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Speaker 1: After and everyone will welcome to you the pod show

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Speaker 1: upwards the Ding of Death.

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Speaker 2: That is what we've named today's show for a pretty

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Speaker 2: small moment in the show.

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Speaker 3: I don't know why we need to go back over this.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, I just think people see the title.

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Speaker 2: We have to somehow engage with the title. There's a

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Speaker 2: moment in the show where we bring up a ding

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Speaker 2: of death. I'll leave the mystery of Mysteries for that

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Speaker 2: to pop up for you, and you'll go, oh, there's

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Speaker 2: the name.

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Speaker 1: Of the Okay, we are playing that. I don't understand,

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Speaker 1: Like I feel like we often trim out things from

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Speaker 1: the podcast if it's your and I saying things that

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Speaker 1: the producers aren't necessarily happy with. For example, I noted

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Speaker 1: the other day that they took out a whole bunch

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Speaker 3: For me saying that I hated Valentine's Day?

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Speaker 1: Did they really Yeah, because at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: your relationship is going to end.

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Speaker 2: Did they really take that down?

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Speaker 4: Wow?

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Speaker 2: Editos, now you took it out of the live show. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: oh you did it? Don't We might have? Just like,

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Speaker 2: you know, two, maybe I was listening to it.

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Speaker 1: That's actually quite a good bit That's one of my

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Speaker 1: favorite philosophies.

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Speaker 3: In life.

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Speaker 1: Everything comes to it end, So I appreciate what you've

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Speaker 1: got right now. I think you did it because you're

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Speaker 1: a bunch of pussies, if I'm being honest.

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Speaker 3: They're obviously worried.

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Speaker 1: About the fact that people might come to terms with

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Speaker 1: the fact that they're going to die. Their partner's going

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Speaker 1: to die, all their relationship will end, and hence they

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Speaker 1: should enjoy it while it lasts.

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Speaker 5: Not too big a pussy to hit the ding though,

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Speaker 5: which happened in this show. And when you hear that

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Speaker 5: ding of death, Yeah, there we go.

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Speaker 6: Said something wrong.

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Speaker 2: There's a mystery, Joel, and you just walked all over that.

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Speaker 3: I think someone said something wrong.

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Speaker 1: I think someone's just working two jobs at the moment

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Speaker 1: and you know, has to anchor the show.

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Speaker 6: What was the thing they said wrong?

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Speaker 1: Oh no, you brought it back like if I just

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Speaker 1: had to press a button as my job with which

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Speaker 1: released a ding, I do it with pretty good accuracy.

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Speaker 5: Are you somehow implying that my job is that of

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Speaker 5: like George Jetson, who has one job to press a

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Speaker 5: single button?

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Speaker 3: Is that what he does?

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Speaker 6: That's what it's his job?

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Speaker 3: I'm going to call you George from now on.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's actually not bad. That's actually not bad. I

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Speaker 2: don't mind that. George George on the button, one button, George.

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Speaker 6: George, George George on the buttons.

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Speaker 2: That can be a little thing when we throw yet.

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Speaker 3: And I'm gonna call it Woody l Roy because he's

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Speaker 3: your boy.

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Speaker 2: I'm Joel's boy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's his name.

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Speaker 6: And Will's the psychotic robot made.

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Speaker 3: Meet George Jetson. Jane his wife. Here's boy el Roy. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you're l Roy.

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Speaker 2: What's that? What's that Roy all about? I never watched

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Speaker 2: the Jetsons.

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Speaker 6: He plays basketball. Cool, it's pretty cool.

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Speaker 2: Cool, pretty standard kid, pretty standard kids.

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Speaker 6: Actually, he's more like the dog astro, Isn't he tell

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Speaker 6: me more about.

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Speaker 3: The dog end of the show to be?

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Speaker 1: I mean we can, we can quiz show more about

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Speaker 1: his knowledge of the Jetsons, but if that might be

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Speaker 1: an unrecordable chat, can go on.

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Speaker 2: I'm we're talking about edits. You'll never hear this.

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Speaker 7: This is the Will and Woody podcast.

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Speaker 1: Joe. Let's talk about the biggest story today. All the

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Speaker 1: beaches have been closed, from Bondai to Crinal. It's pretty

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Speaker 1: much every Beach Inner City Beach associated with Sydney, after

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Speaker 1: the remains of a diver, a guy who's since died

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Speaker 1: from a shark attack they can't find. They're looking for

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Speaker 1: human remains, which just gives you an idea of how

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Speaker 1: hectic this thing is.

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Speaker 3: There is. I'm sure lots of.

