Speaker 1: Get everyone Sam here and a ripping guest coming up
Speaker 1: in today's show. I always think about how my training's
Speaker 1: evolved and what I do now. It's what he's to
Speaker 1: do differently, and the one constant for me no matter
Speaker 1: what things I'm trying, whether I'm trying to get more flexible,
Speaker 1: or boost my running or try swimming or cycling or
Speaker 1: whatever it is, but the one constant is always my
Speaker 1: resistance training, my strength training. It's the non negotiable for
Speaker 1: me from a training perspective, no matter what other exercise
Speaker 1: or movement is happening around it. And it's something I
Speaker 1: wasn't always the case, you know. I'd often drop my
Speaker 1: resistance training for a little while in my twenties and
Speaker 1: even early thirties. But for the last decade it's been
Speaker 1: the one thing that I will not waiver on, so
Speaker 1: much so that I still see my own personal trainer.
Speaker 1: So today we are going to bring him into the studio.
Speaker 1: He's an absolute I don't like the word guru, but
Speaker 1: he's a guru. The knowledge which this man has, the
Speaker 1: experience this man has still to this day blows me away,
Speaker 1: and he can share some of that wisdom with you
Speaker 1: all today it's Gary Matthewson, who is ex Mister Australia
Speaker 1: eight or seven times. Mister Victoria has more qualifications, degrees,
Speaker 1: certificates than you can poke a stick at. He's coming
Speaker 1: in the studio. He's going to educate me and you
Speaker 1: all on the importance of strength training, in particularly importance
Speaker 1: of strength training for beginners or women. That's coming up next.
Speaker 1: And then we're going to talk about how you protect
Speaker 1: or reserve or preserve your social energy during this very
Speaker 1: social period of the year. That's coming up a little
Speaker 1: later in the show. But now it's time for Gary.
Speaker 1: This is the Woodlife. There is a guest I'm really
Speaker 1: excited to have on the WOODLFE today. When I was twenty,
Speaker 1: I came over from Tasmania. I had my short shorts on,
Speaker 1: I had my bum bag. I was the biggest walking
Speaker 1: cliche personal trainer you have ever seen, had my slick
Speaker 1: back hair, had my little tank top on, and I
Speaker 1: joined what was probably the best personal training cheer in
Speaker 1: Australia at the time. And one of those wonderful trainers
Speaker 1: was a guy called Buff. No one ever knew his
Speaker 1: first name. He was as wide as he was tall,
Speaker 1: and he was four percent body fat, and beneath what
Speaker 1: was a fairly imposing exterior was the nicest, most knowledgeable
Speaker 1: human being you'll ever meet. And he really took me
Speaker 1: under my wing as a twenty year old. He taught
Speaker 1: me an enormous amount still to this day. So twenty
Speaker 1: three years later, I still train with Buff once a
Speaker 1: week and I go in there and we pump on
Speaker 1: and we talk about how great we were in yesteryear
Speaker 1: and we have a good old laugh, and it's one
Speaker 1: of my favorite hours of my week. I still learn
Speaker 1: at least one thing every session, and I've been doing
Speaker 1: this for twenty three years and being to UNI and
Speaker 1: taking sixty thousand PTA apartments. But your knowledge and the
Speaker 1: way you evolve your knowledge is just incredible. So it
Speaker 1: was about damn time we got you on the wood
Speaker 1: Life to talk about strength training.
Speaker 2: Welcome mate, Sammy, it's a pleasure to be here. Thanks
Speaker 2: for having me. And that is an introduction. I'd better
Speaker 2: say something because they're probably thinking there's no one there
Speaker 2: who is this boat.
Speaker 1: Your real name is Gary Matthewson, but everyone knows you
Speaker 1: as Buff and you're the big gentle giant. And it's
Speaker 1: really interesting because I think back to when we met
Speaker 1: each other twenty three years ago about how people thought
Speaker 1: about strength training, and it's evolved the life way, but
Speaker 1: it's got a long way to go. Why are you
Speaker 1: so passionate about strength training and why do you think
Speaker 1: it's so important?
Speaker 2: I mean, so we've got the obvious benefits, you know,
Speaker 2: like so getting stronger, adding muscle, you know, the ability
Speaker 2: to get leaner, hard health, brain health, posture, joint function
Speaker 2: and health. There is like a there there's stress management,
Speaker 2: looking good in your clothes, looking good not in your
Speaker 2: So they're probably the more obvious ones.
