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Speaker 1: This is gonna look so good on my tinder. The

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Speaker 1: Driver's Show with Paul Marrick and Gordy Waters. So everyone's

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Speaker 1: been wondering where Paul is and the Melbourne Gangland Wars

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Speaker 1: have got him. He's been masheddied up.

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Speaker 3: All I did was try to open a tobacco store. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: here we are.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you've got a couple of fire bombs, a

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Speaker 1: couple of our cocktail bombs thrown in. Do you know

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Speaker 1: that happens regularly at a place right up the road

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Speaker 1: from me. You can tell this guy, this guy, this

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Speaker 1: guy is clearly not playing ball with the with the

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Speaker 1: cigarette mafia. And he's like, you know, no, no, I'm

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Speaker 1: just gonna I'm gonna do by the real deal, and

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Speaker 1: the bikes and whatever are just like.

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Speaker 2: See up, we don't think so.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like once a month this poor bastard shop windows

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Speaker 3: We we actually, I know there's had nothing to do

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Speaker 3: with cars. But where we used to live in South Melbourne,

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Speaker 3: they popped up a tobacco store. I'm like, oh, you're

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Speaker 1: Which whereabouts was that one?

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Speaker 3: There was one that had a car driven through it

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Speaker 3: and then set on fire. This was a different one,

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Speaker 3: but straight after it opened, was that.

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Speaker 1: The Clarendon That was the one on Clarendon in New

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Speaker 1: York Street. Yeah, but this is a different one because

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Speaker 1: that building. Yeah my dad, yeah yeah, he coming back,

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Speaker 1: coming back to collect some debt. Yeah. It's all LinkedIn

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Speaker 2: Now so straight after.

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Speaker 3: These guys opened, they installed like military grade ballards bars

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Speaker 3: on all the windows, shutters just to sell a pack

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Speaker 3: of smokes. Lovely so anyway, yeah, but yeah, how good

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Speaker 2: Victoria is?

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Speaker 3: It has gone downhill, like you wouldn't believe. There's taxes

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Speaker 3: on everything. Crime is completely out of control. If the

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Speaker 3: police aren't busy doing a protest, they're searching for a

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Speaker 1: It feels weird as an outsider looking in and someone

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Speaker 1: decline from from COVID with old mate Dan Andrews to

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Speaker 1: what I mean, what a fucking debarcle that was? How

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Speaker 2: And this is now completely off carspic.

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Speaker 1: In case you've just joined us, this is what really

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Speaker 2: How was he in the picture with Kim johng wound.

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Speaker 3: I'm like you, mate, you do not care, you just

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Speaker 1: Just lost the plight, hasn't he. He is a piece

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Speaker 2: My mate Steve Price fixed that up.

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Speaker 3: Here, there and everywhere? And we're going to be talking

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Speaker 3: Ship in the room. How that chair is buckling?

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Speaker 3: Of those you know, moms with eight kids who win

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Speaker 3: a cherry on the Today Show, if trev just he will,

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Speaker 3: he will ravish them.

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Speaker 1: Come and see the real fucking key carnival, Carnival in

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Speaker 1: my pants, fucking up it's room right, Oh good, but

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Speaker 1: He just totally would near the tuck shop.

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Speaker 2: The design.

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Speaker 3: I don't personally like it, but styling is subjective. People

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Speaker 3: We actually just it's going live tomorrow as we record this,

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Speaker 2: We publish a towing video, and it's not great at towing.

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Speaker 3: We had a lot of issues with the stability control

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Speaker 1: Missed, especially when this car. There's a lot of eyes

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Speaker 3: If you get different tires, it's no longer the same height.

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Speaker 1: But I feel like it's more of an aesthetic, to

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Speaker 3: it snaps sideways on you and you're not expecting it.

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Speaker 2: Why there isn't just a button is just so strange.

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Speaker 3: It must be a cost saving thing, because I cannot

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Speaker 3: think of any positive reason you would not have a

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Speaker 1: And it's pretty like commonplace too.

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Speaker 2: It will change up gears on its own, so if you're.

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Speaker 1: I believe you did that.

