1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,279 Speaker 1: You are listening to mix one. Oh four point nine's 2 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: three sixty Now it is just on nine thirty and 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: we are I'm just making sure I've got all these 4 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: microphones turned on properly. Now we know that the latest 5 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: NT crime statistics have been released and the numbers in 6 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: some areas are pretty high. Commercial break ins in Darwen 7 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: and Palmerston up significantly in Darwin up forty eight point 8 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 1: five nine percent. Palmerston they're up thirty five point two percent. 9 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: Now Alice Springs, Poor old Alice Springs, it was up 10 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: sixty percent. Catherine up forty one percent. Now joining me 11 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: in the studio to tell us more about the crime 12 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 1: stats is Commander for Darwin and Road Policing, Danny Bacon. 13 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:42,599 Speaker 1: Good morning to you, Katy. Commander. Let's talk about these 14 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: commercial break ins. First, why are we seeing such an increase. 15 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 1: Is it a result of some of that alcohol related 16 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: crime or is it youth crime? 17 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 2: What is this a combination of both, Katie, it's adult 18 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: crime predominantly regards to alcohol. I'm seeking for our call, 19 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 2: particularly the our commercial businesses that have alcohol for sale. 20 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 2: Some of it is youth related in regards to small goods, 21 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 2: regards to stuff that they could easily pawn off and 22 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 2: make some quick money for. So the figures are quite large. Certainly, 23 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 2: we've had some small winds within parmers and regarding residential breaks, 24 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 2: which is good to seize two percent in regards to 25 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 2: what we're doing in regards to the property crime itself. 26 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 2: As you know, Strike Force tried and is a tried 27 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 2: and tested strike force within the Greater Darm region. It's 28 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 2: had some significant I suppose input and outcomes in regards 29 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 2: to certainly apprehending offenders in a quick timing matter. I know, 30 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 2: whilst it's not helpful for victims of today, but certainly 31 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 2: in the Greater Dah region there's been a decreasing trend 32 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 2: in property crime over last decade overall. But yes, there 33 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: are some significant I suppose people in town at the 34 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 2: moment regarding itinerants, people sleeping rough Some of those individuals 35 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 2: are offending in this nature. So some of it does 36 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 2: relate to residents, but some does relate to our large 37 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 2: increase of visitors. 38 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: And we had spoken. We caught up with Travis Wurst 39 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago and spoke about some of 40 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: the numbers that we are seeing on the streets in 41 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: terms of people here from other communities. We'd also spoken 42 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: to the Deputy Commissioner Michael Murphy about it as well, 43 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: and he had said that ordinarily there'd be around seven 44 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 1: hundred people maybe in Darwin at any one time, but 45 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: we were looking at more than two thousand. How are 46 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: those numbers going at the moment. Are we sort of 47 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: seeing some people head home or is it really not 48 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: changing too. 49 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 2: Much depending on which organization you're speaking to this junction 50 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 2: in time, but those figures vary between two to three thousand. 51 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 2: People are sleeping rough. Some people are leaving rough of 52 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,119 Speaker 2: their own volition, if that makes any sense, So they're 53 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 2: choosing that last some unfortunately, are not choosing that lifestyle 54 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 2: as well. So certainly we are one key stakeholder in 55 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 2: this equation. You know, the Department chief men's are coordinating 56 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 2: a lot of stakeholders in this space, and so we're 57 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 2: hoping to see a lot more buying, you know, from 58 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 2: other agencies, both government and non government agencies that are 59 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 2: funded to work in this space. So we're very keen 60 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 2: and we are seeing a lot more of an uptake, 61 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 2: a lot more engagement from those agencies just to certainly 62 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 2: work with those rough sleepers and not itinerous to see, 63 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 2: you know, if there is a availability for a return 64 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 2: to country, or if there's a housing or any other 65 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 2: social issues that need to be for that early intervention. 66 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: Because I guess the issue as well is that it's 67 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: not only then, you know, when we see businesses broken 68 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: into in some cases, or that alcohol issues, but I 69 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: would imagine as well, you know, some of that domestic 70 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: violence too. It does creep in even on the streets 71 00:03:58,440 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: when there are people sleeping rough. 