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Speaker 1: Today I'm your host, Georgie Stevenson, and this is the

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Speaker 1: Rise and Conquer Podcast. This is the podcast where which

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Speaker 1: have mindset, self development and becoming your higher self mix

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Speaker 1: of us as the perfect combo of brunch with your

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Speaker 1: in your journey, We're here to help you be curious,

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Speaker 1: pull yourself out, and embrace radical self awareness.

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Speaker 2: If you're ready to get into.

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Speaker 1: The driver's seat of your own life and stop letting

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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Rise and Conker

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Speaker 1: Potty and Happy Friday. Today we have our fifth and

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Speaker 1: final episode of our Motherhood series in celebration of our

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Speaker 1: new course Rebirth, doing motherhood on your own Terms, and

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Speaker 1: we have the most amazing interview with Stacy Holland, the

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Speaker 1: founder of Lost Minerals. I've worked with The Last for

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Speaker 1: She's actually recently come back from a four month trip

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Speaker 1: quick week update, a tea the retroid really messed up

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Speaker 2: Too, and the full moon at.

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Speaker 3: The same time, it was just a recipe for chaos.

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Speaker 2: I felt it very internal.

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Speaker 5: So I am Stacey Hollins, a mother of two very cute,

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Speaker 2: So incredible.

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Speaker 1: You wear all the hats and I love.

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Speaker 1: it's so incredible that LUSS came from obviously such a

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Speaker 2: For a team.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

447
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 5: Absolutely, and it just allows them to grow because if

448
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 5: they're growing, so is the brand exactly.

449
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 2: Oh that's beautiful.

450
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:19,399
Speaker 1: Well let's switch gears and let's chat motherhood and business and.

451
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 2: Just all those things.

452
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,879
Speaker 1: So I know recently you went on a trip with

453
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,400
Speaker 1: your family which just it looked really really beautiful, and

454
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 1: I know you're supposed to only go for like six weeks,

455
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 1: and then it turned into I think around four months.

456
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 2: Can you tell.

457
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 1: Us about that experience and what it was like.

458
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 5: I think for me, Yeah, we decided we were going

459
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 5: to go for six weeks, and I think it was

460
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,160
Speaker 5: at the second or third stot where like, we can't

461
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:48,200
Speaker 5: go home, and I think someone like myself, and I'm

462
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:48,640
Speaker 5: sure that.

463
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 4: You're very much the same.

464
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 5: Everything's a goal, and when you get the goal, there's

465
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 5: another goal, and when you get that, there's another thing,

466
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,160
Speaker 5: and there's another thing. And I got to a point

467
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 5: where I had all the things, but I didn't have

468
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 5: time with the family, and I didn't have time with

469
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 5: my kids. And I got to a point where I

470
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 5: realized that Tommy was in Grade one, he was six

471
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 5: and a half this year, Sophia's in KINDI and she's four,

472
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 5: and I felt like I had missed out on everything.

473
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,479
Speaker 5: I know that's not the case, because I'm in their

474
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 5: life every morning and every afternoon, but it was just

475
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,399
Speaker 5: this feeling that I had just missed out on the

476
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 5: opportunity because once the kids are in school, they're in

477
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,880
Speaker 5: school five days a week, so it was just thing

478
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 5: when we were on holidays, although I was still working

479
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 5: full time, I was like, this is where I need

480
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 5: to be. This is the season living in my van

481
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 5: traveling for four months was the season that was necessary

482
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,919
Speaker 5: before we got into routine or school and everything like that,

483
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,239
Speaker 5: and just be with the kids and experience them and

484
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 5: cuddle them on the bed and have time because prior

485
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,360
Speaker 5: to that, Stacey was all right, what's next, bedtime, bath time?

486
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 4: Routine?