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Speaker 1: That's me, Gordon, that is me. Yeah, must The new

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Speaker 1: Mustang looks good, looks good. It's expensive, a guzzle fuel,

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Speaker 6: just fucking finished sheet metal at Tafe and I've got

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Speaker 3: Up paid well paid.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know what I loved, You know what I

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Speaker 1: Look before you say anything. It's interesting to see they've

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Speaker 3: that at all. But the thing that disappoints me is

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder if they I wonder if you could

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Speaker 3: I just wish that if I'm paying for a JCW,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever. Well, yeah, look, I liked it.

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Speaker 1: the little car it used to be, but I guess

442
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Speaker 1: it's a little by today's standards. Yeah, it's this beautiful color.

443
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Speaker 1: I don't want to know what the color was. It

444
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Speaker 1: was like a blue. It almost looked like a tiffany blue.

445
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Speaker 3: Wouldn't know what.

446
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Speaker 1: That looks, really, you definitely wouldn't know.

447
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Speaker 2: It was good.

448
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Speaker 1: What have you driven lately?

449
00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:49,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, so did the Tasmin I spent some time in

450
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Speaker 3: the Ranger plug in hybrid.

451
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Speaker 1: Oh you know, it was snooze.

452
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Speaker 3: It was good, but not the one I Storm Track

453
00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,280
Speaker 3: or whatever it was called. It was obscenely over price

454
00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,679
Speaker 3: and never listened to the noise that was making. I

455
00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:06,320
Speaker 3: put this up on my Instagram and as well. Yeah,

456
00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,520
Speaker 3: instantly got a call from Ford because they were panicking

457
00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:10,600
Speaker 3: about the noise that it was making. But basically, I

458
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,520
Speaker 3: went out to the drive I'd had it charging overnight,

459
00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,199
Speaker 3: went out to the driveway, turned it on so that

460
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Speaker 3: it would run the heater, but it was in ev

461
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 3: mode so the engine was not on. So I ever

462
00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:23,320
Speaker 3: listened to this. I was going to put it up

463
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:27,160
Speaker 3: to the speaker. It's some rough sounds that have started.

464
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Speaker 3: So this is a cold start on full electric with

465
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Speaker 3: the battery pull.

466
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Speaker 1: It sounds like something's rattling in that fan.

467
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Speaker 3: So my theory, and they haven't confirmed this, but my

468
00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 3: theory is when you get into a car like that, manufacturers,

469
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Speaker 3: depending on how they do it, they operate these in

470
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,840
Speaker 3: two different ways. They either let you run it on

471
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Speaker 3: electric and just leave the internal combustion engine dormant and

472
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Speaker 3: just never even think about it, or what Ford appears

473
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Speaker 3: to do is even if you're running in full electric

474
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Speaker 3: it will circulate like some sort of heated liquid through

475
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 3: the internal combustion engine, so that when it does have

476
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 3: to fire up, you could be doing one hundred k's

477
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Speaker 3: now you don't want it to go straight to two

478
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Speaker 3: thousand rpm and just be sitting there red heavy load.

479
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Speaker 3: When we used to I used to do my engineering job,

480
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Speaker 3: we had.

481
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Speaker 1: This isn't a linked in account.

482
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm so proud of my team because here's why

483
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Speaker 3: I did well. No, So, when I did my engineering job,

484
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 3: we worked at data centers, and data centers all have

485
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Speaker 3: these enormous generators that run if the electricity goes out.

486
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Speaker 3: So if the electricity goes out, data centers have battery

487
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Speaker 3: packs that take over immediately. Then generators start, and then

488
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Speaker 3: generators run the site for potentially weeks on end because

489
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 3: they've got huge fuel tanks. And what they would do

490
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,440
Speaker 3: is when they were running generator tests, they would start

491
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Speaker 3: them in anger, which is where you basically turn it

492
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Speaker 3: on and load it up immediately. But those generators all

493
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 3: had like heat jackets that would run warm oil through

494
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 3: them so that when it started, you weren't starting a

495
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 3: cold engine and so that's what Fords doing. So but

496
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 3: the problem is that it sounds like whatever was running

497
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,880
Speaker 3: on that car was like a pump of some sort

498
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Speaker 3: circulating fluid. Potentially I was parked on a hill and

499
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 3: it sounds like perhaps the pump wasn't able to access

500
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Speaker 3: the liquid that it was meant to be circulating. So yeah,

501
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Speaker 3: I don't know whether they actually tested a cold start

502
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,440
Speaker 3: on a hill as part of the engineering program. But yeah,

503
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Speaker 3: a bit of a concerning one. And outside of that

504
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,120
Speaker 3: car's fine. I just don't know why you'd bother buying.