Speaker 1: So what what's the thing that drives your passion because
Speaker 1: you don't work with people to get six packs very.
Speaker 2: No, not really, not anymore. I mean with strength training,
Speaker 2: like all the biological systems in our body are upregulated
Speaker 2: and optimized, you know, so things like our gut microbiome
Speaker 2: functions and is healthier when we strength train. Our immune
Speaker 2: system gets stronger, metabolism, metabolism, all those sorts of things.
Speaker 2: You know, we manage our blood sugars more effectively, we
Speaker 2: manage our cortisol and our insulin more effectively when we
Speaker 2: strength train. We are strength training even optimizes you like
Speaker 2: your thyroid hormones and your sex hormones, so it regulates
Speaker 2: those as well, which is really important once you get
Speaker 2: the other side of say even you know, thirty and above.
Speaker 1: When I first heard about the importance of weight training
Speaker 1: or strength training as you get older, my head went to, well,
Speaker 1: it really is for the fifty five pluses, but it's
Speaker 1: not for fifty five plus. It's nice you start losing
Speaker 1: the lean muscle mass, the mobility, the bone density at
Speaker 1: one age.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so like thirty, I think, Yeah, there's a thing
Speaker 2: called psycopene era, which is age related muscle loss. So
Speaker 2: we all, you know, a lot of people think, oh,
Speaker 2: that's I don't need to worry about that because that's old.
Speaker 1: That's my people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like that's for the seventy five year olds
Speaker 2: and so forth. But the interesting thing is, mate, it
Speaker 2: happens as early as in our thirties. If we're not
Speaker 2: doing anything, they're saying, movie to lose.
Speaker 1: It couldn't be true. Yeah, it's so true. So because
Speaker 1: I know you do a lot of work on longevity
Speaker 1: and quality of life, you know, you're literally shaving decades
Speaker 1: off people's lives, and they've got a spring in their
Speaker 1: step and they're like a lot of them are nearly
Speaker 1: thrown the towel in. Yes, yeah, that was that's a
Speaker 1: young person's game. And I'll never play golf again, or
Speaker 1: I will never you know, I can barely walk up
Speaker 1: the driveway and now, so no I do. I started
Speaker 1: cycling and strength training, and I play golf and tennis.
Speaker 1: And yeah, but they're back. They're back to doing things
Speaker 1: they were doing in their thirties and forties that they
Speaker 1: haven't done for decades. Well, that's right.
Speaker 2: So I like to educate my clients on that because
Speaker 2: I believe muscle is the organ of longevity. Yeah right, okay,
Speaker 2: all right, So there's a strong correlation between the amount
Speaker 2: of muscle mass we possess and longevity. But health and longevity,
Speaker 2: but not just a long life, Samy, It's about health
Speaker 2: span as well, not just live span. I like the
Speaker 2: old saying. It's like, we don't stop lifting because we
Speaker 2: grow old, we grow old because we stop lifting.
Speaker 1: I love that. I love that our audience is predominantly women,
Speaker 1: not only but I would say eighty percent, right, So
Speaker 1: I'd love to drill down a little bit more on
Speaker 1: females doing weight training because We've got a lot of
Speaker 1: questions about females doing weight training. How many times a
Speaker 1: week would you recommend someone does weight training a female?
Speaker 2: Right, Well, depending on training age. Now what I mean
Speaker 2: by that is how long have they been training? How
Speaker 2: they beginner? They intermediate, or are they advanced?
Speaker 1: Yeah so not they're actually chronological age. But have you
Speaker 1: been in the gym for ten years or it's your
Speaker 1: first workout, that's you've been doing this for forty years?
Speaker 2: Exactly right, So I just say beginner comes in day one,
Speaker 2: it says to me or asks me the question how
Speaker 2: many how many sessions a week should I should I train?
Speaker 2: And my answer would probably be something like, if it's
Speaker 2: starting from scratch, I would probably just start with maybe
Speaker 2: to thirty to forty five minute sessions, probably even thirty
Speaker 2: to start with. Because one, we need to you know,
Speaker 2: obviously get used to putting load through our bodies, but
Speaker 2: also to we need we need to get the person
Speaker 2: a chance to build up their work capacity because it's
Speaker 2: all new and they are going to get some post
Speaker 2: workouts on.
