bible, right, Like

1073
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,399
Speaker 1: I said, the water, the spirit hovering over the water,

1074
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 1: and there's a reason for that. We are not made

1075
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 1: to understand anything. No, No, we are here, like the

1076
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 1: Bible is here to direct us to God and salvation

1077
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,800
Speaker 1: and that's its purpose. Like we're not here to figure

1078
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 1: everything out. We're not the smartest things, but we try

1079
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:02,839
Speaker 1: to be. We're not here to understand God. We're here

1080
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 1: to obey God and worship him. You know, that's the

1081
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Speaker 1: whole point, because once we start to know everything, guess what,

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Speaker 1: we no longer need God and say it's on purpose?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And why does that point change a person's belief

1084
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Speaker 3: is beyond me? You know, people will.

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Speaker 1: You know what it is?

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00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 3: I people like that.

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00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:30,359
Speaker 1: Though, because in actual fact, atheists and people like that

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00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 1: they want you to prove them wrong so that they

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00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 1: can find faith. So I love people like that. They

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00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 1: have these questions because it's their own in a doubts

1091
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 1: and they want you to give them reason to step

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Speaker 1: over to this side, you know.

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Speaker 3: So I'm saddened that you stop that conversation. Well did

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Speaker 3: you have an answer for it? If someone, if as

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00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 3: was to ask you why why were they able to

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Speaker 3: make kids from Adam and Eve, what would your answer be?

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Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, I would say that we

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00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 1: weren't made to understand or know everything. We're literally made

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Speaker 1: to have a relationship with God and the Bible indicates

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00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:11,840
Speaker 1: everything we need to know as humans and everything outside

1101
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 1: of that, like it's it's in the air, doesn't matter exactly,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if it doesn't get you to Heaven,

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Speaker 1: what's the point, Like, is it gonna make you go

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Speaker 1: to heaven knowing whether you can be incest is it?

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 4: Answer, it's not important.

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00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 1: Worry about the important stuff, you know.

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Speaker 2: And similarly, he actually asked me another question that may

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Speaker 2: revolvery on you. He so he loves Indian movies. Ah,

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00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 2: this bloke, so you probably brought Indian movies into our family.

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00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 4: What's your top three Indian movies?

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Speaker 1: Well, I've got one that's probably my favorite favorite, which

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00:57:47,880 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 1: is the.

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Speaker 4: There are some other honorable mentions, but.

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Speaker 1: I mean for me, that was top four. What's yours?

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Speaker 3: I mean, man, how did the Indi movies? How did

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00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 3: we find the Indie movies? Where did it come from?

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00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 3: How did it come from?

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00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 1: Still Fino's mom.

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Speaker 4: Yes, because it just became a tradition all of a sudden.

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Speaker 2: One's what everyone is calling it, Like everyone is saying

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00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 2: all these are like these sayings from the Indian views.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, where did this come from? And then there's

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00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 2: these other honorable mentions come with.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that was so many good ones. What's that actor's

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00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 1: real name that shout out to that guy? Yeah, I

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00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 1: mean he's got a real name, but I call.

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Speaker 4: Him everyone knows.

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00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:45,919
Speaker 3: Stop lying, Well, this guy is one of the most

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Speaker 3: higher highest paid actors in the world.

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00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 4: He's up there in Bollywood definitely.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he and he was up there in

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00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 3: the top ten all around the world. And that's shocking

1134
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 3: news because what what you see on a daily basis

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00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 3: is a merry movies. You never see Bollywood movies.

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Speaker 1: Like the fact that this.

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00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 3: Guy is one of one of the highest paid actors,

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00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 3: it goes to show you that they got some hectic movies.

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00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 1: Every time he cries, I don't even know what he's.

1140
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 4: Really good at being emotional.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like.

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00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 3: The way they just I've never seen these movies, but

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00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 3: he's like when I was in jail, I read a

1144
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 3: lot of books. Let me explain to you, guys. I

1145
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 3: read a lot of books, and basically I read a

1146
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 3: book on actors and movies and everything, and I went

1147
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 3: I went through this dark whole where I was studying

1148
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 3: how actors and all of these guys are making money.

1149
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:44,919
Speaker 3: Massive story behind that, you know, but there was there's

1150
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 3: actually like a lot of other countries we're trying to

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Speaker 3: compete with, you say, back then to become mainstream media.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 3: So there's a lot of hectic movies of different countries.

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Speaker 3: The Asian movies that.

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Speaker 1: What about the zombie ones? Have you guys watched zombie movie?

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Speaker 4: Bro, there's one that just came out recently, the twenty

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01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 4: eight years later.

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01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 1: I haven't watched it. Yeah, I need to watch it.

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01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 2: Yeah it's a hit or missa because I saw all

1160
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 2: the reviews. Some people love it and then some people

1161
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 2: are like, bro, this is rubbish because twenty eight weeks

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01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 2: later it's pretty big to live up to twenty eight

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01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 2: weeks later, twenty eight days later was a big hit.

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01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 4: But we love we love zombie movies.

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Speaker 3: So let me ask you this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if a zombie apocalypse happened, where are you heading

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01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 2: to first?

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01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 4: And why?

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01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 1: I'm heading to Joey's house to use him as a bait.

