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Speaker 1: Where where back? Where have you been? Bitch? Here?

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Speaker 1: And every week a lot of people have been asking

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Speaker 1: there's been a rift in our relationship. It's been a

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Speaker 1: very We were doing a stage show. It was your birthday.

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Speaker 1: and he said, don't miss trump this time, and we

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Speaker 1: were abrupted. We stopped the band. But we've had a chat,

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Speaker 1: We've hugged it out.

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Speaker 2: You then started taking ice and then beating your own.

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Speaker 2: That was Andrew.

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Speaker 1: We do look similar these days, don't you know what

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Speaker 1: amazes me about that? Dude's life is down the toilet

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Speaker 1: like he is low, low, low, But damn he looks good.

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Speaker 2: I saw the news story today he was found again

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Speaker 2: with an ice pipe or something, allegedly, and I looked

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Speaker 1: You actually look fairly with it. It's like he could

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Speaker 1: cat along, but he's still with an ice pipe. Of course,

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Speaker 1: you know, Mane very much mirrors my life. Have you been?

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Speaker 2: Have you been Yeah good. Sorry about the long time

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Speaker 2: between drinks. It's just been a bit of a scheduling nightmare.

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Speaker 2: I've been on holiday. You went on holiday and we

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Speaker 2: just couldn't make it work. And then you move studios

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Speaker 1: We've got a brand new driver show studio and this

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Speaker 1: sh mick. It actually sounds good so far. Everything's working

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Speaker 1: a diffuse light.

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Speaker 2: It's quite something.

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Speaker 1: That's to keep the mozzies away. We did have an

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Speaker 1: outback that we should probably never publish. So yeah, I've

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Speaker 1: been away. Oh my god. Right, I went to Thailand. Yes,

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Speaker 1: So the craziest cars that you see in Thailand, right,

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Speaker 1: this is the thing I love about that country, like,

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Speaker 1: the ping pong bull shows that I frequented, a lot

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Speaker 1: of people go to Thailand to like learn how to

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Speaker 1: kickbox and stuff. I learned to do ping pong. No, no,

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Speaker 1: mister Gordy, no, you have to give it thrust anyway.

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Speaker 1: So what I loved is I saw a whole bunch

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Speaker 2: There you go, that's you. I like that, that's that's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw a I saw a Masda too, which

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Speaker 2: Ev Oh but that was deranged.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so that was fine. But did you notice as well?

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Speaker 2: And I've noticed this before when I've been to Thailand

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Speaker 1: They're very bizarre. One other thing I saw was I

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Speaker 2: No, we don't. But that's basically like when we've written

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Speaker 1: I think I would do. It was actually quite cool.

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Speaker 2: Look, they released a new version of it, and I

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Speaker 2: I just think it's a cool looking thing. In terms

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Speaker 1: One thing I loved about our break was watching this

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Speaker 1: Cherry Tiggo Pro Max.

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Speaker 2: It's actually the Tigo eight Pro Max Ultimate.

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Speaker 1: And I just the comments were amazing, Like the comments

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so this thing is very cheap. It's like under

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Trevor's Cooper Born actually comes with it in built.

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Speaker 1: Last night's rain d and Beef Curry part you just

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Speaker 1: Which pool You've lost me? Pooh? I assure him talk

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Speaker 3: The cheery Tigo Ultra Absorbant temper and whenever the fact

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my favorite was can we test those fragrances for carcinogens?

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Speaker 2: Not what I'm suggesting the Chinese would cut corners or

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Speaker 2: thing that I fight funny, Like, firstly, no one is

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Speaker 1: It's such an old way of thinking. It's such an

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Speaker 2: And the other thing that's kind of just crazy about

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Speaker 1: A lot of profit. Yeah, and it's been more happy

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like if you can take twenty grand, even Tesla

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Speaker 2: it just shows you how much money everyone else is

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Speaker 1: So they announce that price dribe. I mean, you jump

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Speaker 2: So if you can see the speeder, which I can't.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but the problem is they've always been very expensive

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Speaker 2: And that's where the EV game has really leveled the

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Speaker 2: So I'm sort of exaggerating a bit there, but like,

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Speaker 1: Gee, that sounds fun, the Automotive Dealers Association.