Speaker 1: Us quality not quantity. Door you still saw from the
Speaker 1: previous workout. You're not going to get the quality, are you?
Speaker 1: That's right. So yeah, got to be great news to
Speaker 1: our listeners because I think I think that's a massive
Speaker 1: mental hurd of aer I know I should do train,
Speaker 1: but I just don't have the time to do six
Speaker 1: sessions a week. So hang on, you don't have to
Speaker 1: go for an hour and you don't have to do
Speaker 1: six sessions a week.
Speaker 2: And the other thing too, semi is who said you've
Speaker 2: got to go to the gym.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the other thing I think there's a bit
Speaker 1: of a.
Speaker 2: Misconception there to I've got to go to the gym. No,
Speaker 2: you don't. I mean, you know, I mean look at
Speaker 2: your program.
Speaker 1: And dumbbells bands composed dumb bells. Yeah, you do it
Speaker 1: at the beach.
Speaker 2: You can do it in the garage lander, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: So yeah, so it's doesn't doesn't necessarily have to be
Speaker 2: you know, or got to go to a fully equipped gym.
Speaker 2: Because there's the other thing too, Some people find that intimidating.
Speaker 2: So even so when we strength train two saying you
Speaker 2: like it, it boosts the performance of our mitochondria, So
Speaker 2: we know what. So we're not getting too sciencey, but
Speaker 2: I think it's just sort of good to know like, so,
Speaker 2: as we know, the mio chondria is the powerhouse of
Speaker 2: we sell in our body. Our bodies have a band
Speaker 2: round about seventy trillion cells in them, right, It's a
Speaker 2: lot of cells. So by strength training, we can actually
Speaker 2: boost the performance of those cells, which equates to more energy.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Okay. The other thing is too, if we strength train,
Speaker 2: where you can actually increase the amount of mitochondriary we
Speaker 2: have too, which would mean more energy. Here some people saying,
Speaker 2: and you have more of them and more of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So the mitochondria, like I said, is the powerhouse, that's
Speaker 2: the energy center.
Speaker 1: So isn't that interesting that because when I train with you,
Speaker 1: we push hard, we do I can barely, you know,
Speaker 1: pick my car keys up at the end of the day.
Speaker 2: He's pretty damn good.
Speaker 1: No he's not. But it doesn't I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: then feel flat as a pancake for the rest of
Speaker 1: the day. By the time I actually have shaken it
Speaker 1: off and I do get back to my car, I
Speaker 1: definitely have more energy. Definitely. So before we go into
Speaker 1: specific exercise, because I really do want to pick your
Speaker 1: brain and we can maybe use what's what is your
Speaker 1: definition of strength training to listeners.
Speaker 2: My definition of strength training is using some form of resistance,
Speaker 2: whether that be a body weight or a bar bell
Speaker 2: or a dumb bell or a band or whatever, using
Speaker 2: some form of resistance to create a stimulus in the body,
Speaker 2: so adaptation stimulus in the body. So when we overload,
Speaker 2: when we overload the muscles in the body, they respond
Speaker 2: by getting stronger. Right, Yeah, the body is a very
Speaker 2: intelligent gine, isn't it. So you know when we put
Speaker 2: when we stress it and we load it external load,
Speaker 2: it adapts by becoming stronger and then the muscles.
Speaker 1: Will grow muscles. Basically.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my definition.
Speaker 1: Which is a great definition because I think the amount
Speaker 1: of people I see in the gym not wasting their time,
Speaker 1: but they're not getting much out of it. They're doing
Speaker 1: the same weight, same exercises that you know use. Like
Speaker 1: you say, the body is smart. They're not shocking the body.
Speaker 1: They're not overloading the body in any way. You know,
Speaker 1: they're lifting the same seven kilo dumbbells that they lifted
Speaker 1: three years ago, doing the same exercise for three sets
Speaker 1: of ten. Now it's better than doing nothing, but it's
Speaker 1: not really overloading the body, not really, And look, I
Speaker 1: mean you're very good at encouraging people in very small
Speaker 1: increments to change the intensity of the exercise to a
Speaker 1: few more reps, do a bit more weight. You know,
Speaker 1: there's a number of different ways that we can create overload.