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Speaker 1: You have seen the video that's been shooting around WhatsApp groups.

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Speaker 1: We've decided not to play the audio just out of

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Speaker 1: respect for anyone that might know the bloke. It really

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Speaker 1: was one of the most traumatizing videos I've seen in

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Speaker 1: a really long time. It's totally wild that something like

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Speaker 1: that can happen, but that's also a risk I believe

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Speaker 1: into the ocean. You are going in there with apex predators.

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Speaker 1: And to talk a little bit more about this shark attack,

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Speaker 1: we've got Riley Elliott who joins us. He's got a

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Speaker 1: PhD Marine biology. You would have seen him on the

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Speaker 1: Discovery Channel during Shark Weake. Riley, Welcome to Will and Woody.

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Speaker 3: Mate.

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Speaker 1: Can you I know you've seen the footage today, Can

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Speaker 1: you talk us through what you actually think happened and

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Speaker 1: maybe even why you think it might have happened. It's

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Speaker 1: the first fatal shark attack in Sydney since nineteen sixty three.

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Speaker 4: Keep in mind, yeah, good ass And then gentlemen, look firstly,

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Speaker 4: super tragic. I mean, no one wants to see this.

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Speaker 4: I'm a I'm a surfer, I'm a diver. I got

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Speaker 4: into studying sharks because, to be frankly, most people you're

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Speaker 4: they don't show it and you know, towards us very often,

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Speaker 4: but when it does happen, it's it's rare, but it's

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Speaker 4: no less tragic. And you know, thought's go out to

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Speaker 4: the family, you know, the people and the rocks who

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Speaker 4: witnessed the horrific thing, which will traumatize them. I guarantee

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Speaker 2: No doubt.

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Speaker 4: But I think what's really important is that people understand

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Speaker 4: is you quite well explained the context of it. You know,

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Speaker 4: like it shouldn't shy people away from enjoying the ocean

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Speaker 4: because you know, I'm a key with your assie. We

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Speaker 4: live in the sea, we love it, and I think

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Speaker 4: that people need to put in context. We don't stop

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Speaker 4: driving cars because of her tragedies there. And this isn't

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Speaker 4: diminish you know what the families and people in that

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Speaker 4: some time. But the reason why these things happen is,

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Speaker 4: as he accurately pointed out, because we venture into APEX

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Speaker 4: this person seemed like they swam every day in this area.

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Speaker 3: Having an action.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. And most of the time, in fact, ninety eight

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Speaker 4: That is usually a compromised animal. But you know, at

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Speaker 1: You're preacher to the you're pressure of the choir here,

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Speaker 1: what do I lived in Perth when the whole shark

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Speaker 1: It was like just the most ridiculous thing you've ever

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Speaker 1: that's the only thing you're doing there. So look, I

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Speaker 1: to talk more with Riley elied Up next. Riley, don't

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Speaker 3: He's a surfer, a diver who's got a PhD in

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Speaker 1: And the question I think we all want to know

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Speaker 3: That'll be a helpful question.

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Speaker 1: Will The biggest story of the day is the fact

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Speaker 3: Tragically fatal shark attack today.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of you would have seen the

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Speaker 1: that's how graphic that video is. But we're all about

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Speaker 1: I are both of the view that if you're in

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure this bloke, whoever he was, would have

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Speaker 1: He's a surfer, a diver, a shark x but he's

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Speaker 3: You'll see him on OCWAK on the Discovery Channel.

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Speaker 2: Woods and Roll. You were just saying during the song,

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Speaker 2: Mate that you had a morning dip with some sharks.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you know, part of my occupation but of

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Speaker 4: take away the demonization that they're just going to eat you,

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Speaker 4: and these kind of events really make it sometimes hard

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Speaker 4: to digest that you can do that. But you know,

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Speaker 4: I'm in clear water, I'm underwater with a mask on,

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Speaker 4: body language, eye contact, all these things, Whereas when I

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Speaker 4: go surfing, I relinquish all of my golden rules of

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Speaker 4: I can't see anything, and you're you're ultimately allowing the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I love this.

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Speaker 1: I love this chat because this is because for me,

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Speaker 1: so like earlier today, Raley, this video flies around a

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Speaker 1: If you want to go and follow Riley on Instagram,

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Speaker 1: Riley honestly eye opening chat with you, mate, and I

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Speaker 3: Be afraid, I think is a really great undertone.

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Speaker 2: He's also a very good looking rooster if you go

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Speaker 1: Will and Woody in the wake of that shark attack

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Speaker 3: But the way through is certainly education.