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Speaker 2: There was a lot of women in the room just

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Speaker 1: So basically, did you tell those dealers that they're a

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Speaker 2: Yes, Andrew still buys a fever bit of stuff from them.

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Speaker 2: What's Andrew still buys a febit of stuff from him?

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Speaker 1: Who's Andrew?

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Speaker 2: Okeith?

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Speaker 1: I got on that one cook?

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I got a barbecue out.

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Speaker 2: So we had a slide up there that showed all

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Speaker 1: What are we looking at. We're looking at a few

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Speaker 2: Let me read some of them out to you because

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Speaker 2: of these. So the one that's just around the corner

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Speaker 2: and a small car.

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Speaker 1: Are they Are they a derivative of MG.

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Speaker 2: No, they're a derivative of go to my list here Ghily,

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Speaker 2: which is Volvo's parent company. So you've got Jack Motors

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Speaker 2: Jac they're about to launch a ute. You've got Smart,

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Speaker 2: which is now half owned by the Chinese. Are about

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Speaker 2: Smart have been around for a while, yeah, but now

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Speaker 2: owned by partly owned by China. Jku, which is a

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Speaker 2: luxury mediumsuv turned j Cuo's mate turn jus.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah, hold the mustard, hold the Master Crispy Noodles. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'll have the prawn Cracker. Complimental Management.

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Speaker 2: That'll be grad x Peng, which there is a cream

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Speaker 2: I feel like I've owned Teslas now for five years

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Speaker 2: So I come on, come on down, you little daily

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Speaker 1: Yes, you got rid of the kd Lang, No, the

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Speaker 1: It's funny because I rang him up and I said

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Speaker 1: And he's like, wow, you could probably get about forty

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Speaker 1: here's the thing less than twelve months ago. That was

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Speaker 2: You're going to edit this bit out? Let's have a look. Yep,

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Speaker 2: Sorry?

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Speaker 2: Car conditions. So service history, well, I mean it's complete, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: It's never even been taken into the ten thousand kilometers.

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Speaker 2: Can I can I explain something to you. So the

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Speaker 2: So let's pretend he pays thirty seven for it.

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Speaker 1: He'll paid thirty nine. He's already off in thirty nine. Y.

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Speaker 2: Let's pretend he pays thirty nine. He then needs to

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Speaker 2: But this is the thing, right, you have to list it,

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Speaker 2: you have to pay car sales the extortion and amount

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Speaker 2: So the whole reason services like this exist so you

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Speaker 2: or you just take a hit on it and just

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Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? It's a grand? A

440
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:48,640
Speaker 1: grand is a grand? I mean you're looking at what

441
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Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty for.

442
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:53,399
Speaker 2: A car sales ad Oh, no, like four hundred? Is it?

443
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:53,840
Speaker 1: Yeah?

444
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:54,159
Speaker 2: Is it?

445
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 1: Really?

446
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 2: That's why it's such a waste of time listing on

447
00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,000
Speaker 2: car sales A while so expensive.

448
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,440
Speaker 1: So yeah, look, there's probably a little bit of there's

449
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 1: probably a little bit of that, yeah at this point.

450
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,680
Speaker 1: And like, plus, I'm in no real hurry to drive

451
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,679
Speaker 1: it because I've got another car that I'm driving. You're

452
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 1: already so obviously with the fuel consumption issues, and obviously

453
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:24,800
Speaker 1: I'm very concerned about the environ I have. I've made

454
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 1: the sweet cho go on, flick the sweech, I've gone

455
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:33,440
Speaker 1: the ev path. Yes, you're already Genesis GV sixty. Oh

456
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:34,879
Speaker 1: that's cute.

457
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 2: It's unfortunate.

458
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 3: It's cute.

459
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 2: Have you seen it? Seen it? Yeah, I've got it,

460
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:40,359
Speaker 2: You've seen it.

