1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Just before we get started, we'd like to acknowledge and 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: pay respect to Australia's Aboriginal and torrest Rate islander peoples. 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: They're the traditional custodians of the lands, the waterways and 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: the skies all across Australia. We thank you for sharing 5 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: and for caring for the land on which we are 6 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: able to learn. We pay respects to elders past and present, 7 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: and we share our friendship and our kindness. 8 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 2: She's on the Money, She's on the Money. 9 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 3: Hello, and welcome to She's on the Money, the podcast 10 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 3: for millennials who want financial freedom. Welcome back to another 11 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 3: Shop Back Money Diary Monday, where we chat to one 12 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 3: of our gorgeous community members to learn about them, their life, 13 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 3: their money, their goals, all of the detail and juicy details. 14 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 2: Victoria. 15 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 3: One of our favorite times of the week. I would say, 16 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 3: wouldn't you What are you bringing to the table this week, 17 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 3: Jessic toy Chi. Nobody's surprised that it's a good one. 18 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 2: Our diarist roading surprise shock here. 19 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 3: Who would have thought our diarist wrote in and said, 20 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 3: I left school at fifteen, I have no unique degree 21 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 3: and I'm on my way to one. Hundred and forty 22 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 3: thousand dollars at twenty. I was about to be like, 23 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 3: how old is she? Like fifty friends, This one's going 24 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 3: to make you feel inadequate. I came from a very 25 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 3: loving and caring family where finances were never really spoken of. 26 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 3: I discovered my interest for heavy diesel mechanics back in 27 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 3: twenty eighteen, after deciding a year and a half of 28 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 3: nursing really wasn't up my alley. Fast forward nearly four years. 29 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 3: I mean, a stable, full time job, nearing the end 30 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 3: of my apprenticeship and setting bigger and bigger financial goals 31 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 3: for the years to come. I've always gone against the grain. 32 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 3: Being a heavy diesel mechanic in a very male dominated 33 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 3: industry is no easy feat. Well, this is definitely not 34 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 3: your average twenty year old money story. I'm so proud 35 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 3: of the path I have led for myself and my future. 36 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 3: It's gonna be a good one. 37 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 4: Right my gosh, money diress, welcome to the show. 38 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 5: I'm here have it going. 39 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Hi, did you just wake up one 40 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: day and you're like, I am so sick of caring 41 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: for the elderly. 42 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 4: I'm going to work on heavy machinery. 43 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 5: So what happened pretty much how it went. 44 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 4: Hey, like that's such a pivot. 45 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: I adore it. I love that, Like that's not a 46 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: bad thing at all. It's just you know, you often 47 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: see people pivot into different things and go, yeah, I 48 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: was dabbling in these, so then I decided to do it. 49 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: And she's like, not heavy machinery is where it at. 50 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 6: Well, it's like people are so rude when they're sick. 51 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 6: I'm sick of it. 52 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 4: I would like to work in a really blund industry. 53 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 5: This is it. I take my hat off to nurses 54 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 5: like I do. 55 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, very sci people. 56 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 6: I did wake up one morning and I went to 57 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 6: my mum and I was like, I'm just not feeling 58 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 6: it anymore. 59 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 5: She was like, what do you mean. I was like, 60 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 5: I'm just not feeling nursing anymore. Like I love learning 61 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 5: about the body, but people are doing my head in. 62 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 5: She was like, what are you going to do? And 63 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 5: I was like, mechanics, Stephen, mechanics. She was like are 64 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 5: you sure? 65 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: You were like yeah, yeah, I am, thanks though Mum, 66 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: I was like yeah, I. 67 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:07,119 Speaker 5: Was like pretty much. 68 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 6: So like I did everything myself, Like I called up 69 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 6: the tape I had already booked my enrolled nursing course 70 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 6: at tape Yeah. And it was about a day before 71 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 6: the course changing cut off. 72 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, census yeah. 73 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 6: And I quickly called up and I was like, can 74 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 6: I please change my top four courses to Diesel pre 75 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 6: apprenticeship and I forgot the other three, but anything to 76 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 6: do with mechanics pretty much. 77 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 5: I was like, oh, pre apprenticeships, I say, can you 78 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 5: change it? 79 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: And they were like, ma'am, are you sure you told 80 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: us the right student number? 81 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 5: Are you okay? Do you need counseling? 82 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 3: You don't? 83 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 4: I love that. 84 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: Let's learn about you. Let's do those structured questions. I 85 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: feel like we are going to talk a lot through 86 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: this episode because I feel like our pre chat was 87 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: very full of energy and I loved it, but I 88 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: feel like I need to keep us on track. All right, 89 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: money diarists, let's start. I want to know more about 90 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: your life. I want to know what your money story 91 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: is like. 92 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 6: Okay, so the money story starts as a basic you know, 93 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 6: had lived with mom and dad and my sister. We 94 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 6: had our standard four by two home, and then pretty 95 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 6: much mom and dad separated when I was nine, I think, 96 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 6: and Dad decided to keep the house, me, Mom, and 97 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 6: my sister, we all moved out, moved into a rental, 98 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 6: and it probably wasn't until then I was kind of like, ah, 99 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 6: this house is quite small. And then we moved to 100 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 6: another rental, and then we moved to another rental, and 101 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 6: I was like, something's not right here. Like I never 102 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 6: asked about money, never spoke about money. 103 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 5: It was just like oblivious to everything. 104 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 6: Like I always grew up with everything that I wanted, 105 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 6: and it was always Mum that was like you will 106 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 6: never go without. 107 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 5: Like Mom would be breaking down. 108 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 6: In the corner and she would just give me everything, 109 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 6: me and my sister everything, like we never went without. 110 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 6: And it probably wasn't until maybe I think I fifteen 111 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 6: that I got my first job and she was kind 112 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 6: of like, you know what, boo, your first paycheck, spend it. 113 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 5: This is all yours. 