487
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 5: Like I was, you know, very go go, go, go go,

488
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 5: and I never had time just to sit and cuddle

489
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 5: them on the bed and read them a book. So yeah,

490
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 5: it was just a necessary season for me to reset

491
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 5: my normal and realize that although goals and ambition is

492
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 5: very necessary, it is for someone like me, it also

493
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 5: needs to be that component of presence and time with

494
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 5: the family because there is only one life and once

495
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 5: they get to school and they.

496
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 4: Get big and there's no babies anymore. So yeah, it was.

497
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 4: It was hard, but it was it was necessary and

498
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 4: it was amazing.

499
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 1: Wow, what a moment and what a season this is.

500
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 1: You know, this might and let me know if you

501
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 1: don't want to answer this, but you know, do you

502
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:35,120
Speaker 1: ever regret how much time you spent in your business

503
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 1: at the beginning, meaning you know, you didn't get as

504
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 1: much time with your two beautiful babies.

505
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,239
Speaker 5: I think part of me says yes, but part of

506
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 5: me says no, because if I didn't put the hard

507
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 5: yards in then we wouldn't be where we are today.

508
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 5: And I have a little bit more I shouldn't say freedom,

509
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 5: but I have a little bit more flexibility whereas, And

510
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 5: to be honest, I am not a big maternal mum.

511
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 5: I am a much better mom wife, you know boss

512
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 5: being at work and coming home and leaving work at

513
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 5: home and then being with the kids. So I think

514
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 5: part of me says yes, but part of me says no.

515
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 5: It's really important that I put in that time because

516
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 5: I'm aware of it now and I'm getting that time

517
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 5: back now.

518
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 1: And something I have kind of been pondering on, and

519
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:28,439
Speaker 1: it's interesting because I actually had a conversation with someone

520
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 1: and she used to be a nanny, and she was saying,

521
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,360
Speaker 1: you know, she had these two families that she used

522
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: to work for quite regularly, and one of the families

523
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 1: was the mom was like a very high up corporate mom.

524
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,919
Speaker 1: So she she worked pretty long hours and she wouldn't

525
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,679
Speaker 1: get home till you know, six, So the kids were

526
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 1: a little bit older, but she used to pick them

527
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: up from school do the afternoon and then the mom

528
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 1: would get mum and dad would get home, and then

529
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 1: she you know, would see the next day and did

530
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 1: a lot of that side.

531
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:03,640
Speaker 2: And then the other family.

532
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: She worked for, the mom was a stay at home mom,

533
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 1: and she just used to you know, come in and

534
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,880
Speaker 1: help the stay at home mom where she did various things.

535
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 1: And she was saying to me, it was really interesting

536
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 1: because the family where the mom was the you know,

537
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 1: corporate business mom, the children were actually so much more

538
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,880
Speaker 1: closer to their mom because she noticed when the mom

539
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 1: got home how intentional her time was with her children.

540
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,919
Speaker 1: And then she noticed the stay at home mom, you know,

541
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 1: she was on her phone a lot, and she almost

542
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: wasn't present, and you know she I guess she was saying,

543
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: because I was talking to her about sometimes I feel

544
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 1: guilty about, you know, working and not spending as much

545
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 1: time with Ivy as some of the moms do, and

546
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 1: she kind of reaffirmed to me, it's like, it's really

547
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 1: not about the time, it's about your intention when you

548
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,199
Speaker 1: do have the time. And she even like made a

549
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 1: note that the corporate mom, like her kids were like

550
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: would talk to her and tell her things and they

551
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: had this really beautiful bond that like felt really special

552
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: and sacred, whereas you know, the other family, the kids

553
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 1: were you know, going off and very disconnected and doing

554
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 1: all things, doing all types of things, and the mom

555
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: had no idea, and so of course there's like, that's

556
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: not me putting a judgment on anyone, and that's just

557
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: a very certain experience. But I guess it is such

558
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: a beautiful reminder that you know, time doesn't.

559
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 2: Always mean more love.