461
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 1: It's beautiful, it's got it's midnight blue and it's got

462
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 1: lovely sort of cream white interior. And do you know

463
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 1: what I love about it? At the most is the

464
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:56,199
Speaker 1: little patchwork on the interior, on the leather interior, it's diamonds,

465
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 1: but they're g's. Some would say genesis. I'd say little

466
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 1: g forgot I. And you know what else I like

467
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,440
Speaker 1: about it was when you park it, little crystal ball,

468
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 1: appeal crystal ball. So here's what I will say. Might

469
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 1: not you at first glance, I know what you're thinking.

470
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 1: Second second, and third glance, you're thinking, Wow, that's luxurious.

471
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 1: It's very opulent. It doesn't really suit my personality. I

472
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 1: like a fast car, you know, so as a daily

473
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:34,239
Speaker 1: I can tell you right now, I do like and

474
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,639
Speaker 1: I've always said this, I reckon like Eve for a

475
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 1: daily commuter is the best way to go. I just

476
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 1: I fucking I've driven Porsches in traffic before and it

477
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 1: was an absolute nightmare to own a Porsche as a

478
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 1: daily for me in Sydney traffic. So this is just

479
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 1: I can just fucking kick back, slide along. I feel

480
00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:01,880
Speaker 1: a bit luxurious. It feels nice, and you know the yeah,

481
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 1: the little cameras asah, oh.

482
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 2: You you are trying to make this sound great.

483
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 3: I'm not.

484
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 1: You think I'm polishing a turd. I'm not. It's not

485
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 1: don't think.

486
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a turd. I just think that

487
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,160
Speaker 2: platform that is the worst car on that platform.

488
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 1: No, yes, the worst.

489
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 2: I think it looks weird. And those cameras are just

490
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 2: diabolically bad. And that gearstick thing is the stupid yes.

491
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 1: Little circle, you don't like it? No, what I hang

492
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 1: on here?

493
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 2: I did that.

494
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:41,440
Speaker 1: If you go, if you went, say the Ionic five,

495
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: not the End, which is the greatest ev known to man,

496
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,640
Speaker 1: but just the Ionic five. I mean that's the same

497
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 1: platform as a GV sixty, right yep, so you reckon

498
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 1: the GV sixty drives worse than the Ionic.

499
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 2: Just in terms of the looks. I just think it looks.

500
00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:03,120
Speaker 2: It just looks very weird. And yeah, just the gearstick

501
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 2: thing I don't love. And the mirrors, and the mirrors,

502
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,120
Speaker 2: regardless of which car that is on. I never once

503
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 2: experienced digital mirrors that actually work. Please tell me didn't

504
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 2: buy it?

505
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, okay, So look it's there's bad. It's

506
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 1: there for as long as I like, or until they

507
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 1: hear you mouth off bad things about it. So thanks

508
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 1: for that. Someone looks like I'm back in the ah. Look,

509
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 1: I say, look, and that's genuinely. They totally understand it.

510
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:34,880
Speaker 1: For me, it's like it's a warts and all. It's

511
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 1: like I will say that the exterior of the car

512
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 1: is the thing I like the least. The inside I like.

513
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: Genuinely stand by it. I think it does feel great,

514
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:50,400
Speaker 1: the little crystal bally circular thing. I think what yun

515
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 1: Day products do really well is they sort of switch

516
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:54,679
Speaker 1: it up a bit in the Young Days where they

517
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 1: have the stalk. At the start, I didn't like the stork,

518
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 1: but I ended up really quite enjoying this stalk. I

519
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,360
Speaker 1: thought it was fine. It makes sense for backwards. I think, ah,

520
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 1: this is just as fine as a middle thing. But

521
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:14,959
Speaker 1: so far the little circular dials is not amazing.

522
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 2: Well, the thing I'm confused by is they had to

523
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 2: make a point of difference, right, and they wanted to

524
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 2: make a luxurious kind of but while it's like, that

525
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 2: is storage space you could have had. And also that

526
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 2: platform supports the stalk, so just put it on a

527
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,679
Speaker 2: stalk and figure out some other gimmick.

528
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 1: Excuse me, it has a crystal ball when it parks.

529
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: I'm driving around in a car like Liberachi. Frankly, it

530
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:50,120
Speaker 1: goes with my glitter pads. Yes, my bumbless glitter pads

531
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 1: looks so so far, so good.

