WEBVTT - Choosing YOU with Hollie Azzopardi 💗 0:00:00.560 --> 0:00:03.640 I'd like to acknowledge the traditional owners on which this 0:00:03.720 --> 0:00:08.160 episode is being recorded, the combo marry people. We pay 0:00:08.320 --> 0:00:12.360 our respects to elders past, present and emerging, and extend 0:00:12.480 --> 0:00:18.520 that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples. Today, 0:00:21.800 --> 0:00:24.639 I'm your host, Georgie Stevenson, and this is the Rise 0:00:24.680 --> 0:00:32.080 and Conquer Podcast. This is the podcast where we ch 0:00:32.120 --> 0:00:36.560 have mindset, self development and becoming your higher self mix 0:00:36.600 --> 0:00:39.440 soon with a lot of laughs, plus behind the scenes 0:00:39.479 --> 0:00:43.040 of my life running two businesses and being among Think 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:45.599 of us as the perfect combo of brunch with your 0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:49.239 besties mixed with self development. No matter where you are 0:00:49.320 --> 0:00:52.040 in your journey, we're here to help you be curious, 0:00:52.280 --> 0:00:57.880 pull yourself out and embrace radical self awareness. If you're 0:00:57.920 --> 0:01:00.280 ready to get into the driver's seat of your own 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:03.600 life and stop letting life cast you by, then you're 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:15.240 in the right place. We're back, r and C fam Hello, 0:01:17.959 --> 0:01:22.040 dear turn on your mind. Sorry guys, we are back 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:24.800 and so excited to be back in your ears. So 0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:27.760 you may have noticed, but we've got a bit of 0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:31.640 a refresh for the podcast. I personally think it looks 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:37.199 amazing because you like created it to us. I also 0:01:37.280 --> 0:01:40.720 personally think it looks great. No guys, So we reached 0:01:40.760 --> 0:01:44.800 ten million downloads. This was a huge milestone for us, 0:01:44.880 --> 0:01:48.160 and so we thought, we're taking it to the next level. 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:53.400 We're refreshing the podcast. You know, we're really embonding what 0:01:53.480 --> 0:01:56.320 we preach on here, and it involved a bit of 0:01:56.320 --> 0:02:00.920 a refresh. And also we have a very excit series 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:03.919 starting on Friday. And that told you it is allowed 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:09.960 to say, I Tea, let's just tell them. You're so 0:02:10.080 --> 0:02:13.560 tight lipped on this, I know. So basically, yes, we've 0:02:13.600 --> 0:02:16.400 got a very exciting series starting Friday. This is what 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:20.640 all the mysteriousness has been about. But today we're easing 0:02:20.720 --> 0:02:25.679 back into it and we have a beautiful Oh my god, 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:29.440 I'm obsessed with this interviewer, Tea. It was literally perfect, 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:33.400 Like I I was listening back with my mouth open, like, 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:37.880 so many golden nuggets here, so many good points. Today 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:41.280 we are chatting with Holly Azo Party. She is the 0:02:41.360 --> 0:02:43.960 author of the book The People pleas As Guide to 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:49.920 Putting Yourself First, and so we're chatting about selfishness, setting boundaries, 0:02:50.480 --> 0:02:56.200 the concept of hyper availability. Basically, if you're someone who 0:02:56.560 --> 0:02:59.000 you potentially could be a bit of a people please 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:01.800 aren't and you I will just say no, or you 0:03:01.919 --> 0:03:07.400 just feel guilty when you put yourself first. This episode 0:03:07.560 --> 0:03:10.480 is going to blow your mind. I just I loved 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:14.120 the bit where we spoke about language and how like 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:18.160 if you actually look at what word selfishness means, like 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:21.800 we're not being selfish our self first, And that was 0:03:21.960 --> 0:03:24.640 just such a big aha moment for me personally. I 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:28.040 also loved when you guys spoke about hyper availability because 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:30.360 I think it's something I hadn't thought about before, but 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:32.760 it was a pressure I put on myself, Yeah, to 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:35.680 be available to everyone at any time. Yeah, And I 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:39.040 am always like the friend that like if someone messages me, 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:41.360 I'm going to pick up my phone and respond, even 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:47.760 if I'm literally get off your phone. She's like, hang on, Georgie, 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:52.160 I've just gotta put through this. Sure. It's actually more 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:55.120 like when I'm going to bed and you're like about 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:56.880 to go to sleep and then you get a message 0:03:56.920 --> 0:03:59.920 and you're like, oh, better just reply. They like emotionally 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:02.760 dump on you or like they do something, or even 0:04:02.760 --> 0:04:04.120 if it's just like hey, I want to have a 0:04:04.200 --> 0:04:09.080 chat and I'm like I'm okay, I'm so tired. But okay, 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:11.800 oh I love that. That's such a good ahat moment. 