114 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 6: And then it wasn't until like the second one where 115 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 6: she's like, all right, with every paycheck, put like ABC 116 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 6: and D away and then spend the rest. It's all 117 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 6: it's your money. And then that's pretty much how it 118 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 6: went on. I went to do a few other different jobs, 119 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 6: did my pre apprenticeship, and then they did a few 120 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 6: other ta jobs and then landed my apprenticeship. 121 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 4: How exciting. 122 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: I feel like that would teach you a lot at 123 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: the same time as feeling like you're kind of in 124 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 1: the dark. So when you say your dad kept the house, 125 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: did he just live there by himself and you guys 126 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: were like bouncing between rentals or like, tell us a 127 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: bit more about that situation. 128 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, Dad straight up kept the house, which even as 129 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 6: like a nine year old, you're kind of like, you 130 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 6: don't need that, you don't need that, Like you don't 131 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 6: need I think the house was like I think it 132 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 6: was a full I'm pretty sure it was a four 133 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 6: by two, and I was like, you'd like, I don't 134 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 6: need that. And then Mum took us out, and like 135 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 6: I said, we went to I think it was three 136 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 6: different rentals before Mum bought this other unit. 137 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 5: And I was kind of like, why do I have 138 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 5: to keep moving house? 139 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 6: And the thing is like when Dad would pick me 140 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 6: up for the weekend, I would go back to our 141 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 6: old family home and it would all be exactly the same, 142 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 6: except all the rooms are empty and it's just me. 143 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 5: And Dad, like I would. 144 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 6: I think I slept over at my dad's place maybe 145 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 6: three times in the whole eight years that he paid 146 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 6: child support. 147 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 4: Wow. 148 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 5: Yeah. 149 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 6: And then it wasn't until he got a new missus, 150 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 6: and then a new missus and then a new missus. 151 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 6: And they would come in, they would go, they would 152 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 6: come and they would go, and then yet I'm still 153 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 6: moving from rental a rental with my mum. 154 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 5: And I was like, this doesn't make sense. 155 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 6: But I was nine years old and growing obviously, and 156 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 6: I was kind of like, you notice what it is? 157 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 6: Got a roof over my head, I'm with my mom. 158 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 6: I still go to school, e s getting to do 159 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 6: all the sports. So they want wow, lived life. 160 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: Do you feel like that has impacted you as an 161 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: adult in any way, like in terms of like where 162 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: you live and how that works. Often we find that 163 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: when we talk to people who you know, have maybe 164 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: bounced around a bit as a kid or have been 165 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: in that situation, they really prioritize owning their own home, 166 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: or they really prioritize, you know, one secure location and 167 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: don't like to move around a bit. Is do you 168 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: reckon that's something you relate to. 169 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 6: I don't think that whole aspect of it really affects me. 170 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,239 Speaker 6: I think it's more the relationship with my dad. 171 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, that affected me. 172 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 6: It was more the kind of cut it out situation. 173 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 6: I was kind of like, eh, it is what it is. 174 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 6: But like my home now is my home. I don't 175 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 6: see it as it. This is my secure place and 176 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 6: I've got to stay here and I work hard for this. 177 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 5: It's kind of like, meh, it's my home. 178 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 6: My relationship with my dad is more scarred than anything else. Yeah, 179 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 6: the home really home was just a roof over my 180 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 6: head and a I guess a structured support place for 181 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 6: my emotional breakdowns half the time. 182 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 4: But feels though, feels jes relatable content for sure, Like I. 183 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 6: Won't have an emotional breakdown at my mum's house, but 184 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 6: I'll have one at my house. 185 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 186 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 6: Fair, It's like my safe spot whenever I'm like, you 187 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 6: know what, I've just had enough of the world. You 188 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 6: can go into my bedroom or into my own bathroom 189 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 6: and deal with my problems there. But yeah, the actual 190 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,679 Speaker 6: house aspect of my parents' separation, and like the moving 191 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 6: house thing, it was hard, but like I've never really 192 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 6: taken it further on in my life apart from my 193 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 6: relationship with my dad. 194 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: Wow, it's so interesting to ask questions like that because 195 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 1: it's always so different based on who you are and 196 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: what your experiences have been before. Money Darist, you mentioned 197 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: you heavy diesel mechanic. I'm going to ask you the 198 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 1: official question though, and you can tell us money Darist, 199 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: What do you do for work and how much money 200 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: do you earn? 201 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 6: I am a fourth year apprentice heavy mobile deesel mechanic, 202 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 6: which is all your mining equipment, which is your dump trucks, 203 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 6: your excavators, scrapers, dozers, everything that's big and weighs like 204 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 6: two hundred tons. 205 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're not talking about the little dinghy that you 206 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: can hire from Bunnings. We're talking about the trucks that 207 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: are the size of two story houses, right, yeap. 208 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 6: The big stuff, the stuff that digs dirt makes us money, 209 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 6: All that good stuff, all the stuff that is extremely 210 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 6: extremely heavy. 211 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. So how much money do you am? 212 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 1: We want the nitty gritty details your fourth year apprentice? 213 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: What does your paycheck look like. 214 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 6: As a fourth year apprentice? I think I earn just 215 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 6: under ninety six thousand. That is incredible teen percent super. 216 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: Is that included in the ninety six Yeah? Oh my gosh, 217 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: No apprentice earns. 218 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 5: That No, they don't. We are very well paid apprentice. 219 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: My gosh, what could you expect to be paid once 220 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: you're not an apprentice anymore? 221 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 6: If I say where I am, I am expected to 222 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 6: be paid about one hundred and four thousand. And that's 223 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 6: part of my headline of on my way to one 224 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 6: hundred and forty thousand, which is pretty much a base 225 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 6: minimum for our mind sight. But if I want to 226 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 6: go up north, I can go to anywhere above two 227 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 6: hundred if I really want. 228 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 3: Wow, gosh, And so is your current employer? Is that 229 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 3: on location? Do you travel or you like fifo? Is 230 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 3: it me where you live? 231 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 6: It's near where I live, so I think it's about 232 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 6: a forty minute drive. 