560
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 1: It's about your intention with that's you know, with your

561
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: children and the specific time you have. But then I

562
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: do know from personal experience, when you are, you know,

563
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: building a business and your business is almost you know,

564
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: another baby, it can be hard to be intentional with

565
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: your time when you actually get home because you're thinking

566
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 1: about the business and vice versa. And I have I've

567
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: lived that, and I you know, have struggled through that,

568
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 1: and I was wondering if you know, if you had

569
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: a similar experience or what you felt during those times.

570
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 5: I think you've hit the nail on the head, like

571
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,239
Speaker 5: it's the present time with the kids, and sometimes it's

572
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 5: as little as ten minutes you have that one on

573
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 5: one time, your undivited attention and then they're happy and

574
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 5: they're happy to go off and play, and that's when

575
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 5: you can get the washing done or get dinner ready.

576
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 4: But yeah, I think you're right. I was that mum.

577
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 4: I was the mom that wasn't there.

578
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 5: I was here physically with my son because I was

579
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 5: with him for his first three years, and I was

580
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 5: with him, but I wasn't really there. I probably don't

581
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 5: really remember a lot of the time, whereas with Sophia

582
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 5: I went back to work straight away and James and

583
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 5: I actually switched roles like Tim and yourself are going

584
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 5: through at the moment, and I was a much better mum.

585
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 4: And I feel like.

586
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 5: I connect a lot more to Sophia than I did

587
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 5: with Tommy. And I had three years with Tommy, whereas

588
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 5: I had not even nine months with Sophia.

589
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 4: So I think it's right.

590
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 5: It's more about the time and how present you are

591
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 5: during that time, And it can be as little as

592
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 5: ten minutes, whereas you could spend a whole day with

593
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 5: that child and never connect with them, or not connect

594
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 5: with them at very long because he's doing all the

595
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 5: other things, and that's got more or less impact than

596
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 5: that ten minutes of undivided attention. So I think you've

597
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 5: hit the nail on the head.

598
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: There isn't it Yeah, isn't it interesting? And it's like,

599
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: I very much like how you just expressed, and thank

600
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: you for being so raw and honest and transparent and

601
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 1: know there's no judgment, you know, in this community or

602
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 1: from me. But I experienced something so similar where honestly,

603
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 1: for Ivy's first year, I really struggled with being intentional

604
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 1: with her, and like I even the newborn stage when

605
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: I was with her twenty four to seven, I feel

606
00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: really disconnected from that time because I was in such

607
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 1: a you know state and well win and I know

608
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: that's so normal postpartum, so there is there's no you know,

609
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: shame or anything with that. But I just have started

610
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:15,239
Speaker 1: to get so much more clarity around the intention you know,

611
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: with your children is honestly what matters so much. And

612
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: just even me having such a different experience now that

613
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: I have language and identity and I've done identity work

614
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: around what sort of mother I want to be, and

615
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: me not feeling like it has to look or be

616
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: a certain way, but rather me internally knowing when I'm intentional,

617
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 1: when I'm present, and how much that matters compared to

618
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: ticking off the box. Oh I spend a day with

619
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: Ivy or oh I've stayed home today, Like that actually

620
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: doesn't matter, you know, for me personally. So I resonate

621
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 1: with that, and it is it's so interesting when you

622
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: like look back and you're like, yeah, wow, I really

623
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: you know, was not not present, you know, in those

624
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: months or times or whatever. And how different life can be,

625
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: but how present you can be when you bring that

626
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: intention there.

627
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 5: Absolutely, and I see my frustrations come out in Tommy

628
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 5: now because you know, obviously the mother I was then,

629
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 5: I was frustrated. I was trying to wear a million hats,

630
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 5: I was running around, whereas Sophia at the time that

631
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 5: I had with her, was very calm and intentional. And

632
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 5: you can see that he's got my frustrations that I

633
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 5: had when I was looking after him trying to work

634
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,959
Speaker 5: and do all the things, whereas Sophia is very calm

635
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 5: and very loving. And yeah, it's just it's just you

636
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 5: can see I can see the impact that that had

637
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 5: between the two children because they both had a very

638
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 5: different experience.