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Speaker 3: You know what, I wouldn't be surprised if you came

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01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 3: to my house. I feel like I feel like any

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Speaker 3: physician where like you know there's going to be like

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Speaker 3: fighting involved.

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Speaker 4: I know is going to go.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to Marleck's house like we'rerowing.

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Speaker 4: Out shop or department store?

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Speaker 2: Do you think is the most important store that you

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01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 2: everyone should think about heading to this place first if

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01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 2: there's a zombie apocalypse.

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Speaker 1: I haven't even got that you asked me this.

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Speaker 2: Two years ago, I would have been heading to the

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01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 2: bottle of Unfortunately that that was my mindset. Let me

1183
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 2: tell you something about Bunnings in Australia. Bunnings, we say,

1184
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 2: Bunnings absolutely everything everything, everything we used.

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01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 1: To make like fake guns, and then like you know,

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01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 1: play out apocalypse. You know, Bunnings is the.

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01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 4: I'm like a kidnap Bunnings and Cuns.

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01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 2: I will go with the Bunnings to get a flat

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01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 2: red screwdriver and I will fill a whole trolley up

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01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 2: and then I'll get to the front.

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01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 4: It's like, what took you?

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Speaker 1: So, what's this?

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Speaker 4: All these things? You know what this just like? Now

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01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 4: what's that former? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: We'll see.

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Speaker 2: Bunnings is like it makes every man. It brings up

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01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 2: the child out of every man. I think the same

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Speaker 2: way women love to shop clothing clothing stores.

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Speaker 1: Well, I grew up tombore As. You know, I got

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Speaker 1: six brothers, so I was basically away as well until

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01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 1: I grew up and found makeup. But yeah, that's why

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Speaker 1: I'm like my brother's like the zombie apocalypse excites me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I reckon.

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01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 2: There's like a large percentage of us boys who like

1205
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 2: sometimes people find us crazy world talk about zombieo a

1206
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 2: pocalypt But I think we're.

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Speaker 4: The ones that are ready.

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01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 2: Since we were I feel like, as soon as it

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01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 2: does hit, I'm gonna be like, brother, we shaking, come down.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I got this on control. That's why I go Jim.

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01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 1: You know, in the back of my head, I'm thinking

1212
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 1: I'm going to be able to use this technique in

1213
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Speaker 1: the apocalypse.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's funny every time I go somewhere new,

1215
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 2: I kind of like subconsciously I look at like the

1216
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:45,919
Speaker 2: nearest exit and like, look that possible weapons. But it's

1217
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 2: just weird when you go up loving zombie movies and

1218
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 2: but yeah, man, this is crazy. What a what an

1219
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 2: awesome podcast full of you know, laughter, joy, tears. I

1220
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Speaker 2: think we could have easily went on for two.

1221
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 3: Hours, but we want to do a second round.

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01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 4: We have to do a second round.

1223
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 1: With run Gardi. We need to sing song.

1224
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 4: We wanted to get her to sing today.

1225
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 2: There's a lot more things that we wanted to get

1226
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 2: out of the way, but we're getting a signal from.

1227
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 4: The boys in the back. We're getting sick of our.

1228
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 3: So thank you very much for coming on. Interesting episode man,

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01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 3: I'm mutually so happy because it's been a while since

1230
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:27,959
Speaker 3: we've had a young Maybe we should catch up soon

1231
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 3: and we'll have another podcast show for you guys.

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Speaker 1: Switch off the camera, but will continue.

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01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 3: I think for our next episode with Bessie, we're going

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01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 3: to dive a bit more deep into the Bible and

1235
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:41,440
Speaker 3: the history of the Bible, because just called me off

1236
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 3: guard and I didn't come prepared.

1237
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Speaker 1: You heard him, He's locked in our Bible study and he.

1238
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Speaker 3: Last advice for women who want to change the life

1239
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 3: around and go through and start losing weight and start becoming.

1240
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 3: Any advice that you have for these girls.

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01:03:56,280 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 1: Sorry, just start. You Just the excuses count up as

1242
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 1: well as the steps. Like if I can tell anyone anything,

1243
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 1: it's just start. If you start today, you're a day

1244
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:12,440
Speaker 1: closer to the dream body you want. Like, if you

1245
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:15,439
Speaker 1: keep leaving it off, you're just gonna keep leaving off

1246
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 1: where you're trying to be at. So just start now.

1247
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:21,440
Speaker 1: And if you've already started to keep at it. If

1248
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 1: one thing changed my whole journey, it's consistency, even if

1249
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 1: you think it's not working, even if the scale isn't moving,

1250
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 1: stay consistent, stay consistent, and.

1251
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 3: What's the what's the best diet plan? Are we going

1252
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 3: with Keto or Carnival?

1253
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:38,120
Speaker 4: Best for Keto?

1254
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 1: I mean I'm lowered to Keto, but honestly, any diet

1255
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 1: that works for you. All the diets work. I've tried

1256
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 1: them all for you, guys. They all work. The point is,

1257
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 1: like I said, consistency, what works for you, what you

1258
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 1: will do long term?

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01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:54,439
Speaker 4: Ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: Will sing my free margoon. I'll pull that cuff and

1261
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 1: lose myself.

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01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 3: I don't want to do nobody else.

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01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 4: I used to have no end in signing belt it.

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01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:10,439
Speaker 1: I'm going losing my hair