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Speaker 1: Welcome to a bonus episode today, very special one for

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Speaker 1: Matt Na.

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Speaker 2: He is a friend of ours, friend of the show.

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Speaker 2: He's a girl dad Matt, so right up here, Ali.

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Speaker 1: He's also a co host on a very popular sports

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Speaker 1: podcast called Hello Sports.

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Speaker 3: It is the home of unqualified opinion and unwavering Bias,

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Speaker 3: a celebration of great Australian pastime that is talking about sport.

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Speaker 3: Big fan of podcast Hello Sport. I absolutely love it.

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Speaker 3: Big found of his work. We met Tom over in Vegas.

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Speaker 3: We were there recently. I'm sure people are fed up

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Speaker 3: of us talking about Vegas, but we were there and

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Speaker 3: I thought we need to get him on.

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Speaker 1: And he's a very very funny man. Which fun fact,

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Speaker 1: his dad, Billy Okay Billy, is also known as the

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Speaker 1: twelfth the twelfth Man, so dating back to the eighties

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Speaker 1: there was a few albums released by a very funny

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Speaker 1: man making and poking a lot of fun at Australian

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Speaker 1: cricket commentation.

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Speaker 3: I wish my mum was here because my absolutely loses

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Speaker 3: her ship over the twelfth Man. If she had met Tom,

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Speaker 3: he wouldn't have met it out here in one piece.

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Speaker 2: She's a man.

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Speaker 3: She would have absolutely had away with him. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's a great chat and he's absolutely hilarious and just

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Speaker 3: towards the end, don't mind the fact that we get

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Speaker 3: interrupted with the Nursey comes in and gives us ivy drips.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we start s learning a bit. We're tired.

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Speaker 1: That was to purpose back up, So enjoy.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back to three doting dads. I'm Mattie, Jay Match,

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Speaker 4: and I'm Tom. Now normally we don't give advice. Today

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Speaker 4: Tom may be different. Will you have advice to give?

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Speaker 3: No pressure, no pressure on the advice.

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Speaker 5: I may give advice, depends how the conversation goes. I

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Speaker 5: also am like I hate getting given advice, well by

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Speaker 5: certain people. It depends who like you get advice from.

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Speaker 3: This may be surprised to some people because you don't

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Speaker 3: look like a man who's grown up in Bathist.

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Speaker 2: I didn't grub on Batist. There we go, There we go.

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Speaker 3: That makes a lot of sense. You went to Union.

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Speaker 3: I went to Union.

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Speaker 5: Bathst's too handsome for battle, Thank you so much. No,

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Speaker 5: I went to Union Bathtist. I grew up in barrel.

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Speaker 2: Same thing.

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Speaker 3: No, it's absolutely no disrespect to Bathists.

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Speaker 2: Start with a bee.

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Speaker 5: That's true.

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Speaker 3: They're eating caviar and lobster every morning.

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Speaker 2: They are now they weren't.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, No Barrel was lovely. It's changed a bit now

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Speaker 5: it's like full wedding destination. Southern Highlands. You know it's

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Speaker 5: almost called Southern high you know, no one but sounds

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Speaker 5: to be like Barrel.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Southern go out in the Highlands, South Wales, Southern Isghlands.

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Speaker 5: Yes, but No Barrel was mad. I really enjoyed growing

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Speaker 5: up there. Left there when I was like fifteen or sixteen,

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Speaker 5: but batist Uni, which was a really nice way to

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Speaker 2: I've only ever been out there once and it was

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Speaker 3: What were you there for?

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Speaker 2: Never your mind?

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Speaker 1: I was there for a good night, right, and I

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Speaker 1: look forgive me if we're wrong, but your dad, yes,

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Speaker 1: the twelfth Man correct, and obviously you live with that

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Speaker 1: in Barrel. For those who don't know who the twelfth

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Speaker 1: Man is, it's a bit of a cricket parody on

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Speaker 2: It was three no dude, he started in the eighties.

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Speaker 3: Holy shit, right, like it was kind of cultish, how like, yeah,

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Speaker 5: He was Basically he took the piss out of the

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Speaker 5: He was like sometimes I don't it was normal for

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: Like, so he was way bigger than I actually really ever.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but did people did he have that notariety because

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he was, well, he wasn't like he definitely wasn't

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Speaker 2: It wasn't like dance moves like he can move.

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Speaker 5: The man can move. Yeah, he wasn't. He definitely had

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Speaker 5: My kids were like didn't know it, like we didn't

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Speaker 3: To your house to pick up and made he's been

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, there's a bit of that stuff. But again,

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Speaker 2: And it was he like was he like a really

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Speaker 1: And do you recall what his parenting style was like

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Speaker 5: It was hands off. He was pretty chill, like you

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Speaker 2: A strange lifestyle because he just didn't.

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Speaker 5: Work likeuse in he worked, but he would do like

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Speaker 5: like he never would. He never bought as any presents ever,

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Speaker 5: I'm like, you've you've like done birthday presents my entire life,

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Speaker 2: What a game Golden I was.

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Speaker 2: My parents have some pipes on them when they want to.

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Speaker 3: You're in Baptist then for university?

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Speaker 5: I studied commercial radio communication, commercial radio. Yes, so my

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Speaker 3: People talk yourself down to advocate, were there, like you know.

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Speaker 1: And you met ed Yes Eddie, yea Eddie. Sorry for

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Speaker 5: Correct.

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Speaker 3: Do you remember what was that first?

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Speaker 5: I was like twenty one, twenty.

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Speaker 3: Timing wise for the breakup, was was a little bit tricky.

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Speaker 5: embarrassing we've paid for it. Yeah. No. I was like

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Speaker 2: But also they could smell the desperate they could.

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Speaker 5: Balley and it's hot, right fucking Bali, And we're going

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Speaker 2: It was so bad, so bad.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't like I think that would have made that

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Speaker 3: Like but also as good. But the core that was

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Speaker 3: That was not a good thing.

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Speaker 2: We could call it bad Ham. I think that's a

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Speaker 5: We rang here today, ranging here today.

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Speaker 3: So how old are you at this at this time? Dude?