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Speaker 2: Having now is will and would. Right now, we're about

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Speaker 2: He was left with a measly forty dollars Wow, because

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Speaker 2: Yeah it is. It's a lot of yelling. But I

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Speaker 3: What you reckon? Your mum would yell at your dad

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Speaker 2: Year, easily easily. If my mum and dad did that challenge, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: That's what happened with their relationships. So I want to

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Speaker 2: which is exciting. He's going to hate this plan. Go

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Speaker 2: say hello, hey Dad, how you going. It's Woody?

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Speaker 2: Very very good? I've got Will here as well, Steve.

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Speaker 8: I will have a game, mate.

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Speaker 3: Good good, We're good mate. We're look, yeah, we're we're

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Speaker 2: Oh great, Dad, I want you. I've got a challenge

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Speaker 8: Lot yell bullies. Bullies would be a bit of a word.

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Speaker 2: That's an aggressive word, but I like it. Okay, yes,

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Speaker 2: I agree. So look what I'd like to do right now, Dad,

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Speaker 4: I might have bought a second fish.

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Speaker 2: No, yes, Dad had a three. He bought a fire.

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Speaker 3: He god alive. How does that make you feel steep?

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Speaker 3: To really put an end date on things?

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Speaker 2: Hasn't it.

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Speaker 8: So quickly I can get her? How long have I

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm a little bit dubious about all this thing.

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Speaker 1: What he seems to think that you would get yelled

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yelling? She's sort of protected her voice from damage,

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Speaker 1: I would be very impressed, because I know, you know

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Speaker 3: I would be very impressed.

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Speaker 1: If you can get angry at you in thirty seconds.

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Speaker 8: That would be thirty seconds, Okay, a real task. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 8: So I'm going to think of something that's going to

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Speaker 2: Does one song sound right?

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Speaker 9: That's true?

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Speaker 8: Okay? Radio? All right, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, we're going to go to a song here on

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Speaker 2: Will and Woody. Right up. Next, we're going to have

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Speaker 2: get Mum to yell at him. This is a thankless task, Dad,

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Speaker 2: But Australia thanks you.

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Speaker 1: You're a soldier, You're a souldiers.

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Speaker 3: Woods. I'm anxious.

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Speaker 2: Everyone's anxious. I'm anxious. I think my dad is definitely

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Speaker 2: you as you put so much. I'm giving you the challenge.

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Speaker 2: I'm laying down the gauntlet to see how quickly you

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Speaker 8: Okay, right.

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Speaker 2: To give some context as to what you're going to

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Speaker 2: lot of money. Yep, all right, Dad, don't, don't, don't.

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Speaker 1: How long do we think this is going to take?

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Speaker 1: I mean I'm at thirty seconds and then we get out.

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Speaker 2: I reckon thirty seconds, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 8: Okay, ten seconds.

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Speaker 3: Do you work about transitions?

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Speaker 2: It's dollar like that.

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Speaker 3: Jesus, that is a bad idea.

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Speaker 1: Shall be at work, work.

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Speaker 8: was just on the phone. I just had a phone

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Speaker 8: call from from from see it and you know the

443
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Speaker 8: job that I you know, I mentioned to you about

444
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Speaker 8: the engine mountains and all that. Apparently it's you know,

445
00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,760
Speaker 8: it's serious and it's going to cost and I've given

446
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Speaker 8: me okay to do it fifteen thousand dollars, which is

447
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Speaker 8: even more than the car's worth. And it really seems

448
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Speaker 8: like a very sensible decision.

449
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Speaker 4: I have to die. Great decision.

450
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Speaker 2: Well done, mom, Mom's a joke. Mom, Mom, it's a joke. Mom, Mom,

451
00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:57,640
Speaker 2: it's willing. It'swooty. Mom. Mom there you there.

452
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Speaker 8: Mum, Wow that is good.

453
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Speaker 2: Oh gosh, jeezhng no Um, I'm so sorry.

454
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Speaker 8: Thanks for making The.

455
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Speaker 1: Really amazing thing in that story was that you did

456
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Speaker 1: actually buy a feet like a small sports car for

457
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,760
Speaker 1: yourself and it actually already needs engine work Like that

458
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Speaker 1: wasn't a lie.

459
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Speaker 8: That's a true story.

460
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Speaker 2: I didn't I didn't realize there was truth to this, Dad,

461
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Speaker 2: you should have told you that. I didn't realize it

462
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Speaker 2: was an existing nerve.

463
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Speaker 8: It's not going to cost fifteen thousands up the edge.