0:04:11.920 --> 0:04:15.640 So I loved that chat in there too. This episode 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:19.440 is honestly amazing, guys. And if I will be honest 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:22.400 with you, I didn't consider myself a people pleaser, but 0:04:22.480 --> 0:04:26.280 after reading Holly's book, I did realize I had some 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:30.880 tendencies and things that especially as a mother as a wife, 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:33.560 you just think, oh, it's normal, I should just do 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:36.440 these things. But this book really makes you think twice. 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:39.200 And Holly just explains it so beautifully, and she articulates 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:42.520 everything so beautifully. Yeah, and I think if you do 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:45.159 enjoy this interview, I would recommend getting the book to 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:47.320 read because I also wouldn't have said that I'm the 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:51.120 biggest people pleaser, but after reading the book, I was like, oh, yes, 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:53.880 I don't know that was Yeah, that was me to 0:04:54.160 --> 0:04:56.800 honestly get your hands on the book. Guys, before we 0:04:56.839 --> 0:04:59.440 get into the show, to here a quick little life update. 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:01.520 What have you been doing all the week off? Oh, 0:05:01.839 --> 0:05:06.719 even though you've been working, but just had a party 0:05:06.760 --> 0:05:12.599 the whole week. No, nothing crazy, just working, going to 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:15.800 the gym. I went to see Hamilton the Musical. So 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:19.440 any Brisbane galleyes that you loved it. I loved it. 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:22.400 I'm obsessed with it. I think it's best. And also 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:24.880 me and a Tear are both seeing Harry Styles tonight, 0:05:25.520 --> 0:05:28.560 and I'm so excited for Harry Styles. So excited to 0:05:28.600 --> 0:05:31.480 see Harry. I've been listening to his music all like 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:34.240 time and like all the live shows and just like 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:35.920 I can't wait to be that. Oh, I can't wait. 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:38.520 It seem so funny. I've actually never been to a 0:05:38.560 --> 0:05:42.400 concert really, like I've been to a YouTube concert with 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:45.560 my parents, but like when I was sixteen, I've never 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:47.880 been to a concert like when I'm older. Oh my gosh, 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:51.000 you're gonna love it. I've been to festivals. I've never 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:54.599 been to festival, so that's like, I'm sure they're similar. Yeah, 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:59.080 very I would say very similar, just people aren't as drunk. Interesting, 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:01.479 So I can't wait. But yeah. I also had a 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:04.560 really beautiful weekend with my husband. We went to housing 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:07.440 and house at Cabareta and it looked beautiful on the weekend, 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:11.160 IV free and it was so good for it was 0:06:11.240 --> 0:06:15.039 really good just for us. I think when you have 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:18.160 a child, you like your relationship is like the first 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:21.640 thing you kind of like shelf because like will me 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:24.680 personally like me and team's relationship feels so solid, it's 0:06:24.680 --> 0:06:27.680 so easy to just like put it to the side. Yeah, 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:29.719 it's like it's fine, it's always going to be there. 