72 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad you did raise domestic viance, K, because 73 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 2: the lot of the conversation is about property crime, and 74 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 2: I'm not detracting. You know, the property crime is quite high, 75 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 2: but you know when we release the property crime, well 76 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 2: the stats on Friday, you know, overnight that night there 77 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 2: was twenty one domestic violence incidents and there were six 78 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 2: unlawful entries. But we're not talking about the domestic aviance. 79 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 2: We're talking about the unlawful entries. And you know four 80 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 2: of those unlawfullys were unlocked premises at the time. So 81 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 2: and even tonight this morning, you know, there's seventeen and 82 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 2: domestic violence incidance confirmed overnight and we had two unlawful 83 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 2: entries confirmed overnight and again both those unlawful entries through 84 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:43,119 Speaker 2: unlocked doors. So you know, certainly in the property area. 85 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 2: In regards to speaking with the community, speaking with victims 86 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 2: about personal safety around the home, I think that can 87 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 2: certainly go a long way to reducing some of that crime. 88 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 2: But I really want to turn our conversations to domestic violence. 89 00:04:56,200 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 2: You know, the domestic violence numbers are quite staggering. Yes, 90 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 2: we are bringing them down certainly over the last six months. 91 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 2: We're actually reducing some are assault offenders assault offending. However, 92 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 2: they are still quite high. So the commands developed Strikeforce LIRA, 93 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 2: which is a combination of operational offices across the broader 94 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 2: Command region working in with our domestic violence Crime unit, 95 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 2: and they're looking at intervening as soon as the matters 96 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 2: are reported so we can provide more timing investigations for 97 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 2: both repeat victims and certain so we can deal with 98 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 2: offenders before they become resided as offenders as well. So 99 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 2: that's where we're trying to apply a lot of our 100 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 2: resources this time, obviously in conjunction with our Property crime 101 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 2: and ASB work. 102 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it does sound as though there's quite a bit 103 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: going on in that domestic violence space, not only terribly 104 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 1: in terms of the volume of incidents that you're being 105 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: called out to. I mean, that's quite astronomical. Twenty one 106 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 1: incidents one night, seventeen the next. They're really big numbers. 107 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: But like I said, it does sound as though the 108 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: Territory Police have got a number of different initiatives that 109 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: they've got underway to try and make some inroads there, Commander, 110 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: when I talk about or when we just to go 111 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 1: back to briefly those break ins and some of those 112 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: commercial break ins, when you look at what's going on 113 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: at the moment, what additional work are the police sort 114 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: of undertaking to try and minimize those commercial break ins? 115 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 1: And I know that there's so many factors that come 116 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,799 Speaker 1: into play here, but what work is underway in that space. 117 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 2: Well, certainly our enforcement space is strike force Trident, but 118 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 2: that is just the enforcement aspect. So really what we 119 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 2: need to do is getting that early intervention space. So 120 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 2: that's where the Department, Chief Men, Territory Families Housing, Larkie Nation, 121 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 2: a number of other support agencies. That's where we're expecting 122 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 2: a lot of effort in there, because that's where to 123 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 2: be Frank, that's where we need to get the uptake 124 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 2: from to lessen the offendings where they amblers at the 125 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 2: bottom of the cliffers in that terminology. By the time 126 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 2: they're offending to a certain degree, it's too late. So 127 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 2: we really need to get in that early intervention area 128 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 2: and work with the other agencies and other government departments 129 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 2: in that area. 130 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: Hey, can I just ask quickly? I know there was 131 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: a couple of incidents or there was one over the weekend, 132 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: a sixty one year old woman assaulted in Ballamack as 133 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: I understand, is there any update on that situation? 134 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 2: Certainly can a tragic incident in itself, but the eighteen 135 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 2: year old adult is currently in Cussy facing court this 136 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 2: morning and the fourteen year old youth it was apprehended 137 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 2: and it's on restricted bail and we'll be attending court 138 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 2: at a later time now. 139 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: I also believe that there was I just heard in 140 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: our news a little bit earlier an arrest in Wanguri 141 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: in which one of the canine police I believe, then 142 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: bit one of the offenders. 