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Speaker 5: It was or an accident? It was in the hands

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Speaker 5: It was like was it going to happen? Like it wasn't.

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Speaker 5: We weren't married, not that that matters, but I think

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Speaker 5: just forget that, like shit, You're like fuck it, yeah,

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Speaker 5: let's do it. And then we had a scare flack

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Speaker 3: That's going to ruin the ey. Dude. I have no idea,

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Speaker 1: Apparently, it's very similar to ap to our firstborn we

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Speaker 5: like I can't now, and I'm like, oh shit, yeah right,

440
00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,280
Speaker 5: and then she goes in the bathroom. She's like, oh fuck.

441
00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:31,359
Speaker 5: And in Greece, the pregnancy test to like switch like

442
00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,359
Speaker 5: a plus is do you want a plus or like

443
00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,960
Speaker 5: a plus plus means you're not pregnant or something. She's like,

444
00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:43,959
Speaker 5: oh wait a minute. So that was like so we

445
00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,119
Speaker 5: had opened our like sort of minds to just like

446
00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:48,320
Speaker 5: but we were open to it.

447
00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,679
Speaker 3: I don't know when Laura first found out she was

448
00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:55,240
Speaker 3: pregnant and that time we that baby didn't go full term.

449
00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,520
Speaker 3: We lost it really early on, but there was a

450
00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,399
Speaker 3: moment where you're like, okay, like now, from this moment on,

451
00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:02,280
Speaker 3: I'm like I'm about to be a dad, and you

452
00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:06,320
Speaker 3: start your imagination just runs with it. Well, you in Greece,

453
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:07,400
Speaker 3: going okay, this is.

454
00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:09,280
Speaker 5: Was there only one day, wasn't it? It was, yeah,

455
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,359
Speaker 5: it was. The imagination was going well for like three

456
00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,680
Speaker 5: and a half hours were what we were out like

457
00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,920
Speaker 5: at like this nice place having dinner, like a nice view,

458
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:20,720
Speaker 5: and we're sitting there.

459
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,359
Speaker 2: Like holy shit, oh my god, this is happening.

460
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,280
Speaker 5: And then walking around the streets and just she's holding

461
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,239
Speaker 5: her belly and like we're looking at and like you know,

462
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,840
Speaker 5: going shopping or something. And then we get back.

463
00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:30,520
Speaker 3: Buying prams already yeah exactly.

464
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then we get back and she's like, I'm

465
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:33,520
Speaker 5: just going to do another one to make sure, and

466
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:34,800
Speaker 5: then she does, and then she's looking on the box

467
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:36,640
Speaker 5: and we're like it's all in Greek, and then we're

468
00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:38,200
Speaker 5: doing the translated thing and she's.

469
00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,359
Speaker 2: Like, oh, oh shit, I'm not pregnant here.

470
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,880
Speaker 5: And that was kind of like a relief, yeah, because

471
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:46,080
Speaker 5: we were sort of open to it. And then it

472
00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:50,280
Speaker 5: was like yeah, that n so. But it wasn't that

473
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 5: long after. It was probably six months after that, Yeah,

474
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,119
Speaker 5: we're back from Europe. Yeah, well it was maybe a

475
00:21:56,240 --> 00:22:01,159
Speaker 5: year later actually, because then I we found out she

476
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 5: was pregnant, and like around this time then like a

477
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,920
Speaker 5: couple of months before, so like the end of twenty nineteen,

478
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,920
Speaker 5: I got made redundant from my radio job.

479
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 2: Shout out to Macquari Sports Radio and.

480
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:16,959
Speaker 5: Then it was Bushfires and it was COVID and then

481
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 5: I was like laboring. I was just like, oh my god,

482
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 5: what the fuck is going on here? Understandably she was

483
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,200
Speaker 5: stressed because she's again like what the fuck is going

484
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,200
Speaker 5: on here? I was just always felt like it'd work out.

485
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,480
Speaker 5: I don't know that, and again like blind optimism, but

486
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 5: yeah to hell, yeah, it's such a mad thing. Like

487
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 5: right after I got laid off from the radio thing,

488
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,760
Speaker 5: COVID hit, I was laboring. Then you couldn't labor anymore

489
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 5: because it was like you couldn't be around people. Then

490
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 5: a made of mine was like, my mates have pivoted

491
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 5: their business to selling sanitizers masks, and like they were

492
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 5: a beauty business. Yeah, so they're starting like this other business,

493
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 5: where do you want to come and sell sanitize and shit?

494
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,639
Speaker 5: And I was like, never sold a thing in my life.

495
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:02,119
Speaker 5: Sure did that for a year, making no money, but

496
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,160
Speaker 5: like it was just enough to get it was almost funny,

497
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:05,479
Speaker 5: and we talk about it was like the happiest time

498
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,360
Speaker 5: in our life as well, like there was was just

499
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 5: super chilled and a new baby. You're all locked inside

500
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 5: and it was just being locked in. I don't mind it, dude,

501
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 5: like just suck when you're in there. But anyway, I

502
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 5: did that for a year and then at the end

503
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,160
Speaker 5: of that year, we were basically the podcast was making

504
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 5: just enough money to pay me exactly the same, and

505
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 5: she was like, why don't you just do it? Why

506
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:27,639
Speaker 5: don't you just have a crack, And I was like,

507
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 5: if I was in a radio job where I'm getting

508
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 5: paid more money, that was like stable, Like I don't

509
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 5: know if I would have ever had the nuts to

510
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 5: like just just get rid of all that and like

511
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 5: put us under pressure.

512
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,120
Speaker 3: Sometimes you need a little like push on the sho.

513
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,239
Speaker 5: To give you a push to, and she gave you

514
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 5: a push. She was like, just do it, just have

515
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,640
Speaker 5: a crack. Try for a year and if it doesn't work,

516
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 5: then whatever, but at least you's like you aren't die

517
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 5: wondering and exactly right when she found out that she

518
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 5: was pregnant for real this time with ev with Eis.

519
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 3: I always say that as an adult, there is no

520
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 3: bigger change in your old life then having a child

521
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 3: and starting a family. How did you prepare for that? Yeah,

522
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 3: like not much.