0:06:30.200 --> 0:06:34.080 But this weekend really made me have a big think about, like, 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:37.719 you know what we talk about on this podcast, like 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:40.760 if I want an extraordinary life, if I want an 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:44.560 extraordinary relationship with my husband, like I do need to 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:46.719 put in the work and effort and I do need 0:06:46.760 --> 0:06:49.560 to prioritize it. So I'm really really happy we did 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:52.960 that for us and we had some really beautiful conversations 0:06:53.440 --> 0:06:56.200 and yeah, it was incredible. I love that. Yeah, I 0:06:56.200 --> 0:06:58.599 think like we both are like, oh, we need to 0:06:58.640 --> 0:07:00.560 do this more. So it's like it was a really 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:03.240 big goal. How often are you going to do it? Well, 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:07.040 we actually have things booked in every single month. Sometimes 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:10.440 it does sometimes it does include IVY, but we also 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:13.720 are doing the date night. But it's just more when 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:16.360 we are we actually do have some goals. A big 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:19.440 thing for us is we want to do one day 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:23.200 on the weekend no phones, just us time literally putting 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:27.400 phones in the drawer. And then also eight pm every 0:07:27.480 --> 0:07:30.040 night we have an alarm that goes off that says 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:35.360 phones away, connection time. So I will let you know. 0:07:35.680 --> 0:07:36.480 Yeah, you'll have to. 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:39.280 I'd love to know how the no phones day goes, Yeah, 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:42.240 because that's what the biggest thing that comes in between 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:46.320 me and Tim connecting is obviously Ivy. But then when 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:49.200 Ivy's not there, it's like I'm catching up on emails 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:51.720 or he's like fucking watching golf or some shit, and 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:54.600 just like because you're so like zoned from the day, 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:56.960 you just want to like zone out. And we've noticed 0:07:57.000 --> 0:07:59.920 that's such a huge, like huge barrier. Yeah, that's what 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:03.360 we're working on. I love that. So yeah, anyway, let's 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:11.000 get into the podcast. But how's the book launch going. 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:16.160 Oh my god, it's surreal. It's just surreal. Like I 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:17.920 can't believe people have it in their homes and you're 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:19.280 holding it right now, you know what I mean. 0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:23.120 I got a physical boy book. I know it's cool. 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:26.240 Hey, yeah, it feels good. It's amazing that it's out now. 0:08:27.040 --> 0:08:30.000 I was just talking to my producer, a Tia because 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:32.240 she's read it as well, and she's like, I loved 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:35.439 it so much. The only thing is she didn't want 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:37.640 to write in the book to do the active piece. 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:40.160 So she's like, I need to reread it and like 0:08:40.240 --> 0:08:42.560 do the activities over here because it's so pretty. 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:45.720 Thank you. I actually can't even take credit for the 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:49.440 design that was like the publishers. But I know of 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:52.400 people who have bought two copies, one to write in 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:54.800 and one could just pa us their nice coffee. So 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:56.840 you know, if there's that idea, and I'm not going 0:08:56.920 --> 0:08:59.160 to compline of people of buying multiple coffees as well. 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:05.080 Yeah, you're like, look, it's fine, I get esthetic exactly. No, 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:08.440 that is so so amazing. I am honestly just so 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:11.720 happy for you. I'm proud of you. It's really incredible. 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:14.640 I appreciate it and like, you know, putting yourself first, 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:15.960 like this is such. 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:17.199 An important issue. 