1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: This is gam Nation with Jonesy. 2 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 2: Last time we spoke to our next guest, he'd just 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 2: survived the celebrity jungle. Then of course there was something 4 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 2: called a pandemic. I don't know if you remember any 5 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:14,159 Speaker 2: of that. Well, he's now back with an exciting new 6 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 2: show that celebrates everything he's achieved over the last decade. 7 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 2: The show is called Decinium. This is Australia's favorite magician, 8 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 2: illusionist and escape artist Cosantino. 9 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 3: Hello, Hello, thank you for having me. 10 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 4: Always a treat mate, always a tree. 11 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: How do you keep coming up with new things? 12 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 2: Because you've put your body on the line, you've put 13 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 2: your brain on the line, You've done incredible illusions. 14 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 1: How do you think up something new? 15 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 3: I think it's just through stupidity actually coming up with 16 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 3: all these crazy ideas of thinking what would the audience 17 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 3: like to see? If I was sitting in the audience, 18 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 3: what would I like to see? But it takes so 19 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 3: much time to come up with the material. It's a 20 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 3: minimum of about three to six months per elue or escape. 21 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 3: It's a lot of work. 22 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 4: That would be a lot of it. 23 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 2: And also once you're good at it, then that's great, 24 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:07,839 Speaker 2: particularly if it's something dangerous you're doing with your body, 25 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 2: like you're kneeling drowning once before, but practicing that that 26 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 2: must be where all the danger happens. 27 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 3: Exactly, that's where things go wrong. That's when you up 28 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 3: in the emergency room and it's a look, we we 29 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 3: it's a calculated risk. We take it step by step. 30 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 3: If you're doing it underwater escape, we'll do something called 31 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 3: it dry run where basically obviously there's no water, and 32 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 3: then we fill it up slowly by bit where my 33 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 3: head is just above the water and there's no locks 34 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 3: or chains or restraints, and then basically you just stack 35 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 3: it into you can do it, and you rehearse it 36 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 3: and rehearse it and rehearse it, and you practice it. 37 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 3: And once again it's a calculated risk. But a little 38 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 3: bit of rust in a lock, bobbing your head, let's say, underwater, 39 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 3: not feeling great that night, things can go wrong. 40 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 4: Well, I have enough trouble opening my front door and 41 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 4: I'm busting to. 42 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: Do a week. 43 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 4: You know, when you get you get home and you're 44 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 4: just trying to ben you're bust. 45 00:01:55,440 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 2: In and your urine is the escape artist that day? 46 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, well you know that's that thing there you go. See, 47 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 3: you know, when when you're when you're under pressure and 48 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 3: you've got to get that door opened, sometimes things can 49 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 3: go wrong and you pee your pants. It does happen, 50 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 3: it doesn't. So same thing that my risk is just 51 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 3: a little higher. 52 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. 53 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:17,839 Speaker 4: I imagine that you're in the tank and you're wie 54 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 4: your pants and you've had a barock or everyone goes, oh, 55 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 4: not only is its wet hands? 56 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, well they would see the witness, but they'd see 57 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 3: the color in the water, wouldn't. 58 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: Yeah giveaway. That'd be a trick absolutely. So can you 59 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: give us some idea of the kind of things that 60 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: are in this show? Then? Yeah. 61 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 3: So it's basically it takes the best of all my 62 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 3: live shows, the best of my nine TV specials, measures 63 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 3: them all together. So what is there? Okay, people levitating 64 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 3: and disappearing and teleporting across the stage. There's the close 65 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 3: up slide of hand magic projected onto screens as the 66 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 3: destifying escapes we're talking about where people actually now get 67 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 3: to come up on stage. Examined the locks, examine the restraints, 68 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 3: see me in the water tank, sit next to me 69 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 3: in the water tank. Get where by the actual water, 70 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 3: and it's very immersive, like you can participate as much 71 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 3: as you want, or you can just sit back and 72 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,519 Speaker 3: enjoy it for really what it is. And it's yeah, 73 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 3: I look. I always I would always say to my team, 74 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 3: do you know what the day they would get to 75 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 3: do the best of it's going to be incredible. And 76 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 3: it's been a long time coming. I've been doing it 77 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 3: for a very long time. So it's really exciting for 78 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 3: me to be able to take all my great material 79 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 3: and put it into just one show. 80 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 4: And what about the basic stuff just getting a rabbit 81 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 4: out of a hat or something like. 82 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 3: That we left up behind when I was about thirteen 83 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 3: we moved. 84 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 4: I'm still impressed. I'm still impressed. You know when those 85 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 4: guys get the seagull not a little pigeon, and they 86 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 4: got bang and they and then it just appears. I'm 87 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 4: always amazed by it. 88 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 2: It's a true Cozantino that years ago when that trick, 89 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 2: this is what I've heard when the trick of the 90 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 2: disappearing pigeon or the dove pigeon was first done. One 91 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 2: of the early magicians used to do that trick night 92 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 2: after night, and so only after he died they discovered 93 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 2: that a giant press came down behind a curtain in 94 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 2: the third cage, and it was actually just squashing them 95 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 2: to death. 96 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 3: Look there there, it's terrible. Originally when it first started, 97 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 3: yeasy and we were talking like you know, like eighteen hundreds, 98 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 3: there was a message where that would actually happen. It 99 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 3: was a bit of a sacrifice, but no, magicians figured 100 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 3: out a way that the bird would not be harmed 101 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 3: or injured in any way whatsoever. But you're talking about 102 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 3: pulling rabbits out of hat. It's interesting because that actually 103 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 3: in itself is a very different trick to pull off. 104 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 3: I can't imagine that, like it's oh, it's so simple. 105 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 3: That's actually really quite challenging. 106 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:33,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, because you've got to put the hats on your hand, 107 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 4: and then you got a rabbit. And my daughter had 108 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 4: a rabbit when she was little. Nothing was a pain 109 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 4: in the neck. 110 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 3: Correctly much time, exactly. That's why magicians moved on to 111 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 3: using doves because they're much easier to handle. 112 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 113 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 4: And when you hear doves cry, you know you've squished it. 114 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: Pull a rabbit out of a hat, pull a hair 115 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: out of your bump. It's all magic to me. 116 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 4: Now that's a trick. I've got to see that. 117 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: Write that down for next time. 118 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 4: Well made talk about It's always great to talk to you. Costantino. 119 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 4: To Kenyamic. 120 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: You don't say December Brendan instead of December. 121 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 2: Can we do this. 122 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: After the show? 123 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 4: Right, it's Latin. 124 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 3: Thank you. 125 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 4: I didn't know I was going to get a lecture 126 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 4: as well from both of you. But I'm looking forward 127 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 4: to seeing tickets on sale for de Senium if that's 128 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 4: what it's called. It is called that nation dot com 129 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 4: dot you Cousantino, we always love love to Priscilla. 130 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you guys. I just want to say thank 131 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 3: you so much for your support. Honestly, over the last 132 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 3: ten years, you guys have really, you know, really been 133 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 3: huge supporters. I mean, I appreciate everything you've done, so 134 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 3: thank you. 135 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 4: We're part of the Dancing with the Stars Alma. 136 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: Martin and your shows are my class of. 137 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 4: Which I had done. Thank you.