639
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: Well yeah, and it's funny you say that because Tim

640
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: even said something to me the other day. Yeah, we

641
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: me and Tim were talking about just how much more

642
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: present and intentional I've been dish since, you know, like

643
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: when I come home from work and like really being

644
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: intentional with Ivy, and like we've noticed her behavior towards

645
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: me of she's so much more softer, and she's so

646
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 1: much more like she's able to like, you know, of

647
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: course she you know, she's about to become a two

648
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: year old, so we're going through the emotions and the

649
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: tantrums and all the things. But I noticed such a

650
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: huge difference.

651
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 5: Like I.

652
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: Feel so embarrassed saying this, but I there was literally

653
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: a time where I came home from work and Ivy

654
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: saw me and cried.

655
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 4: Oh I've had that before.

656
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: And like, as a mom, that is just the most

657
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 1: fucking heartbreaking thing. And I remember being like that was

658
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: one of my wake up moments of like, holy shit,

659
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: my energy is affecting her. I literally came home to

660
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: cuddle her and she cried and.

661
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 2: Wanted to go to Tim.

662
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: This was last year, when I think she was about

663
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: eight months old, and I was like, and it just

664
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: it really it really broke me, and I was like,

665
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, and it was such a reality check

666
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: that I needed to, you know, check in with myself.

667
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: And Tim said the other day, like when I get home,

668
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: because Tim always goes Mom's home, she runs to the door.

669
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: I opened the door, she runs into my arms. And

670
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: it's because I'm like, like, I can be so intentional

671
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: and present for her now in the afternoons when I

672
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 1: get home and when I have that time with her,

673
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: and even like we always you know, say, you know,

674
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 1: it's bedtime, who do you want to you know, who

675
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 1: do you want to put you to bed?

676
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 2: And like she always picks me. Tim's like good.

677
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: But it's like those little things of like, oh she

678
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: she can feel the change of my energy, and like

679
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: I think that has just been my my favorite thing

680
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: and even for me personally, like I've noticed, you know

681
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: previously last year, Like I can be very honest with

682
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 1: you and say, there were afternoons where I'm like, I'm

683
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: finding something to do so I can.

684
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:15,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, not not go home.

685
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: But it's like, well I can, yeah, i can be

686
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: busy and do this thing and get this thing done.

687
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: Whereas now I'm like, you know, as soon as it

688
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: hits you know, two thirty or whenever I'm going home,

689
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: I'm like see's bye, I'm out. You know, no one

690
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 1: talked to me, and I can feel myself being like,

691
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 1: oh I want that time. And for me, yeah, for me,

692
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: it was just a mindset shift and it was just

693
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: you know, being so intentional at a time. So like

694
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: to see that difference now and even like reflect on it,

695
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: and I know we're laughing, but it's like it's a

696
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: bit of a journey, isn't it.

697
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 5: It's a journey and they mirror you, Like that's exactly

698
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 5: why you experience that, because they mirror your energy. So

699
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 5: now that you've got that new shift, she's seeing and

700
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 5: feeling that and that's what she's drawn to.

701
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 2: That's exactly it. And that's yeah.

702
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,919
Speaker 1: Me and Tim literally used those words as like, yeah,

703
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: she used to cry when she saw me because I

704
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: was so stressed out at work and I wasn't, you know,

705
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: there for her. But now she knows I can be

706
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:20,240
Speaker 1: there for her, so she's like, yay, mom's home. So yeah, yeah, yeah,

707
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 1: would you say that you know you balance work and

708
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: mom life, Well, do you have any tips for us?

709
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 1: You know, I'm only a new work mum, but you've

710
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 1: done it for a while.

711
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 5: I mean, to be honest, I still feel like I

712
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 5: haven't nailed it. I feel like after this season of

713
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 5: traveling and coming back and selling a house and getting

714
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 5: a new one and all of this movement and shift

715
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 5: that's happening at the moment, I still don't feel like

716
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 5: I've nailed it.