233 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 5: To and from Yeah, incredible there. 234 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, well let's than a pink hour commune to the city. Really, 235 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 2: my gosh. 236 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 5: Yes, a lot less traffic. 237 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, incredible, I can imagine. 238 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: And it's so lucky that it's so close, because so 239 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: many people who want to get into those industries often 240 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: have to be five fo Did you know that it 241 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: was going to be that close when you started applying 242 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: for jobs like this or did you go all right, well, 243 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: I'm willing to go anywhere because I feel like, that's 244 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: really niche. 245 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 6: When I was looking for apprenticeships, I was kind of like, 246 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 6: apply for anything, apply for everything. I think in the 247 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 6: end I ended up applying for like, I think it 248 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 6: was about twenty six or twenty seven apprenticeships, and most 249 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 6: like half were FIVEFO and half were like CBD, half 250 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 6: were down south kind of thing. So it was anywhere 251 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 6: and anywhere, and wherever I got an apprenticeship, I was. 252 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 4: Like, cool, we're sweet. And it ended up just being 253 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 4: close to home. How good is that? 254 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 5: It worked out perfectly? 255 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 6: Actually, I had another apprenticeship for a five fox gig 256 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:29,079 Speaker 6: and they didn't tell me. She like sent me the paperwork. 257 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 6: She was like, yeah, ABC get paid this much and. 258 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 5: Apprenticeship will consist of this. 259 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 6: And I was like, oh, where is it my any chance? 260 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 6: And she was like, I'll send you the email and 261 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 6: then once you've signed it, sent it back to me. 262 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 6: And I was like, oh, this is a bit weird. 263 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, like that's got o strange. 264 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 6: It was a FIVEFO job underground, one week on, one 265 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 6: week off, and I. 266 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 4: Was under ground and she wasn't going to tell you 267 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 4: until you signed. 268 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, I was. She didn't tell me it was underground. 269 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,719 Speaker 6: The job wasn't applied for underground, and I strictly did 270 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 6: not want underground, and she sent me this paperwork and 271 00:11:57,960 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 6: I was like. 272 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 4: Hi, no, said back this. 273 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 6: Reply, I really don't want to work underground, so this 274 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 6: opportunity is not for me. 275 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 5: Please give it to someone else. 276 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:07,439 Speaker 4: Like thanks. 277 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 3: So you think they've disclosed that, And that is why 278 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 3: friends at home, you always read your contract before you 279 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 3: sign them and. 280 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: Ask a million in questions. There's no such thing as 281 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: too many questions when starting a new job or duging 282 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: on an apprenticeship. Like it's the first time you're quote 283 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: meeting that company, so you're absolutely allowed to ask a 284 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:25,839 Speaker 1: million questions. 285 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 5: Yeah. 286 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: Absolutely, Money Doris, you have a very big income for 287 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: your age. I want to know what is your big 288 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: money goal. 289 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 6: Oh, first of all, travel, I have wanted to travel 290 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 6: to America, well, both me and my partner. I have 291 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 6: wanted to travel to America for three years close. 292 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: To good luck during the pandemic or what we're calling 293 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: the Panini here at Cheese on the money ha. 294 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, the Panine's really stuffed this up for us. 295 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 6: Another money goal is I personally want to investment properties. 296 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 6: He my partner, he wants investment poper of himself. We 297 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 6: want to build a family home. Yeah, I have a 298 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,719 Speaker 6: goal of forty thousand in the share market, which I'm 299 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:06,199 Speaker 6: nowhere near. 300 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 5: But it's a goal. 301 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 4: So oh my gosh, how exciting that is. So I 302 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 4: feel like you're really clear on those goals. 303 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: You're like, yep, want two investment properties, want a family home, 304 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: want forty thousand dollars in the share market. 305 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 4: Like that's pretty clear for a twenty year old. 306 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: Have you always had that level of clarity when it 307 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: comes to goal setting and planning? 308 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 5: Definitely not. 309 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 4: You're like, no, I just made all this, sat up 310 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 4: on the spot. 311 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 6: I didn't really really in my goal planning until maybe 312 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 6: like two years ago. I was kind of like in 313 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 6: my first year, I was like, whoa, I got money, 314 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 6: got a stable job, Let's just have some fun. I've 315 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 6: always saved, but never really had a goal like I 316 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 6: was just saving for nothing, kind of says like, oh, 317 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 6: let's just put it away and just sit there. And 318 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,599 Speaker 6: it wasn't until maybe second or third year I was 319 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 6: kind of like, oh, I could buy I could buy this, 320 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 6: I could buy that, I can afford this, I can 321 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 6: do this if I put this amount away. Because it's 322 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 6: it's a salary, so I get the same pay every fortnight. 323 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 6: So I'm like, I can actually plan, And I never 324 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 6: had that when I did casual or contract work kind 325 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:08,839 Speaker 6: of thing. 326 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 5: So now it was like, ooh, I think it was 327 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 5: after my first year. 328 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 6: I kind of pulled my head in and was like, 329 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 6: all right, you can't just keep spending all this money. 330 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: So tell us how you're going with those goals. What's 331 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: your home saving deposit? Looking like, what's the America Fund? 332 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 4: Looking like? We want the details, my friend. 333 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 6: If I'm going to be completely honest, there is no 334 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 6: holiday savings. I got ten thousand dollars in the share market. 335 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 4: Hey, that's a fourth of the way there. That is 336 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 4: very good. 337 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 5: It's better. 338 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 6: I only started investing August of twenty twenty one, so 339 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 6: I'm pretty. 340 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 5: Happy with it. 341 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 4: That's very good. 342 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 5: That's pretty much when I started listening to you, cheites 343 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 5: on the money. 