Speaker 1: It's not just weight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and that could be it exactly. So it's
Speaker 2: not doesn't always equate to more weight. It could be
Speaker 2: less rest in between sets, it could be No, I
Speaker 2: want you to slow the reps down and attention absolutely
Speaker 2: make it harder. That way, you can make a lighter
Speaker 2: weight feel harder by slowing it down.
Speaker 1: If you could only choose, let's say five strength exercises
Speaker 1: resistance exercises for a beginner that they could do. What
Speaker 1: would your five be? Okay, and maybe why because I
Speaker 1: think peop would like to hear the what but they'd
Speaker 1: love to get a bit more meat on the bones.
Speaker 2: So for five for me would be a hip hinge.
Speaker 2: So the listeners, nos hip hinge is like the dead
Speaker 2: lift pattern, a squat the squat pattern. Yeah, okay, we
Speaker 2: know what the squad is lift squat, right, we would
Speaker 2: go a vertical and horizontal pull. So so a vertical
Speaker 2: would be something like a chin up or a lat
Speaker 2: pull down. Horizontal would be some form of a row,
Speaker 2: so bend over row or one dumbbell row, even a
Speaker 2: t r X roight yea.
Speaker 1: Beautiful all right?
Speaker 2: Where am I is that for? That's for and one
Speaker 2: more would be the press, so same there, horizontal or vertical.
Speaker 2: But then obviously so we'll probably go six because we
Speaker 2: need some core in there. Yeah, yeah, And that would
Speaker 2: be for me would be some form of anti extension,
Speaker 2: which would be just a basic plank, so we're resisting
Speaker 2: extension through the hip. Anti rotation, which would be something
Speaker 2: like a power of press. I'm not sure whether.
Speaker 1: There's a little paloff. Press is where you've got a
Speaker 1: band or a cable and you're pushing it. It wants
Speaker 1: to pull you one way or the other because you're
Speaker 1: pushing it in front of your body, but it's pulling
Speaker 1: you back towards the machine or back towards the bar
Speaker 1: that the band is strapped too. So rather than you rotating,
Speaker 1: your core strength is to stop rotating stabilized, and so
Speaker 1: the more tension that's in the band, the further away
Speaker 1: you are, the harder it is to press it out
Speaker 1: in front of your body. It's just some of these
Speaker 1: simple exercises. The amount of works and when you say, col,
Speaker 1: this is one of the things you taught me really
Speaker 1: early on. It's not just your tummy, mustards, your glutes,
Speaker 1: it's the deep tummy.
Speaker 2: Everything between your shoulders and your knees is because what
Speaker 2: I consider the core.
Speaker 1: I love that it's not doing a lot of people
Speaker 1: do the upper abs, which is while their glutes are
Speaker 1: switched off whenever they're doing core exercises, so they're strong
Speaker 1: up the top, but they're weak down the bottom. It
Speaker 1: really changes things. You know, can do a in inverted
Speaker 1: commas plank for three minutes, but then when you get
Speaker 1: them to switch everything on proper, I could last thirty seconds.
Speaker 2: And it makes plain.
Speaker 1: Really locks in your gastuff and I could talk shop
Speaker 1: all day. But it's really interesting because and the reason
Speaker 1: I ask you is the TikTok world, the Instagram world
Speaker 1: is all about wow factor, you know, to stop you scrolling.
Speaker 1: And I get it. I get it. I gots of
Speaker 1: fads and funky exercises and look at this guy doing
Speaker 1: a backflip on a bowsu with a bar on his back,
Speaker 1: and you'll probably kill yourself. You know, I'm being a
Speaker 1: bit facetious, but you know it's it's stupid, you know,
Speaker 1: but it gets your attention, it does. But what it
Speaker 1: has sort of done to and I've witness this with clients.
Speaker 1: They come in and sometimes they expected all of these
Speaker 1: circus acts and you have to educate them that they
Speaker 1: might look good, but it's very little benefit to that.
Speaker 1: Trust me. The stuff we're going to do is going
Speaker 1: to give you the best bang for your buck. And
Speaker 1: so I just thought, but it's interesting if I had
Speaker 1: to train myself with six exercise so forget being the beginner,
Speaker 1: I'll do the same thing absolutely. How long does it
Speaker 1: take to see ras eults from strength training if you
Speaker 1: are doing it two or three times.