717
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 4: But I am very I think the biggest thing is

718
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 4: just be.

719
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:58,959
Speaker 5: Intentional with my time and yet just really go through

720
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,720
Speaker 5: the different seasons and just be present when you're at home.

721
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 4: I think, yeah, i.

722
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,240
Speaker 5: Still think I haven't quite nailed it yet, but I'm aware.

723
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 4: I think the.

724
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 5: Biggest thing is that I'm aware and I'm conscious of it,

725
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 5: and I'm working towards improving it. So we'll see. We'll

726
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 5: check back in a few months.

727
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: But I love the honesty, and I think there will

728
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: be seasons like and you know, stuff has happened recently

729
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: in the business where I noticed that I went through

730
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks of my energy shifting and then

731
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: Ivy's energy shifting, and you do you notice it? And

732
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: that's what I think of is the most incredible thing

733
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 1: about kids is they can almost really call you out

734
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: on your shit because it's like you kind of can't

735
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 1: fake it with them, like they they know, they feel it,

736
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: and so it's like, yeah, it's not like social you know,

737
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: on social media you can just you know, pretend or

738
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 1: you can have a front. But it's like your kids

739
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: know and they're gonna really mirror to you exactly what's

740
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: happening in your internal worlds. So it's like such like

741
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: a real life thing where you're like, wow, yep, and

742
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,720
Speaker 1: so what sort of things do you do for yourself?

743
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: Because you're, you know, crazy business business woman, You've got

744
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: a husband and kids. What sort of things do you

745
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: do for yourself?

746
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 5: Again, I think this is something I'm just newly stepping into.

747
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,919
Speaker 5: But for me, I'm just really intentional around my time

748
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,760
Speaker 5: at work now and I'm trying to have more time

749
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 5: out of the office and doing the creative things that

750
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 5: I do best. So the intention is to have fridays

751
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 5: at least out of.

752
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,439
Speaker 4: The office where I do all of.

753
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 5: My own things anything filling up my own cut because

754
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 5: if you're feeling from or you're being a mum from

755
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 5: an empty cup, it's really hard to.

756
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 4: Get a response from the kids.

757
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 5: And obviously everyone says this, fill up your cart, fill

758
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 5: up your cup. But I had this really bad limiting belief,

759
00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 5: and there's a lot of guilt over me up until recently,

760
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 5: where if I was not at work, I needed to

761
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 5: be with my kids because I'm with them for so

762
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,439
Speaker 5: like not enough time, and I wasn't giving myself time

763
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 5: to do things that I love to do for myself.

764
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 5: So that's where it comes back to what we were

765
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,479
Speaker 5: saying before. It's really important to fill up your cup.

766
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,280
Speaker 5: And when you are with them, it's only fifteen minutes

767
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 5: a day, it's really intentional and you're present and you're wisdom.

768
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 5: And then that way, I don't have as much guilt

769
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 5: if I need to go and do something for myself,

770
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 5: because up until the trip, I didn't do anything for myself.

771
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 5: I was either at work or I was at home.

772
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,240
Speaker 5: But then when I was at home, I was still

773
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 5: my mind was still at work. So yeah, I think

774
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 5: it's just taught me to just be present and remove

775
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 5: the guilt because at the end of the day, before

776
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 5: we had kids, we were still a person that had needs.

777
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 5: And if your needs aren't being met, then how can

778
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 5: you be a figure for anybody else in your life?

779
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: That's so powerful, that's so important, And so what is

780
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 1: your show, like, what does your day to day life

781
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: look like now.

782
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,760
Speaker 5: For me, I am in the office at the moment

783
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 5: four days. I will try and change that to three,

784
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 5: but at the moment, I'm in the office four days,

785
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 5: and Monday is usually like a catch up day, going

786
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,879
Speaker 5: over anything. Tuesday is a very big day for one

787
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 5: on one meets. We do alternate them, but it'll either

788
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 5: be like leaders meets with our leaders, or individual meets

789
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 5: with the team, or just a meet with the senior

790
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 5: team or marketing team. So Mondays is like my back

791
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 5: to back meeting day. Wednesday is the day that I

792
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:40,760
Speaker 5: schedule things like this, and I schedule things that are non.