523
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 5: You're sort of just trying to mentally get your head

524
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 5: around it. But you can't. Like there's there's preparation from

525
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 5: like a operational you know, let's get the house in order,

526
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 5: let's get a room, let's go to a baby expo

527
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 5: and become an manager real quick.

528
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:23,640
Speaker 6: Yeah.

529
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then like once the baby.

530
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,920
Speaker 2: Comes, you're like, oh, okay, Like O me for what

531
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:31,479
Speaker 2: this was.

532
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 5: So we're both pretty relaxed or I'm I'm very relaxed.

533
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 5: She's she's a bit of both. She's like the right

534
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 5: amount of not relaxed because to counteract my backness not

535
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 5: a word, but so it was. I don't remember it

536
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 5: being very stressful. It was just sort of the initial

537
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 5: like finding out was stressful. Telling our parents were stressful,

538
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 5: it was like, but then it was exciting. It was

539
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 5: kind of like well, yeah, like what else are we

540
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,360
Speaker 5: doing here? Like we've been together for so it long

541
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:07,399
Speaker 5: and like yeah, she don't get off the pot. Yeah,

542
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 5: and I always wanted to have kids. I mean thirty.

543
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 5: I think I was thirty when V was born, Like

544
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,679
Speaker 5: it's not young, but I'm like, I also kind of

545
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,880
Speaker 5: want to. I prefer to be on the younger side

546
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 5: generally speaking. So I was like, yeah, let's just do it.

547
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, well we've already done it.

548
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:28,880
Speaker 3: Was she an easy baby?

549
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, super easy. I gotta love that, Like it's super easy, Like,

550
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:38,439
Speaker 5: you know, nobody should ask your wife that question. I

551
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 5: was talking to about it the other day or yesterday

552
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 5: because I was coming over no, no, no, but I was

553
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,360
Speaker 5: like I was asking her about like trying to wrack

554
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 5: my brains around.

555
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,439
Speaker 3: Like it does become quiet. Like the newborn phase for

556
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 3: me is like my the newborn phases.

557
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 5: Well, her birth was really bad.

558
00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:01,959
Speaker 2: Her birth was forty two hour labor, and like, how

559
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 2: many kids was she haven't?

560
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,640
Speaker 5: I know, yeah, forty two. So I was like, over,

561
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 5: what's that a couple of days and then trying to

562
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 5: remember how it happen to all back as well in

563
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 5: those awful seats that have to sit on.

564
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 2: That, and then eventually real, yeah, that's really well, and well.

565
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 5: I was sleeping on the floor. I was actually it

566
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 5: sounds so stupid. It was in like there was a

567
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,919
Speaker 5: like a thing in the hallow sport world that was

568
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,199
Speaker 5: popping off, Like there was something that I had to

569
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,199
Speaker 5: like tend to. So being in the hospital, I'm just

570
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,679
Speaker 5: laying on the floor to eventually, after like thirty somehow

571
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 5: she got given an every drill, they gave her something

572
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 5: to sleep, and I'm laying on the floor in the hospital,

573
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 5: went screenshotting people like just making content being like this

574
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 5: is the most inappropriate.

575
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 1: Right now it is, but also likes your job.

576
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's forty forty hours.

577
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 5: Well it's a long time. It's a long time. After

578
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 5: like forty hours, and it was she had and it's

579
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 5: maconiums like they pooh inside like they do their first

580
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 5: pooh and they're inside. Came out and she was like

581
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 5: limp and she had like poo in her lungs and

582
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 5: so then like holy shit, they took her out straight

583
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 5: away and like she wasn't crying, she was just like

584
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 5: looking at her like it was really intense. Fifty doctors

585
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 5: in the room. They dragged her straight over to a bed,

586
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 5: jammed like a tube down her throat like sucking everything out.

587
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 3: Do you remember, like what were you thinking at that stage? Dude?

588
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 5: Again, I was like I was just looking at all

589
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 5: the doctors and I was like, obviously, like something needs

590
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 5: to be done here, but like, but I can't do

591
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 5: anything like that. I was just like, how stressed are they?

592
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 5: Like how much is this just what they do and

593
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 5: this is a thing that happens and how much of

594
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 5: this is a like holy fuck if we don't like

595
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,400
Speaker 5: And I just felt like Steph was wigging out. Steph'smum

596
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 5: was in there, wigging out, and I was just like,

597
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 5: I think it's all good. I think they're just needing

598
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 5: to do this. And again, blind optimism. I was just like,

599
00:27:58,680 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 5: I think that I think we're sweet. Like the was

600
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 5: it's a hairy but the way they came in, the

601
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 5: way they let this thing play out for so long,

602
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 5: I was like they must have known this is a possibility, right,

603
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 5: like yeah, they and they weren't like they didn't go,

604
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 5: we're going to make it, give you a C section.

605
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 5: It was like they just let it play out. So

606
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 5: I was just like I was just optimistic. I was like, Okay,

607
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 5: I think we're all good and events and we weren't

608
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 5: obviously we were sweet, but yeah it was. It was

609
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,360
Speaker 5: very intense, certainly for Steph, like that's one of those

610
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 5: things where our second child, Zoe was smooth easy in

611
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,719
Speaker 5: a bath in the hospital, like really nice, She's like

612
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:31,880
Speaker 5: that heeled her.

613
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 3: Were you in the bath, I.

614
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 5: Was sitting like in the on the side of the

615
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 5: I was there feeding the human soup. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

616
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 5: I was feeding watching that one was.

617
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 3: I am assuming that wasn't your call for the bath.

618
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 3: That was your wife. That was.

619
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 5: Bubble bath. No, that was Steph. She was she really

620
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 5: wanted to do it. I was like the thing that

621
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 5: I was, I didn't. I don't like that he was

622
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 5: doing it at home. I've got a lot of people

623
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 5: that do it at home birth, and that to me

624
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 5: just I'm like, I'd prefer something go south to just

625
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 5: be exactly where you don't have to clean up. No,

626
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 5: that's also something, but I'm prepared to look, I'm prepared

627
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 5: to clean up if it means it's a fucking doctor there.