Speaker 2: Away, Well, what will happen first is will you actually
Speaker 2: notice strength gains fairly quickly within the first month. You'll
Speaker 2: notice things that actually feels a bit easier than it did.
Speaker 1: Four weeks ago.
Speaker 2: Then you'll, I think, and then it's the sort of
Speaker 2: the second four week bracket. You'll actually start to see
Speaker 2: a bit of a bit of movement, providing you know,
Speaker 2: nutritions on point, you're getting enough recovery. You might be
Speaker 2: doing some extra cardio away from the gym as well.
Speaker 2: Or in the gym, whatever. So providing all those things
Speaker 2: sort of in place as well, Yeah, within within sort
Speaker 2: of eight weeks, you're sort of starting to see.
Speaker 1: Results, noticeably results.
Speaker 2: That's I think that at that point in time, you
Speaker 2: really got to be committed because a lot of people say,
Speaker 2: I'm not not motivated. But as you and I both know,
Speaker 2: motivation comes and goes. So if you can stay committed
Speaker 2: to see that consistent and sort of see out that
Speaker 2: sort of first sort of couple of months, you know,
Speaker 2: and as long as all those other things are on
Speaker 2: point as well, you'll start seeing a shift big time.
Speaker 1: Man. I just wanted to thank you for coming in
Speaker 1: because I think I think a lot of people get
Speaker 1: intimidated about weight training. A lot of people overthink it
Speaker 1: from a complexity perspective, a lot of people underestimate the
Speaker 1: importance of it. And I think you've addressed all three
Speaker 1: of those things in a really powerful way that will
Speaker 1: resonate with people. So if people want to follow you
Speaker 1: on social media your.
Speaker 2: Pizza revolution, or just even might handle Gary Mathison, just
Speaker 2: out Gary Mathison on Insta.
Speaker 1: And then what was the female one that you said was.
Speaker 2: Great for female Girl's gone strong?
Speaker 1: That girl's gone.
Speaker 2: Strong, Molly Galbraith, she's she's very good.
Speaker 1: She's a gem. Yeah, really good mate, Thanks for coming
Speaker 1: on the wood life. Here's to our listeners getting stronger.
Speaker 2: Get lifting.
Speaker 1: So that's Gary Buff as he's affectionately known. Have literally
Speaker 1: worked with him or worked out with him for twenty
Speaker 1: three years now, and he has taught me an enormous
Speaker 1: amount and very very grateful, grateful for knowing him. It
Speaker 1: was wonderful getting me to the shootout to share some
Speaker 1: of those pearls of wisdom with you all. Next up,
Speaker 1: as promised, we're going to talk about your social battery
Speaker 1: and how you recharge it. I know for me this
Speaker 1: time of year, the calendar it can be a bit
Speaker 1: daunting even you look at it. You look at the
Speaker 1: December calendary. Oh how am I going to fit all
Speaker 1: this in? It's not like work goes anywhere, it's not
Speaker 1: like the kids give you a hiatus. It's trying to
Speaker 1: juggle it all. So up next, we're going to talk
Speaker 1: about how you best do juggle at all with recharging
Speaker 1: that social battery. All right, So how do we protect
Speaker 1: our social battery at this festive time of year? So
Speaker 1: I was thinking about this from two very different directions.
Speaker 1: I was driving to the studio today because I'm a
Speaker 1: much more extroverted person than Snazes, I find within reason.