793
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 4: Negotiables but aren't every week.

794
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 5: And then Thursday again is the day to move into

795
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 5: more product development and working on the business and doing

796
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 5: things that require my attention on the business and not

797
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 5: necessarily in the day to day.

798
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:55,919
Speaker 2: I love that.

799
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: And are you know dropping the kids off to school

800
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: or does James do that or what does that look like?

801
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, James does that. At the moment, I try.

802
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 5: To do drop off and pick up on a Friday

803
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:10,240
Speaker 5: because it's the one day and out of the office.

804
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 5: I just find it hard. I'm a morning person and

805
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 5: by the time you do school drop off, You're not

806
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 5: at work till nine thirty, and then if.

807
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 4: You were to do school pickup, you're leaving at two thirty.

808
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 5: And you know, between sort of nine and three, that's

809
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 5: when all the important things are happening during the working day.

810
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,720
Speaker 4: So I do struggle with that, and.

811
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 5: I prefer to just get out, get ready to go

812
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,879
Speaker 5: to work, and then have the Friday where I can

813
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 5: do that with the kids and be present and intentional

814
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 5: and not have to rush to work and rush to

815
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 5: drop them off. So yeah, James does most of that.

816
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 1: At the moment, I'm very much the same of because

817
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: Ivy doesn't wake up till six thirty, and I'm such

818
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: an early bird. I wake up usually like four four thirty,

819
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: so I'm like, it's two hours of my day that

820
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: I could have been, like, you know, at work, and

821
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 1: I wait. Preferred to get to work early, smash out.

822
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 1: All my teams starts early too, so that helps. And

823
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 1: then yeah, be able to get home in the afternoon

824
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: and you have that time with diving. That's incredible and

825
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: so a question I have been asking all the moms

826
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:18,280
Speaker 1: on our Motherhood series is what is your favorite part

827
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 1: of you know, doing motherhood on your own terms.

828
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 4: Oh, I love this one.

829
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 5: I think for me based on what we were touching

830
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 5: on before the first seven years of a child's life

831
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 5: is called their imprint years, and this is where a

832
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 5: lot of their adult traits are formed. And it's incredibly

833
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 5: important to me that I'm aware of what and who

834
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 5: are with my children. And this is part of the

835
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 5: reason why I mentioned earlier that James and I split

836
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 5: roles and swapped roles. I should say like you and

837
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 5: Tim have, because it's really important to me that the

838
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 5: right people are bringing up my children. Me having Tommy

839
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 5: for the first three years of his life was when

840
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 5: in the startup phase of lust, and I can see

841
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 5: my frustrations come out is literally mirroring me and haunting

842
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 5: me because those first years.

843
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 4: Are so time. It haunts me. Those first years, the.

844
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 5: First seven years is so critical. So it's really important

845
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 5: to me that I get to design their life with.

846
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 4: Those who I want in their life. And I know

847
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 4: not everyone has.

848
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 5: That choice, but for me, I work as hard as

849
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 5: I do to have that choice because that is my

850
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 5: choice that for the first seven years I have full

851
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 5: control over who has my kids and how their behaviors

852
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 5: impact them, and of course I suppose other things that

853
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 5: I get to design my life the way I want

854
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 5: to design. I've always been someone who didn't want to,

855
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 5: you know, do things that other people say.

856
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 4: By working with a boss, I was very important that.