344 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 4: That's like a grander month. At least, look at you. 345 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 5: It's a goal. We're getting there slowly. 346 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 6: All things kind of got turned upside down because I 347 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 6: bought a new No, I didn't buy a new car 348 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 6: like I bought a new card to me, you, to. 349 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 5: You, and it wasn't. 350 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 6: In the plan that popped up, and I was like, 351 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 6: you know what, this is an opportunity and we're going 352 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 6: to take it. 353 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 4: And I did go work. 354 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: I love that for you. I asked before do you 355 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: have any investments? And you said you have ten grand 356 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: in the share market? 357 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 4: Is that all you have? And tell us about that 358 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 4: ten grand? 359 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 6: I have my ten grand split up in between Concept 360 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 6: Pocket and Spaceship Universe. 361 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure. 362 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 4: I'd love to know a bit more about how you 363 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 4: made that decision. 364 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: So you said, look, I own these things obviously in 365 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: Concept Pocket. So for those of you who don't know 366 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: Concept Pocket, it's not a micro investing platform. It's a 367 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: proper shared trading platform. But it only gives you access 368 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: to a limited number of ETFs. So how did you 369 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: pick those ETFs? And what was I guess your criteria? 370 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: How did you get yourself to a point where you 371 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: were like, I feel confident enough to pick these and 372 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: put some money behind it, because I feel like that's 373 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: the number one hurdle that a lot of people on 374 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: She's on the Money feel They're like, okay, like I've 375 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: picked a platform, I've downloaded it. I don't know what 376 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: to pick or do. And obviously that's not what she's 377 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: on the money. We're never going to tell you what 378 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: to pick because that's so personal and that would involve advice. 379 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:08,239 Speaker 4: But what did you do? What was your thought process? 380 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 5: It all started really with the boys at work. 381 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: See, everybody has a different strategy and if you poke enough, 382 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: the holes come out. 383 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 5: It was the boys at work. They all talk like. 384 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 6: When I mean the boys at work, I don't mean 385 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 6: like twenty thirty year olds, I mean like the sixty 386 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 6: seven year olds that are still working and god knows why. 387 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 5: They were like, do you invest in the stock market? 388 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: And I was like, I'm a twenty year old female. 389 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: Thanks for assuming I do though that's progressive. 390 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 5: Yeah. 391 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 6: I was like, no, I don't. I don't even know 392 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 6: what with stock markets. Oh everyone's talking oh one cent here, 393 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 6: four cents here, and I'm like, what are you talking? 394 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 6: Like twenty dollars in my banking account? I'm killing the 395 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 6: game kind of thing. Like I had no idea, and 396 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 6: the boys always spoke about It're like, oh, get on 397 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 6: concept pocket, do this, do that? And I was like, no, 398 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 6: I don't want to. And it wasn't until I randomly 399 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 6: found cheese and the money one day and my im 400 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 6: letting your money shameless plug or whatever for him. 401 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 5: I know. 402 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 4: He never listens to our content, so you'll never know 403 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 4: that happened. 404 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 5: Well, he better otherwise I'll message him personally. 405 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you. He'll take that personally. 406 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 6: I just listened to all these podcasts and the share 407 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,719 Speaker 6: market just seems so interesting and everyone's making millions in 408 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 6: like thirty forty years, and I was like, all right, 409 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 6: maybe I can maybe a millionaire by the time and 410 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 6: retire early, like fifty. 411 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, on your income, you have absolutely every 412 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: ability to do that, my friend. 413 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 5: I did a heap of research. 414 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 6: I found think there's like seven or eight different ETF 415 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 6: groups in consext pocket. 416 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 4: Yep, And it just felt right. 417 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 6: And I started off with the Ossie Top two hundred 418 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 6: cause that's where I felt most comfortable knowing most of 419 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 6: the companies and all that and just the other three. 420 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 6: Like tech is on its way up in the world, 421 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 6: like we all we all know that it's especially in mining, 422 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 6: like we're going to go from being des mechanics to 423 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 6: sparkys in a matter of years probably. 424 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 5: So I just I just did my research. I did 425 00:17:58,280 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 5: my own personal research. 426 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 1: I love that and thank you for sharing that, because 427 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: I think so often people are like, where did you 428 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: get the magical ticket to know that that was the 429 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: EDF to buy or that was the stock that they 430 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 1: should purchase, And more often than not, there's no magical answer. 431 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 1: There's no website you go to that says this is 432 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: the best one ever. It's literally you just going, oh, 433 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 1: I feel pretty comfy with that and making a decision 434 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 1: that way. And I just I love learning your little 435 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 1: investment stories and understanding how you first got a foot 436 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,199 Speaker 1: in the market. You mentioned before you got a car. 437 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: I have some questions. Do you have any debts? 438 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 6: I sure do I have a I think that's just 439 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 6: a bit over twenty thousand at the moment, which is 440 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 6: about I think about half the car. 441 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 5: I paid just over half the car. 442 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 6: In cash with part of my savings, because, like I said, 443 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 6: this car was not planned kind of thing, and the 444 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 6: car that I was saving for was going to be 445 00:18:55,400 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 6: in like the sixty seventy thousand dollars range YEP. I 446 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 6: saw this car pop up and it was really cheap 447 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 6: for the current market. Body was in very good condition, 448 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 6: and obviously being a mechanic myself. I can fix all 449 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 6: the issues that it has with it. 450 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 4: I know nothing. 451 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 5: I knew nothing about four years ago. 452 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 4: It's amazing. 453 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 1: What investing yourself for four years in education tars It's wild. 454 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 5: It's bloody insane. I'll tell you what. 455 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 1: How exciting. So you've got twenty ish grand as a 456 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 1: car loan? 457 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 4: Is that right? 