0:09:17.480 --> 0:09:19.920 And it's funny because I've been going a lot of things, 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:23.599 going through a couple of things with people pleasing, with 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:29.080 just the thought of I haven't I feel like I've 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:32.160 never put myself in the box of I'm a people pleaser. 0:09:32.920 --> 0:09:35.240 But then as I was, you know, reading the book, 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:39.640 and as I get older, I feel like, oh wow, 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:43.920 I realized I do still need stronger boundaries and I 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:46.880 do still need to you know, think about these things 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:50.640 because much like you're say in the book of just like, 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:52.800 we don't even realize that's what we're doing. 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:56.720 And it's like, I think there's this stereotype of what 0:09:56.760 --> 0:09:59.280 a people pleaser is, which is, you know, the pushover 0:09:59.400 --> 0:10:01.360 or the person in never speaks up for themselves or 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:05.600 never chooses themselves. And that's like any stereotype, the extreme version. 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:09.400 But you look at especially for me personally, I look 0:10:09.400 --> 0:10:11.199 at the women in my life, you know, my mother 0:10:11.280 --> 0:10:15.680 and my grandmother's and the archetype of you know, you 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:17.679 always put the family first and you always do all 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:20.600 the things. It's just such a societal expectation. And then 0:10:20.640 --> 0:10:22.160 you look at that and you go hand in a second. 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:25.920 But why yeah, you don't even second guess it because 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:29.480 it literally just feels like, oh, I'm a mother of course, 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:31.720 if that makes sense exactly. 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:33.760 So it's been an interesting one because I wrote the 0:10:33.760 --> 0:10:36.320 book Pregnant I wasn't a mother yet, and then I 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:39.200 edited now in the baby stage, and I was like, 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:42.760 I actually need to learn from the maiden version of me, 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:46.840 Like this is really confronting, but it helped me through 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:50.040 that newborn stage in becoming a mother, because I was 0:10:50.040 --> 0:10:53.720 putting all the activities into practice and discovering myself again, 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:58.000 which was really amazing, so so incredible. 0:10:58.080 --> 0:11:02.640 I can imagine that being such a yeah, really raw 0:11:03.160 --> 0:11:05.680 and you know, amazing time to then edit the book 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:08.080 when you are a new mum for sure. Sorry I've 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:11.520 just gone straight into it, but I will hear this, 0:11:13.320 --> 0:11:18.560 so guys, sorry, let's backtrack. Holy welcome to the RNC podcast. 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:22.520 Honestly, I was like, are we Are we straight in? 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:24.840 Because I can I can put my podcast now. 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:28.800 I love this. Thanks for having me, guys. Me and 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:31.880 Holly are are always in each other's DM so you 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:34.800 just got a taste of us just catching up. Yes, 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:39.040 but Holly, welcome to the show. I'm so excited to 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:43.280 have you on here today and really unpack your new book, 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:47.200 people please as guide to putting yourself first. It's just 0:11:47.800 --> 0:11:51.120 it's so incredible. I've read it at Reddit Jamie's reddit, 0:11:51.320 --> 0:11:55.000 and like I said before, you should just be so proud. 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:57.920 But can you give the audience a little rundown of 0:11:58.000 --> 0:12:01.800 who you are, what you do, and how this amazing 0:12:02.320 --> 0:12:04.080 piece of art came to life. 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:06.280 Thank you, Thank you for referring to it as a 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:06.840 piece of art. 0:12:06.920 --> 0:12:08.640 That's so kind of art. 