WEBVTT - #61 Three Doting Dads ft. Tom Birmingham (Hello Sport) 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:04.280 Welcome to a bonus episode today, very special one for 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:04.680 Matt Na. 0:00:04.760 --> 0:00:06.720 He is a friend of ours, friend of the show. 0:00:07.240 --> 0:00:10.039 He's a girl dad Matt, so right up here, Ali. 0:00:10.280 --> 0:00:13.800 He's also a co host on a very popular sports 0:00:13.800 --> 0:00:16.320 podcast called Hello Sports. 0:00:16.400 --> 0:00:19.680 It is the home of unqualified opinion and unwavering Bias, 0:00:19.920 --> 0:00:23.480 a celebration of great Australian pastime that is talking about sport. 0:00:24.400 --> 0:00:27.720 Big fan of podcast Hello Sport. I absolutely love it. 0:00:27.960 --> 0:00:30.840 Big found of his work. We met Tom over in Vegas. 0:00:30.960 --> 0:00:33.239 We were there recently. I'm sure people are fed up 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:36.479 of us talking about Vegas, but we were there and 0:00:36.720 --> 0:00:37.839 I thought we need to get him on. 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:40.839 And he's a very very funny man. Which fun fact, 0:00:40.920 --> 0:00:46.000 his dad, Billy Okay Billy, is also known as the 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:49.120 twelfth the twelfth Man, so dating back to the eighties 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:52.720 there was a few albums released by a very funny 0:00:52.720 --> 0:00:55.960 man making and poking a lot of fun at Australian 0:00:56.200 --> 0:00:57.160 cricket commentation. 0:00:57.240 --> 0:01:02.000 I wish my mum was here because my absolutely loses 0:01:02.040 --> 0:01:05.440 her ship over the twelfth Man. If she had met Tom, 0:01:05.880 --> 0:01:07.360 he wouldn't have met it out here in one piece. 0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:08.360 She's a man. 0:01:09.480 --> 0:01:12.319 She would have absolutely had away with him. So yeah, 0:01:12.319 --> 0:01:15.720 it's a great chat and he's absolutely hilarious and just 0:01:16.720 --> 0:01:19.600 towards the end, don't mind the fact that we get 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:22.080 interrupted with the Nursey comes in and gives us ivy drips. 0:01:22.120 --> 0:01:24.800 Yeah, we start s learning a bit. We're tired. 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:42.000 That was to purpose back up, So enjoy. 0:01:43.319 --> 0:01:47.040 Welcome back to three doting dads. I'm Mattie, Jay Match, 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:51.840 and I'm Tom. Now normally we don't give advice. Today 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:55.760 Tom may be different. Will you have advice to give? 0:01:55.800 --> 0:01:57.920 No pressure, no pressure on the advice. 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:01.640 I may give advice, depends how the conversation goes. I 0:02:01.680 --> 0:02:04.720 also am like I hate getting given advice, well by 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:07.280 certain people. It depends who like you get advice from. 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:11.040 This may be surprised to some people because you don't 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:13.399 look like a man who's grown up in Bathist. 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:17.680 I didn't grub on Batist. There we go, There we go. 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:19.400 That makes a lot of sense. You went to Union. 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:20.560 I went to Union. 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:24.200 Bathst's too handsome for battle, Thank you so much. No, 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:26.440 I went to Union Bathtist. I grew up in barrel. 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:28.200 Same thing. 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:32.240 No, it's absolutely no disrespect to Bathists. 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:33.200 Start with a bee. 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:34.360 That's true. 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:36.360 They're eating caviar and lobster every morning. 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:37.400 They are now they weren't. 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:41.720 Yeah, No Barrel was lovely. It's changed a bit now 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:45.120 it's like full wedding destination. Southern Highlands. You know it's 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:48.239 almost called Southern high you know, no one but sounds 0:02:48.280 --> 0:02:49.080 to be like Barrel. 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:53.880 Yeah, Southern go out in the Highlands, South Wales, Southern Isghlands. 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:56.320 Yes, but No Barrel was mad. I really enjoyed growing 0:02:56.400 --> 0:02:58.800 up there. Left there when I was like fifteen or sixteen, 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:05.040 but batist Uni, which was a really nice way to 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:08.320 delay adult life. What should have been three years turned 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:09.560 out to be about five or six. 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:11.959 I've only ever been out there once and it was 0:03:12.160 --> 0:03:12.880 bloody good night. 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:14.560 What were you there for? 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:17.320 Never your mind? 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:19.560 I was there for a good night, right, and I 0:03:19.639 --> 0:03:23.280 look forgive me if we're wrong, but your dad, yes, 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:26.560 the twelfth Man correct, and obviously you live with that 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:29.280 in Barrel. For those who don't know who the twelfth 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:32.520 Man is, it's a bit of a cricket parody on 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:35.080 the reserve of a cricket team. But it was brought out. 0:03:35.080 --> 0:03:38.480 It was three no dude, he started in the eighties. 