505
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Speaker 1: It's a lot of money too.

506
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the range is a woeful. It's like realistic thirty

507
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 3: kilometers of driving range, which is appalling. Yeah, you're better

508
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,679
Speaker 3: off just buying like a BYD Shark or a cannon.

509
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 3: Like if you need to off road and tow, you

510
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Speaker 3: get the cannon. If you just want something quick and

511
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Speaker 3: electric and.

512
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Speaker 2: Get around town, you get the bid. Yeah, the Ford,

513
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Speaker 2: I just don't know why.

514
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Speaker 3: Anyone would buy it. So that's a bit of a

515
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Speaker 3: weird one.

516
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Speaker 1: Okay, we should talk about Tesla self driving f SD.

517
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Speaker 2: They call it brackets supervised.

518
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Speaker 1: Yes, I love that, which I wouldn't know what what

519
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 1: considers supervised or what do they call it? It's there's

520
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 1: a word like what you've kind of got to be

521
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:21,919
Speaker 1: overlooking the car supervising? Yeah, not supervising. Jesus Christ.

522
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Speaker 3: I wish truth it was he I would be able

523
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:26,639
Speaker 3: to talk lingo.

524
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably industry chat, industry chat.

525
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Speaker 1: Fuck. While you're looking out, I think I think you

526
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Speaker 1: know what the probably the word. I think I probably

527
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Speaker 1: was looking for a supervised Yeah, I want to know

528
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Speaker 1: what what the what constitutes supervised? So you're letting the

529
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Speaker 1: car go drive, but you've got a supervisor.

530
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Speaker 3: Let me paint a picture first. So I get a

531
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Speaker 3: cryptic like phone call from Tip Gordy, this is I

532
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Speaker 3: just get an answer it up to this.

533
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Speaker 1: Hello, isn't you Darling?

534
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Speaker 4: It's Donna.

535
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Speaker 3: How you doing here?

536
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Speaker 1: You Darling? I fucking missed you a little perfectly.

537
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Speaker 4: I've been listening to that stupid podcast you do with

538
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Speaker 4: the the lesbian woman there, what's what's her name?

539
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Speaker 1: Gordon.

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Speaker 4: I've been having a little bit of a listen to

541
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Speaker 4: that lady. And you haven't been on Darland.

542
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Speaker 2: You've been in China.

543
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Speaker 4: I got bloody the life the fucking scared ahead of me.

544
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Speaker 4: I thought he said, you're in a vagina joking.

545
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Speaker 3: You would have you would you would have loved the

546
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Speaker 3: episode with Trevor right, he's a start.

547
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Speaker 1: Don't care for that hairy bastard. I don't care for him.

548
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Speaker 4: I looked at his back and it looks like one

549
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Speaker 4: of me flaps. I've got a blood I've just been

550
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Speaker 4: I've been visiting his sister there in Casina, and I've

551
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Speaker 4: got a new I've got a new your patient. I

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553
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554
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Speaker 4: I've got a webshot and everything.

555
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Speaker 2: What does that entail?

556
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Speaker 4: Well, if you ever fucking had a steam dim sim

557
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 4: I can fucking turn it fried in three seconds. I

558
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 4: can do it for once. Listen, I heard your bloody

559
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 4: talking about them self driving cars. I'll tell you something.

560
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 4: When I'm in the bits of shitty Sigma and I'm

561
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 4: telling my caravan, I can do a bit of self driving.

562
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Speaker 4: I'll fucking put the bloody steering wheel what you got

563
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Speaker 4: and then I just little love, I do need to

564
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 4: fucking shift left little.

565
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Speaker 1: And then just caught me.

566
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Speaker 4: Let you goes to the left.

567
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Speaker 2: Well, thank you. Thank you for the call.

568
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Speaker 4: Donna, don't forget about Donnas and stubby holders. Don't forget

569
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Speaker 4: to check out my website.

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Speaker 1: Donna's Hot, Jimmy's and teas.

571
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Speaker 4: See Land.

