1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: And joining me in the studio right now is Northern 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: Territory Police Commander for the Darwin Region, Danny Bacon. Good 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: morning to you morning Katy. Lovely to have you in 4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: the studio. We always appreciate your time. Now. Firstly, can 5 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: I ask how did things go over the weekend with 6 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: Base in the Grass. 7 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 2: Base of the Grass went swimmingly well. It was a 8 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 2: really really well planned event. Certainly, the patrons at tend 9 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 2: of the event by and large were great, which even 10 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 2: flowed through into the CBD after the event itself, so 11 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 2: very limited in regards to the issues there. I think 12 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 2: security and police assisted removingbot one hundred and ten people 13 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 2: from the event through various behaviors or jumping the fence. 14 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 2: There was only five apprehensions throughout the night, two of 15 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 2: those at the event itself, three in the CBD later on. Disappointingly, 16 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 2: although we put out there that were sending the drug 17 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 2: dogs down there, we had a number of drug and 18 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 2: fringement notices issued, seven in total, cocaine, cannabis, MDA, kid 19 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 2: of Mine. So people just aren't getting that message that 20 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 2: you don't take drugs. 21 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, and it's so hard, isn't it? Because you 22 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: think to yourself, like the organizers, they do a phenomenal 23 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: job in terms of putting on a massive event, and 24 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: you think, nearly sixteen thousand people there, But then, like 25 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: you've said, still seventy. So seventy people done for drug 26 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: offenses seven seven Sorry, oh goodness me, I was thinking, gee, 27 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: that's still a pretty large number. Seven. That's much better 28 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: than what I initially thought it is. 29 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 2: But when you consider that we the organizers and certainly 30 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 2: police are putting out there that will have our drug 31 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 2: detection dogs there and will be screening, you know, it's 32 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 2: a bit disappointed that people still choose to attend the events. Yea, 33 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 2: with those. 34 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: Substances and so various different substances obviously they've rocked up with, 35 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: but by and large the majority have done the right thing. 36 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 2: Majority of they've done the right thing. So I'm hoping 37 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 2: that that really extends itself this weekend set it with 38 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 2: the Ice House concert coming up as well, and said 39 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: that we've also got the football then a rodeo on 40 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 2: this weekend as well, So those number of events coming up, 41 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 2: so we'll continue and work with those organized as well 42 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 2: to make sure that those events are safe for those attendees. 43 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: Now, one of the issues that you know that we 44 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: hear a lot about on the show is some of 45 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: the issues that we've got with crime when you talk 46 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: about those residential break ins and also commercial properties being 47 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: broken into. I know the latest crime stats have shown 48 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,519 Speaker 1: that certainly for the Darwin region, the house break ins 49 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: rose by fifty three percent, commercial break ins are up 50 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: seventy six percent, motor vehicle theft thirty five percent. Commander, 51 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: what's being done in this space to try and really 52 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: minimize the impact that we're seeing around Darwin right now? 53 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 2: Good, good question, Katy, and certainly Darwen, and when I 54 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:57,519 Speaker 2: say dar and certainly incorporate Parmeersan and the Litchfield all up. 55 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 2: They taking account thirty percent of property of crime over 56 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 2: the last twelve months, which isn't I suppose for the 57 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 2: listeners themselves here and now is what they're feeling. But 58 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 2: it's certainly been an overall decreasing trend over the last 59 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 2: decade in regards to property crime itself. As said, doesn't 60 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 2: help the victims today, explaining that the housebreakings are quite high, 61 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 2: so it's commercial. A lot of those crime types are 62 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 2: certainly committed by some of our adult itinerants in town 63 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 2: looking for alcohol. That's predominantly your commercial breaks, and what 64 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 2: we're looking at regarding trends for our residential breaks are 65 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 2: used and use looking for a wide variety of products 66 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 2: from alcohol to the easy stuff that they can sell cash, 67 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 2: but also looking pure once at me, just to steal 68 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 2: a motor vehicle as well. So we're working with a 69 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 2: lot of number of stakeholders. It isn't just a police problem, 70 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 2: so we're working with a number of different agencies to 71 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 2: address the offending themselves. So I have a look at 72 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 2: why some of these patterns are occurring without our large 73 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 2: itinerants and certainly with our youth offending as well. 74 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it does seem a lot. That's what I 75 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: guess been hearing as well from our listeners is that 76 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: we have got this issue on one hand where we've 77 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: got a lot of people in town at the moment, 78 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: where it seems like we've got a lot of people 79 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 1: in town at the moment, and some of those people 80 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: and it's not all, but some of those people are 81 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 1: certainly behaving in a way that you know that is 82 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 1: not acceptable, eye breaking into businesses, into homes, and even 83 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: the domestic violence or the violence that you're seeing on 84 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: the streets to do you know if we've had any 85 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: change when it comes to the numbers of the people 86 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: that are here right now. 87 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 2: Certainly, I know the amount of three thousand people rough 88 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 2: sleeping has provided several weeks ago from I suppose any 89 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 2: daily information from the ground, that probably fluctuates between two 90 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 2: and a half to three thousand currently, and the numbers 91 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 2: still are quite high for a wide variety of reasons. 