WEBVTT - Ask Uncut – Our bodies are not trends 0:00:00.880 --> 0:00:05.280 Life Uncut podcast acknowledges the traditional custodians of country throughout 0:00:05.320 --> 0:00:09.080 Australia and their connections to land, sea and community. We 0:00:09.160 --> 0:00:11.959 pay our respect to their elders past and present and 0:00:12.039 --> 0:00:15.360 extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait islander 0:00:15.360 --> 0:00:18.759 peoples today. This episode is recorded on Gaddigal Land of 0:00:18.760 --> 0:00:40.720 the Aurora Nation. Hi guys and all, welcome back to 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:42.519 another episode of Life Uncut. 0:00:42.600 --> 0:00:45.560 I'm Brittany and I'm producer Keisha feeling in for Laura 0:00:45.680 --> 0:00:48.120 today because she is She's doing something a little bit 0:00:48.159 --> 0:00:51.320 more important than answering your deep dark and burning questions, 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:52.800 even though we got a review saying that we should 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:54.440 stop saying deep dark and burning questions. 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:57.640 That's what the segment is called, deep dark and Bernie questions, 0:00:57.680 --> 0:00:58.600 Deep dark and dirty. 0:00:58.640 --> 0:01:03.120 For today was Lara's getting hitch WHOA I mean, not 0:01:03.160 --> 0:01:08.240 today because obviously that would be there, but like very very. 0:01:08.160 --> 0:01:11.240 Very soon days we I mean, I say, we like 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:15.399 we've done the right thing. We've given Laura some time. No, 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:18.200 obviously Laura's getting married literally in I'm not going to 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:20.960 tell you how many days between one and four, it's. 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:24.040 Less than three. And you still don't have a dress. 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:24.760 I know. 0:01:24.959 --> 0:01:26.240 Oh my god, you just reminded me. 0:01:26.520 --> 0:01:28.360 Hopefully that's one of the packages I need to pick up. 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:30.000 I still don't have a dress. I ordered it, it 0:01:30.040 --> 0:01:32.200 did not come, so I ordered another one. It did 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:32.680 not come. 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:34.919 I have a bit of a pattern here, I think 0:01:35.560 --> 0:01:37.600 I am. You need to be a lot more organized. 0:01:37.959 --> 0:01:42.720 Spoiler, I am the most disorganized person you haven't ever met. 0:01:42.760 --> 0:01:44.760 And mind you, I get everything done like I get 0:01:44.760 --> 0:01:48.040 it done. Everyone gets what they need on time, but 0:01:48.160 --> 0:01:50.400 I wait until the last minute. 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:54.600 And I know this movie with you. Every single day, 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:55.760 I'm more telling the audience. 0:01:57.320 --> 0:01:59.160 I know, you know because I leave everything so late 0:01:59.200 --> 0:02:00.000 and everything is chaots. 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:00.840 But that's how I work. 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:03.160 I work better under pressure. I've like this morning, I 0:02:03.160 --> 0:02:03.880 can't tell you how much. 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:04.640 It's so early. 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:06.680 I can't tell you how much I've done because everything 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:07.960 is due today. I had to get up at like 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:09.679 five am because I'm like, oh my god, I left 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:10.880 everything till last day. 0:02:11.320 --> 0:02:13.040 Laura's getting married like tomorrow. 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:14.839 So Laura is getting married in the next couple of days, 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:17.280 which is amazing, which means she has taken a couple 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:18.919 of days off and she's always going to take next 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:20.840 week off because you know, Low and Behold they're going 0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:23.399 to have a mini They're not going anywhere for their honeymoon, 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:24.880 but they're taking a week off to be together. 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:27.200 But I will let you know that the episode that 0:02:27.240 --> 0:02:29.800 you and Laura recorded yesterday, can I just tell everyone 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:33.720 who it's with, because it's like, yeah, fucking huge. It 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:38.799 was great. She's the biggest relationship speaker in the world. 0:02:38.919 --> 0:02:41.120 She's someone that we have been I don't want to 0:02:41.200 --> 0:02:42.000 use the term. 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:48.640 Hassling, enthusiastically encouraging her to come on the podcast. 0:02:48.280 --> 0:02:50.720 For like eighteen months, two years, I reckon, or maybe 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:51.440 even two and a half. 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:52.359 The POD's nearly. 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:55.560 Four years old. I think it's Esther Parell huge. If 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:58.239 we knew how to use this machine, bet I would 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:00.079 put some clapping in or some cheering after that with 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:03.400 like Estere Perell whoo, But we don't. But Esther Perel is. 0:03:03.400 --> 0:03:05.680 If you guys don't know who Esther Perell is, go 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:07.560 and have a look. You can literally find her anywhere 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:11.320 on podcasts, books, Ted talks. She's incredible. 0:03:11.360 --> 0:03:13.320 The main book that she've became famous for was called 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:15.320 Mating in Captivity. It came out in like two thousand 0:03:15.320 --> 0:03:17.520 and six, and she has these really nuanced perspectives on 0:03:17.560 --> 0:03:22.240 relationships and affairs and what constitutes monogamy, and she's just 0:03:22.520 --> 0:03:24.560 fucking amazing. She talks a. 