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Speaker 1: As we know, the Darwin and Casarina bus interchanges closed

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Speaker 1: on Monday. The Minister for Logistics and Infrastructure, Bill Yan,

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Speaker 1: said that the interchanges have become hot spots for ongoing

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Speaker 1: antisocial behavior and would be replaced with bus stops. So

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Speaker 1: how are things going after the first couple of days

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Speaker 1: of those changes being in place? Will Bill Yan, the

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Speaker 1: Treasurer and also the Minister for Infrastructure and Logistics, joins

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Speaker 1: me on the line. Good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Bill, Good morning Katie, and good morning all your listeners

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Speaker 2: in the top end.

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Speaker 1: Now, first off, how are things tracking after those first

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Speaker 1: two days of the changes being in place? I mean,

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Speaker 1: from your perspective, has there been any hiccups?

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Speaker 2: Well, I suppose, Katie. Sometimes no news is good news.

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Speaker 2: But on the first day on Monday, we had people

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Speaker 2: from DL and I believe that people from CDC the

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Speaker 2: contractor or out and about around Casurina, and by all

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Speaker 2: accounts reports back to me, everything has gone quite well,

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Speaker 2: which is great to see. Look, change doesn't matter what

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Speaker 2: sort of change. Es are sometimes difficult, but we're starting

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Speaker 2: to see some good results out of what's happening out

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Speaker 2: there at casual Ina. So look, I think as people

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Speaker 2: get used to it. Over time, things will get better.

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Speaker 2: But the bus tracker app, I believe is one of

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Speaker 2: the game change, is one of the big ticket things

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Speaker 2: that's helping make everything work because people can see exactly

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Speaker 2: where they is, exactly what time is going to show up,

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Speaker 2: so you don't have to stand around and wait for

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Speaker 2: to the second when your bus is going to show up,

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Speaker 2: so you can bet your stop and jump on the

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Speaker 2: bus and be on your way.

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Speaker 1: Minister, have you got any numbers in terms of, you know,

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Speaker 1: how many people have downloaded that app, how many people

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Speaker 1: are actually using it?

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Speaker 2: Excuse me, Well, I don't have those I don't have

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Speaker 2: those numbers, but I'm going to certainly probably try and

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Speaker 2: find out. But all accounts, a lot of people are

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Speaker 2: using the app. I've got people who I work with

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Speaker 2: who will use the app and they say that's great.

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Speaker 2: They showed it to me on my phone how to

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Speaker 2: spent a weekend laid up, so I didn't get to

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Speaker 2: get out of the buses have my weekend cruise around.

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Speaker 2: But the first opportunity I get when i'm up there

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Speaker 1: And you know what, I think that a lot of

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Speaker 1: Territoriens expect and would like to see you on those buses,

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Speaker 1: as I know you've done before, so that you get

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Speaker 1: a real sense of how things are going along. Hey, Minister,

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Speaker 1: I know I did get a message from a concerned

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Speaker 1: listener on Monday saying, Katie, where are the drivers meant

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Speaker 2: The drivers. So with some of the changes that the

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Speaker 2: they are able to swap the drivers out at specific

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Speaker 2: By cd C, they've been well and truly on board

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Speaker 2: So we've been working really hard ever since we came

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Speaker 1: I think everyone hoping for that now. We did actually

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Speaker 3: I would imagine, well, I'm not sure about probably at

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Speaker 1: But you'd hope not.

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately, I would have been talking to people in those areas,

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Speaker 2: Well, certainly, I hope not, Katie, And I'll check in

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Speaker 2: they've been working pretty closely with everybody out around that

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Speaker 1: Hey, Bill on the bus drivers, is there any update

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Speaker 1: on the pay dispute. I know it obviously it falls

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Speaker 1: under CDC and the unions to negotiate. It's not the

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Speaker 1: minister's responsibility. However, you must be worried if the union's

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Speaker 1: sort of not ruling out further industrial action if things

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, and I met with I spoke with CDC

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Speaker 2: prior to the issue. Well, sorry that industrial action the

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Speaker 2: They are having a meeting late last week on the

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Speaker 2: it's for the company, for the drivers, and of course

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Speaker 2: no news is good news. I didn't hear anything, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it will typically come back from that meeting that was

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Speaker 2: sometimes when I don't get some news, you hope.

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Speaker 3: It's good probably good news.

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Speaker 1: Well let's see what we can find out now, Minister.