628
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 5: But anyway, I jumped forward to the second berth. So

629
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 5: e was Eve was That was the hardest part of it,

630
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 5: otherwise the baby shit and like she was pretty sweet,

631
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 5: like to the point where obviously, like every kid is,

632
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 5: you know, you have nights where they don't sleep but

633
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 5: for the most part I was racking my brains trying

634
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 5: to think about like a tantrum or a big thing, Like,

635
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 5: there's just nuts she's been. That's pretty chill.

636
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 3: We Marley was a dream child to the point where

637
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 3: we were like, what what are parents complaining about? This

638
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 3: is we We did a trip overseas when my was

639
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 3: three months old and we were just like two thumbs up, like.

640
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 5: This is easy.

641
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

642
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: Like my parents had my sister first and they were like, fuck,

643
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 1: we're good at this, and then I came along.

644
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

645
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, second one was still there. Still wasn't a sleep.

646
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 3: It was a similar case second time round.

647
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, look Zoey again, is feel pretty cruisy like she's

648
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 5: They were both very well behaved and like fun, sweet

649
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 5: love little things. So he's just more like.

650
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 1: I'll do whatever the fun I want two and a half. Yeah, yeah,

651
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: so similar to Masie and same. She's so sweet and

652
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 1: I'll just do whatever the funk I want. Yeah, and

653
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: get away with.

654
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 5: It and get away with it. Don't jump off that.

655
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

656
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 5: Oh no, I'm definitely jumping.

657
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 3: Did you did you have any like preconceived idea of

658
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 3: what kind of kids you wanted in terms of boy girl.

659
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 5: I when so we did like pop the balloon with

660
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 5: our mates find out what gender it was. I for

661
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 5: non dude. I didn't have my own car. I just

662
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 5: got laid off. But I wanted a boy. I think

663
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 5: because I am one and I felt that it was

664
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 5: going to be an easier I like, I understand and

665
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 5: I remember what it was like. It's not it's well,

666
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 5: I'm like.

667
00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 2: I'm just so stoked with girls, like.

668
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 5: They're the best.

669
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 3: Love it.

670
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 5: I We'll go again, We'll try for a third, but

671
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 5: I don't really care, like I would like a boy

672
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 5: for just a bit of you know.

673
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 3: Some different variety.

674
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, like those variety packs of the cereals.

675
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 3: It's like you have the ice ovo and then you're like, oh,

676
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 3: I want something different? What else have they got?

677
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 5: Else have we got? But no, I was just I

678
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 5: didn't have any real I was just more like healthy, happy,

679
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 5: as long as they're all good, and then.

680
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 2: They've obviously, I imagine with everyone exceed your expectations, just like

681
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 2: I'm going to say like tenfold, it's actually probably more that.

682
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 3: But yeah, are there any are there any moments that

683
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 3: you struggle with the most with young kids?

684
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say sometimes I can be a bit short,

685
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 5: like as in I can you know what I mean,

686
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 5: like your it takes a lot of patience, right, like

687
00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 5: especially sometimes sometimes you forget that they're two and four.

688
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know so quickly again that's.

689
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 5: Sort of the thing. And because they are so well

690
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 5: behaved as well, Like our girls are just a particularly

691
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 5: well I don't know what. I definitely don't think it's

692
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 5: anything we've done, like, but they're particularly well behaved. So

693
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 5: like even around you know, other kids, like you can

694
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 5: just see it. They're like they're just chillers. And then

695
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 5: there are times we're very cognizant of it. We talk

696
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 5: about it, like me and my wife, like, but there

697
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 5: are times when like you're just really like you're you're

698
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 5: like you are intolerant of like the slightest deviation from

699
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 5: like just you know, being well behaved. And then that's

700
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 5: one of those things where I like, you know, after

701
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 5: the fact, you like feel like an asshole.

702
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 2: When you've like snap or something.

703
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: So for me, Oscar was pretty tricky to kid. He's

704
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: a boy, so like he's crazy, right, and like same thing.

705
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: It's like I'll be mid snap and my wife wo

706
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: it's four Okay a huge point.

707
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, trump me on that one. Yeah you don't check me?

708
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, fuck, I get it.

709
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 5: Well, I guess maybe with work as well. My old

710
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 5: man again, like he was, he was just like he

711
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 5: didn't work, respectfully, Dad, you did work, He's like, yeah,

712
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 5: so I would always I never had the experience of

713
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 5: like a dad that would go to work every day

714
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 5: and like come back at night. So that's sort of

715
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 5: how even though like my job is very chill and

716
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 5: like I can essentially do what I want, like it

717
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 5: does require me. I do got to work every day,

718
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:32,719
Speaker 5: and I feel bad about that. Like, you know, sometimes

719
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 5: I'm like, am I working too hard? But isn't that

720
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 5: kind of what you have to do if you want

721
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 5: to be able to you know, holds and spend time. Yeah,

722
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 5: you want to go. So it's like and I'm like,

723
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 5: you don't want to miss things though as well, and

724
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 5: you want to make sure that you're around. And I'm

725
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 5: definitely around, but like that's one of those things where

726
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 5: you're sort.

727
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 2: Of I'm around too much.

728
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 3: How would the conversation go with Eddie when you're like, oh,

729
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 3: you know, we've got our own business here, which is

730
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 3: still kind of in infancy but I want to take

731
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 3: Matt leave. That conversation go down.

732
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 5: Well, luckily I was I was no longer employed for

733
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 5: the first child, so Matt leave was huge. Mate, we

734
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 5: we are he's look, he hasn't got kids yet.

735
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 3: Either.

736
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 5: It's like do whatever you want, like take as much

737
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 5: time as you need, like or just like what it

738
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 5: is is, especially with the podcast, so we recall we

739
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 5: got a few shows you do every week. It's like

740
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 5: if you're just there for those, do whatever you want,

741
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 5: like just don't go, like go and be with your

742
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 5: family or if you can't be like it's it's a

743
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 5: sort of similar approach with like holidays in a sense,

744
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 5: but it's like you want to go on a holiday

745
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 5: for for a month, like just go and we'll just

746
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 5: work it out like someone feel someone will fill in

747
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 5: or but yeah, there's no, it's not it's not really

748
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 5: something we've had to properly a bridge we've probably had

749
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,359
Speaker 5: to cross. I guess with Zoie we did a little

750
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 5: bit because it can.