143 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 2: Yes it was a canine police dog. Wasn't a canine 144 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 2: police officer that bit one of the offenders? Want to 145 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 2: clarify that, yes, the canine unit is a critical unit 146 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 2: for our enforcement and both in a proactive and reactive 147 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 2: so that we have them patrolling through our nighttime and 148 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 2: obviously when the reports come through, they're a very effective tool. Obviously, 149 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 2: we don't want our canine dogs to bite suspects, our offenders, 150 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 2: but when we call somebody to stop, we hope that 151 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 2: they do so because getting bitten is a likely outcome. 152 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 2: So we'll continue to use the canine units across the 153 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 2: Gray Darin, both in that reactive and proactive sense to 154 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 2: try and both reduce offending so people know that they're about, 155 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 2: but also there to catch offenders and catch offenders in 156 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 2: the timing manner. 157 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 1: Now, we also got a question from a listener a 158 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: bit earlier, and you may not be able to provide 159 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: much of an update in this case, but this person 160 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: did ask, is there any update on the shooting incident 161 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: that occurred in Gray recently? 162 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I certainly can't provide any update regard that particular matter. 163 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 2: That matter rests with our crime team. What I can 164 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 2: tell your listener is that there's a lot of agencies 165 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 2: obviously working with the community. The community is obviously grieving 166 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 2: and people across a wide spectrum as well. So we're 167 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 2: working with agencies and working with families to try and 168 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,839 Speaker 2: make sure that the community feels safe and continue to 169 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 2: do so. 170 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see if we can get a bit of 171 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: an update as well from the appropriate areas. Now, before 172 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: I let you go, Commander, I know that there has 173 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: been a lot happening at the moment, certainly when it 174 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 1: comes to the morale of the force. There is the 175 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: high profile court case last week. Now, I certainly don't 176 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: expect you to go into any sort of political commentary here, 177 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: but how is the morale within the force at the moment? 178 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 2: I think certainly. You know I can't speak for every office, 179 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 2: I really can't, but certainly there's been an emotional and 180 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 2: mental rollercoaster for a lot of our team members for 181 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 2: a long period of time, you know, not detracting from 182 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 2: the challenging incidents, but we'll also a COVID response over 183 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 2: to a year period of time has been quite quite 184 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 2: long and arduous for a lot of our members. So 185 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 2: you know, they're hurting for a range of different reasons. 186 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 2: So is the community itself. We are our individual community, 187 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,559 Speaker 2: but you know we're a very broad community. We're part 188 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 2: of the community as well, so where we're grieving with 189 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 2: the community as much as we're grieving with ourselves as well. 190 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 2: But they're very professionally our officers, and they stand up 191 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 2: under those challenging circumstances. They really do, and I'm very 192 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 2: proud of them. 193 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: All is I mean, is there any additional work being 194 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: undertaken in an effort to sort of support officers or 195 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 1: to try and lift that morale there? 196 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:41,079 Speaker 2: Certainly is. One of my key roles is to certainly 197 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 2: talk to my officers to find out any issues concerned 198 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 2: and sitting address those. You know, a lot of those 199 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 2: is not just external factors, it's also internally and how 200 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 2: they're going and how they're feeling, and how I can 201 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 2: sort of improve both where they're at but also for 202 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 2: their future as well. So I'm very engaged in having 203 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,079 Speaker 2: those discussions, and so's my whole management. I'd say, so 204 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 2: the organization and everybody is traveling very very differently. They 205 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 2: really are, depending on you know, they where they are 206 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 2: and their current career and what they've been involved in 207 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 2: or certainly exposed to so well. 208 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: Commander for Darwin and Roade Policing Danny Bacon, we really 209 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: appreciate your time this morning. Thank you very much for 210 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: having a chat with me. 211 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 2: All right, drummers all, thank you, thank you.