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:27.280 Lot about infidelity, like that's one of her subspecialties. I 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:29.919 guess she studied infidelity and she's so fascinated by it, 0:03:29.919 --> 0:03:32.840 and I'm also so fascinated by that, and I just thought, 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:34.160 you know what, I've been chasing it for two and 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:37.400 a half years because she's so great that I just 0:03:37.440 --> 0:03:39.960 wanted a free therapy session. And I just disguised that 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:43.560 with questions for the podcast. But I was like, I 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:45.800 was like, therapy me, and then we'll just add some 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:47.840 other questions in for you guys. But it's a brilliant 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:50.440 episode and that will come to you next week. 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:53.160 Yes, next Tuesday, So keep your hot little ears ready 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:55.640 for that. But Britt, how do you feel about her? 0:03:55.680 --> 0:03:58.320 The fact that we're going to be at Laura's wedding 0:03:58.360 --> 0:04:00.320 in a couple of days, which is so exciting, but 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:02.400 you're gonna have to share a. 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:05.680 Room, you guys. I can't believe we actually didn't talk 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:08.920 about this. This was so funny, So I. 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:11.120 Think I actually asked for us to not because I 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:13.000 was so mortified by this happening. 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:16.000 So a couple of weeks ago, at Laura's Hens party, 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:17.719 Kisha and I, you know, you got our hens. We 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:19.920 went away to a house all that everyone shares rooms, 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:22.040 Kisha and I because we're so close. There was two 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:23.719 people that had to share a bed, not just a room, 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:25.640 but a bed. So we're fine. So we shared this 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:29.680 queen bed, small queen bed. It's quite quite compact. I 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:31.679 think it was like a what's it called queen double 0:04:31.720 --> 0:04:33.920 queen or whatever that maybe a double No, it was 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:34.320 a queen. 0:04:34.360 --> 0:04:36.560 But weirdly enough, it was actually the first time that 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:38.320 we'd ever slept next to each other. And we see 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:39.880 each other literally every day. 0:04:39.960 --> 0:04:41.440 Yeah, that's because we live down the road. You're not 0:04:41.480 --> 0:04:43.080 just gonna be like, hey, come slipp in my bed 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:48.279 for funsies. Like so we're sharing kitchen and I sharing 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:50.120 a bed, and I am a like not to do 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:52.120 my own horn. But I'm like an angel sleeper. I 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:54.880 don't move. I just laying one spot. And I'm even 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:57.280 more conscious of it when I'm sharing a bed with someone. 0:04:57.279 --> 0:04:58.720 But I just like lay on the edge and I'm 0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:02.800 asleep in the middle. Of the night. Keisha rolls over 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:07.800 frantically sits up in bed, like I reckon. Her face 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:11.960 is three centimeters from my face, three max. Like I 0:05:11.960 --> 0:05:14.640 could feel her breath on my face. And she's sitting 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:17.040 up and I'm like, what's happening. And she starts to 0:05:17.120 --> 0:05:20.440 stroke my face and my head and with one hand 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:24.720 and then she's rubbing my back and she's going sh sh, Britney, sorry, 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:27.520 that's all right there there, and I'm like, what the fuck. 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:31.760 I was like, Gisha, Tisha, and she goes, just okay, 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:34.120 I'm here, I'm here, nothing to be afraid of. And 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:37.080 I was like, what is happening. I'm like Keisha, and 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:38.320 I was trying to I was like, oh my god, 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:41.239 I think she's asleep. She's like caressing my body, telling 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:43.320 me everything was not caressing your body. 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:44.280 I was patting you. 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:46.000 On the head. I was the one that felt you 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:52.480 was unconscious. And then you rolled back asleep and I 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:54.000 had to like roll you over right. I was like, 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:54.479 oh my god. 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:56.279 She woke up at that point, because that's when I 0:05:56.320 --> 0:05:59.640 realized what was happening, because in my reality, I was 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:02.919 having nightmare that you were having a nightmare and you 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:05.760 were freaking out, and so I was like, it's pretty 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:08.040 it's okay, Like it's because you know, you don't have 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:12.039 many people sleep next to your bridge, you're not used 0:06:12.040 --> 0:06:12.480 to it. 