0:03:38.560 --> 0:03:44.640 Holy shit, right, like it was kind of cultish, how like, yeah, 0:03:44.720 --> 0:03:46.320 everyony like cricket, like the twelfth Man. 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:49.800 He was Basically he took the piss out of the 0:03:49.880 --> 0:03:55.000 commentary team for like Austrain cricket and then it's sort 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:59.240 of then like changed into like other sporting figures and 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:02.320 like so again it like he did one, he did 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:04.400 like five or six albums. I don't know, back when 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:08.080 it was like Wow, c d's and ship. But so 0:04:08.280 --> 0:04:09.760 he took the piss out of the country team. I 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:11.160 think it was sort of like a funny angle, like 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:14.480 when you're hearing like Richie Benno say fuck after you know, 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:17.880 like that was sort of naughty. Yeah, so naughty not 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:20.320 to reduce his things to just swear with. But so yeah, 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:24.160 he was. He was very clever, yeah, made he was good. 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:26.839 He was like sometimes I don't it was normal for 0:04:26.880 --> 0:04:28.520 me growing up, you know what I mean, like because 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:30.640 it was just all I ever knew. But now I'm 0:04:30.640 --> 0:04:34.840 a bit older, so I'm a lot older, actually thirty five, 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:37.200 but now I sort of appreciate it even more. Like 0:04:37.279 --> 0:04:39.720 he he one year at the R's got the highest 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:43.120 selling album of the year. Holy shit, Kylie. 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:46.840 You know what I mean. 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:49.719 Like, so he was way bigger than I actually really ever. 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:52.840 Yeah, but did people did he have that notariety because 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:55.720 it was CDs, right, people didn't necessarily put the face 0:04:55.800 --> 0:04:56.200 to the name. 0:04:56.360 --> 0:04:58.840 Yeah, he was, well, he wasn't like he definitely wasn't 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:00.880 like Kylie, but certainly like he got recognized. 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:04.320 It wasn't like dance moves like he can move. 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:07.400 The man can move. Yeah, he wasn't. He definitely had 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:09.479 like he was. Definitely he would get noticed in the street, 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:11.720 but it wasn't crazy. But it was just sort of 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:13.640 you know, like yell at someone yelling across the street 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:13.920 or something. 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:16.520 What about playing sport as a youngster, would he get 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:17.680 recognized on the field. 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:20.600 Yeah, yeah, for sure, that was probably where it happened more. 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:23.160 But again it was like you'd see you'd see like 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:28.440 people's dads start to act like weird. You know. That 0:05:28.520 --> 0:05:30.200 was where it was more funny because you're like that. 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:32.480 My kids were like didn't know it, like we didn't 0:05:32.640 --> 0:05:35.479 know anything. They were just like my mates. They knew 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:37.400 that dad was famous, but that was like sort of it. 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:38.840 I guess we sort of listened to it. It was 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:42.400 a bit naughty, like you could get away. Yeah yeah, yeah, 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:47.240 but you'd see like Dad's like, you know what's going 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:49.360 on here? Where that guy got a direction. 0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:52.680 To your house to pick up and made he's been 0:05:52.760 --> 0:05:54.640 hanging over And they'd always like come inside the house. 0:05:54.760 --> 0:05:57.240 Yeah, yeah, there's a bit of that stuff. But again, 0:05:57.320 --> 0:05:58.960 like it was all it was all pretty cool, Like 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:01.640 dad was always he's always been good with it. So 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:04.440 it's not like he's like a shy guy actually. 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:05.880 And it was he like was he like a really 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:06.760 funny dad to have? 0:06:07.080 --> 0:06:10.719 Yeah, yeah, he's funny, and like he's not like like 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:14.360 when you get him to laugh, it's like satisfact, not 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:16.920 because he's not. He's not like he's not like I'm 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:18.680 not gonna laugh at anything you say. But you're just 0:06:18.720 --> 0:06:21.200 like he's got a very respect his sense of humor. 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:23.440 So like if you get him, you're like fuck yeah, 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:25.040 but no, he's very funny. 