458 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah? 459 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 4: And is that it? 460 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: Do you have any hex step from when you did nursing, 461 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 1: like anything else dwindling in the background? 462 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 6: No, just the twenty thousand dollars car loan, which will 463 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,360 Speaker 6: be paid off before the end of the year, before. 464 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 4: The end of the year. Probably, Oh my gosh. 465 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 5: You'll most likely be done before the end of the year. 466 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 6: Got my partner's name is under the home loan, but 467 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 6: we are looking to refinance and my name is on it. 468 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 6: But the home loan was four hundred and seventy five thousand, 469 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 6: so we both pay half of the mortgage towards that. 470 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 5: So say, I have ABC mortgage above my head. 471 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, and like that's literally how it is. 472 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: So how much does your mortgage end up costing you 473 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: every month? For what was that four seventy five? 474 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 4: Yeah? 475 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 5: I think it's just under two grand a month something 476 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 5: like that. 477 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 6: Very cool, And I have no hex step because when 478 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 6: I was going to TAFE, I was still in the age, 479 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 6: the school age kind of thing. 480 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, so all. 481 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 6: My courses were insanely cheap. Mom was like, why didn't 482 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 6: you go to TAFTE earlier? 483 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:35,719 Speaker 5: This is very cheaper. So Mum paid all of that, 484 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 5: the absolute angel. 485 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 4: That she is, so oh how cool. 486 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: Next question, a very left field question compared to debt. 487 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 4: Do you shot back? 488 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 5: I love shot do you. 489 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 4: Actually the diversity of people on this. 490 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 1: We've got people who are like me, who are like, yep, 491 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: I love shopping online, and a diesel fitter who's like, yeah, sweet, 492 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 1: Like I am definitely here for this. 493 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 4: What do you buy and shot back? 494 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 6: My friend I just got an email this morning saying 495 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 6: your shot back has been confirmed from like two or 496 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 6: three months ago. 497 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 5: So for some car. 498 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 1: Parts I bought and you were like, thank god that 499 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 1: came through because that was a good one. 500 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 3: I feel like that's actually a really good idea because 501 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 3: I'm assuming, I mean, I know literally nothing about car parts, 502 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 3: but I'm assuming they're pretty expensive. If my like normal 503 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 3: mechanics bill, is there anything to go by? So if 504 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 3: you can get some money back on that. I imagine that 505 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 3: would be looking pretty nice. 506 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 5: It's great. 507 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 6: Like I just bought two filters for my car, which 508 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 6: you were in addition to like the oil and fuel filters, 509 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 6: and they were like eight hundred bucks. 510 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 4: What for a filter? 511 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 1: I can get a Britta filter at the supermarket for 512 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 1: much cheaper. Let me know if you want me to 513 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: pick one up next time I go to Kol's. 514 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 6: It was like a kit, so it kind of was 515 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 6: a kit and they charge just like the bracket. 516 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 5: The hopes is like all up this thing. 517 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 6: This whole kit, I reckon would have cost like maybe 518 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 6: two hundred dollars. You bought everything individually and made shit yourself. 519 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 5: But I don't do that. 520 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, that side is expensive. 521 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 6: I don't do mechanics at home because that's my job 522 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 6: and I don't like doing it at home a lot. 523 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 4: So yeah, that's that's fair. 524 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: So I reckon that might play into your worst money habit. 525 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 1: But I'm going to ask you what your best money 526 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 1: habit is. First, my friend, I. 527 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 5: Don't think I can call it like a money habit. 528 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 5: But with IG you have the roundup. 529 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, you can have a round feature. 530 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 6: So say it actually like a dollar, it will round 531 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:22,919 Speaker 6: it up to the ear is five dollars and debit 532 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 6: another four dollars to another bank account. 533 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 5: Yeah, and all my round up money goes into my 534 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 5: bills account. 535 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 6: So I think I got an email like early fed 536 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 6: and from the start of the financial year to fare 537 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 6: By saved like nine hundred and twenty seven dollars in 538 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 6: round up house bills. 539 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, how good? 540 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I saw like this email and it was like, you, 541 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 6: in like the past whatever months, you have saved nine 542 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 6: hundred and twenty seven dollars in round up. 543 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 5: And I was like, why none of that? 544 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. 545 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 3: It's fun to like reflect on that data, though, I 546 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,199 Speaker 3: really like it when businesses do that. Up does like 547 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 3: how much you spent this year and it breaks. 548 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 2: I do not like that. 549 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I don't like get knowing what you saved 550 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 3: it arguably much more encouraging than knowing what you spent. 551 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 3: But I think it's really cool to be able to 552 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 3: look at that and be like, oh, like it's actually 553 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 3: working because you wouldn't be thinking about your round ups, 554 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 3: but it's just ticking away in the background. 555 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 4: It's like the Spotify roundup of the year. Yeah. This 556 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 4: is what your top spending habit was? 557 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: Really, I reckon we should do one for she's on 558 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 1: the money, where we can all fill it out and 559 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: be like, yeah, this is what I spent the most 560 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 1: on this year and share it so that I don't 561 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: feel so bad about my own situation. Jes So let's 562 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 1: put that on for late November. Flipping back, what is 563 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: your worst money habit? 564 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 5: Can? I have two? 565 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: You can have as many as you like, will be it? 566 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,360 Speaker 1: We probably want to minimize them in general. 567 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 6: Well, I only have two, but the first one is 568 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 6: spending way too much money on sugar free coke. 569 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 5: It's ridiculous. 570 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 3: It tastes like dirt anyway. I pulled this on my Instagram. 571 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 1: I don't know about my pan when there was one 572 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 1: on the desk, I think, and Elisa has been very 573 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: kind and took it away. 574 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 4: You did, she took my can. 575 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 6: It makes big, five hundred mil cans of it, and 576 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 6: I really, oh so good. 577 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 4: Well just thinks it tastes like dirt water. 