572
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Speaker 1: I love you, but it was weird that your phone

573
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 1: would start going in the Military Professional podcast.

574
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 2: I really shouldn't be taking phone calls while we're doing

575
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 2: that's she's got a mouth on it, hasn't she?

576
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 1: Who's that?

577
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 3: Donna?

578
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 1: What's it? Donna? Yeah, I tune out.

579
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Speaker 2: I can't.

580
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Speaker 1: I can't stand her language is disclosed, she's got she's

581
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Speaker 1: just very unclassy. She sounds very uncapped.

582
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 2: Well that's that's true.

583
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:56,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you would know you've been there anyway.

584
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 3: So what I was saying was I've got a cryptic

585
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 3: phone call from Tesla and they said at a breath mate,

586
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah.

587
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 1: So I've literally done four steps and I sound like

588
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 1: fucking Christophers case defeating himself.

589
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 2: Like Trevor six months ago.

590
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: Jesus, I think I'm going to get on the Trevor juice.

591
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, So I got a cryptic phone call and like,

592
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 2: come up to Brisbane.

593
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 3: We're doing an event and you know, we want you

594
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 3: to experience something and I thought they were going to

595
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 3: give us the Model Wide Performance to drive and I'm

596
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 3: like all right, can I bring the videographer and like yes,

597
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 3: but you need to pay for him to come. And

598
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 3: I'm like okay, they are the world's tightest car company.

599
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 2: So I'm like, right, we'll cover the cost of that.

600
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 3: So I flew up there with a videographer and we

601
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 3: went into this room and they're like, we're about to

602
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 3: roll out full self driving bracket, supervised bracket for Australia

603
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,719
Speaker 3: and New Zealand. I was like, oh, this is exciting.

604
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 3: And we flew up to Mount Cotton, which is like

605
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 3: a driver training facility outside of Brisbane, and I thought

606
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 3: that was going to drive us around Mount Cotton. I

607
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 3: thought this is going to be stupid.

608
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 2: It's like a it's a curated road that you've got here.

609
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 3: It's not that special.

610
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 2: And they all right, so we've got some out the front.

611
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 3: You can go on a drive loop through to Brisbane

612
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 3: and back and I was like, whoa, okay, So we

613
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 3: set up all the cameras on the car activated full

614
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 3: self driving, which requires you to answer about thirty different disclaimers,

615
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 3: none of which I properly read. It then drove me

616
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 3: to the city like on its own. I literally just

617
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 3: had my hands behind the wheel and my feet near

618
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Speaker 3: the brakes.

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Speaker 1: So did you have to put your hands on the wheel?

620
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Speaker 3: You don't have to. It's not like autopilot where you

621
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 3: have to interact with it every twenty seconds. You do

622
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 3: not have to touch anything for the entirety of the drive.

623
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Speaker 3: And it will do everything from indicating breaking stopping, changing lanes,

624
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 3: stopping it roundabouts, going through it like it does everything.

625
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: And like it was weird. I do you keep your

626
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: hands on your lap?

627
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Speaker 2: Well, technically you need to still be in control, right,

628
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 2: and this is one of the things like you can't.

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Speaker 3: You've got to be what's the word I'm looking.

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Speaker 1: For, supervising it right? The supervised. I have a question

631
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Speaker 1: if I am supervising right and having away? Yeah, well,

632
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: because that would be the first thing, you know. I

633
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: remember when I remember when mobile phones first got cameras.

634
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Speaker 1: The first thing I did was was philm a Willie and.

635
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Speaker 3: Two of those eight pixels were Jesus.

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Speaker 1: He couldn't fit.

637
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: According to a cop.

639
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 3: That I spoke to in Queensland, he said that you

640
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 3: don't have to have your hands on the wheel as

641
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 3: long as you have control of the vehicle.

642
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 2: So I think that's open to interpretation.

643
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 3: And just as a really quick side note, Tesla has

644
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 3: been sued by that many people in the States I

645
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 3: have alleged autopilot crashes. They actually had to pay some

646
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 3: do two hundred and something million dollars to the family

647
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 3: he was involved in a crash, and the crazy thing

648
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,479
Speaker 3: was that he allegedly wasn't even using autopilot. So they

649
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 3: said that no car would ever have been able to

650
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 3: stop the crash that he was in because he was

651
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 3: just not He dropped his phone or something went looking

652
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 3: for it. So the judge awarded the family thirty three

653
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 3: percent of damages, which equated to be like two hundred million.