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:14.960 That's even worse. You think that i'ms so lonely that 0:06:14.960 --> 0:06:17.600 I can't even get myself through a nightmare. 0:06:17.720 --> 0:06:18.520 That is so funny. 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:20.200 But now Casu and I have to sleep together again, 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:22.360 so I'm wondering what's going to happen. And that also 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:25.240 poses another problem. There's not that many single people going 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:26.360 to the wedding. You and I had two of the 0:06:26.400 --> 0:06:29.359 single people, and apparently there are some single guys there. 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:31.080 How do we work around that. 0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:33.080 When we're like when we're both in the room, I mean, 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:34.800 I booked the room, so I guess I can frustation. 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:37.279 You've got to go to the house. I'm sleeping on 0:06:37.320 --> 0:06:37.719 the lounge. 0:06:37.720 --> 0:06:40.520 Apparently we will cross that bridge when we come to it. 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:42.680 I'm assuming, but yeah, look, I do want to formally 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:45.520 apologize for being a bit of a creeper in my sleep. 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:48.040 I wouldn't sleep the rest of the night like salmon 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:49.560 with my eyes open. I was like, well, if she 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:58.080 comes back, well in the more exciting happiness, My good 0:06:58.200 --> 0:07:02.120 friend friend of the podcast GBA Wilson just had a 0:07:02.200 --> 0:07:04.680 little baby girl, so she just, oh, she had it 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:08.599 a week ago, but she just announced it yesterday. Her 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:12.160 name is Royce and she's absolutely divine, and it's just 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:14.000 one of those things where you know, you just want 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:16.000 to say, I shed a tear. I cried because I 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:18.120 know it's been a long time calming for her, and 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:22.400 it's so nice to see people achieve their dreams. And 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:24.720 this doesn't seem like a big dream when you're someone 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:27.000 like that achieves as much as someone like reb Wilson is, 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:29.840 but personally, you know something she's wanted for a long time. 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:31.920 So when you look at a friend do something incredible 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:32.480 like that. 0:07:33.200 --> 0:07:33.720 You're stoked. 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:34.880 Gives you all the feels, you know. 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:37.480 I think I'll say, like Rebels had so many, I 0:07:37.520 --> 0:07:40.000 don't want to say shocks. There's been some things in 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:42.600 the past two years in her life that have been like, oh, well, 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:43.520 didn't see that coming. 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:46.360 Oh yeah, she dropped the bomb totally. 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:48.640 Like I saw the photos of her with the Bellas 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:51.520 from Pitch Perfect a couple of weeks ago and they 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:52.840 were having this. I just thought it was like a 0:07:52.840 --> 0:07:57.280 really nice union catchup and now it goes she's in 0:07:57.320 --> 0:07:59.760 like a pink dress, so it was a baby shower, 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:00.840 which she's so lovely. 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:04.200 But because she wasn't pregnant, Yeah, no, I guess when 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:06.119 you look at it like that, ReBs has been pretty 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:08.240 good at, you don't want to say, keeping secrets, but 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:11.680 dropping surprises and making little announcements. But she did have 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:15.160 a little baby Royce via surrogate, which is you know 0:08:15.200 --> 0:08:16.520 why it was a surprise to a lot of people 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:18.880 because obviously she wasn't visibly pregnant. 0:08:19.080 --> 0:08:23.679 I mean, my initial thought was prettey, little sneaky sucker. 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:26.600 I had a suspicion that you knew this is going on. 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:27.480 You didn't say anything. 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:28.880 Yeah, I knew from the beginning. 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:29.760 You know. 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:32.079 That's I think that's something that you definitely tell your friends, 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:35.360 and you tell trusted friends. But I take that very seriously, 0:08:35.400 --> 0:08:36.760 like I was. I mean, you guys, I didn't even 0:08:36.800 --> 0:08:38.760 tell you guys that that was coming. Actually, I don't 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:40.679 know if I've kept secret that long in my life, 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:44.160 but that is something that I definitely value people's privacy. 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:47.840 And if Rebel didn't trust me, she wouldn't have told me. 