464
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Speaker 2: Yeah no, no, I know. No, Well Dad, way to

465
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Speaker 2: put your body on the line. Wait to put your

466
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Speaker 2: afternoon on the line. Just seve much appreciated and you've

467
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Speaker 2: got to spare kid in my place, So make your

468
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Speaker 2: way over if you need to.

469
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Speaker 3: Hey, you guys, that mate, thank you so much.

470
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Speaker 8: I wish we were Yeah.

471
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Speaker 3: Will and Woody Woods.

472
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Speaker 1: I am just so excited about the bloke that we

473
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Speaker 1: have got with us right now.

474
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Speaker 3: Picture this a cave dive in and neath.

475
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Speaker 2: The tist is tasked with saving twelve soccer players.

476
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Speaker 3: And their coach stranding in a cave underwater, hundreds of

477
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Speaker 3: meters below sea level.

478
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Speaker 10: It sounds like a movie, and it will be.

479
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 3: A movie soon. But let's not forget it really happened.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the show.

481
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Speaker 9: The only guy your anny. If you're in a tame

482
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Speaker 9: spot stop with twelve of your mates and you're underwater,

483
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Speaker 9: it's doctor Richard Harris.

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Speaker 1: Yes, mates, welcome doctor Richard Harris. By Harry, I know

485
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Speaker 1: that's how you preferred to be call mate. It's such

486
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Speaker 1: a pleasure to have you on the show.

487
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Speaker 3: It's nice to be on that.

488
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Speaker 10: Lady sounded a bit excited.

489
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Speaker 3: Yeah, she's pumped.

490
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Speaker 1: We're all pumped because we've all been talking about this

491
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Speaker 1: doco on Disney, which if you haven't seen it, Rescue

492
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Speaker 1: on Disney, just go and watch it.

493
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Speaker 3: Honestly, it'll be the.

494
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Speaker 1: Best thing you watch in such a long time, because

495
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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it is a beautiful outcome.

496
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Speaker 3: We know that.

497
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Speaker 1: For anybody that hasn't seen the doco, I'm going to

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Speaker 1: play a little bit of audio here. Can you just

499
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Speaker 1: have listen to the audio, and then if you can,

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Speaker 1: for me, just sum up just how dicey this situation

501
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Speaker 1: actually was.

502
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Speaker 7: It was instantaneous, a pungent smell. We both assumed we

503
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Speaker 7: were smelling decomposing bodies, and then suddenly I saw a

504
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 7: light flash. On the audio, there's me saying, believe believe

505
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Speaker 7: that was me trying to tell me this is real.

506
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Speaker 7: Believe this is actually happening.

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Speaker 2: You look back at.

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Speaker 10: This story and a Hollywood script could not have been

509
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Speaker 10: written to play out the drama any better. You know,

510
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 10: every twisting turn, you know, literally and metaphorically in the

511
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Speaker 10: cave was designed for ten and drama, and that's exactly

512
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Speaker 10: what it was like as it unfolded each day. No

513
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Speaker 10: one knew or had any hope really about how to

514
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Speaker 10: get these children out of the cave and finding the boys.

515
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Speaker 10: As you just heard in that audio with John Valanthon

516
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Speaker 10: speaking there, you know that was only it was less

517
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Speaker 10: than half the problem solved. We assume they were going

518
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Speaker 10: to find bodies. But when they found those boys alive,

519
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 10: everyone just went, well, what now, how on earth do

520
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Speaker 10: we get them out?

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Speaker 1: The funny thing is that, as he said at the

522
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Speaker 1: end of that audio there he leaves and he's like, well,

523
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Speaker 1: that might be the last time I've seen them because

524
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to be able to get them out

525
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Speaker 1: of here. Then the only other person on the planet

526
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Speaker 1: he knows who isn't an ethetist.

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Speaker 3: You have a select set of skills.

528
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure if you've seen the movie Taken, but

529
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 1: you're a little bit like Liam Neeson in that life.

530
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Speaker 1: So he contacts you and says, and this is a

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Speaker 1: brilliant part of the docco and he says, theoretically, how

532
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Speaker 1: would I go if I wanted to anesthetize a child

533
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Speaker 1: and then drag.

534
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Speaker 3: Them underwater for kilometers.

535
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Speaker 10: So my response to that was just forget about it.

536
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Speaker 10: Crazy you never come up with then there's no way

537
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Speaker 10: in this world that I would embark on that. But

538
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Speaker 10: I will come over and you come and look after

539
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Speaker 10: the boys a bit while you come up with a

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Speaker 10: better idea.

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Speaker 2: So you've agreed, I'll come and look after the boys.