654
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Speaker 2: So Tesla's appealing that.

655
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Speaker 3: I don't know that they've had any successful convictions based

656
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 3: on it running on auto.

657
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 2: Public because Tesla is a little tricky with the way

658
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 2: they do things.

659
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Speaker 3: Every instance so far, they say that autopilot was disabled,

660
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 3: and based on some testing that the people have done

661
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 3: on the internet, it disables just before an impact or

662
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 3: a crash. So I was like, yeah, it was disabled

663
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 3: one third of a second before it crashed into the thing.

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Speaker 3: So yes, technically that's true, but anyway, look we've seen.

665
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Speaker 1: An interesting kind of what an interesting kind of get

666
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Speaker 1: out of jail for free card. Like if you're saying, well,

667
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: we disabled it, like they've got every chance to correct it.

668
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So yeah, for the most part it worked well.

670
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Speaker 3: There was a couple of instances, and we've got a

671
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Speaker 3: video up on YouTube that you can sort of watch

672
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Speaker 3: all of this. On a couple of instances in the

673
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Speaker 3: city in Brisbanese, what I did was they had a

674
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Speaker 3: curate a driver route, and I'm like, I'm immediately going

675
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Speaker 3: to change that because I want to go to Bunnings.

676
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Speaker 2: I want to see what it's like not on a

677
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Speaker 2: driver rout.

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Speaker 1: There's obviously a Saturday morning you want a sausage of bread,

679
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: and yeah, immediately.

680
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Speaker 3: As I sort of deviated from their driver it made

681
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 3: a couple of pretty serious eras, one of which was

682
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 3: like driving across oncoming traffic basically and I had to

683
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 3: take control of the car. And then the other was

684
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Speaker 3: at Bunning's where it just failed to give way to

685
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Speaker 3: another car that had right of way. So it was

686
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 3: interesting to me as well because I always understood that

687
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 3: this system takes all the data from customers that drive

688
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 3: Teslas and then creates like an AI model of how

689
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Speaker 3: to operate.

690
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Speaker 1: Well, there's your first mistake.

691
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Speaker 3: No, but that's what people think. But the way that

692
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 3: it actually works, based on the discussion I had with

693
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Speaker 3: one of their engineers that we weren't allowed to quote

694
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,479
Speaker 3: or include in any of the content, was that they

695
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 3: globally have what they call safe drivers, and these will

696
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 3: be people that are paid by Tesla to drive around

697
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 3: in Tesla's in learning mode, and it will teach the

698
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Speaker 3: car rules, so things like, if you're on a freeway

699
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Speaker 3: and you need to change lanes, how much space do

700
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Speaker 3: you safely need to do that?

701
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Speaker 2: So is it two meters?

702
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 3: Is it five to ten? The car then knows that

703
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 3: next time it recognizes that it's on a freeway through

704
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 3: its camera system, that it can change lanes because it

705
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 3: says that there is five meters between those cars. It

706
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 3: knows how to respond to a speed hump, it knows

707
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 3: how to respond to a human in front of it,

708
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 3: a school crossing zone. So it learns all of these

709
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 3: things because Teslas don't have radars or lighters, they just

710
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 3: use camera vision. And that to me is a bit

711
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 3: concerned because the only other experience I've had in an

712
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 3: autonomous car was in Los Angeles in a weaymow where

713
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 3: that was unreal. That was a really cool experience. But

714
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 3: there was no one else in the car. It's just

715
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 3: my wife and I, no one driving, it's just the

716
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 3: car doing it. But that has that has all sorts

717
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 3: of senses on top of it. Side that's got lighter

718
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 3: or something, it's got light radar, it's got ultrasonic senses

719
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 3: like it is fully loaded. So the next obvious question

720
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Speaker 3: you're going to ask, can I bat one out in

721
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 3: a Tesla's that's correct, Yes you can. There's quite a

722
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 3: few porn videos of people doing it while they're on

723
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Speaker 3: self driving mode. So I question whether these teslas can

724
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 3: pick up the what do we call it, what's the

725
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 3: word the supervision?

726
00:33:59,040 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: The supervision.