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:50.439 And I take that really seriously. So yeah, it's been 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:53.000 a long, exciting little journey and I can't wait to 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:53.360 meet her. 0:08:53.559 --> 0:08:55.280 Yeah. Well, I mean she's a beautiful little baby. But 0:08:55.360 --> 0:08:56.719 something that I would love to kind of do a 0:08:56.760 --> 0:08:58.360 little bit more of a deep dive Olden because this 0:08:58.600 --> 0:09:00.000 just made me realize that I didn't know very much 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:03.199 about it is actually surrogacyse I know, there's really different 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:04.679 between Australia and America. 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:07.280 Yeah, I think sargus is different all over the world, 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:10.120 but we have pretty strict rules here and I don't like, 0:09:10.120 --> 0:09:11.600 I don't want to jump in them too much because 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:13.920 I don't know them, but I know it's illegal here 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:18.000 to be paid for sargacy, whereas it's definitely not in America. 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:21.040 Yeah, right, interesting, Maybe maybe ReBs could come on and 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:29.680 do part two, Rebel Wilson like looking, there is something 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:30.959 in the news at the moment that I did want 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:32.720 to talk to you about. And I don't know whether 0:09:32.760 --> 0:09:35.080 you saw a post by Jimila Jamil in the last 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:38.640 couple of days, but it was in response to something 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:42.080 that the New York Post posted. So the New York 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:43.760 Post is like a publication in America. 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:45.880 I know they posted me. Actually, a couple of weeks ago. 0:09:45.920 --> 0:09:46.680 But that's the reliant. 0:09:46.679 --> 0:09:47.760 Well, they're in a bad books. 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:48.280 I know. 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:51.200 I know because they posted an image that had Hobe 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:57.200 Kardashian and Kim Kardashian with the headline heroin Chic is back. 0:09:57.480 --> 0:10:01.360 Oh it doesn't your soul just vacate the building. 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:03.559 Your whatj Miligimal had to say about it. 0:10:03.760 --> 0:10:06.760 No, we tried this before in the nineties, and millions 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:08.800 of people developed eating disorders. I had one for like 0:10:08.840 --> 0:10:11.679 twenty years. We're not doing this again. We're not going back. 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:15.800 Our bodies are not trends. Our body shapes are not trends. 0:10:16.040 --> 0:10:16.959 Fuck off. 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:19.240 Well, I think like every single one of us, yes, 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:22.960 can recognize that this is just such a problematic trend 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:26.280 to happen in society. Something that I did actually think 0:10:26.280 --> 0:10:28.120 about was, well, is this like a new thing? Is 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:31.199 this something that has only existed in the past decades 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:33.240 or has this been going on for a really long 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:33.880 time now? 0:10:33.880 --> 0:10:35.319 I think it's been going on for a very very 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:37.440 long time. I even think back, you know, I'm thirty five. 0:10:37.640 --> 0:10:40.360 I think back to my teenage years, which is you know, 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:42.080 I mean, that doesn't seem like a long long time ago. 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:45.880 But we're still talking twenty years ago, and heroin chic 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:49.000 was in then, because I remember wanting to be really 0:10:49.040 --> 0:10:52.480 skinny because everything I saw and everyone I saw was 0:10:52.559 --> 0:10:54.880 really skinny. That was like the Kate Moss, the young 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:58.360 Kate Moss. And it's funny because we used to say 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:02.280 the term heroin chic and not think about what it meant. Really, 0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:04.280 it's only the last few years I've been like, that 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:08.240 is so fucked. We are saying we want to look 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:11.880 like a drug addict because that is what heroin chic is. 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:14.280 Well, Jamila Jamil went on to make a video about it. 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:15.880 She was like, it's not enough for them to look 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:19.160 starving girl skinny. They actually want us to look like 0:11:19.200 --> 0:11:22.520 we are so deprived of sleep and nutrition that we 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:24.840 have dark circles under our eyes that we are struggling 0:11:24.840 --> 0:11:25.960 to hold our posture up. 0:11:26.200 --> 0:11:28.360 Well, it's always like, look at these really prominent cheekbones 0:11:28.360 --> 0:11:30.600 on this model. The probably shouldn't be that prominent, but 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:33.439 they're so gauned because this was the look that they 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:35.719 had to achieve. And so many Victoria's Secret models, so 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:38.240 many different models around the world have come out saying 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:42.040 how unhealthy that time was in their life because they 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:46.880 were already sized six's fours twos in America, and every 