542
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Speaker 2: But this idea is ridiculous. How did you then take

543
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Speaker 2: the steps to go, oh, okay, let's do this.

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Speaker 10: It took me a while once I was on site

545
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Speaker 10: to realize that actually there was no other way, and

546
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Speaker 10: even the idea of anesthetizing and which I still believed

547
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Speaker 10: would not work, at the end of the day, it

548
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Speaker 10: was better than leaving them to perish in the cave,

549
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Speaker 10: which would take weeks. You know, they would die of

550
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Speaker 10: starvation or slowly die from exposure or infection. And you

551
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Speaker 10: can't walk away from the kids to leave them to

552
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Speaker 10: that fate. So we had to try something. And even

553
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Speaker 10: if it was equally certain what the outcome would be,

554
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Speaker 10: I thought to myself, well, at least it'll be swift

555
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Speaker 10: and there'll be asleep. And I know that's a terrible

556
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Speaker 10: justification for a plan, but if you're give them those

557
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Speaker 10: two choices, what are you going to do?

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Speaker 2: But still, how's that for you? Mentally? I mean, I

559
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 2: think a lot of people would have just walked away

560
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Speaker 2: because they, you know, don't want to be responsible for

561
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Speaker 2: that decision. I appreciate what you're saying, like the other

562
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Speaker 2: option is they just stay there and perish. But for you, mentally,

563
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Speaker 2: knowing that you're about to embark on a plan which

564
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Speaker 2: you yourself think, I'm not even sure if this is going

565
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Speaker 2: to work, and there are lives, you know, on your hands,

566
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Speaker 2: in a way that mentally for you, how difficult was that?

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Speaker 10: Well, it was worse than being not sure if it

568
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Speaker 10: was going to work. I was positive it wouldn't positive.

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Speaker 10: And it was only after the first day when some

570
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Speaker 10: of the boys survived, that I started to realize that

571
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Speaker 10: maybe old Rick Stanton was onto something here. But you know,

572
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Speaker 10: I just I felt that to walk away and leave

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Speaker 10: them to that fate, I wouldn't deal with that, as

574
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Speaker 10: well as perhaps the outcome that would be put on

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Speaker 10: my shoulders, I guess as the person responsible. But I

576
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Speaker 10: couldn't live with myself just to get on get on

577
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Speaker 10: the plane and fly home and leave them. So, you know,

578
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Speaker 10: to try something.

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Speaker 1: It really is like that sort of it's a problem

580
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Speaker 1: that your only wish on somebody and hypothetical do you

581
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Speaker 1: want to save one or you know, pull the lever

582
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Speaker 1: of the train goes one way, you save one? Or

583
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Speaker 1: do you want to save twenty sort of thing, and

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Speaker 1: then you you having to personally say to yourself the

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Speaker 1: benefit of saving one of these kids is worth the

586
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Speaker 1: risk of losing.

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Speaker 3: All of them is yah. I just I don't know

588
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 3: how you dealt with that, mate.

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Speaker 10: Well, it seems worse talking about it, you know now

590
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 10: than I think it was at the time, because you know,

591
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 10: it just seemed black and white to me.

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Speaker 1: There was no alternative.

593
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Speaker 6: But to give it a crack.

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Speaker 2: Actually I disagree, Harry, like you've been modest, mate. I

595
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:35,919
Speaker 2: most people just.

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Speaker 3: Go with that too hard. There's no way I want

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Speaker 3: to try that.

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Speaker 2: Again, as you're saying, given that you, with all your knowledge,

599
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 2: were one hundred percent this isn't going to work. And

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Speaker 2: then to still go through with it I just made.

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Speaker 2: I think it is absolutely phenomenal and a true sign

602
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,919
Speaker 2: of some real mental strength. There can I ask you?

603
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 2: When you did put the boys under, they had intramuscular

604
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 2: injections in the thigh, so ketamine to put them to sleep,

605
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,959
Speaker 2: and atropine to suppress the saliva production to stop them choking.

606
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 2: What was it actually like if you're okay answering this,

607
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 2: so the boy is under and then you are effectively

608
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 2: dragging someone who is unconscious through a tunnel. We've actually

609
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 2: got some audio.

610
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 3: We've actually got some audio to illustrate this.

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00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 10: Once they were unconscious, it was basically trying to put

612
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 10: a mask on a rag doll. I didn't feel comfortable

613
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 10: in any way, shape or form about what we were doing,

614
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 10: pushing someone's face underwater who's unconscious, and then tying their

615
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 10: hands behind their back. I mean that both those things

616
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 10: feel very, very wrong. I felt like euthanasia to me. Yeah,

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Speaker 10: I can't argue with that. Yeah, imagine. I mean these

618
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Speaker 10: guys are you know, Rickers are retired fireman, John's got

619
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Speaker 10: an it business. Jason's a rope rescue worker or a

620
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 10: rope access worker. You know, there's dive instructors, Craig's a vet.