751
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 3: Be hard with people who don't have kids to understand,

752
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 3: like if Ash calls me and says, I we can't

753
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 3: record today. Kids have got conjunctive artists. Then on daycare,

754
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 3: I've got to pull the pin. I get it.

755
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. No. Eddie's great with that, like

756
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 5: he gets it. He doesn't get it. He doesn't get

757
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 5: it at all.

758
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 2: He's one of those people who thinks his dog's his child.

759
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 2: But but.

760
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 5: He gets it to the point where it's like we've

761
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 5: got a very good we're friends like so it's very

762
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 5: it's very cruisy, and he knows that he's going to

763
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 5: be asking for the same thing soon enough.

764
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 3: With Laura and myself, I put my hand up and

765
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 3: say that I am a lot better now. But initially

766
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 3: I was pretty shit as a hands on parent because

767
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 3: I kind of fell into that period of you know,

768
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 3: early days, you're like, I'm kind of redundant here because

769
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 3: it's all baby in mum, you don't need me.

770
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 2: It could be any blob.

771
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I remember, like, you know, I'd wake up

772
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:54,760
Speaker 3: in the morning and I'd kind of packed my bag

773
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 3: and I'd be like, all right, see you, honey, and

774
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:58,760
Speaker 3: she's like, where are you going. I'm gonna get the gym,

775
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 3: and then you know, I'll go see nath for a

776
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 3: bit and then you know, I guess I'll come and

777
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 3: when I come home, i'd be on the phone as

778
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 3: well when she's sitting there with like a month old newborn. Yeah,

779
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 3: she had to sit me down and go, hey, you're

780
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,399
Speaker 3: a jerk. Yeah you're being a little bit shit.

781
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, how was.

782
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 3: It for you in terms of like dynamics and responsibility.

783
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 5: We've definitely had a few of those chats as long

784
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 5: as you like take the criticism for like all the

785
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 5: feedback for what it is right like then, it's always

786
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,919
Speaker 5: been pretty smooth. But there's been periods where it's been

787
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:35,240
Speaker 5: either that transition of like you can't just go out

788
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 5: and like have a good night or a big night

789
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 5: and then like the next day you completely wiped out

790
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 5: and you can't do anything. So the early days, that

791
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 5: was sort of what it was because that was like

792
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 5: the biggest transition there where it was like you can't

793
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 5: you know, your your night's out with your friends and

794
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 5: all that sort of stuff. When Zoe came along, it

795
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 5: was just about like she's on maternity le but she's

796
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 5: got two kids and then I'm working, but like trying

797
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 5: to have a bit more of a healthy world life

798
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 5: balance of being around more than the most recent one

799
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 5: was around the mental load. I don't know if you've

800
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 5: heard the mental load, and that's one that I struggle

801
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 5: with the most because my brain is token up so

802
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 5: much of my brain just is it always in work

803
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 5: like as in it's not like an excuse either, it's

804
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 5: just more that like when I when you're doing your

805
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,919
Speaker 5: own thing, when I was doing something that I didn't like,

806
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 5: like just a job with the easiest fucking thing to

807
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 5: switch off from in the world. I want to think

808
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 5: about laboring. Yeah, I'm going to dig that I didn't

809
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 5: finish moving all of those pilo like logs yesterday. Good

810
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 5: luck doing that. But so when it's your own job,

811
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 5: I've found that it consumes my thoughts like a significant

812
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 5: amount of time, and it's hard to switch off from that.

813
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 5: So then when there's like things that are needed to

814
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 5: be done around their house, they take a back seat.

815
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 5: Well it's yeah, but not even intentionally. I just forget,

816
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 5: Like my memory is just like not it's almost like

817
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 5: and again it's easy to say like, because she has

818
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 5: a million things to do as well, she's got her

819
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 5: job and then she got everything in the house. So

820
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 5: I'm not like, as I said, it's non excuse, it's

821
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 5: just like the way my brain works.

822
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: And I find that balance where you're like, Okay, I

823
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 1: need to stop thinking about work now. Yeah, and like

824
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 1: same for me, Like I left a job I hated

825
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 1: a year ago, and honestly, as soon as I put

826
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 1: my laptop down, I just did not give.

827
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 2: A shit about that.

828
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: But now same, like where always going back and forth

829
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 1: with ideas and things were going there. Sometimes I find

830
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 1: myself on my phone talking to Matt or texting Matt

831
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: or something like that when I should be like, oh shit,

832
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: hang on, I'm actually at home now.

833
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 8: Yeah.

834
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, And so that's been something. So there's there's the

835
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 5: one you get home, it's like put your phone down.

836
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 5: But then again like which I do, but then I'm like, fuck,

837
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 5: I've got a what am amazing? Well no, because it's

838
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 5: more like there's still in the content game, like there's

839
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 5: shit that needs that needs to be checked on of you.

840
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 5: I've got to like make sure our business. I am

841
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 5: more the like head of the content side of things,

842
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 5: and Eddie is a business brain. So when there's like

843
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 5: videos is this good to go? How is this is this?

844
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 5: Like I'm always having a review that ship and I

845
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 5: always find that like that all comes through at like

846
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 5: six o'clock and so I'm at home and I'm like, oh,

847
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 5: I just quickly got to go to the toilet for

848
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 5: like the fourth time, and you know what I mean,

849
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 5: like I said, is that but like I definitely try

850
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 5: to like get home, put the phone down, and be present.

851
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 5: And then in the household, it's more just like delegating

852
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 5: tasks around the house where it's like I am kitchen man.

853
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,760
Speaker 7: Like you know what I mean, Like I just pictured

854
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:42,280
Speaker 7: you with like just tongue fingers, like yeah, like Edwards

855
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 7: hand tongue hands.

856
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 5: So it's like that as an example, is like the

857
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 5: kitchen's cleanliness and operation functionality, like that's me. That's me.