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:49.439 casting they went to kept saying, lose more weight, You're 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:52.320 too fat, you're too big. Their period stopped. They've got 0:11:52.360 --> 0:11:55.120 a mental illness from it because everyone was always telling 0:11:55.160 --> 0:11:57.320 them they're not enough, They're not enough, lose more weight, 0:11:57.640 --> 0:12:01.720 they're starving. It's just so so soul destroying to think 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:04.880 that this is coming back into trend, especially after however 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:08.160 many what reckon ten years of the Kardashians bringing curves 0:12:08.240 --> 0:12:11.360 back and bringing this more voluptuous body back, in which 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:13.320 I think, I don't know if that was a great 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:16.680 thing either, because that was also an extreme trend. I 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:19.600 think there we're being yo yoing between all these extreme 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:22.680 bodies for years, and I don't know when or how 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:23.520 that's gonna end. 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:26.080 The only thing that I think was a little bit 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:28.280 of a relief about the Kardashians. And this is my 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:31.160 personal opinion. This is not backed up by science, but 0:12:31.240 --> 0:12:33.360 I think that out of all of the body trends 0:12:33.360 --> 0:12:36.920 that had existed, it was kind of the first time 0:12:38.040 --> 0:12:40.520 that you could put a monetary value on it. So 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:44.520 like generally speaking, if you had enough money in the world, 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:47.960 you could look like that, whereas other body trends before. 0:12:48.480 --> 0:12:51.040 Let's compare this to heroin chic. I'm a natural f cup. 0:12:51.280 --> 0:12:54.120 I have what they call an hourglass body. No matter 0:12:54.160 --> 0:12:56.640 what I did to my body, I would ever, ever, 0:12:56.720 --> 0:13:00.440 ever fit into a heroin chic trend. And so I 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:02.720 think the only thing that the Kardashians did that was 0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:05.800 quite remarkably different was that because all of theirs was 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:08.560 through you know, artificial thing. I mean, not that they're 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:10.760 claiming that, they're not admitting to it, but we all 0:13:10.800 --> 0:13:12.960 know that there was Brazilian but liss there were things 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:15.560 that people could do if they had enough money in 0:13:15.600 --> 0:13:17.400 the bank. And I think that the only thing that 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:20.439 that did in a positive way was that it relieved 0:13:20.440 --> 0:13:22.480 the pressure of being like, well, that's not even real, 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:25.680 like that's not even what they actually look like, which 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:28.040 I think internally took a little bit of the pressure 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:29.800 off of ourselves. But I did do a big of 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:31.959 a deep dive into I'm going to put this in 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:36.000 quotation marks ideal body trends that have existed throughout time. 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:39.719 And I thought I'd only be going back one hundred years. Hilariously, 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:42.840 I'm going back one thousand BC. 0:13:43.160 --> 0:13:45.160 So what was the body trend one thousand BC. 0:13:45.480 --> 0:13:46.760 This is ancient Egypt. 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:50.319 There's like wine and grapes, it says. 0:13:50.320 --> 0:13:53.160 In this era, the ideal woman is described as slender, 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:58.480 narrow shoulders, high waist, symmetrical face. We move into ancient Greece, plump, 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:00.040 full bodied, lights. 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:01.199 Skin, we would have done well. 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:03.440 Okay, now I've jumped ahead for obvious reasons. But you 0:14:03.440 --> 0:14:05.400 think about like Renaissance paintings, like you think about all 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:07.600 the stuff that Michelangelo painted, all. 0:14:07.559 --> 0:14:10.120 Very voluptuous, very curvy, big bosomed. 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:15.120 Let's go to the Roaring twenties, flat chest, downplayed waist, 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:19.520 short bob hairstyle, boyish figure. Fast forward to the nineteen 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:25.360 thirties to fifties. Curves, hourglass figure, large breasts, slim waists. 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:26.680 I would have fit in that time. 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:29.200 You fit in anytime of the big booby time. 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:33.560 When we get to the heroine cheek time, waferish, extremely thin, 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:36.200 translucent skin, adrogynous, I. 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:41.920 Mean, okay, hang on translucent skin as a that's not 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:45.640 something you can do unless you are so malnourish and unhealthy, 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:47.640 like you can't. You don't, you don't go down to 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:49.680 the store and you'll say Hey, I'm gonna grab a turtleneck. 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:51.520 I'll grab some foils in my hand. I'll get some 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:55.400 translucent skin like you don't. How does one accomplish translucent skin? 