532
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 2: It's got some first, just get this in quickly. It's

533
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 2: the first G spot you've hit in a while because

534
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 2: it's just on the seat and it's the G.

535
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: That's pretty good. It's hard to miss. Take the rest

536
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 1: of the podcast.

537
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 2: I think that was enough joke for another six months.

538
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 1: It's just that you're really tapped down big there. Hit

539
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 1: the showers, big boy, quite literally. I'll follow you in.

540
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:21,120
Speaker 1: I've got a genesis. You know what I will say though,

541
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 1: and generally mean it. It does. It does a few

542
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 1: things really well. By the way, the cameras as your

543
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 1: side mirrors, I didn't think I would get used to them,

544
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,439
Speaker 1: but I'm getting I'm getting used to them.

545
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 2: Reverse parking, that's where I think they're the worst.

546
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: It's a big it feels big to reverse.

547
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, like those mirrors. They just don't work for reversing

548
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 2: the thing.

549
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 1: I okay. The one thing I'll say at the top

550
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 1: of the list. It beeps or like, I'll be a

551
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 1: foot away from a pole. And do you know I

552
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 1: had a taxi driver once and he actually got out

553
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,160
Speaker 1: of his car. I didn't know what he was doing.

554
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: I was such an eadiot at the time. I didn't

555
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 1: really I wasn't really cultured like I am now. And

556
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 1: I was looking out the window like, what's he doing something?

557
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 1: Why does he keep looking under the car? What?

558
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 3: What?

559
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: And then I was like, all right, you're right, And

560
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 1: then I realized he was having a prey. He wasn't

561
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 1: looking under the car.

562
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,120
Speaker 2: He was like, yeah, I think that's just a stupid

563
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 2: thing to be doing. Well, you've got a customer, but when.

564
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 1: You got to go, you go go. Have you ever

565
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: jumped in a car right that you've been looking forward

566
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: to for so long? And you're like, oh, give me

567
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 1: one example real quick, you.

568
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 2: Go yours first. I didn't even think about this.

569
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 1: Well, the very first we haven't reviewed properly an Alpha

570
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: product Alpha Romeo.

571
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 2: That's because no one buys them FEV and especially that one.

572
00:28:55,880 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I actually think Alpha products a beautiful the

573
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 1: do you call it? Do you say Julia or Gulia?

574
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 2: The Julia Julia and the Stelvio look good, but that

575
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 2: Tinari looks I feel great.

576
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: I think the really, I think it's got a good bump. Look,

577
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: the lights look good when you turn them on. They

578
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 1: have that kind of shape. I think it's quite a

579
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: quite a nice looking suv and it certainly feels nice

580
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 1: on the inside. It does feel premium and you're like, oh,

581
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: this is the leather feels really good and just just

582
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: a little bit shit, just like just I can't. I

583
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: was driving along thinking what is it about this that

584
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: I really don't like? And the suspension, just the whole

585
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: feel of the car just didn't seem right at all.

586
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: The suspension was way off, like it just the whole

587
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: thing felt rigid, and I was I was so disappointed.

588
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 1: Another another car that I thought would blow my mind,

589
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: and it was just fine, are you ready for this?

590
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get so much hate for saying this. I'm

591
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: just preparing for the onslaught of hate. Was the WRX

592
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: Club Spec?

593
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,959
Speaker 2: Oh, yes, there is. It's not what it used to be.

594
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 1: No, And like the Club Spec, I think it looks

595
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: pretty cool. It's got the big wing up the back,

596
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: it's got some bits and pieces, it's got some faux

597
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: carbon fiber on in the inside. They could have tuned

598
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: it a little better. They could have made it sound better.

599
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: It doesn't sound any different in my view to a

600
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: normal WRX. They're putting a premium on it, and there's

601
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: like they're fully going out of their way to say

602
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: how limited edition it is, and you can't buy it anywhere.

603
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: It's like I don't care though, Like they've got little

604
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 1: plates on there. Oh this is number five of one hundred.

605
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 1: I think there is only one hundred in Australia. I

606
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: was so I thought it would be so much better

607
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: than it was.

608
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one of those cars that just has something brilliant.