578 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: If anybody follows her on her personal Instagram, she rallies 579 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: for this, and he's very vocal in this space. 580 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 2: Team PEPSI, We're gonna get hate mail. 581 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 1: For that. 582 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 5: I do like a bit of vanilla Pepsi Max as well. 583 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 5: Give me a break. 584 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: We love that vanilla pepsi Max. I didn't even know 585 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: they did that. 586 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 5: Have a mango pepsi Max your life will be changed. 587 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 4: And mango. 588 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 1: I've never even heard of these things. Where do you 589 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: purchase such delicacies cold? 590 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 3: I'm going to google mango pepsi Max after so, mango 591 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 3: pepsi Max. 592 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 5: Do you have creamy soda pepsi Max? 593 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 1: No? 594 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 4: I think you're making this up. 595 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 6: Now there's creamy soda pepsi Max, mango and vanilla. 596 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: No, there's absolutely not. That is not a thing that 597 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna fight with you. I'm gonna raspberry. I 598 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: can see how that would work. That would work really well. 599 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 2: What's your other worst money habit? 600 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:07,959 Speaker 5: It's either all or nothing? 601 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,199 Speaker 6: Like it's either you know what, girl, treat yourself, go 602 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 6: spend every single bit of your money on anything you want, 603 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 6: or it's you know what, everything your own into the 604 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 6: stock market and then say you're poor for the next 605 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 6: two weeks. 606 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 1: Balance is important. I feel like you might have a 607 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: little bit to learn. 608 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 4: But that is okay. 609 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 5: Doesn't happen every paycheck? 610 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 1: No, but it's good to know that about yourself as well, 611 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 1: because I'm a bit all or nothing. Like if I 612 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: decide I'm doing something, and Jess, you've worked with me 613 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: long enough to attest to this. If I've decided we're 614 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: doing it, we're doing it. Like it's happening that week, 615 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: that month, whatever, that day, it's gonna like we're going 616 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: to organize something for that. So I feel like I'm 617 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: a bit all or nothing and then sometimes just be like, 618 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:50,439 Speaker 1: are we going to. 619 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 4: Do that thing? 620 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: And I'll be like, no, not happening, Yeah, not not 621 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 1: doing it. So I feel like I'm very like that. 622 00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:00,199 Speaker 1: I'm also really impulsive. So for me, having work cked 623 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: out my banking and cash flow and how I manage 624 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: my money has been really important to kind of stop that. 625 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: Have you found that you've had to do that as well. 626 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 5: Like stop myself from the spending. 627 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 4: Or yeah, just having a good banking structure. 628 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: And you know you said before you had your savings account, 629 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: your bills account and stuff. 630 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 4: Is that so that you're not so naughty with money? 631 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: Yeah? 632 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 5: Pretty much? 633 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 6: Like like I said, it doesn't like all or nothing 634 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 6: thing doesn't happen every paycheck, but it's like I put 635 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 6: a certain amount into savings, shares, bills, whatever, and then 636 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 6: sometimes I'm like, oh shit. 637 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 5: Like it's all gone. But oh, well is what it is. 638 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 6: We'll get on the bandwagon next paycheck and then it 639 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 6: just it just happened, like it doesn't happen again. But 640 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 6: I go on the process. It happens like maybe every 641 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 6: three or four months. If one random paycheck it's like bang, 642 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 6: it's gone. 643 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 5: I'm like, okay, But as. 644 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 3: Long as you're paying your bills, like you have a mortgage, 645 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 3: I think as long as you're doing those things, you 646 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 3: also can't necessarily penalize yourself from I mean, I'm not 647 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 3: saying it's a great habit to spend all of your 648 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,040 Speaker 3: money by any stretch of the imagination she's on the money, No, 649 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 3: But I think like, if you're saying it's only happening 650 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 3: every three or four months, that's very different from you 651 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 3: doing it every week and blowing it out and not 652 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 3: being able to make your commitments. 653 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 6: Yeah, all my bills always get paid, Like I always 654 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 6: pay myself and my bills first, and then whatever money 655 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 6: I have left over, I'm like, oh, my card is 656 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 6: something new this week, let's just slap it on there instead. 657 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, it's not even that bad of money. That 658 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 2: all right. 659 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 4: If we forced you to give yourself a money grade, 660 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 4: what would you give yourself, my friend. 661 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 5: Maybe a C. 662 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 4: Why I'm really young. 663 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 5: I have so much to learn, is what it is? 664 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 5: Maybe like a a C plus. We'll go over that. 665 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: Hey, all right, let's chat about that in a bit 666 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: more depth straight after this break. All right, we are 667 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: back money dives. Before we went to the break, you 668 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 1: rated yourself a C plus. However, you're an accomplished apprentice, 669 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: you have an incredibly good income, you have a mortgage. 670 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:01,919 Speaker 1: You said that you bought a car and you know, 671 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: had half the savings, and now you've got a car loan, 672 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,120 Speaker 1: and you seem to be relatively good. 673 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 4: At money management. 674 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: Talk us through where you think the C plus has 675 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 1: come through, so we can understand a little bit about 676 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: why you would grade yourself a C plus, because I 677 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: know that there are so many people going, oh my gosh, 678 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: if I earned what you earn, I would be in 679 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: a because people value their quote money grade when they 680 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: grade themselves so differently. 681 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 4: So talk us through why you think you're a C plus. 682 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 6: I never really have thought about my money habits in 683 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 6: like an A, B, C or D way kind of thing, 684 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 6: Like I don't have that grading approach to money. I 685 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,479 Speaker 6: don't think it matters that I'm now, sorry, twenty one 686 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 6: years old and earn ninety six thousand, Like the cost 687 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 6: of how much it earned doesn't really matter. 