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:25.560 He still is. 0:06:25.760 --> 0:06:28.760 And do you recall what his parenting style was like 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:30.240 back when you're a young fellow. 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:37.680 It was hands off. He was pretty chill, like you 0:06:37.720 --> 0:06:41.760 know he again like now I'm older, I can see 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:42.320 that it was like. 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:45.000 A strange lifestyle because he just didn't. 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:47.080 Work likeuse in he worked, but he would do like 0:06:47.080 --> 0:06:52.400 an album every five years, and then in between he 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:54.560 just sort of do whatever he wanted and like just 0:06:54.600 --> 0:06:58.760 sort of hang out. So like he you know, he 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:00.520 was like hands on in sort of like footy, like 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:02.320 you know, we're playing sport and all that sort of stuff. 0:07:02.320 --> 0:07:05.200 But other than that, he wasn't. He wasn't. And also 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:06.960 I don't know whether you know, sometimes you think, like 0:07:07.000 --> 0:07:09.159 when you're maybe doing someone's apparent, You're like, wait a minute, 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:11.240 am I doing this because it's like been ingrained in 0:07:11.320 --> 0:07:12.840 me by my parents? Or is it just like my 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:15.400 own personality? Do I have any free will here? But 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:18.160 like he never would. He never bought as any presents ever, 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:19.960 not that that matters, like it gives a ship, but 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:22.120 it was like one of those things where you knew 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:24.160 that he didn't buy anything, like if it was your birthday, 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:25.640 it was always mums. I don't know if that's just 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:27.400 a normal thing. But then like. 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:31.200 When Dad's surprised, he's like, yeah, he got his Golden 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:34.640 I on n sixty four, and I'm like I almost 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:35.360 feel bad for mom. 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:38.560 I'm like, you've you've like done birthday presents my entire life, 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:42.640 and this is trump every single a singamore. 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:46.000 What a game Golden I was. 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:48.160 He probably like saw it written down on a list 0:07:48.160 --> 0:07:51.160 of like things to buy, and he just so it. 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:52.880 Was initially we weren't allowed to have it, and then 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:55.040 Mum went away somewhere for like a week, and then 0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:59.680 Dad's like, Dad's gone, nah, he's not even a game. 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:01.320 I don't know what possessed him to do it, but 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:03.119 he just maybe there was like heaps of hype around 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:05.120 it then I don't know, but like he was just like, no, 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:06.800 fuck that, we're getting gold night, and he just came 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:08.960 back with it, and I was like, are you serious, dude, 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:10.240 this is like the best thing ever? 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:15.720 Was it a pretty like obvious good cop bad cop MP? 0:08:15.800 --> 0:08:19.080 Well yeah, like not necessarily bad cop, but definitely like 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:21.840 if you wanted it. If it was like if you 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:24.200 want high level clearance to do anything, it's like we 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:28.280 go to mum and then if you're being bad, then 0:08:28.320 --> 0:08:29.400 it's like Dad comes in. 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:30.560 Yeah, that comes in. 0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:31.800 Dad comes in and just. 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:33.960 Like raises his voice and you're like, oh. 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:34.200 Shit, I know. 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:34.800 It's funny. 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:36.839 Like it was the other way around from my parents' 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:39.839 Dad was like never really raised his voice, but when 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:40.600 Mum yelled, it. 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:43.040 Was like fuck, yeah, you really fucked up. 0:08:45.280 --> 0:08:47.040 My parents have some pipes on them when they want to. 0:08:48.880 --> 0:08:50.760 You're in Baptist then for university? 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:54.000 Yes, yeah, yeah, it was in there, went there maybe 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:55.559 a couple of years after school, like I didn't know 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:56.319 what I wanted to do. 0:08:57.120 --> 0:08:57.800 What you study? 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:03.000 I studied commercial radio communication, commercial radio. Yes, so my 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:05.840 cousin who you know, Sarah, she did it and she 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:08.720 was always raving out like Christmas come back and it 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:10.520 was just about fun it was. And I was like 0:09:11.640 --> 0:09:14.840 I tried UNI for two weeks, like straight out of school. 