858
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 5: Then it's like Steph is general household like washing and shit,

859
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:02,399
Speaker 5: and I mean she would uh like probably that's more consistent, right,

860
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 5: But so there's certain things like that around the house

861
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 5: that like we've just delegated and it's like she doesn't

862
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 5: have to worry about it. Anything to do with the

863
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 5: cars like Regio and all that sort of stuff like

864
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 5: mini things like that's me. So it's just trying to

865
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 5: find that balance off the back of her like making

866
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 5: me listen to some podcast where they were talking about it.

867
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 5: What's funny though she'll like, like you know again because

868
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 5: it affects them more like she's obviously proactively like can

869
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 5: you listen to this? This is interesting, or like it

870
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 5: might be a thing about parenting or like read this

871
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 5: or like some book about like how to raise girls.

872
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 2: That like themselves, or like not read it, but like

873
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 2: read this little bit of it.

874
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 5: But then like she sends you this podcast about the

875
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 5: mental loade and I'm like, yeah, like I'll listen to it.

876
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 2: Then I forget, and then it's like, oh did it?

877
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 5: And then I did listen to it and it's funny,

878
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 5: like there's it was this mix like had great messages

879
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:58,800
Speaker 5: in there, and like it was actually I took away.

880
00:40:58,600 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 3: From yeah, what can you teach?

881
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 5: Well, it was just more about the way to to

882
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 5: like separate household items that she had some she had

883
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 5: some funky way of like doing it with like making

884
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:09,879
Speaker 5: it a card game. I was like, we don't need

885
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 5: to do that.

886
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 8: Monopoly exactly of life go to jail, sweet.

887
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 2: Get two hundred bucks for that.

888
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 3: Did you have mates at the time they had kids

889
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 3: who would kind of.

890
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 5: Well not for the first I was the first one,

891
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 5: but now I got and so that's really good and

892
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 5: they're all really close. All of a lot of my

893
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 5: friends I've been friends with in primary school and all

894
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 5: of their all of our wives are really tight. So

895
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 5: we've got like a nice group. Not that you come

896
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 5: across like a tired individual. Could you look great? Thank

897
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 5: you so much.

898
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 3: Just want to put that out there first and foremost.

899
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 3: You're always glowing, But we just thought.

900
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 5: You're tired on the end side.

901
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh dude, yeah.

902
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 5: Look, I feel like that's life though for us right well,

903
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 5: it doesn't have to be now.

904
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,280
Speaker 2: But now that we know about the IV, about the IV.

905
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 3: But yet to the end of the day and you

906
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 3: just spent it does feel strange like, you know, one second,

907
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 3: we're talking just the three of us. Next minute Amy

908
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 3: knocks on the door, and before you know what, you've

909
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 3: got needles in your arm and you're getting five hundred

910
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 3: mills of.

911
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 5: Hartman's Hartman's compound.

912
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 3: I feel like I can't really, I know, I can.

913
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 3: I feel like I can't like get around and move like.

914
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 5: That would have been fun.

915
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 2: That would have been fun, just.

916
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 1: Go down the shops, three grown man, like we've escaped hospital.

917
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 3: Tom, Yes, you've been well. I don't know if it's

918
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 3: been something you've had at birth, you had no you

919
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 3: have no sense of smell.

920
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, I actually don't. This is a it's like a

921
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 5: bone of contention between me and my parents. I have never,

922
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 5: from my memory, been able to smell, like a couple

923
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 5: of things. I can smell like spearm in, eucalyp just

924
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 5: like really fume me sort of stuff, and it's going

925
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 5: to be right up my nose. Yeah, but like, actually no,

926
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 5: I don't know about a permanent market. But like you

927
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 5: just got to the things where you're you know, sort

928
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 5: of verting on huffing it and then so I never

929
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 5: was able to smell, but I was never ever taken

930
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 5: the doctor for it ever. And so I'm like to

931
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 5: my parents, I'm like, there could just be a fucking

932
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 5: crayon stuck up there that I don't know about.

933
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 2: Imagine if one day you just sneezed out a full red.

934
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:42,399
Speaker 3: Crayon and you're like, oh, yeah, like.

935
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 2: Those videos that you see like a colorblind person put.

936
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 3: But so did you say, like, hey, Mum and Dad,

937
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 3: just want to let you know, I can't smell a

938
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 3: single because.

939
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 5: I was always becau everyone's aways like, smell this, and

940
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 5: I'm like, I can't smell.

941
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 3: You know this.

942
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 5: Up until eighteen, say, it was reasonable for me to

943
00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 5: be like, you guys are dogs, take me to the hospital.

944
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 5: But after eighteen, once I've become an adult, I've just

945
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 5: never gone to the door. So now it's on me

946
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 5: as much as anything else. But yeah, the.

947
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,919
Speaker 3: Best thing would be the fact that changing nappies that's

948
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 3: no issue for you.

949
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 5: No issue at all. I And like that's almost because

950
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 5: woo still is not something I enjoy, you know what

951
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 5: I mean. So it's like the process is still like

952
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 5: visual still there, like I still have a bit of

953
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 5: like Jesus there's.

954
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 2: Been blind and not being able to smell, Well that would.

955
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 3: Just be the lucky ones tound.

956
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 5: But yeah, so from a smell perspective, I can't imagine

957
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 5: like what that would do, like that the waft of

958
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 5: But I'm always I'm still very put off by like

959
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 5: a massive shit, it's it's future the smells even but

960
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 5: I can enjoy it way more because it's like, oh

961
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 5: my god, this is shoes, Like is it big? It

962
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 5: doesn't smell at all?

963
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 3: Does it mean that with you and your wife, the

964
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 3: responsibility of anything toilet related falls on your shoulders?

965
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 5: Actually not And it's probably would be reasonable for it

966
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 5: to fall on my shoulders.

967
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 2: But it's just always look, it has always been a.

968
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 5: It's been a pretty even split. But like with things

969
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 5: where it's with kids related bad smells, it's even split.

970
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 2: But like we've got a cat that throws up, like.

971
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 5: There's always a key every morning you wake up to

972
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 5: like vomit somewhere that's on me, or like again, the

973
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 5: cat kills a rat that's outside, that's on you, that's

974
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 5: on me. I always so I got to clean the

975
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 5: the you know, like the bin because.