688 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 5: I don't know. 689 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 6: I think I could put more of my money to 690 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 6: good use. I think I could make more of my 691 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 6: money work for me instead of me being like, cool, 692 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 6: we're just gonna save it away, Like I could have put. 693 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 5: More in to the stock market and I didn't. 694 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 3: Hindsight's always twenty twenty, though you can always look back 695 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 3: at it, like, ah, if I bought Microsoft shares fifty 696 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 3: years ago, I would have been really rich. 697 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 2: I'm not going to do any good now. 698 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 6: Though, Yeah, I kin'd of see it as like a 699 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 6: I don't know, Like I think I've done well, like 700 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 6: I paid my last car off as well, which I'm 701 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 6: proud of that I did at like eighteen. I had 702 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 6: my first loan ever kind of thing in my first year, 703 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 6: and it was a twenty grand loan again, and I 704 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 6: paid that off within my entire first year because I 705 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 6: prioritized paying that debt off and I did, and then 706 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 6: I invested in the stock market. Then I owned that 707 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 6: car for a bit, and I doubled with a bit 708 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 6: of fun, and then dabbled in the stock market, and 709 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 6: then wore the stock market, and then back to saving. 710 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 6: I'm just like, I'm not consistent on where I am consistent, 711 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 6: Like a set amount of money goes to difflect to 712 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 6: the same bank accounts, But I feel like the percentages 713 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 6: of how much of my money could be more utilized 714 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 6: to work for me. 715 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,479 Speaker 4: Maybe, yeah, that makes absolute sense. 716 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: I think it's just interesting when you start to hear 717 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: somebody going, oh, I think this could change or this 718 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: could change, you kind of get inside their head a 719 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: little bit and go, oh, that makes sense for them. 720 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 1: Why do you think you're so comfortable, I guess at 721 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: that income range for your age, why do you think 722 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: you're so comfortable just being like, you know what, I'll 723 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: wing it and I'll work it out. Is it just 724 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,719 Speaker 1: because you've got a consistently relatively large paycheck coming in 725 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: every month. 726 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 5: I can publy Yeah, I assume so. 727 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 6: I don't want to say, but like I kind of 728 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 6: had that mentality towards like everything in my life, Like 729 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 6: I'm just so easy going, like I don't see money 730 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 6: as like the be all and the end all. I'm like, oh, 731 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 6: it's here, and I utilize it like really really well. 732 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 6: But I'm so cruisy with everything that goes on in 733 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 6: my life that I'm like, Okay, I work hard for 734 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 6: my money. I work so damn hard for my money, 735 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 6: and that when it comes in, I'm like, cool, it's there. 736 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 2: Cool, let's go back to work, Like yeah, I love. 737 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 6: That I work hard for it and it in and 738 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 6: then I'm like, oh cool, let's just let's just do life. 739 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 4: That's fair. 740 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: That's absolutely fair. What questions have you got, Jess. I 741 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: can see you looking at your notes. 742 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 3: I was gonna say, I want to talk to you 743 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 3: a little bit more about your job because I would 744 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 3: imagine that your industry would be very heavily skewed male. 745 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 2: What is that like. 746 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 3: Did you find, particularly because you are on the younger side, 747 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 3: to be going into a workforce where you said before, 748 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 3: you know some of the guys are fifty sixty years old. 749 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 3: Have you come up against so far any of that 750 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 3: kind of she's a bit young or you know, what 751 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 3: would you know? Because you get that in all industries, 752 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 3: but I imagine when you're working around machinery and it's 753 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 3: a bit of a blokes industry, it might be quite prevalent. 754 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 3: Has that been the case. 755 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, I've had my fair share of men come and 756 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 6: put me down. Before I got my apprenticeship, I worked 757 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 6: at a different industry in like the ship building industry, 758 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 6: and I was the only female out of the entire 759 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 6: engineering department, out of one hundred. 760 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 5: And fifty men. 761 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 6: Oh my god, I was here and I was seventeen 762 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 6: years old, Like I just got my license, and I 763 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 6: was this little seventeen year old walking into a massive 764 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 6: shipbuilding company, and I likely I had like two blokes 765 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 6: out of the whole company that were kind of like 766 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 6: not my backbone. They were like, if you ever have 767 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 6: an issue, come to us and we'll do ABC and D, 768 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 6: and you know you just by the time I was 769 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:26,959 Speaker 6: like three months into the job, I knew what I 770 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 6: was doing almost head down, ass up, and like people 771 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 6: just come up to you and be like, you know, 772 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 6: you don't belong here, like do you know what you're doing? 773 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 5: Do you know how to do your job? It's just 774 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 5: the industry. 775 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's such an old school mentality that, you know, 776 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 3: it's a very because you're a woman, you couldn't possibly 777 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 3: know anything about machines, not as if you've done the same, 778 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 3: if not more study than something. 779 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 4: With you doing it seventeen, it was probably this. 780 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, So that, apart from that job didn't last very 781 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 6: long because it was also very terrible company. 782 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 5: I did not have a good time. Just the way 783 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 5: I was treated and way other even the men were treated. 784 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 5: It was terrible. 785 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 4: Oh I'm so sorry. That sucks so much. 786 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 5: It sucked a little bit. 787 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 6: Very character building gives me the backbone that I definitely 788 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 6: have today. But now my apprenticeship has been an absolute breeze. 789 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 6: Like I think I started when I was seventeen, and 790 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 6: like sometimes being a young female in the industry can 791 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 6: be a bit like half and half and see like 792 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 6: oh we got a young female apprentice, or it's like, 793 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 6: oh we got a young female apprentice. Yeah, it's like 794 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 6: it's either half and half kind of thing. I haven't 795 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 6: had too much issue with my apprenticeship, apart from the 796 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 6: odd one or two people that like to talk down 797 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 6: to you. 798 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 5: But I'm like, you know what, you're gonna talk. 799 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 6: Down to me, I'm going to talk down back to you, 800 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 6: and I'll stand my ground and if you're rude to me, I'm. 801 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 4: Rude to you. 802 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 3: So I love that you have so much conviction that 803 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 3: I could not. I could never like I just someone 804 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 3: would say something mean, I'd be. 805 00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 6: Like, oh, sorry, you should see me. I'm an angry crier, 806 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 6: an angry crier. I'm an angry cry and I get 807 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 6: so worked up and so angry I'll just burst out 808 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 6: into tears. One of the bosses at were he just 809 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 6: he rubbed me up the wrong way and I snapped. 