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:13.520 So yes, my name's Holly. At this phase of my life, 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:16.960 I find myself really hard to define what I'm doing 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:19.640 and who I am and like you and the reason 0:12:19.679 --> 0:12:21.960 that we slide into each other's dms. We became mothers 0:12:22.000 --> 0:12:24.480 I think, three weeks apart from each other to our 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:27.880 little girls. So the last year in my life has 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:31.160 been navigating new motherhood. But underneath all of that, I 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:33.880 am a writer and writing a book has been my 0:12:33.920 --> 0:12:36.760 biggest vision and dream since I was, you know, five 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:39.520 years old, though this book has been a long time coming. 0:12:40.120 --> 0:12:43.679 And in addition to that, I am an intuitive reader 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:48.640 and astrologer, and I mentor and guide people in the 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:51.520 space of living their best life, but with the focus 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:55.480 on spirituality and personal development. So what you'll find in 0:12:55.520 --> 0:12:59.160 this book is, yeah, a culmination of my teachings when 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:02.800 it comes to choosing you in your life no matter 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:06.760 what you're navigating. I guess practices that I use to 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:08.359 help people come back to themselves. 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:13.440 So incredible. Can I just say, when you know Ivy 0:13:13.520 --> 0:13:15.360 was a newborn and I was going through a really 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:20.520 tough time, reading your posts on Instagram honestly got me 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:25.600 through because I felt so seen and I felt so 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:30.280 you know, hearing another mother's raw and real thoughts in 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:35.239 those moments where I felt really alone and really confused, 0:13:35.480 --> 0:13:39.200 and you know, as you know, it's such a whole 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:42.840 new journey and it ripped your heart open best way possible. 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:47.480 But reading your words and really sitting with them was 0:13:47.600 --> 0:13:51.360 honestly the most incredible and comforting thing that got me 0:13:51.400 --> 0:13:52.520 through my newborn journey. 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:57.800 Oh I can't handle that. Oh you'll get me crying big. No, truly, Gal, 0:13:58.000 --> 0:14:01.200 I feel the same about you. I was, you know, 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:04.440 constantly reaching out because I feel like we did traverse 0:14:04.520 --> 0:14:08.960 such similar experiences, especially you know, through our breastfeeding experiences 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:11.680 and all of it. Really, I know our labors went 0:14:11.720 --> 0:14:14.640 similar ways, and I found comforting a lot of what 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:16.679 you shared, So I feel like it was a very 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:20.520 mutual experience. It's just so nice to have some face 0:14:20.600 --> 0:14:23.360 to face time with you after that year that's just 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:26.040 been Yeah, I know, isn't it. 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:29.040 I can't believe it's been over a year now, Like, 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:32.840 is that not just wild to think this time? You know, 0:14:33.000 --> 0:14:37.440 last year we were in the trenches and then yeah. 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:38.920 I had that realization on the weekend I was like 0:14:39.000 --> 0:14:42.480 a year ago today, my little girl was two months old. 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:45.720 I was like, no, I don't even know, like if 0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:47.680 I was, I just want to give that version to 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:50.320 me the biggest hug and be like, I promise it 0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:52.560 will be okay, because I remember at that stage I 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:54.880 was like have I what have I done? 0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:56.200 Like what I. 0:14:55.920 --> 0:14:57.280 I'm not going to be able to get through this. 0:14:57.480 --> 0:14:59.880 So it was it was not an enjoyable time for me. 0:15:00.360 --> 0:15:02.480 So how nice to be on the other side of that. 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:06.200 I know, I feel the exact same way, Like I 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:09.120 look back at memories, you know, how your phone pops 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:11.520 up this time last year sort of things, and I 0:15:11.560 --> 0:15:13.840 look back and I was like, yeah, I wish I 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:19.240 could just tell that Georgie of like it's okay and breathe, 0:15:19.520 --> 0:15:22.400 embrace the chaos, like you're going to get through this. 