621
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Speaker 10: All these guys are not anthous. So you know, to

622
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 10: teach them and ask of them to do this, to

623
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Speaker 10: take an unconscious boy underwater, zero visibility, all they can

624
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 10: do is to touch, feel, and hear the boys breathing,

625
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 10: and then to rein esthetize them. You know that is

626
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 10: asking a lot. It's basically like asking one of you

627
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 10: two guys to do it, and do it in an

628
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 10: hour from now. Vibration they had experience. I turned the

629
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Speaker 10: lights out in the studio and asked you to look

630
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Speaker 10: after this unconscious boy while I duck out down to

631
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Speaker 10: the cafe for an hour. Toy, wouldn't you?

632
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 2: I think I'd hit my own fire with the kidder man, So.

633
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think it showed enormous courage on the part

634
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 10: of these other divers to do that.

635
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Speaker 3: Mate.

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Speaker 1: It is honestly one of the greatest stories I think

637
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: any of us have in living memory. It was obviously

638
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: all over the news, and whilst it was the most

639
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: tragic news at the time, it turned into the best news.

640
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 1: If you haven't seen it Disney Plus the Rescue, go

641
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: and watch it yourself. Dr Richard Harris, it's been a

642
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: pleasure to talking to your mate. And can I just say,

643
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: Joel Edgerton, who's going to be playing you in the

644
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: feature film Thirteen Lives, which is set for release on April.

645
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 3: It doesn't hold a candle to your mate. You are yeah,

646
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 3: just I mean an epic bike I reckon in every prop.

647
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 10: Well, I hope he's I hope he's a better actor

648
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 10: than me.

649
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 2: I heard you wanted Brad Pitt. Harry said, sorry, Harry.

650
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Speaker 10: Can I also mention the Netflix production which is coming

651
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 10: out during the year as well, and Corcer is playing

652
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 10: me and that so.

653
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 3: Choose your favorite, Harry.

654
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: Really to shove your wife hasn't got the same choices. Oh, Harry,

655
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: It's been a pleasure to talk to your mate. Honestly,

656
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: Just congratulations. I know this was a while ago, but

657
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: for everyone else that's reliving this story, the ins and

658
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: outs of it, you speak beautifully about the whole thing

659
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: made and all the best mate. Hopefully we get a

660
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: chance to bumpa you sometime in the future, that'd be great.

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Speaker 2: Thanks. Good Coming up next Will more Will and Woody

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Speaker 2: The Will and Woody Podcast one sixty five.

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Speaker 1: What's the grossest thing that's happened in your workplace? Love

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Speaker 1: to hear from you before we get to Australia's easy

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Speaker 1: as quiz WARDZ.

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Speaker 3: And that's because there's.

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Speaker 1: A woman called Laura Ashley and you know I love

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Speaker 1: this Gid she's from Riverside in California, and she's a

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Speaker 1: champion of the no Pooh method.

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Speaker 3: So what's so the no Pooh method?

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Speaker 2: Well, it's unhealthy.

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Speaker 1: She hasn't used shampoo in six years.

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Speaker 3: She's a raw vegan.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, as a result, she hasn't used shampoo in

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Speaker 1: six years.

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Speaker 2: My brother preachers that apparently hair does begin to clean itself.

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Speaker 3: I have heard that.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that's signs to be backed.

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Speaker 3: And I don't like to throw myself in two hair

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Speaker 3: to bags.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to because he's bored everyone. If you don't

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Speaker 2: know what will looks like at a big.

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Speaker 3: Bald head, thank you, Leanne On thirty one oh six ' five.

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Speaker 1: The grossest thing that someone's done in your workplace currently

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Speaker 1: not using shampoo for six years takes the cake.

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Speaker 9: What you got, Ah, it's the grossest thing is me

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Speaker 9: and unfortunately my dog.

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Speaker 11: So I took him into work one day and he

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Speaker 11: decided to back his spum up.

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Speaker 9: To one of the colleagues' handbags and do a giant

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Speaker 9: shit in the handbag.

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Speaker 2: Ah, very good, I had just fish it out.

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Speaker 3: Gee, you did deliver it all right, thanks to cool

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Speaker 3: the end.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, my dog took a whiz. As a former

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Speaker 2: dog that I had in Western Australia, I took a

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Speaker 2: whiz in the GM's office. Do you remember that?