810 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 6: I snapped and I swore at him, and I walked 811 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 6: out and I cried. 812 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 5: One of the blokes come up to me. He was like, oh, well, well, 813 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:19,879 Speaker 5: what's the matter. 814 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 6: I said a many amount of words that I won't 815 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 6: repeat here, and he just started laughing at me. 816 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 5: He goes, go sit down, go have a Milo or something. 817 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 4: Just come for a Milo. This is so sweet. I 818 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 4: need a Milo when I've had a bad day. 819 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:35,320 Speaker 2: That's pretty wholesome advice. 820 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 6: It's either a Milo or Ness Cafe forty three blend coffee. 821 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, the high class coffee. 822 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 1: Very very nice. That sounds like stuff cafeteria vibes. 823 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 3: Does your partner work in the same industry as you? 824 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 3: He sure does incredible. Did you guys meet it work 825 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 3: you shor. 826 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 4: Did so cute? 827 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 5: It was like the first day, like I'd come into 828 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 5: the workshop, they were like, you go work with this person. 829 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 6: You work with this person, and they're like, you can 830 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 6: go work with this person. 831 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,280 Speaker 5: I walked up and I got the young hot. 832 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 4: Tody, I will snap you up hello. 833 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 6: And then we ended up getting closer and closer and 834 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 6: now he's stuck with me. 835 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 2: So may you have house together? 836 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, how good is that? 837 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 5: That's really dog together? 838 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 2: What kind of dog do you have? 839 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 3: Which wear a cross jet ross stock? 840 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 6: So it's not a terror, it's been trained very well. 841 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 6: I know it's very biased of me. 842 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 1: But oh I think Lucy's been trained well too. And 843 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 1: then she's like rude. Sometimes I'm like, nah, that's not 844 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 1: how I brought you up. 845 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, before we head off, do you have any advice 846 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,720 Speaker 3: for women wanting to get into an industry like yours 847 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 3: that is really heavily skewed male that I may be 848 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 3: worried about facing, you know, those same kind of comments 849 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 3: or that same level of discrimination. 850 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's I'm not gonna lie. So it's a tough industry, 851 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 6: Like it's a. It's a very tough industry, not only 852 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,360 Speaker 6: to work with the men, but it's just a fly 853 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 6: demanding job. It would be some days I come home 854 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 6: from work and I am I am so sore, and 855 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 6: i am so tired. 856 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:09,879 Speaker 5: I've got cuts and. 857 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 6: Bruises all up my arm, or I've been covered in 858 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,240 Speaker 6: hydraulic oil head to toe, or I'm covered in diesel, 859 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,879 Speaker 6: like you know, sometimes I've been covered in that much 860 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 6: oil that I've had to have a shower at works, 861 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 6: and I can't go home in my clothes because I 862 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 6: wear clothes under my overalls. I'm drenched, like I'm physically 863 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 6: I'm drenched in oil. 864 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 4: Oh so it's not for the faint hearted. 865 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 5: It's not for the faint of heart. It's not, and 866 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 5: it's not as well. 867 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 6: Like people can give you snarky comments like I do 868 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 6: field service by myself, and I've gone out and I've 869 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 6: been with like a one of my fitters. And then 870 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 6: one day I've been out by myself and I went 871 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,399 Speaker 6: up to the same bloat whose machine's broken down again. 872 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 6: He goes, oh, so when's your fitter coming. I'm like, 873 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 6: I am the fitter. Like, move out the way, I'll 874 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 6: fix your machine, Like you have to be you have 875 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:56,799 Speaker 6: to be stern, you have to be like, drat me 876 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 6: to fix your effing machine or what. Yeah, and then 877 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 6: if not, you just walk away. If they're going to 878 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 6: be rutey, I don't fix it. 879 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:02,880 Speaker 5: I just turn around. 880 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 881 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,400 Speaker 1: Ah, the confidence you've got to have to do that, though, 882 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if I would have that in me. 883 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, you can't be sensitive, Yeah, you really can't. Like 884 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 6: it's just I hate to say it, like it is 885 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:16,359 Speaker 6: what it is. 886 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 5: It shouldn't be, but it is. But it's also so 887 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:19,959 Speaker 5: much fun. 888 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 6: Like you've got what it takes to be a female 889 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,359 Speaker 6: in the industry, be physically strong and mentally strong and 890 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 6: have the backbone. 891 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 5: Anything's possible. Lie, it's such a rewarding industry. It's so great. 892 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,800 Speaker 4: I love that. I love that you love your job. 893 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 1: And I think that that's all we can hope that 894 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 1: everybody has right to find a career that they're just 895 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 1: so excited about. And I mean, I'm not up for 896 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,479 Speaker 1: being covered in oil by the end of the day, 897 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 1: Like I'd be like, no, thank you, But if I 898 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,879 Speaker 1: loved my job that much, I'd be like, yeah, that's fine, 899 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 1: that's just part and parcel throll like, that's absolutely fine, 900 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 1: because I think that so many people would say the 901 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:57,400 Speaker 1: same thing about finance. 902 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,400 Speaker 4: They're like absolutely not, Like that is not my forte. 903 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:02,880 Speaker 5: I could not do your job sitting in an office 904 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 5: all day. Ye I couldn't. 905 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 6: I physically couldn't do it. I would drive myself absolutely batty. 906 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 4: Well lucky. 907 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 1: We spend most of our day in the studio now, Jes. 908 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 1: But thank you so so much for joining us. I 909 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,400 Speaker 1: am so grateful to hear your story and know that 910 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 1: you're in our community, just bopping along doing you like 911 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 1: you are such a cool human and I feel like 912 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 1: the energy that you've brought to the podcast has been 913 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 1: so infectious, Like Jess and I are like, yes, let's 914 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 1: do it, like I love this, so thank you so 915 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,880 Speaker 1: much for joining us. 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