976
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: You can't smell that, but like I always get stuck

977
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: with the I can smell a poo like I've I've

978
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: just let us sit in it.

979
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 5: You can. That's the problem though, because if I'm with them,

980
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 5: if I'm with them again now they're sort of pretty

981
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 5: toilet trained, they'll tell me. But like before they could,

982
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 5: it was like she sometimes like it's one of them,

983
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 5: not a pool. I'm like, oh fuck, I haven't even checked.

984
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 5: And then they're in there and it's like like only

985
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 5: a couple of times bad. But you know when you've

986
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 5: seen them, like when there's like nappy rash for it's

987
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 5: like they've been sitting in a purse like dog shit

988
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 5: on the skins already, and you're like, I am so sorry.

989
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 5: I had no idea that was going on. It's also

990
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 5: like for myself as well, super self conscious about smelling bad,

991
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:17,760
Speaker 5: Like I can't tell if I stink.

992
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 2: I didn't want to say anything.

993
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 5: I know, well, now I know you're lying to me

994
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 5: of myself. But the thing that then I don't know

995
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 5: is like my shirts can smell like your shirt stinks,

996
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 5: I'm like, what, Like I just washed it, and then

997
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 5: it's like for some reason, the fucking shirt smells so

998
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 5: like I've always got dio on me, and I've always

999
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 5: got like I usually I've climbed, always got breath mints

1000
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,280
Speaker 5: on me, So that it's a blessing and a curse

1001
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 5: because like I know the way people speak about stinky

1002
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 5: people when I'm in the room, I'm like, they're talking

1003
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 5: about me, Like I don't I don't want to be

1004
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:59,760
Speaker 5: the stinky high school when your hormones are raging, sweaty

1005
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 5: in your mates were just like, guys, please let me stink.

1006
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 3: Can I ask about the girls? Have they inherited this gene?

1007
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 5: No? And that's actually something that's funny it's kind of

1008
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 5: almost like a wig out. When we're walking past someone

1009
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 5: it's like, oh my god, that smells great, and I'm like, ah,

1010
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 5: this is amazing, this is amazing. Thank God that it's it.

1011
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 5: But what they do do is know that I can't smell,

1012
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 5: so they fuck with me. So even You'll be like,

1013
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 5: you stink, and I'm like, bullshit, I stink like, and

1014
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 5: then I'll be the step I'm like, do I stinks

1015
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 5: with super like?

1016
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 2: I get like they will know that I don't know,

1017
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 2: so they'll mess with it.

1018
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 5: Like in the morning, they will come into bed and

1019
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 5: I'm trying to get away that you stink, and then

1020
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, so do I stink?

1021
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 3: It's like no, for the record, you smell great.

1022
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 5: Thank you so much.

1023
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 3: Again, You're welcome. I'm happy to confirm that we are

1024
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 3: now fully hydrated.

1025
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 2: I'm the most we have all.

1026
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 3: Taken in the five hundred meals of Haartman. Nurse Amy

1027
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 3: is just about to extract my needle and I am buzzing.

1028
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's good stuff of vitamin C, chock full.

1029
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 3: And I would say meeting the in laws is probably

1030
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 3: one of the most scariest parts of any relationship. But

1031
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 3: I imagine that would be even more intense if there's

1032
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 3: cultural differences to try and digest.

1033
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 5: Yes, definitely. Steph is her mum Croatian, late father Serbian,

1034
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 5: and they all none of them were born here. Steph

1035
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 5: was born here, but she didn't speak English, like that

1036
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 5: wasn't her first language.

1037
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 2: Oh wow.

1038
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 5: And so it's very like I make the joke of

1039
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 5: though that like I'm living in a foreign film whenever

1040
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 5: it's any of those sorts of But they're all pretty cool,

1041
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 5: I think because we've been together for a long time. Like,

1042
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 5: I don't know how they perceived me when I was twenty.

1043
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,479
Speaker 5: I'm sure it was different. You know, who the hell's

1044
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 5: this kid? Yeah, But as it's gone on, like we

1045
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 5: were at their place the other day, a brother's place

1046
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 5: the other day. He's a bit older, and I was like,

1047
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 5: his son's just getting engaged to a Croatian girl, And

1048
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 5: I'm like, is this sort of like you know, I know,

1049
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 5: like a lot of cultures sort of like that's what

1050
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 5: they like.

1051
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 2: I'm like, is this sort of a Croatian thing? You'd

1052
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 2: like preferred that?

1053
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 5: And he's like, ah, kind.

1054
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 1: Of yah, And if you're not Croatian, we did they

1055
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: obviously had to initiate you in some Yeah, that's.

1056
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 5: The process, like trying to get you drunk, and they

1057
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 5: were they succeeded.

1058
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 2: How do I sign up?

1059
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 5: Yeah exactly, But like it's not just about they try

1060
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 5: to get you not just drunk, but like smash like

1061
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:42,879
Speaker 5: and it's only happened, like it's only a couple of times.

1062
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 5: It's like every time you go there. But there's like

1063
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 5: when because the extended family is so big, So it's

1064
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 5: when you go to those ones and then there's like

1065
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 5: uncles you've never met.

1066
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 3: How many are we talking? Like ten twenty hundred.

1067
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,839
Speaker 5: So STEP's brother in law, it's all my sister in law,

1068
00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 5: my STEP's brother is STEP's brother's wife. It has eleven siblings.

1069
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 5: Holy shit.

1070
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 3: Wow.

1071
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 5: And then and then they all have like five kids,

1072
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 5: and it just goes on and on, and it's like, oh,

1073
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 5: you know, you know Dragon and I'm like, who who Dragon?

1074
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 5: It's like stub it's up or some shit, and I'm like,

1075
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 5: I don't remember. I'm sorry. I've got like Cuban and

1076
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:25,399
Speaker 5: I swear like there's something where it's like you've only

1077
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,240
Speaker 5: got a certain amount of like one hundred and fifty

1078
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:27,919
Speaker 5: games or something.

1079
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,439
Speaker 3: Yeah. So when you were getting initiated, like you're you're

1080
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 3: getting ready to get absolutely blind drunk, were you warned

1081
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:36,720
Speaker 3: and Steph say, hey, this is going to happen.