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:25.960 And I think also during that time, like it does 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:32.720 feel very bleak in the way of it's so it's 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:36.160 so all encompassing and so opposite to how you just 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:38.200 lived your life, and it's so soon and it's like 0:15:38.240 --> 0:15:40.840 a shock to the body. And I go back and 0:15:40.920 --> 0:15:43.920 hug her and be like, it's okay, it's gonna be 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:45.600 amazing and it just gets better. 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:48.960 It just gets better every day, especially this stage I'm 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:51.120 finding and I know we're just chatting about that. It's 0:15:51.200 --> 0:15:53.480 like I'm looking at her outside now and she's toddling 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:56.200 around and taking in the world, and to see the 0:15:56.600 --> 0:15:59.360 developmental changes and to be a part of that just 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:02.360 feels like biggest privileged. So it's very nice to be 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:05.520 on the other end of that, that newborn those newborn days, 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:07.200 for sure, I know. 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:09.920 And yeah, if anyone, if you're listening to this and 0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:13.680 you're going through something similar, just know, yeah, it gets 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:17.680 better and you're literally doing amazing at whatever capacity you're doing. 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:22.160 But let's get into the book. I I just I 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:25.560 loved this book so much. I felt like you were 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:26.880 calling me out personally. 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:32.640 It was like I feel lastly attacked, but in a 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:34.920 great way where I was like, this is so good. 0:16:34.920 --> 0:16:38.280 I'm having to look at myself and I truly believe 0:16:38.400 --> 0:16:41.760 the best pieces of you know, reading content for me 0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:45.240 is thought provoking around like, yeah, let's actually unpack this 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:48.240 and look at this. So first of all, I would 0:16:48.280 --> 0:16:51.040 love for you to, you know, talk to my community 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:54.200 just a bit about how as a type a high achiever, 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:59.080 you know, you made this change from you know, a 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:03.480 high paying, queste unquote successful corporate job to what actually 0:17:03.520 --> 0:17:07.119 fulfilled you and what that journey looked like, because I 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:11.560 very much resonate with the high achiever and being in 0:17:11.600 --> 0:17:14.680 that realm and completely shifting it. And I just think 0:17:14.720 --> 0:17:16.160 it's your journey is so incredible. 0:17:16.760 --> 0:17:20.560 Thanks Gal, Yeah, look for me. It's such an interesting 0:17:20.600 --> 0:17:23.080 one because all of it has been self imposed. I 0:17:23.119 --> 0:17:25.199 didn't come from a family of parents who were like, 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:27.680 you must work a corporate job and you know, go 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:30.960 and study after you after school. That was all me. 0:17:31.320 --> 0:17:35.000 And initially I have a journalism degree, so I thought 0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:37.720 I'd end up in print publications, but it was around 0:17:37.760 --> 0:17:41.080 the time that print was dwindling away, and so what 0:17:41.200 --> 0:17:43.320 ended up happening was I took the first job that 0:17:44.040 --> 0:17:46.919 the twenty one year old version of me thought was 0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:51.720 a real job, quote unquote, which was just so honestly, 0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:53.879 it was like I was blindfolded and I was like 0:17:54.040 --> 0:17:57.520 that one, and I ended up in strategic marketing. Had 0:17:57.560 --> 0:18:00.359 never studied marketing my life, had never studied bizz, studied 0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:03.399 business strategy in my life. Was like I can wing this, 0:18:03.600 --> 0:18:07.119 and five years into it, probably three years into it 0:18:07.160 --> 0:18:10.720 to be honest, my soul was like, what are you doing, Holly? 0:18:10.960 --> 0:18:13.359 Like this is not you. You're sitting at a partition desk. 0:18:13.920 --> 0:18:17.720 You are. I was becoming really unwell physically and mentally. 0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:20.760 It was just everything was pulling away in terms of 0:18:20.800 --> 0:18:23.480 my physical health and my mental health. I was so unhappy. 