92 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 2: Certainly the last week returned to country of people returned 93 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 2: to country over the last week period, so there is 94 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 2: ongoing activity and engaging these people that are rough sleeping. 95 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 2: Some of them aren't rough sleeping of their own accord, 96 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 2: and some of them are there through a situation that's 97 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 2: not their own bringing, so to speak. So there's a 98 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 2: range of reasons why people are rough sleeping, So it's 99 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 2: about engaging them, finding out what the issues are underlying 100 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 2: issues are and addressing those. 101 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: And I did note on Friday as well, a press 102 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,799 Speaker 1: release had come out from the Northern Territory Police about 103 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: some of the patrols that were happening around East Point. 104 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 1: I think there was some in perap and a few 105 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: other areas as well where there was alcohol being tipped out, 106 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 1: quite a large amount of alcohol that had been tipped out. 107 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, a police are working, he said, with a range 108 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 2: of service providers here Alarika Nation City of the Parmesan 109 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 2: Town Council and the Dale City Council. We've now set 110 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 2: up I suppose two ASB teams, one predominantly operating from 111 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 2: Palmerston with stakeholders and the Parmesan Lichfield REA and we're 112 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 2: moving our ASP resources from Dalna, Caherina into Nightcliff Police 113 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 2: station and they'll be coordinated through that particular point there. 114 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 2: So you're seeing a lot more activity in the ASP space, 115 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 2: but not just by police but other agencies that sort 116 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 2: of operate in that area from there, so you will 117 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 2: see a lot more pressure releases there of those activities. 118 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: So two teams, one out in Palmerston and Litchfield and 119 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: where is the other one. 120 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 2: Well, the one in Parlison will be sort of looking 121 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 2: at ASP activity in Parmisen and Litchfield, China, and the 122 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 2: one in Nightcliff will be concentrating on darn and Caherina. 123 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 2: So that's just combining resources so it can consolidate there 124 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 2: and work with our stakeholders a bit more coordinated, so 125 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 2: we can actually look at some of those hot spots 126 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 2: from there. 127 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 1: Sounds like it's going to be I mean to me, 128 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: that sounds like a good thing, because it is something 129 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: that's been a real concern over recent weeks. And I 130 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: don't know why there's been such an influx of people, 131 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 1: but it does seem to be having an impact in 132 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: a lot of different ways. 133 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 2: You normally get an influx in DAR anyway, on some 134 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 2: of the largest centers generally do. There's a wide variety 135 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 2: of reasons why people choose to come in here or 136 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 2: are unable to get back home as well. So I know, 137 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 2: certainly the situation at what I has contributed as well, 138 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 2: and certainly what I residents are featuring largely amongst those 139 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 2: rough sleeping currently within DAR on itself. 140 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: So now, Danny, I want to ask as well about 141 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: obviously you spoke then or you touched on through the 142 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: crime stats as well. You touched on the issues that 143 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: we're seeing with some of the adult itinerants around town, 144 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: but you also touched on what we're seeing with some 145 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: of the property crime as well, when it comes to 146 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: homes being broken into and vehicle stolen with some youth offenders. 147 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: I know that Stripeforce Strident had done a lot last 148 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: week had they in this space, and trif. 149 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 2: Trident is a it's a task force that's basically going 150 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 2: to be here forever for us because properly crime unfortunately, 151 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 2: we'll feature on our landscape for quite some time. At 152 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 2: the moment, they continue to have a good result in 153 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 2: regards to completion rates, and we even look at some 154 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 2: of our statistics of motive ecle theft itself. Whilst Dalin's 155 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 2: up thirty six percent, that's the second lowest rate in 156 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 2: ten years. And you know Parmesan likewise it's up thirty 157 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 2: four percent about motivehicle theft, but again that's the lowest 158 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 2: rate in ten years, which is so they are having 159 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 2: some good successes from there in regards to like for example, 160 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 2: over the week, and we had eight unawful entries itself 161 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 2: over the week in the last three days from Friday. 