Speaker 1: I mean, I have my limits, but I get energy
Speaker 1: from social interaction with a lot of people. I almost
Speaker 1: find like it gives me a bit of a buzz,
Speaker 1: whereas it really freak Snares out a little bit. She's
Speaker 1: fine with a closer circle of friends, but she's not
Speaker 1: anywhere near as extravert as I am when it comes
Speaker 1: to meeting other people. And so that was the first
Speaker 1: sort of point that I wanted to make. You've got
Speaker 1: to know what type of person you are, and you've
Speaker 1: got to know what your specific limits are. This is
Speaker 1: not something that you and your partner should probably have
Speaker 1: the same schedule for, or you and your group of
Speaker 1: friends should necessarily have the same schedule for, because you
Speaker 1: need to do what's right for you and you need
Speaker 1: to set your own personal limits. So you've got to
Speaker 1: look at what the calendar looks like, and not everything
Speaker 1: could or should be one hundred percent. There'll be certain
Speaker 1: things on the social calendar that, yes, it is still
Speaker 1: the right thing to do, still the right thing to
Speaker 1: attend you've got to be polite, you've got to do
Speaker 1: the right thing. But you could probably achieve the same
Speaker 1: outcome by being there for two hours, not consuming alcohol
Speaker 1: and driving home as you could if you totally let
Speaker 1: your hair down and went bananas for eight hours. And
Speaker 1: what felt like a good idea at the time then
Speaker 1: SAPs a lot of your time and energy and focus
Speaker 1: the next day or the next following day. So you've
Speaker 1: really got to pick those special occasions. I've said it
Speaker 1: a million times on the podcast before. Guess what goes
Speaker 1: Friday is not a special occasion. It's a day of
Speaker 1: the week. And I think when it comes to the
Speaker 1: festive season, when there's two or three or four or
Speaker 1: five things on the calendar every week, you really have
Speaker 1: to be even more selective and disciplined. You have to
Speaker 1: plan ahead. Don't just get to each event and sort
Speaker 1: of say, I'll see what happens. Have a bit of
Speaker 1: a plan. Yep, I'm gonna limit myself to two hours.
Speaker 1: I've got a big wak ahead. There's a few other
Speaker 1: things that will be probably more social than this that
Speaker 1: I absolutely need to be my social butterfly self at
Speaker 1: I'm going to make sure this is a two hour
Speaker 1: limit and a drive home situation. So that's setting the limits.
Speaker 1: So we've got know your personality type and then set
Speaker 1: your own personal limits. The third thing is, if it's
Speaker 1: all one way traffic at this time of the year,
Speaker 1: no matter how well you set your limits, you're probably
Speaker 1: going to run that battery dead. You've got to do
Speaker 1: things that plug that charger in. That might be a massage,
Speaker 1: a swim, some extra sleep, staying more hydrated, meditating, just
Speaker 1: giving yourself thirty minutes to read a book or get
Speaker 1: some fresh air or go for a walk. You need
Speaker 1: to do something that puts energy back in. It can't
Speaker 1: be all busy, busy, busy. Take take take because no
Speaker 1: matter how superhuman you are, or how superhuman you think
Speaker 1: you are, you will hit a wall eventually. So your nutrition,
Speaker 1: your sleep, your rest, your care routine, all of that
Speaker 1: needs to contribute. Not to recharging the battery back to
Speaker 1: full every time you do it, but little ten percent
Speaker 1: increments to bump that battery up in between social occasions
Speaker 1: can be an absolute game changer. And then the last
Speaker 1: one that I'll add it's sort of closely related to that,
Speaker 1: but I think in today's world we often underestimate its
Speaker 1: negative power or its battery draining abilities. It's just phones
Speaker 1: and social media. I think we don't realize how much
Speaker 1: that can sapas we're comparing ourselves to others where we're
Speaker 1: scrolling when we should be sleeping, we're losing productivity, we're
Speaker 1: staring at a screen constantly. If you can limit your
Speaker 1: social media time when everything else is so elevated, you'll
Speaker 1: find you just cope better because I think the social
Speaker 1: media comes in and when we're relatively in control of
Speaker 1: how busy our calendars are or how hectic our lives are,
Speaker 1: just from a busyness perspective, we sort of get away
Speaker 1: with it. But as that water is rising, if you're
Speaker 1: still jamming as much screen time as much social media
Speaker 1: in there as perhaps you do when you're not so busy,
Speaker 1: you'll overflow yourself and something's got to give. So just
Speaker 1: it's just a matter of awareness and discipline. Set some
Speaker 1: limits on your screen time, set some limits on your
Speaker 1: social media, and be self aware. Be self aware to
Speaker 1: when that battery is getting over Be self aware to
Speaker 1: how long you've been scrolling or spending on your social
Speaker 1: media platforms, and give yourself a bit of battery charging
Speaker 1: stuff rather than social media stuff. Whenever the opportunity presents.
Speaker 1: There you go. That's it for today's episode. I will
Speaker 1: see you next week for our final SO of the year,
Speaker 1: which I'm really excited about. If you've got any questions,
Speaker 1: of course, please there's a link in the show notes
Speaker 1: in the Woodlife inbox. And until then, I'll see you
Speaker 1: next week.