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:18.640 My girlfriend at the time was like her grandparents almost 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:20.160 like pressured me into it, like go, you got to 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:22.080 go to UNI. They were like a real high functioning family. 0:09:22.120 --> 0:09:23.520 And I'm like, all right, I'd all go and do 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:27.320 a business degree at the Australian Catholic University like my 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:30.720 my u ai ATA whatever the hell was called u 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:37.760 T I like it. It's changed now. But yeah, that 0:09:37.840 --> 0:09:41.199 didn't get me much. So I tried to do business 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:43.360 for a couple of two weeks and then it was 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:45.880 like I hate this place, and then it's two weeks 0:09:45.920 --> 0:09:47.400 to get out before you have to start paying. 0:09:48.280 --> 0:09:52.040 A couple of years later, I was like, let's do something. 0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:53.600 Let's try to do something. And then I had a 0:09:53.600 --> 0:09:55.320 maid who was already up in Bathist, and so went 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:58.280 up there did commercial radio, which was funny as well, 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:02.560 right like unis like it's great. I loved it. But 0:10:03.200 --> 0:10:05.680 they were like, you know what the future of audio is, guys, 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:09.920 digital radio. And I'm like, okay, sweet. So we're all 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:10.800 liked and they're like, guess what. 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:12.800 One day digital radio is going to be in cars, 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:16.000 They're going to be in your fridge and like so 0:10:16.040 --> 0:10:17.480 you're like, you know what I mean. 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:19.480 So you're like you're learning all this stuff and then 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:22.240 you leave and it's like, oh, podcasting and like digital 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:24.720 radio is a form of it, but like podcasting was 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:27.480 the future. Yeah, but Bathist was great. 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:28.880 You go back to you and you're like, do you 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:32.520 guys have anything to say for this massive up? 0:10:32.640 --> 0:10:34.880 Yeah? 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:36.880 Yeah, don't mean you're like a pioneer though, Like do 0:10:36.960 --> 0:10:38.520 they want to invite you back to be like hey, 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:41.319 speak to the keys like I. 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:43.920 Think actually at one point we were I don't know 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:45.920 if we were asked to. We spoke to someone from 0:10:45.920 --> 0:10:48.920 the UNI about going back to speak and I don't 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:51.440 know whether there was an inquiry about whether they were like. 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:53.040 There was some conversation about it. 0:10:53.480 --> 0:10:56.319 I don't know whether, like i'd be, there are much 0:10:56.360 --> 0:10:58.160 more qualified. 0:10:57.559 --> 0:11:02.480 People talk yourself down to advocate, were there, like you know. 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:06.880 I mean all those boys, well one of them does 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:09.240 have a kid, now that'd be great. 0:11:10.480 --> 0:11:14.360 And you met ed Yes Eddie, yea Eddie. Sorry for 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:17.559 those listening. Eddie is your podcast co host on Hello Sport. 0:11:17.679 --> 0:11:18.040 Correct. 0:11:18.160 --> 0:11:20.080 Do you remember what was that first? 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:20.280 Like? 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:22.400 It was it walking into the same class and you 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:24.559 guys sat next to each other and loved blossomed. 0:11:24.640 --> 0:11:26.080 No, so we had a little bit more of a 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:28.400 relationship than that. So he was in my brother's year 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:31.400 at school, but I thought he was someone else, Like 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:33.439 he looked heaps like this other guy in their year. 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:36.480 I thought you guys are brothers originally when a lot 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:37.880 of people do, or a lot of people just think 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:39.640 that one of us is the other one no one. 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:41.959 I feel like you start to when you spent enough 0:11:42.000 --> 0:11:43.960 time with the co host, everyone starts to think that 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:44.840 we're brothers. 0:11:44.559 --> 0:11:46.640 Now, And I'm like, when you grow a mustache and 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:51.880 put a hat on, just actually it happened, and we then. 