727
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, actually it's funny they have so when you're running.

728
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 3: Just normal autopilot, which comes stand in in all teslas,

729
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,760
Speaker 3: it requires you to like bump the wheel every certain

730
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 3: interval like twenty seconds or something. These cars, because you

731
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 3: don't need to touch the wheel, they still need to

732
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 3: monitor you. So there's actually a camera inside the car

733
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 3: that looks at your face and it's able to use

734
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 3: AI to determine whether you're concentrating, so it's not like

735
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 3: one of those shitty systems you find in a lot

736
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 3: of Chinese cars today where you look out the window

737
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 3: to literally do a head check and you're distracted. Yeah,

738
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 3: it's like no fucking driving the car. So it does

739
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 3: a really good good job with that. Then what it'll

740
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 3: do is if you are distracted, such as having intercourse

741
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 3: with someone in the passenger seat, what it will do

742
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 3: is is start prompting you to intervene, and if you

743
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 3: ignore it, it will basically shut full self driving down

744
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 3: for that whole session, so you won't be able to

745
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 3: reactivate it. And it logs that as well.

746
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:52,839
Speaker 1: It almost gives you a warning.

747
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 3: Pretty much like and it logs the amount of strikeouts

748
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 3: you've had, so that if you are in an accident

749
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 3: like this guy as part of that court case, actually

750
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 3: mentioned how many strikeouts he'd previously had, so he had

751
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 3: a history of being distracted while driving. Oh, which you

752
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 3: obviously shouldn't have. Because it takes a lot of fucking

753
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 3: effort to get this thing to do a strikeout due

754
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 3: to distraction like it.

755
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: Is, it is a lot of work, so did you

756
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 1: test that a little bit? Did you try kind of

757
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 1: like close your eyes?

758
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 3: Tested it previously in a standard Tesla and it actually

759
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 3: came to a full stop and put its hazard lights

760
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 3: on from memory, so it managed that whole process. But

761
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 3: because we're on public rids, I don't want to fath

762
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 3: too much with it. But there were there were a

763
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 3: couple of other sort of interesting things, like we went

764
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 3: through a roadwork zone on the freeway. It dropped to

765
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 3: eighty and the roadwork zone finished, and we'd passed like

766
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,879
Speaker 3: two sets of one hundred signs, but it was still

767
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 3: just doing eighty and it wasn't until the third one

768
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,280
Speaker 3: that it sped up again, and it's like that's annoying.

769
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Speaker 3: And then another one where it entered around about like

770
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 3: you didn't even slow down for it, which would be

771
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 3: fine to do if you could see everything, but there

772
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 3: was a motorbike coming.

773
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Speaker 1: Oh god. I was like a lot. Got a bad

774
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 1: feeling about this self drive ship.

775
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 2: I really just this is this is supervised.

776
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 3: So they're their ambition for this is the robo taxi,

777
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 3: which is basically where your car while you're here at work,

778
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 3: your car will drive off and do uberfore you and

779
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 3: generate you an income.

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00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 1: That's amazing. But it's a great idea.

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00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 3: It's well, I thought so was well until I looked

782
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 3: at the practicality of it. If I look at my

783
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 3: wife's car, it is as if there was like a

784
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,919
Speaker 3: small nuclear reactor that exploded. It was like a mini

785
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 3: Chernobyl inside her car because there is ship everywhere. Can

786
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 3: you imagine her just parking that at work and it

787
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 3: going to pick up someone and just having to get.

788
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Speaker 1: Like she's got ibs to.

789
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 3: That too.

790
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Speaker 2: But you just imagine all the you have to clean

791
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 2: your car.

792
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,800
Speaker 1: I just I don't like that concept, but I imagine

793
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 1: imagine that though, like you get your car returned or whatever,

794
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 1: and there's just like a fucking Grogan and just someone's

795
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: bloody chicken corma sitting under the seat.

796
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Speaker 3: Oops. So yeah, I think it's It's an interesting and

797
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 3: I am excited for the technology eventually working. I just

798
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 3: don't know that it's quite there just yet. And I'm

799
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 3: glad it's still supervised. We're still a long way away

800
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 3: from And that's the other thing. This is still technically

801
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,240
Speaker 3: a level two autonomous system, and a level too autonomous

802
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 3: system is no different to radar cruise control in a

803
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 3: Masda too, so they're technically classed as the same system,

804
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 3: even though with a Masda too the car will prompt

805
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 3: you a thousand times and it won't let you let

806
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,240
Speaker 3: go of the wheel, whereas this will allow.

