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Speaker 1: pay our respect to their elders past and present and
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Speaker 1: the Aurora Nation. Hi guys and all, welcome back to
Speaker 1: another episode of Life Uncut.
Speaker 2: I'm Brittany and I'm producer Keisha feeling in for Laura
Speaker 2: today because she is She's doing something a little bit
Speaker 2: more important than answering your deep dark and burning questions,
Speaker 2: even though we got a review saying that we should
Speaker 2: stop saying deep dark and burning questions.
Speaker 1: That's what the segment is called, deep dark and Bernie questions,
Speaker 1: Deep dark and dirty.
Speaker 2: For today was Lara's getting hitch WHOA I mean, not
Speaker 2: today because obviously that would be there, but like very very.
Speaker 1: Very soon days we I mean, I say, we like
Speaker 1: we've done the right thing. We've given Laura some time. No,
Speaker 1: obviously Laura's getting married literally in I'm not going to
Speaker 1: tell you how many days between one and four, it's.
Speaker 2: Less than three. And you still don't have a dress.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, you just reminded me.
Speaker 1: Hopefully that's one of the packages I need to pick up.
Speaker 1: I still don't have a dress. I ordered it, it
Speaker 1: did not come, so I ordered another one. It did
Speaker 1: not come.
Speaker 2: I have a bit of a pattern here, I think
Speaker 2: I am. You need to be a lot more organized.
Speaker 1: Spoiler, I am the most disorganized person you haven't ever met.
Speaker 1: And mind you, I get everything done like I get
Speaker 1: it done. Everyone gets what they need on time, but
Speaker 1: I wait until the last minute.
Speaker 2: And I know this movie with you. Every single day,
Speaker 2: I'm more telling the audience.
Speaker 1: I know, you know because I leave everything so late
Speaker 1: and everything is chaots.
Speaker 2: But that's how I work.
Speaker 1: I work better under pressure. I've like this morning, I
Speaker 1: can't tell you how much.
Speaker 2: It's so early.
Speaker 1: I can't tell you how much I've done because everything
Speaker 1: is due today. I had to get up at like
Speaker 1: five am because I'm like, oh my god, I left
Speaker 1: everything till last day.
Speaker 2: Laura's getting married like tomorrow.
Speaker 1: So Laura is getting married in the next couple of days,
Speaker 1: which is amazing, which means she has taken a couple
Speaker 1: of days off and she's always going to take next
Speaker 1: week off because you know, Low and Behold they're going
Speaker 1: to have a mini They're not going anywhere for their honeymoon,
Speaker 1: but they're taking a week off to be together.
Speaker 2: But I will let you know that the episode that
Speaker 2: you and Laura recorded yesterday, can I just tell everyone
Speaker 2: who it's with, because it's like, yeah, fucking huge. It
Speaker 2: was great. She's the biggest relationship speaker in the world.
Speaker 1: She's someone that we have been I don't want to
Speaker 1: use the term.
Speaker 2: Hassling, enthusiastically encouraging her to come on the podcast.
Speaker 1: For like eighteen months, two years, I reckon, or maybe
Speaker 1: even two and a half.
Speaker 2: The POD's nearly.
Speaker 1: Four years old. I think it's Esther Parell huge. If
Speaker 1: we knew how to use this machine, bet I would
Speaker 1: put some clapping in or some cheering after that with
Speaker 1: like Estere Perell whoo, But we don't. But Esther Perel is.
Speaker 1: If you guys don't know who Esther Perell is, go
Speaker 1: and have a look. You can literally find her anywhere
Speaker 1: on podcasts, books, Ted talks. She's incredible.
Speaker 2: The main book that she've became famous for was called
Speaker 2: Mating in Captivity. It came out in like two thousand
Speaker 2: and six, and she has these really nuanced perspectives on
Speaker 2: relationships and affairs and what constitutes monogamy, and she's just
Speaker 2: fucking amazing. She talks a.