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Speaker 3: I do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that has been a giggle, wasn't it. No, she

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Speaker 2: didn't think it was a giggle.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Andrew on thirty and one and six five. Andrew,

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Speaker 1: you're in construction. Grossest thing someone's done at a workplace.

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Speaker 11: Oh are you boys?

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Speaker 4: Much?

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Speaker 11: Show?

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Speaker 3: Thanks Andrew, Thanks Andy.

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Speaker 11: Construction we're starting quite early in the morning. And yeah,

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Speaker 11: we went to our catana and opened the door and

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Speaker 11: found that someone had taken a nice dump in the doorway.

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Speaker 11: It was not a very good surprise to find first

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Speaker 11: thing in the morning and you even even had breakfast.

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Speaker 2: Yet, it's mate, you know what it is. It's these,

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Speaker 2: it's these, it's these pool joggers. There's there's this real

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Speaker 2: trend of that's going on, these people that call themselves

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Speaker 2: poo joggers.

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Speaker 1: But there was in a workplace. It was in the

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Speaker 1: door of the Andrew, did you find.

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Speaker 3: Out who it was?

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Speaker 11: No, we did not, mate. They did not leave a note.

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Speaker 2: I'd love to know if this is a thing adults

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Speaker 2: giving each other the silent treatment, so historically a childish

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Speaker 2: thing to do to give someone the silent treatment.

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Speaker 1: Just before we go on very quickly, that's obvious. See

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Speaker 1: the famous song sound of Silence by Simon and Garf Uncle.

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Speaker 3: Yes, in the song.

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Speaker 1: Now you don't have to do this, you asked our

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Speaker 1: audio producer and Button Bush and Joel to get you

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Speaker 1: that song about silence by Johnny and Billy, I did.

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Speaker 2: I had a miss. I had a miss. But when

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Speaker 2: I'm off air, I switch off. I gotta switch out

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Speaker 2: and switch off and I'm back to one baby. Oh,

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Speaker 2: Johnny and Billy did a good cover of it. So

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Speaker 2: thirty one six five. If you have received a silent

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Speaker 2: treatment from someone as an adult, or given a silent treatment,

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Speaker 2: give us a call. I want to know how long

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Speaker 2: the silent treatment went for why you gave the silent

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Speaker 2: treatment and the reason we're talking about it will is

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Speaker 2: because there was a bit of a silent treatment that

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Speaker 2: was delivered to the Russian figure skater Gimilla Villieva. She

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Speaker 2: returned last week a positive drug test.

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Speaker 3: But because she's is it with Russians and doping hate.

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Speaker 2: Look, I don't want to make any outlandish comments here,

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Speaker 2: so so I just won't. Actually I want to continue

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Speaker 2: that center.

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Speaker 3: It's always are Joy canceling?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm not going to comment on that.

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Speaker 3: It was a leading question.

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Speaker 2: It was you led the witness. Shame on you anyway. So,

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Speaker 2: if she's fifteen years old, she's returned a positive drug test,

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Speaker 2: I do think there's any questioning that. You know, she's

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Speaker 2: obviously had a performance enhancing drug.

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Speaker 3: Why is she still out there there?

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Speaker 2: So because she is fifteen years old, I don't know

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Speaker 2: the true nuts and bolts of this, but because she's

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Speaker 2: under the age of sixteen, she can continue to compete,

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Speaker 2: which just seems like a ridiculous rule. And if that's

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Speaker 2: not the case, take all your complaints to producer and Alyse,

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Speaker 2: because that's what she's told me. But I don't know

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Speaker 2: all the nuts and bolts. But effectively, she's still out

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Speaker 2: there at.

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Speaker 3: The winter around sixteen, she's still competing.

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Speaker 2: She's performing, and she's currently in the lead, like in

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Speaker 2: her figure skating in grade for want of a better word.

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Speaker 2: But really interestingly, because this obviously got out at the

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Speaker 2: winter pics, people are furious that she's obviously still out

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Speaker 2: the Camilla is still out there skating to the point

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Speaker 2: where NBC broadcasters are Johnny Weir and Tara Lepinsky, the

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Speaker 2: dynamic duo of Weir and Lipinski, they decided to give

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Speaker 2: her the silent treatment during her routine. Got a bit

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Speaker 2: of audio of that. That's obviously there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: silence there, So shocking for the people that were obviously watching.

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Speaker 3: Shocking for the people that were listening.