807
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 2: You to have nothing on the car. So how much

808
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 2: do you think this costs?

809
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: I think it costs ten thousand dollars per play, A

810
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: lot of money. Yeah, it's a love for It's a

811
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: lot of money for an upgrade.

812
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 3: Isn't it. Yeah, I think they're going to They're doing

813
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,879
Speaker 3: a monthly subscription in the States. I'm pretty sure it's

814
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 3: like ninety nine US dollars a month, so it'll probably

815
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 3: be about one hundred and fifty bucks here a month,

816
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 3: which a lot of money. People where I think this

817
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 3: might actually come in handy. Both dad and my brother

818
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 3: do night shift work and have to drive about eighty

819
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 3: ks to get to their job. There's a lot of

820
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 3: times where they will come home feeling very tired, or

821
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 3: they'll have to pull over on the side of the

822
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 3: road to have a power nap. It could be good

823
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 3: for people like that where if you are on a

824
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 3: longer distance drive, obviously you can't sleep while you're driving

825
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,240
Speaker 3: in the car. But to prevent the type of accidents

826
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,760
Speaker 3: we see a lot with micro sleeps and really drowsy drivers,

827
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 3: this could be a good stop gap. Obviously you should

828
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 3: always be stopping and having a power nap, but it

829
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 3: could come in handy as a backup for people like that.

830
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 1: It could actually be handy for people who are who

831
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: like incapable of driving a car as well.

832
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 3: Well. You look at older people the amount of times

833
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 3: and it's funny. It's actually not funny, but the amount

834
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 3: of times they try and make it like a whimsical

835
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 3: thing where they go, oh, they can use the break

836
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 3: for the throttle. It's going to be one time where

837
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 3: someone does that and you're going to kill someone. And

838
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 3: so far it's been quite minor accidents. But like old people,

839
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 3: this is great. They still have their freedom behind the wheel.

840
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 3: They're not confined to getting taxis and all this other stuff.

841
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 3: You can still, in theory be sitting in the car

842
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 3: and they probably have sufficient control to take over if

843
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,280
Speaker 3: something goes wrong, but they're not required to be fully

844
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 3: in charge, which at the moment some older people struggle with.

845
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: Hmm hmm. I wonder if someone with no arms could

846
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: drive one of these.

847
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 3: Technically, no, because you have to be able to press

848
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 3: buttons on the screen. Maybe if you could press the

849
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 3: button on the screen somehow, press it with your nose, Yeah,

850
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 3: press it with your tongue. I'm not laughing. Okay, so neither.

851
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 1: I'm not laughing at that. That was just qu'd clean

852
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: the screen at the same time. Speed a long night?

853
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 3: Is that anyway?

854
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: Is that fingers mudges on the screen?

855
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 3: There?

856
00:39:49,560 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: No, it's it's the tongue. Jesus Christ, Oh Jesus, you

857
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 1: wouldn't want to have it causing that. Garen then just

858
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: licked a screen. Oh anyway, anyway, anyway, driver less cars.

859
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: Oh hey, I think that's it. I thank god.

860
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 2: I should mention that. Next week we've got a pretty

861
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 2: exciting guest on Rosso.

862
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 3: We had Rosy, which is an interesting interview, but this

863
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 3: time Rosso is going to join us, so we're gonna

864
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 3: chat with him.

865
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Speaker 2: We'll try and give away some copies of his book

866
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 2: as well. Yeah, yeah, cool, we'll have a listen to that.

867
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 3: But yeah, if you got any feedback, contact at the

868
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 3: Drivers Show dot com dot au.

869
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 2: Make sure you get in touch. Let us know what

870
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 2: you like and don't like, which that's probably not a

871
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 2: bad idea.

872
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 3: I don't we've ever asked for feedback. Yeah, we have, okay, and.

873
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: A lot of people say they don't like this show.

874
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 1: That was just mainly you just mainly that out like me,

875
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 1: we didn't get the drivers with Paul, Paul and Trevor.