162 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 2: Three of those eight residences that were unlawful entered were 163 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 2: through an unlocked door. So there's a lot of work 164 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 2: that people can also do to assist themselves in that 165 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 2: regards as well. But I'm very proud of the work 166 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 2: that tried and do. They're very agile. They certainly get 167 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,839 Speaker 2: on top of the offenders in a quick and certainly 168 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 2: can identify those trends. 169 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 1: Now Commander, when you look at those crime statistics, for example, 170 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: because I know they are a snapshot obviously, and it's 171 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: pretty easy for all of us to look at it 172 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: and go, all right, well, this certain area is up 173 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: fifty percent, I suppose For me, it's more about listening 174 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 1: to people who we speak to each and every day 175 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: about the issues that they're seeing around the place, like 176 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: how heavily do those crime statistics play a part in 177 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: the way that you deploy or the way in which 178 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: you know you make sure that your resources are being utilized, 179 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: because while they are, you know, a good resource for 180 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: us to look at, I would imagine they're quite retrospective 181 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: and what's happening on the ground is probably quite different 182 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 1: to what you know, what you sort of look at 183 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 1: with the crime stats. 184 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 2: Crime stats generally speaking take about two three months to settle, 185 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 2: just in regards to the reporting and confirmation of those 186 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 2: particular crime stats themselves. As so the crime stats are 187 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 2: reporting on today is two months old, in that regards 188 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 2: to the data have been settled. So yes, we do 189 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 2: meet regularly in Tech Coordination Group meetings regarding what's occurred 190 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 2: over the last twenty four hours and what do we 191 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 2: need to put in place over the next twenty four hours, 192 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 2: and then we do that on a weekly basis as 193 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 2: well to try and target what crime tripes are trending. 194 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter how many times you've been a victim 195 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 2: of crime, or if you've never been a victim of crime, 196 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 2: but if once you are one, the whole world is 197 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 2: collapsing on you, so to speak, it isn't nice feeling. 198 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 2: So and when you get a number of those, it's 199 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,079 Speaker 2: just that perception and reality of fear that you have. 200 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 2: So so what we try to do is try to 201 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 2: resolve matters as quick as we can. And that's why 202 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 2: I sort of tried and is there for that quick 203 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,079 Speaker 2: resolution phase in that bregion. And that's also why we've 204 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 2: kicked off Strike Force Lear as well, so we can 205 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 2: do that in the domestic violence based at the same. 206 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: Time, well, it sounds like it's always a busy time 207 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: for you guys. Just very quickly though, before I let 208 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: you go, we understand that there was another fatality over 209 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: the weekend on our roads. Another motorcycle crash, this time 210 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: in Central Australia. 211 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 2: Yes, tragic circumstance and as I said, you know it 212 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 2: was National Road Safety Week and the Northern Territory had 213 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 2: three fatalities. It is very significant out of the twenty 214 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 2: one fatalities that we've had this year to date in 215 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 2: comparison that was ten last year. It's a tragedy on 216 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 2: a number of different levels for the individuals and their families, 217 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 2: obviously the broader community. And when you look at all 218 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 2: these fatalities, by and large, most of these are preventable. 219 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 2: They really are. So we need to do a lot 220 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 2: more work, but also the community and individuals need to 221 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 2: do a lot more work in that space. I think 222 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,319 Speaker 2: one day alone during that week we issued two hundred 223 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:42,559 Speaker 2: infringement notices for various different offending against the Traffic Act. 224 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 2: So we're also looking at how we can improve that 225 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 2: within our own technology space and apprehending, so you know, 226 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 2: investing in our automatic number plate recognition technology and putting 227 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 2: that within our traffic fleet as well, increasing our speed 228 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 2: cameras and those sorts of technology as well. But very 229 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 2: tragic results, it really are. So you'll see a lot 230 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 2: more of police activity out on the roads trying to 231 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 2: you know, I suppose enforced traffic. We don't want to 232 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 2: issue tickets, we really don't. We just want to save 233 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 2: lives because it is a tragedy, it really is. And 234 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 2: as I said, we have twenty one this year to 235 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 2: date already. 236 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: It's terrible. Well, Commander Danny Bacon, the commander of Darwin 237 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: and Road Policing, We always appreciate your time. Thank you 238 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:25,959 Speaker 1: very much for coming into the studio this morning. 239 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 2: Katie, thank you, thank you.