609
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 2: It's just super for you. Yeah, for me, I was

610
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 2: just having a bit of a think about this. It's

611
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 2: a bit of a backhanded compliment, but for me it

612
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 2: was the GWM Tank five hundred.

613
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: Now reason three hundred the other day. Yeah.

614
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 2: The reason I say that it was more just the

615
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 2: hybrid that was a bit shit. It had moments where

616
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 2: it really shone and excelled, but then the rest of

617
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 2: the time it was just so confused of itself and

618
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 2: didn't really know what it was doing. And it's a

619
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 2: shame because they have a V six available overseas that

620
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 2: would do really well here because the rest of the

621
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 2: specs really stack up nicely. The interior is amazing, like

622
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 2: the doesnt it is so good so yeah, it's one

623
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 2: of those ones where I was just like, I just

624
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 2: wish it was just a little bit better than this, But.

625
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, a little bit. I think that was like lacking

626
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: refinement and a few bits definitely.

627
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, not a huge amount, but it was just that

628
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 2: little bit that it needed to fix. So but yeah,

629
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 2: I don't know that the car market's interesting at the moment.

630
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 2: We've got this huge on slaughter of Chinese brands and

631
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 2: everywhere I go there are cars sitting around on dealer

632
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 2: lots and in storage like the done a lot of

633
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 2: airport trips recently in near Melbourne Airport. The storage yards

634
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 2: there Sydney as well, there are just cars sitting there.

635
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 2: And I think we're reaching a point where there's a

636
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 2: big glood of cars. And it's great if you're a

637
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 2: car buyer at the moment because it means that you

638
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 2: can pick up a good deal. Everyone is going to

639
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 2: be doing deals, but there is a bit of a

640
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 2: little bit of where do I want to use here.

641
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 2: There's a bit of falseness to those deals because if

642
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 2: you have a look at something like a ray of

643
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 2: four that's gone up like ten twenty thirty percent over

644
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 2: the past sort of five years, it's become a lot

645
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 2: more expensive and nothing has really changed. So when they

646
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 2: do a deal, and Toyto won't do that anytime soon,

647
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 2: But when a brand does a deal, you're not actually

648
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 2: really getting that much of a discount. You're just paying

649
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 2: less of an inflated price than you would have been otherwise.

650
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's a funny old market at the moment.

651
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think we're about to be flooded with

652
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: a lot of choice, as you said, with the Chinese cars.

653
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: So I think we could even hit a situation where

654
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: the baseline of car I don't know what would call

655
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: it quality or is there going to be cars that

656
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: we just go Is there anything in the market that's

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Speaker 1: standing out that's just great, not that expensive, is just

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Speaker 1: above the line, because like it's now going to be well,

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Speaker 1: I don't know necessarily think it's going to be raised,

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Speaker 1: but there's certainly.

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Speaker 2: The problem is now brands like Mitsubishi with the Triton,

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Speaker 2: they get lost now because the Trenton used to be

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Speaker 2: a value proposition and it's now become expensive more expensive.

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Speaker 2: The value proposition is now with the Chinese brands, which

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Speaker 2: there's more of coming in the dual cabute market. Absolutely,

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Speaker 2: the premium stuff is better than even the new Triton,

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Speaker 2: so you can't charge more for it. So you're just

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Speaker 2: in this middle ground where no one really has a

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Speaker 2: reason to buy you. So I think a lot of

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Speaker 2: brands are going to fall into that, and brands like

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Speaker 2: Citron and Persia, I mean, I think they are going

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Speaker 2: to be some of the first victims to all this stuff,

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Speaker 2: Asuzu as well. Like we've got all these new emissions

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Speaker 2: regulations coming next year and you have to sell electric

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Speaker 2: cars to offset the fines that you're going to get.

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Speaker 2: I assume it has no electric cars, they don't electrify anything.

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Speaker 2: So you're going to get to a point next year

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Speaker 2: where they're going to get these big fines that they

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Speaker 2: pass on to customers, and all of a sudden, the

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Speaker 2: thing that was actually a good value for money is

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Speaker 2: now very expensive.