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:54.160 We talk exactly the same now as well, like it's 0:11:54.360 --> 0:11:56.040 but so he was in my brother's you're at school, 0:11:56.080 --> 0:11:57.880 I thought he was a guy called Jack keeping shout 0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:02.520 out to Jack. And then once we went to UNI, 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:05.360 we both started at the same time, and it was 0:12:05.400 --> 0:12:06.600 just you know, when you're there and you're like, well, 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:08.480 we both know no one here, so let's just like 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:10.640 on the first day we're just sort of like yeah, 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:13.839 and then just he's like the funniest dude. And he 0:12:13.920 --> 0:12:16.480 was like, he says, he's like I never thought I 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:18.240 was funny, or like no one had ever like thought 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:20.320 I was funny. Wasn't something where I was like something 0:12:20.360 --> 0:12:23.360 security like I'm not funny, but I I just thought 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:25.200 like the way he was, the way he would say, 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:27.280 so I was like, this is just the funniest person ever. 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:30.440 And so that was sort of just how we started 0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:30.880 getting on. 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:33.839 That is fucking beautiful. It's like Brussels Sprout being like, 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:35.800 no one's going to think I'm delicious, and you're like, 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:37.240 I do. 0:12:37.800 --> 0:12:39.319 I love him sput. 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:44.680 And so then at this point was Steph who was 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:46.360 your wife? She in the mix. 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:49.920 She was I met her when I was nineteen oh 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:51.319 and she was seventeen. 0:12:51.440 --> 0:12:52.600 Again in my brother's year. 0:12:53.720 --> 0:12:56.600 Let's not tell the cops that. 0:12:57.000 --> 0:13:01.800 Yeah, I wanted to judge here one hundred percent leater. Yeah, 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:03.360 I'm gonna have my lawyership. 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:07.520 But no, So she was in year twelve. I just 0:13:07.559 --> 0:13:08.120 finished school. 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:12.400 There, he does put it that way. Yeah, she was five, 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:18.080 so she was friends with my brother a year below me. 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:21.920 And again like she knew me more than I knew her, 0:13:22.040 --> 0:13:24.960 just because like you know, and then I met her 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:26.320 at a bar. I met her at the Oak in 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:26.880 Double Bay. 0:13:27.600 --> 0:13:29.000 That was like where we first hooked up. 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:31.680 So you were back from Bathist. No, this was. 0:13:31.720 --> 0:13:34.280 Before I went, So I didn't go to Bathist. 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:37.920 I was like twenty one, twenty. 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:40.600 Old man, I film like that. 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:47.679 Everyone's like, are studio. So yeah, I met her when 0:13:48.080 --> 0:13:51.400 when like first year out of school, and then we 0:13:51.400 --> 0:13:53.400 were basically together since we broke up for a year 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:57.000 and a half. Because it seems like probably a smart 0:13:57.000 --> 0:13:58.600 thing to do, to be honest, but I was like, 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:01.559 I just was a great boyfriend. 0:14:01.600 --> 0:14:02.800 You know, I don't believe that. 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:05.400 Yeah, but you know, like when you're young and it's 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:07.600 like I'm going away to UNI every day, Like it 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:12.360 just was a realistic everywhere I'd imagine that's a pretty 0:14:12.400 --> 0:14:16.280 hard environment to maintain because you're doing a long distance Yeah, 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:21.160 and batist is you Yeah, And like, genuinely it wasn't it. 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:22.840 It was nothing to do with like, oh, there's heaps 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:24.360 of girls up there. It was just more that, like 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:28.520 I liked fucking off, like just being silly, having fun, 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:30.440 having big nights doing that, and then you come back 0:14:30.440 --> 0:14:32.280 to Sydney and you're wrecked from the weekend. That's when 0:14:32.320 --> 0:14:34.360 we went to hang out, and I was like, and 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:36.040 she's a very intelligent person who. 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:38.200 Had like Eddie getting the best version of you. 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:41.720 Yeah, yeah, he's probably still. 0:14:43.920 --> 0:14:46.440 My wife says, everyone gets fun time ash, but then 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:47.920 you're just sad. 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:52.520 Timing wise for the breakup, was was a little bit tricky. 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:55.200 Yeah, it was. I was wed booked a holiday to 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:58.400 Bali with Eddie and his missus who's now his wife, 0:14:58.480 --> 0:15:03.360 and then another and here's missus Stilson and his wife beautiful. 0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:06.560 It's just like three couples. Everyone's rock solid. 0:15:06.640 --> 0:15:09.920 Two weeks before we go, she dumps me, which is 0:15:10.000 --> 0:15:13.160 just a great I love the term dumping. I dumped. 