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Speaker 2: That wasn't a gag, it's real audio. Thank you to

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Speaker 2: NBC for sending that awful audio through. But yeah, thirty

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Speaker 2: one oh sixty five. This is two adults giving someone

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Speaker 2: the silent treatment. I would love to hear about some

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Speaker 2: more adults that have delivered or received a silent treatment.

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Speaker 3: Love to know if you're currently under the silent.

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Speaker 1: Treatment as well, currently serving if you're currently serving a

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Speaker 1: bit of silent time for some sort of indiscretion, let's

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Speaker 1: face it, probably in your relationship.

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Speaker 2: Yep, yep, yep.

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Speaker 3: That'd be the go to thirteen one six five.

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Speaker 1: If you've been on the end of the silent treatment,

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Speaker 1: you might have been currently serving a bit of a

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Speaker 1: silent term.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, Because at the Winter Olympics, Kimilla villi Eva received

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Speaker 2: the silent treatment from the dynamic duo of Weir and Lipinski,

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Speaker 2: who are MBC's commentating superstars. There. They just stopped commentating

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Speaker 2: Kimilla when she was doing her routine because she or

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Speaker 2: she returned a positive drug test last week. And again,

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I don't know the nuts of bolts this.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why she's still able to compete, but

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Speaker 2: she is.

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Speaker 3: We think it might be an age thing. She's fifteen.

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Speaker 2: She is fifteen years old. But she's currently in the

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Speaker 2: lead of so she's winning it and they know she's

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Speaker 2: had a performance.

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Speaker 3: Enhancing D to mention that last time.

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Speaker 2: I thought I did, but maybe honest did it in

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Speaker 2: your head?

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Speaker 1: She's she's in the least, she's in the least in

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Speaker 1: the gold medal position.

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Speaker 3: She's a known doper and she's still on the course.

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Speaker 3: She doped. She got just a positive a week ago.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, why why Johnny Weir and Tara Lipinski of NBC,

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Speaker 2: the absolute best in the beers, they just stopped went

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Speaker 2: and had a smoke and a coke when Valieva was

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Speaker 2: on the ice. Not sure they did that. Well, that

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Speaker 2: just didn't talk anyway. We got Chloe here because I'm

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Speaker 2: just fascinated by adult like, these two are adults, Lipinsky

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Speaker 2: and were these commentators from NBC? They're adults and they've

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Speaker 2: delivered a silent treatment. It's aggressive, very seems passive aggressive very.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Chloe here on thirteen one oh sixty five. Chloe,

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Speaker 2: you recently gave some silent treatment as an adult?

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Speaker 9: Yes? Why well, I just bought a Tura machine and

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Speaker 9: my brother tripped on the box and kicked the machine

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Speaker 9: and I stopped talking to him for a whole month.

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Speaker 9: Why well, I love truros and he just kicked the

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Speaker 9: box that I just bought, and I was so annoyed him.

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Speaker 2: Why did you kick a box that had your turro

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Speaker 2: maker in it?

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Speaker 9: Is?

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Speaker 2: This seems all very old.

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Speaker 9: Puzzled me as well. But he was just blind and

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Speaker 9: tripped on it, so it was an accident.

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Speaker 2: So do you think did it meant to make you

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Speaker 2: feel better giving him the silent treatment? And was that

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Speaker 2: that annoying for him or was he just like sweet?

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Speaker 2: Done it to talk to you for a month.

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Speaker 9: No, he was so annoyed because we're really close, so

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Speaker 9: he talks to me about everything, and then in that

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Speaker 9: month I stopped talking to him so much. It happened

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Speaker 9: in his life from month.

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Speaker 3: You didn't you for a month?

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Speaker 1: Do you do you consider yourself to be quite a

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Speaker 1: juvenile person, Chloe.

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Speaker 2: To embrace it way to embrace.

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Speaker 3: For me is just the ultimate sign of childishness.

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Speaker 1: He's not talking to someone and at the very at

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Speaker 1: the very least wards this has to be an egregious

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Speaker 1: offense in order to be traditioning out the silent treatment.

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Speaker 2: Well, he kicked a chiro box. No, I understand that,

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Speaker 2: So you know that's pretty egregious if you ask me,

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Speaker 2: I'm an egregious is a subjective term. I'm going to

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Speaker 2: say egregious one more time. Egregious. Let's got a bill

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Speaker 2: here on thirteen one oh sixty five. Bill, here we go.

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Speaker 2: We've got a current one. You're serving a silent treatment

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Speaker 2: from your boss right now? Why accidentally pushed?

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Speaker 3: Oh no, what?

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Speaker 2: No, Bill's bill has dropped bill jobs all time. Ze bombs.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that is just not okay,