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Speaker 1: Not sure if you've seen, but Cat macnamara, the Greens

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Speaker 1: safety conditions for pedestrians and cyclists on Baggot Road. Now,

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Speaker 1: we know that it is notoriously an area where people

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Speaker 1: or a review of those safety conditions for pedestrians and

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Speaker 2: It's quite interesting, kay, because I know that's the member

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Speaker 2: for Fanny Day. Laurie Zeo has been trust me, she's

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Speaker 2: been on my case about this for months and months now,

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Speaker 2: and I know that the Department have been doing quite

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Speaker 2: So the department has been working on some lighting solutions

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Speaker 1: We're sounds like there could be some announcements to come

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's right, okay. I said that it's been raised

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Speaker 1: So it sounds like a safety order for pedestrians and

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Speaker 2: Well, I said that the department's been looking at this

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Speaker 2: the local member. Louris Zio has raised it with me

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Speaker 1: Then when do you anticipate some of those safety measures

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure that this stage, kay. I'd have to

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Speaker 2: an ingenious solution using lights and movement to the change

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Speaker 2: Say there's movement on the road by pedestrians, it changed

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Speaker 2: that's been worked through as we speak.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, we look forward to to finding out

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Speaker 1: when that is going to become operational. Hey, before I

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Speaker 1: let you go this morning. Good news last week of course,

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Speaker 1: with Donald Trump and Anthony Albanezi meeting and announcing that

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Speaker 1: they've signed this landmark agreement on Critical Minerals and rare Earths.

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Speaker 1: It's going to see a pipeline of priority projects delivered

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Speaker 1: with financial commitments also announced by the Australian government. Now,

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Speaker 1: as I understand, at US one hundred million dollars in

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Speaker 1: equity investments being committed. From your perspective, where are things

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Speaker 1: that Did you meet with the Federal Treasurer about this?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because we've i'd meet reasonably regularly with the people

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Speaker 2: from Nolan's Rare Earth. There are a few resources and

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Speaker 2: I met with the Federal treasure or maybe six weeks ago,

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Speaker 2: and one of our discussion was a piece of work

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Speaker 2: that the Commonwealth needed to do to move the investment along.

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Speaker 2: There was like a departmental approval that I spoke to

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Speaker 2: to his counterparts in the Commonwealth about that. And since then,

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Speaker 2: the course we've had Nam the Prime Minister, Anthony Albernizi

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Speaker 2: and Donald Trump, the President of the US of course

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Speaker 2: signed that landmark agreement, and only I think yesterday in

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Speaker 2: the media Junior Ryan Hart has put a hand up

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Speaker 2: and said she's investing further into Nolan's and Arapia. So

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Speaker 2: this is a project that's going to It was already

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Speaker 2: had quite a bit of momentum, but the momentum is

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Speaker 2: really gaining now. So I hope to see those guys

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Speaker 2: reaching final investment decision very soon and that project really

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Speaker 2: taking off here in Central Australia. It's a huge economic

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Speaker 2: benefit for the territory, specifically here for Central Australia, but

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Speaker 2: it also works in with our national and global security

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Speaker 2: for rare earths to be able to provide those I

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Speaker 2: think here they're doing neodinium and crazierdinnium is coming out

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Speaker 2: of Nolan's here and they're quite important for rare earth

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Speaker 2: magnets and electronics. So it's great news for the territory

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Speaker 2: and great news for Australia and put the territory front

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Speaker 2: and center on the security of rare earth internationally.

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Speaker 1: So how soon do we expect that, you know, if

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Speaker 1: everything goes ahead, Well, how quickly could this mine you

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Speaker 1: get up and running.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's quite a bit of work being done out

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Speaker 2: there already as far as the camp and exploration and

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Speaker 2: getting things ready to roll so they can get their

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Speaker 2: investment decision done, and they were talking about trying to

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Speaker 2: get some things locked down before Christmas. They could start

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Speaker 2: construction on the mind and the works to support the

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Speaker 2: mine early next year, I believe. So that's what Nolan's

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Speaker 2: and our Apia were talking to me about some time ago.

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Speaker 2: If we can hit those milestones, that's great news and

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Speaker 2: then we can start to see stuff coming out of

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Speaker 2: the ground.

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Speaker 1: Well, Bill Yan, the Treasurer and also also Minister for

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Speaker 1: Infrastructure and Transport, really appreciate your time this morning. Thanks

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Speaker 1: so much for having a chat with us.

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Speaker 2: Cheers Katie, you have a great day you too.

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Speaker 1: Thank you