0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:26.399 I ended up crying every day on the bus into 0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:29.040 my job and back. And yet I didn't do anything 0:18:29.160 --> 0:18:33.480 to change because I was telling myself, you know, who 0:18:33.520 --> 0:18:35.480 am I to have a different life? Like what makes 0:18:35.520 --> 0:18:38.400 me special? And I didn't even know what I wanted. 0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:40.280 I knew, I knew I wanted to write a book 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:42.760 one day, but I didn't know how I would get there. 0:18:42.800 --> 0:18:45.720 And even I guess I didn't see the value or 0:18:45.720 --> 0:18:48.439 worth in me and what I had to share. And 0:18:48.920 --> 0:18:51.919 so it really took me smacking my face on bottom, 0:18:51.920 --> 0:18:53.760 as you read about in the book for me to 0:18:53.800 --> 0:18:56.119 wake up and go, I can't continue to live like 0:18:56.160 --> 0:19:00.359 this because I literally just won't be able to continue 0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:03.560 in this way. And from there it was like a 0:19:03.920 --> 0:19:07.560 massive redirection into well, what actually makes me feel good? 0:19:07.760 --> 0:19:10.560 And what are the things that light me up and 0:19:10.600 --> 0:19:13.000 what brings me join my life? And that doesn't need 0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:15.560 to make me money right away. I ended up moving 0:19:15.600 --> 0:19:18.719 back in with my in laws at the time, and 0:19:19.680 --> 0:19:21.640 you know, to save money on rent, and I went 0:19:21.680 --> 0:19:23.160 back into retail, which was. 0:19:23.160 --> 0:19:27.640 Like shattering to the ego after my degree and five 0:19:27.720 --> 0:19:30.480 years working with ASX listed companies and then there I 0:19:30.520 --> 0:19:34.040 am in my local shopping center with people from school walking. 0:19:33.800 --> 0:19:35.439 Past, and I'm like, I swear I'm going to make 0:19:35.480 --> 0:19:36.440 something of myself one day. 0:19:36.440 --> 0:19:36.960 You just wait. 0:19:38.320 --> 0:19:41.560 But it really was a mass crumbling away of everything 0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:45.600 I thought I should have achieved in my life to okay, no, 0:19:45.720 --> 0:19:48.720 what actually feels good and then rebuilding my life from 0:19:48.760 --> 0:19:49.280 that place. 0:19:49.680 --> 0:19:54.080 Yeah, so incredible. And isn't it so interesting that you 0:19:54.240 --> 0:19:57.720 often have to get to that you know, rock bottom 0:19:57.720 --> 0:20:00.240 and that pinnacle point to go to. 0:20:00.240 --> 0:20:05.320 My actually doing here and yeah, yeah, like what It's 0:20:05.359 --> 0:20:08.040 really funny about the picking the job because I was 0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:10.920 much the same, like I just randomly picked things, and 0:20:11.280 --> 0:20:13.600 it was it's very much the energy of just like 0:20:13.720 --> 0:20:14.920 whoever will have me. 0:20:16.560 --> 0:20:19.679 Take what I can get, exactly take what I can get, 0:20:20.080 --> 0:20:22.840 and then you, yeah, get in it and you're like, oh, no, wow, 0:20:22.880 --> 0:20:26.119 I really need to yeh, actually be deciding what I 0:20:26.160 --> 0:20:29.199 want to do. I love in the book that you 0:20:29.280 --> 0:20:32.600 really talk about, you know, values, and I'm sure that's 0:20:32.640 --> 0:20:36.440 something that is really strong for you now, but I'm 0:20:36.480 --> 0:20:39.040 sure at some point it wasn't. I would love for 0:20:39.080 --> 0:20:41.600 you to just give some insight of you know, how 0:20:42.040 --> 0:20:46.359 you have reframed your values and I guess even just 0:20:46.480 --> 0:20:50.359 decided on what are integral to you in your life. 0:20:50.920 --> 0:20:54.600 Yeah. So I think what it took was me having 0:20:54.680 --> 0:20:58.040 everything fall away to be forced to face, Okay, well 0:20:58.040 --> 0:21:00.080 what how do I want my life to look? Do 0:21:00.160 --> 0:21:03.160 I want it to feel? And it wasn't necessarily sitting 0:21:03.240 --> 0:21:06.280 down and doing a values based exercise like you'll find 0:21:06.280 --> 0:21:08.960 in the book. It was more. I remember I was 0:21:09.000 --> 0:21:11.760 still working my corporate job, but I took my journal 0:21:11.800 --> 0:21:14.840 out and this was totally like channeled, unprompted. I was like, 0:21:14.960 --> 0:21:18.480 I'm just going to write my dream day and I'm 0:21:18.520 --> 0:21:20.600 just going to be as specific as possible with no 0:21:20.760 --> 0:21:23.360 job title in my mind. I'm literally going to write. 0:21:23.400 --> 0:21:26.480 I wrote things like I can sleep until I wake 0:21:26.640 --> 0:21:31.680 comfortably and I start my day with yoga by the beach, 0:21:31.760 --> 0:21:34.320 you know, as an example, or I could I remember 0:21:34.560 --> 0:21:37.520 I was where I wrote I can wear my spell 0:21:38.040 --> 0:21:40.960 jumpsuit for the day, like not corporate, like that was 0:21:41.040 --> 0:21:42.359 like a pinnacle thing. 0:21:43.520 --> 0:21:43.720 You know. 0:21:43.840 --> 0:21:46.919 My day was spent reading and writing and creating. I 0:21:47.000 --> 0:21:49.240 just wrote all of these things down without knowing what 0:21:49.280 --> 0:21:52.439 it would look like, and within two years I could 0:21:52.600 --> 0:21:54.960 tick every single one of those things off in the 0:21:55.000 --> 0:21:57.960 life I had created for myself. So when it came 0:21:58.040 --> 0:22:00.600 to the values, the first thing I had to focus 0:22:00.600 --> 0:22:02.879