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Speaker 2: Hey, Katie, how are you going.

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Speaker 3: I'm very well, congratulations. How are you feeling.

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Speaker 1: Well, look, you've got a few messages coming through already

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Speaker 3: What an effort.

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Speaker 1: She'll bring true independent and alternative views to Parliament and

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Speaker 2: Jerry. He's certainly someone who showed how you can be

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Speaker 1: Now, what are your first steps in terms of what

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Speaker 2: I think we have a lot of that information already.

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Speaker 1: Well, remember four well incoming member for Johnson. Getting a

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Speaker 1: Well, justin thank you so much for your time this morning.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you again very soon.

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Speaker 2: Okay, thanks Katie, see your bye bye.