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Speaker 1: That's a good point. And they're well built. They're well

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Speaker 1: built cars as too. I think they've got it. They've

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Speaker 1: certainly got a place.

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Speaker 2: And just on the Chinese cars again, you've got one

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Speaker 2: hundred and almost thirty car brands in China. Over half

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Speaker 2: of those started in the last ten years, so you

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Speaker 2: Australia has like sixty something car brands and it's one

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Speaker 2: of the most saturated markets in the world, so you're

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Speaker 2: going to have the potential for another ten or twenty

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Speaker 2: car brands to be here. I mean brands like Alfa Romeo.

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Speaker 2: Why would anyone buy one when you've got cheap options

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Speaker 2: with the Chinese premium stuff, with Toyota and the other brands.

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Speaker 2: It's really interesting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think the average family is going

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Speaker 1: to be looking at a lot of these cars and going, well,

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Speaker 1: hang on, that car is fifteen thousand dollars less than

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Speaker 1: that other car I'm looking at. Plus it's comes with

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Speaker 1: a seven year warranty. What's this bad stuff I'm hearing

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Speaker 1: about Chinese cars? I don't get it. I just drove it.

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Speaker 1: The average person isn't going to find like find the

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Speaker 1: you know, they could get in a tank three hundred

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Speaker 1: and get in a GEP Wrangler yep, and it's I

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Speaker 1: think for most people they'll just kind of going, well,

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Speaker 1: I can't really tell the difference.

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Speaker 2: Well, when it comes to money, people care less. If

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Speaker 2: you go the supermarket, if you've got an Australian made

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Speaker 2: product that's double the price at some point you're going

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Speaker 2: to go, Well, I want to support Australian made, but

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Speaker 2: I also want to eat and not be broke. So

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Speaker 2: I can see that in the car world's that's where

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Speaker 2: this is going to head. So it's interesting times.

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Speaker 1: I think we should wrap this up. Should we cue

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Speaker 1: the wrap up music and just put it in there? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Go for it, go for a queue, all right.

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Speaker 1: So listen before we go. Here's what we've discovered about

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Speaker 1: each other today. You're driving a Ford Markeye. Is that

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Speaker 1: it staying a Markey? Why didn't you just take the

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Speaker 1: normal Mustang?

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Speaker 2: They look great, by the way, because A it's not

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Speaker 2: electric and B it doesn't fit family things.

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Speaker 1: I what you can fit a kid in the back

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Speaker 1: of the eyes? I did.

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Speaker 2: And also they keep delaying the new Mustake.

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Speaker 1: Yes that's true, Yeah they do. Many of minds ordered

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Speaker 1: it and he's been pushed back heaps. I'm driving a

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Speaker 1: Genesis GB sixty and I'll say it like that every

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Speaker 1: time we talk about it. I'm going to say it

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Speaker 1: like this.

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Speaker 4: The Genesis GB sixty. I drove it to my salon today.

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Speaker 4: Steven loves it. I love it more Genesis.

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Speaker 2: I'm keen to hear from anyone who's still listening to

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Speaker 2: this at this point. Would you buy China? You have

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Speaker 2: to finish, you have to do the whole thing.

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Speaker 4: Genesis has to be the exact same every time. Makes

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Speaker 4: me moist every time I.

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Speaker 2: Drive it to the zelle.

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Speaker 4: For the time I put my pop here pathlay into

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Speaker 4: the front seat. He's such a cheeky kulud cheeky bitch,

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Speaker 4: such a ch.

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Speaker 1: An emotional. There's a cheek bitch.

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Speaker 4: He's sniffing for.

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Speaker 1: A bone, looking off as a bonus.

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Speaker 2: Would you buy a Chinese car? I'm genuinely curious. I

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Speaker 2: know a lot of people say they wouldn't, But if

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Speaker 2: you had to, would you buy a Chinese car? And

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Speaker 2: if not, why not contact at the Drivers Show dot com?

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Speaker 2: That are you? I don't think we're going to try

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Speaker 2: and commit to doing these a little more often.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's completely up to you contractually. Yes, there is,

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Speaker 1: there's your signature, and there is my gun sound to us.

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Speaker 1: See you next week. Everybody