0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:16.760 It must have been pretty serious because you've got flights booked, 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:19.360 like fully serious and she's like yeah, and then I'm 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:20.400 like rattled. 0:15:20.600 --> 0:15:23.000 And she was the most depressing part of it because 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:25.000 she was she was going with her mum the start, 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:27.000 and then after like a couple of weeks of her mom, 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:28.760 it was like we're all going to meet up at 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:29.880 this like villa or something. 0:15:30.240 --> 0:15:32.520 And then so she dumps me and then it's like 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:33.880 we can still go if. 0:15:33.800 --> 0:15:39.960 You want, no way, yeah, like this is the most 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:42.520 embarrassing we've paid for it. Yeah. No. I was like 0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:44.720 fuck that, I'm just going to move my flight, and 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:47.520 so I moved it. I just fully gate crashed my mate. 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:50.560 It's holiday with his entire family and like all of 0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:54.200 their partners and and kids and all that sort of stuff, 0:15:54.240 --> 0:15:56.200 and I'm like, dude, I'm coming with your family. He's 0:15:56.200 --> 0:16:00.040 like right, oh, He's like he's like a super hot dude. 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:03.640 And we get over there, and any night we went out, 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:05.760 there's like two seconds and he'd have just chicks all 0:16:05.800 --> 0:16:07.760 over him. And I'm you know, like if you've been 0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:09.440 in a relationship a long time and then you break up, 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:11.080 you're like, I don't know what. 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:15.520 But also they could smell the desperate they could. 0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:16.680 Smell it, and they could see it you know. 0:16:17.520 --> 0:16:17.760 It was. 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:22.880 Balley and it's hot, right fucking Bali, And we're going 0:16:22.920 --> 0:16:24.720 to Coot a nightclub, and I went, you were in 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:28.080 super bad when mclovin is like dressed in a fucking 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:35.080 shirt and pants evance. Everyone in this nightclub is in 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:38.200 bodies and singlets and I've got I've got Chino pants 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:41.280 on it and a linen shirt and braces even in 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:43.200 like he's just emboardies and ship and I'm like, I 0:16:43.280 --> 0:16:43.720 rock up. 0:16:43.600 --> 0:16:46.280 And I'm like, oh, you're just sweating. 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:50.040 So bad. And his old man came with us as well, 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:51.680 so I hung out with this with his dad the 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:53.680 whole time. His dad left and I just walked down 0:16:53.680 --> 0:16:54.280 by myself. 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:58.560 It was so bad, so bad. 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:01.040 It wasn't like I think that would have made that 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:07.320 worse is if you saw Steph. 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:09.520 No, that would have been tough. Didn't go at the 0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:14.000 same time, when did you rekindle? We sort of kept 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:16.159 in touch, like she was kind of messing with me, 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:18.320 but she'd always like call me out of the blue 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:20.880 or like when the mates like what's gone, and I'm like, yo, 0:17:21.600 --> 0:17:24.399 you dump me. I had an awful time in Bali. 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:27.200 Let's not don't keep calling me here. 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:31.639 Like but also as good. But the core that was 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:35.720 attaching you and Steph together wasn't entirely cut like. 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:39.320 I always sounds corny. I always felt like we'd get 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:41.240 back together, like I was. It always felt I don't 0:17:41.280 --> 0:17:45.880 know why, And I wasn't really like entertaining like relationship 0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:47.880 like girlfriends or anything like that. I was just sort 0:17:47.880 --> 0:17:53.640 of like, yeah, well because yeah, there was no chance 0:17:53.680 --> 0:17:58.159 of another relationship. But yeah, So I think it was 0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:00.320 like a year and a half. I actually went. 0:18:00.280 --> 0:18:04.880 A band Drifts. 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:13.199 Tr f F played the drums, and I think she 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:15.560 saw that was like, he's pretty hot. 0:18:16.520 --> 0:18:17.520 That was not a good thing. 0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:23.640 Thinking should we start a dad bad singing like Frozen song? 0:18:23.680 --> 0:18:25.720 We could call it bad Ham. I think that's a 0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:31.320 great man. I've already got this mapped out for this guy. 0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:33.200 It sounds like you've actually been planning that. 0:18:34.119 --> 0:18:36.760 We rang here today, ranging here today. 0:18:36.960 --> 0:18:39.280