876
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 3: That's got a good ring to it. And Steph stop,

877
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 3: what are you laughing at it?

878
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: I don't know.

879
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 7: I was just thinking about you putting that car in

880
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:27,720
Speaker 7: automatic drive. Let's go for a car review, Steph, worry.

881
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 1: Hey, you know what we didn't talk about the new

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Speaker 1: prel lude prelude We can you leave that to another episode.

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Speaker 2: I'll actually be driving it in Tokyo.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, let me know how powerless that car is.

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Speaker 1: What a hybrid piecea but wow, oh I had the

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Speaker 1: young da Ionic nine too. That's the key.

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Speaker 3: Ev It's an interesting with think.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's got quite the ass on it doesn't it.

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Speaker 1: It's it's kind of like the front of the car

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Speaker 1: was like the people who designed the front of the

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Speaker 1: car didn't really speak to the people who designed the back.

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Speaker 1: And we're like, hey, we've got this bold future in mind.

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Speaker 1: We're going to do forward thinking avant Garde and the

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Speaker 1: people who did the back went, we're going for a

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Speaker 1: fucking nineteen eighties Volvo station Wagon.

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Speaker 3: It's also very expensive.

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Speaker 1: It's very expensive, one hundred and twenty thousand dollars. I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you what it does do well. It does do

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Speaker 1: the interior quite well. It is quite a nice plush interior,

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Speaker 1: and it is quick. I mean for a big ass car,

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Speaker 1: it's like a five second car. But also it's soulless.

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Speaker 1: You know, these evs, I'm starting to get a bit mere.

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Speaker 3: Well, the interesting thing is the Santa Fe is such

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Speaker 3: a good car. I just don't know why you wouldn't

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Speaker 3: just buy that and save yourself, like fifty sixty seventy however,

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Speaker 3: many thousand dollars.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, surely that's just a better thing. Oh you know

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Speaker 1: what I saw the other day, the Young Day Palisade,

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Speaker 1: the new Palisade.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, nice, it's a nice looking car.

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Speaker 1: Again, going to be expensive though, I reckon kit it out.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Young Day are doing really cool interiors. But anyway,

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Speaker 1: we went off track.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, feedback, let us know what you like

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Speaker 3: and don't like, and if what do you think we

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Speaker 3: should review next? Yeah, let us leave us a rating

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Speaker 3: if you haven't done so, because that definitely helps us

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Speaker 3: as one as its five stars.

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Speaker 1: I think you've done all the housekeeping. Gordy and three

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Speaker 1: guys in an EV Oh yeah, three guys on a

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Speaker 1: TV you, Trevor and fucking Fenech. All right, eh, I

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Speaker 1: think I know. Let me think of my own scenario.

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Speaker 1: Gordon and Tom Baker. That could be fun. Oh no, no, wait,

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Speaker 1: wait wait.

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Speaker 3: The dirty Sanchez you could call it that the show.

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Speaker 1: Don't be a brand noser? What about? What about? What

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Speaker 1: about Gordon and the Castles guy? What's that kid? What's

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Speaker 1: that guy's name?

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Speaker 3: A brand mat?

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Speaker 1: Would you call him? Did you call him fat brown?

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Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, don't say that. Actually, I reckon if I

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Speaker 1: had a competition with that guy, I reckon I could

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Speaker 1: probably out drink him, because I reckon I've got a

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Speaker 1: better suit of tits in him.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, this is this is definitely gone downhill in next week,

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Speaker 3: hopefully for a much better show.

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Speaker 1: Bye, Gordon and Nadine. What's their face is?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 1: You know I'm gonna say to me, don't you?

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Speaker 3: I know?

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Speaker 1: With with that four balls in a four balls and

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Speaker 1: a parentids, we're out there. Bye. I Love you. The

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Speaker 1: Driver Show Podcast is looking for a sponsor. The proceeds

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Speaker 1: will be used to fulfill Paul and Gordy's last long

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Speaker 1: dream of bringing back the Go Go Mobile.

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Speaker 2: But this son isn't easy.

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Speaker 1: Is that the best idea ever? Or what? Keane? Drop

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Speaker 1: us a line at contact at The Driver's Show Podcast

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Speaker 1: dot com dot you send.

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Speaker 2: Us a DM on our Instagram page.

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Speaker 1: We'd love to work with you.