1082
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 5: No, I just started to pick up on the vibes.

1083
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 5: It was like, have another shot of right here. I'm like, okay,

1084
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 5: well if you have some of this whiskey, and I'm

1085
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 5: just like, all right, this is happening. I'm just going

1086
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 5: to eat a lot of food and I'm just going

1087
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,359
Speaker 5: to not say no to anything. And then yeah, not

1088
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 5: driving home.

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Speaker 2: It'd be funny if they like got your piece and

1090
00:50:58,000 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 2: then made you drive home.

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00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a realiation. Not pick me up from the prison.

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00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 3: But I'm imagining now that you've been You've been with

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00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 3: Steph for sixteen years.

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00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 3: So when someone else is joining in the family, even

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00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 3: if they are Croatian, are you now one of the

1097
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 3: people who are offering shots let's get.

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00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 5: This, certainly more inclined to be on the enabling side, sure, Dragon, Yeah, Dragon, Yeah,

1099
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 5: exactly definitely.

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Speaker 2: And Eve another white boy comes in, You're.

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00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 5: Like, yes, there aren't any.

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00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:33,720
Speaker 3: Just me. Actually might be a case of like it'd

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00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 3: be awkward if another Caucasian Australian kid from Barrel comes

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00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 3: in the family.

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00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 2: Make you have a proper drink off with him, family.

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00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:40,879
Speaker 5: And big enough.

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00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 3: And before we go, there's one last question I'd love

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00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 3: to ask you when you are an older man and old, yes,

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00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 3: because you are, you are, you're young now, but I'm

1110
00:51:55,960 --> 00:52:01,320
Speaker 3: so young right now, I'm talking like in your sixties,

1111
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 3: when you're you know, the kids have flown the nest. Ye,

1112
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 3: what would you like them to remember about the household

1113
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 3: that they grew up in?

1114
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 5: That it was fun and lively and like full of

1115
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 5: ivy drips, full of that lively I mean I and

1116
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 5: then like so when you're young, just fun right, like playing, laughing.

1117
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 5: So but then older, I liked the idea of and

1118
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 5: this is something from like Steph culture that I like

1119
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,720
Speaker 5: as well as like there's always something cooking, there's always

1120
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 5: people coming in and out, like there's steps family, Like

1121
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,720
Speaker 5: there's always family coming over or friends coming over coming

1122
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 5: going or like oh yeah, we're just here, Like I

1123
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 5: really like that energy. It's just like it's it's fun

1124
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 5: and it's it's it's I mean exciting. It's probably too extreme,

1125
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 5: but there's just something quite nice and comforting about like

1126
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 5: having everyone around each other and getting on is a

1127
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:54,959
Speaker 5: good one as well. Shout out to mom and dad.

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00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 5: We had a bit of that growing up, but a

1129
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 5: divorce would suggest we didn't have enough of it.

1130
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:09,240
Speaker 3: I shouldn't. Sorry, I came from a broken founders.

1131
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 2: My parents are still together.

1132
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 5: My parents are great. It's actually my parents actually still

1133
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 5: get on with Like we had Easter with my mum's

1134
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 5: partner and my old man came, so they're actually really good.

1135
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 5: Just being able to have that's also more kids, Like

1136
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 5: just having more people around. I think it's nice. So

1137
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 5: and if they've got somewhere to always come back to,

1138
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 5: you know, like a home base as we go off

1139
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 5: and do all your ship, but like you can always

1140
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 5: come back here. That's I think that's what I want.

1141
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 3: I love. That's cool. Very well said Tom. Thank you,

1142
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 3: Thank you for your time. Thank you for being entirely

1143
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 3: up for getting IV.

1144
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 2: Drips jab with a needle always.

1145
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,720
Speaker 3: You didn't question it. In the same what's.

1146
00:53:56,520 --> 00:54:01,800
Speaker 2: Going on Vitamin C and just mainline heroines.

1147
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, well you'll find me. I'm noted off.

1148
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:12,359
Speaker 2: He's a horn guy.

1149
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:21,840
Speaker 3: Thank you. I really enjoyed it. Sadly, that is the

1150
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 3: end of this episode, but if you have enjoyed this

1151
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 3: moment any other episode of two doating dads in our

1152
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 3: portfolio diversified portfolio ash wigs, we would love it. If

1153
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:34,320
Speaker 3: you had sent it to anyone else out there, he

1154
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 3: would need to laugh. Don't have to be parents, just

1155
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 3: as long as they're not pet parents everyone else. We

1156
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 3: would love them to join our community.

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00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:46,320
Speaker 5: Our community of ruters.

1158
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 6: Is that whatever we instead of instead of referencing you

1159
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 6: as listeners, as listeners, you're ruders because let's be honest,

1160
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 6: ruders and shagger.

1161
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're working on it. Let us. We're also listening

1162
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 3: your thoughts on.

1163
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 1: Potential as the guests for the pod or feel free

1164
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 1: to give us any kind of review as long as

1165
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 1: it's positive.

1166
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Speaker 3: No death threats on Apple podcasts, and subscribe to us

1167
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 3: set as well. We get a lot of lovely reviews

1168
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,799
Speaker 3: on Spotify Ash. For some reason, it gets emailed to me.

1169
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 3: I don't forward them onto you because I forget. But

1170
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Speaker 3: they're all bloody lovely.

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Speaker 2: I love that. I love that I don't have to

1172
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 2: read them and you'll read them for me.

1173
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 3: They're all so positive. It's a couple of bad ones

1174
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 3: about ASH, but I don't need to know there. No, no, no,

1175
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,839
Speaker 3: they're I'm joking. They're all great. They're all great. Better

1176
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Speaker 3: way great, anyway. We'll see you guys next week. Two.

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Speaker 3: Doting Dad's Podcast acknowledges the traditional custodians of country throughout

1178
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:51,360
Speaker 3: Australia and the connections to land, see and community.

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Speaker 1: We pay our respects to their elders past and present

1180
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 1: and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and torrestraight onland.

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Speaker 2: The people's today.

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