857
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 5: I had my own thing and I could design my

858
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 5: own life and give that to my children because I'm

859
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 5: so aware now to our adult behaviors. Like I touched

860
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 5: on before, our form who we are, and they're from

861
00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 5: the first seven years. So the anxiety, the frustration, and

862
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 5: the depression, all of that comes from subconscious beliefs that

863
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 5: were formed before we were the age of seven. So

864
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 5: it's really important to me that, Yeah, all of this time,

865
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 5: I'm just thankful that although I'm not in the kid's

866
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 5: life every single day, every single minute of every single day,

867
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 5: I know someone who is the best role model is

868
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 5: So I think that's probably one of my favorite things.

869
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 2: Hmmm, yeah, that's I know.

870
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: I remember hearing that too and thinking, wow, this is.

871
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 2: It felt like it feels heavy, doesn't it. It feels

872
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 2: heavy of like, oh, wow, I can't fuck this up.

873
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 1: And You've got me thinking now of like what traits

874
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 1: Ivy's going to get from, Like Tim and I'm like,

875
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: she's gonna be stopped.

876
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 4: Which is good for a female.

877
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 1: I love that. Yeah, she's going to be determined and stubborn.

878
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 2: So no, that's incredible.

879
00:44:55,719 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: I really appreciate that beautiful and honest answer, and stayce

880
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 1: my love. To finish, I would love to know what

881
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 1: is the best piece of advice you've ever been given?

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Speaker 4: Ooh, best piece of advice.

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Speaker 5: I think the way you do one thing is the

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Speaker 5: way you do everything, So always show up your best

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Speaker 5: self for not only yourself but those around you.

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Speaker 4: I think that was some of the best advice that

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Speaker 4: I was given.

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Speaker 5: How you do one thing is how you do everything,

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Speaker 5: so do everything with full intentions.

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Speaker 2: I love that so much.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one of my favorite ones too.

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Speaker 2: That's incredible.

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Speaker 1: And last question, I would love to know what is

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Speaker 1: one core belief that you really hold close to your

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Speaker 1: heart that You're like, this is a belief that I'll

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Speaker 1: always carry.

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Speaker 4: I feel like I've got to. I feel like I've

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Speaker 4: got one.

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Speaker 5: That's more like, you've got one life, live it your way,

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Speaker 5: and another one. Challenges are fun, Challenges are an opportunity

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Speaker 5: to learn and grow. I feel like there's so much

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Speaker 5: feeling or subconscious belief around the word challenge, But I

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Speaker 5: love the word challenge. I'm like, yes, this is my

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Speaker 5: opportunity to learn and grow and change something. So I

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Speaker 5: think challenges are an opportunity to learn and grow something

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Speaker 5: that I love.

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Speaker 1: I love that so much and I actually haven't heard

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Speaker 1: that one, so that's incredible.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna steal that one.

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Speaker 1: I love that so much because it is it's like mindset.

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Speaker 1: Mindset is everything, and it's like your belief and emotions

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Speaker 1: around certain beliefs is then how you will go and act.

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Speaker 1: So if you can tweak it to oh, a challenge,

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Speaker 1: great moment to go. How much are you're going to

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Speaker 1: keep pushing forward and keep challenging yourself rather than being

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Speaker 1: fear based and stepping back.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And that's what I teach my team, Like, if

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Speaker 5: you've got a challenge, like I'm excited to hear it,

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Speaker 5: it doesn't need to be like a frustration or you know,

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Speaker 5: upset you or affect your day.

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Speaker 4: It's like, throwed at me, let's fix it, let's move on.

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Speaker 5: Because some of the biggest challenges we've had have been

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Speaker 5: some of the biggest churning.

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Speaker 4: Points for us as a brand.

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Speaker 5: So I think it's important to celebrate the challenges.

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Speaker 1: I love that so much, Stace, it has been such

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Speaker 1: a pleasure. We will make sure we live all the

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Speaker 1: links to you and LUs in the show notes. But

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for your time today and just

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Speaker 1: being such an incredible example of being a mother doing

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Speaker 1: motherhood on your own terms. And yeah, it has been

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Speaker 1: such a pleasure.

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Speaker 5: Thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you so much for listening to another

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Speaker 1: episode of the Rise and Conquer podcast. If you enjoyed

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