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:57.800 That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. 0:14:57.720 --> 0:14:59.640 One hundred percent. They wanted you to look frail and 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:03.200 basically neglected, like Kate Moss was the model of the time. 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:04.640 If that's if you want to get a bit of 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:07.440 a picture. And then they've got postmodern beauty two thousands 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:11.600 to today. Flat stomach, healthy skinny, healthy skinny, that's what 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:15.720 they've said, large breast and butt, thigh gap. The point 0:15:15.760 --> 0:15:20.160 of bringing up these body trends and the closeness in 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:22.560 and by the way, there are others in between. I've 0:15:22.560 --> 0:15:24.880 just jumped to the ones that we're mainly talking about today. 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:27.120 But my point of bringing that up is because for 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:31.200 you to live throughout your entire lifetime, it is impossible 0:15:31.840 --> 0:15:34.880 to fit into a body trend for your whole life. 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:38.280 It is literally impossible to fit into every single one 0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:40.840 of these things because they are so vastly different. And 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:43.520 what I think is so fucked up is that for 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:46.280 so so so long, like it's really only our generation 0:15:46.320 --> 0:15:48.800 that has actually called this stuff out. It hasn't been dissected, 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:51.120 it hasn't been called out before, It hasn't actually been 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:54.920 thought about. It's just been quite accepted as a societal 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:56.760 standard that you know, Okay, well now you need to 0:15:56.840 --> 0:15:58.720 change everything about yourself so that you can fit into 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:02.400 this particular thing. And I think that the only way 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:04.760 that we're going to rewrite that narrative, And as Jamila 0:16:04.840 --> 0:16:06.960 Jimil says, like we're not doing this again, We're not 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:09.200 going back there from twenty twenty two. We're not going 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:12.240 back to this bullshit. The only way that we're going 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:14.200 to not go back there is to call it out, 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:16.520 because we need to rewire our own brains. Like you 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:19.040 think about any person that you know, and I would 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:22.120 even say to this day, I think it would be 0:16:22.200 --> 0:16:25.760 almost impossible to find someone that hasn't had a bad 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:28.040 thought about their own body image when they look into 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:28.880 the mirror right now. 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:30.920 But I also think that's something that's happened for a 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:33.720 long time. I don't necessarily think that's a new generational thing. 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:38.120 I think transitioning from teenage years to a woman, for 0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:41.080 anyone at any age, these things start to happen. And 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:43.080 I think that also just comes from a comparison culture. 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:45.480 You looking at someone else's and the grass is always greener, 0:16:45.560 --> 0:16:48.400 right as women were always like, oh but what if 0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:50.200 I looks like her? What if I did this? What 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:52.160 if I was skinnier, what if I had bigger boobs? 0:16:52.200 --> 0:16:54.280 What if I like you always want to change something? 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:58.480 And I think that that society contributes a lot to 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:01.560 that journey. But I think that initial thought, I don't 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:03.720 know how women and girls get that out of their 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:05.640 head completely. I think that's going to enter their head 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:07.199 as they start to go through puberty and they have 0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:09.280 these thoughts, but that's when it's up to us to 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:12.240 nip it in the bud then at twelve thirteen, fourteen fifteen, 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:15.560 not encourage it by seeing its social media and its magazines. 0:17:15.600 --> 0:17:19.520 And this is absolutely wild to me, But the influence 0:17:19.960 --> 0:17:24.720 that the Kardashians have on the world is insanity now 0:17:24.880 --> 0:17:27.240 for women, it is crazy to think and it's a 0:17:27.240 --> 0:17:29.920 crazy statement to say that one family could possibly be 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:33.040 a huge, huge instigator in these trends, but I actually 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:35.919 think they are. When you look at the family, the Kardashians, 0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:38.760 the women, I mean, they're all stunning women and there 0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:40.919 is nothing wrong with changing your body if you want to, 0:17:40.960 --> 0:17:42.879 there's nothing wrong with it. But they have done that 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:44.720 a lot. Whether they've admitted to it or not, you've 0:17:44.760 --> 0:17:48.280 seen the change. I think that they started the term 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:51.200