Speaker 1: Lot about infidelity, like that's one of her subspecialties. I
Speaker 1: guess she studied infidelity and she's so fascinated by it,
Speaker 1: and I'm also so fascinated by that, and I just thought,
Speaker 1: you know what, I've been chasing it for two and
Speaker 1: a half years because she's so great that I just
Speaker 1: wanted a free therapy session. And I just disguised that
Speaker 1: with questions for the podcast. But I was like, I
Speaker 1: was like, therapy me, and then we'll just add some
Speaker 1: other questions in for you guys. But it's a brilliant
Speaker 1: episode and that will come to you next week.
Speaker 2: Yes, next Tuesday, So keep your hot little ears ready
Speaker 2: for that. But Britt, how do you feel about her?
Speaker 2: The fact that we're going to be at Laura's wedding
Speaker 2: in a couple of days, which is so exciting, but
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to share a.
Speaker 1: Room, you guys. I can't believe we actually didn't talk
Speaker 1: about this. This was so funny, So I.
Speaker 2: Think I actually asked for us to not because I
Speaker 2: was so mortified by this happening.
Speaker 1: So a couple of weeks ago, at Laura's Hens party,
Speaker 1: Kisha and I, you know, you got our hens. We
Speaker 1: went away to a house all that everyone shares rooms,
Speaker 1: Kisha and I because we're so close. There was two
Speaker 1: people that had to share a bed, not just a room,
Speaker 1: but a bed. So we're fine. So we shared this
Speaker 1: queen bed, small queen bed. It's quite quite compact. I
Speaker 1: think it was like a what's it called queen double
Speaker 1: queen or whatever that maybe a double No, it was
Speaker 1: a queen.
Speaker 2: But weirdly enough, it was actually the first time that
Speaker 2: we'd ever slept next to each other. And we see
Speaker 2: each other literally every day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's because we live down the road. You're not
Speaker 1: just gonna be like, hey, come slipp in my bed
Speaker 1: for funsies. Like so we're sharing kitchen and I sharing
Speaker 1: a bed, and I am a like not to do
Speaker 1: my own horn. But I'm like an angel sleeper. I
Speaker 1: don't move. I just laying one spot. And I'm even
Speaker 1: more conscious of it when I'm sharing a bed with someone.
Speaker 1: But I just like lay on the edge and I'm
Speaker 1: asleep in the middle. Of the night. Keisha rolls over
Speaker 1: frantically sits up in bed, like I reckon. Her face
Speaker 1: is three centimeters from my face, three max. Like I
Speaker 1: could feel her breath on my face. And she's sitting
Speaker 1: up and I'm like, what's happening. And she starts to
Speaker 1: stroke my face and my head and with one hand
Speaker 1: and then she's rubbing my back and she's going sh sh, Britney, sorry,
Speaker 1: that's all right there there, and I'm like, what the fuck.
Speaker 1: I was like, Gisha, Tisha, and she goes, just okay,
Speaker 1: I'm here, I'm here, nothing to be afraid of. And
Speaker 1: I was like, what is happening. I'm like Keisha, and
Speaker 1: I was trying to I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I think she's asleep. She's like caressing my body, telling
Speaker 1: me everything was not caressing your body.
Speaker 2: I was patting you.
Speaker 1: On the head. I was the one that felt you
Speaker 1: was unconscious. And then you rolled back asleep and I
Speaker 1: had to like roll you over right. I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god.
Speaker 2: She woke up at that point, because that's when I
Speaker 2: realized what was happening, because in my reality, I was
Speaker 2: having nightmare that you were having a nightmare and you
Speaker 2: were freaking out, and so I was like, it's pretty
Speaker 2: it's okay, Like it's because you know, you don't have
Speaker 2: many people sleep next to your bridge, you're not used
Speaker 2: to it.
Speaker 1: That's even worse. You think that i'ms so lonely that
Speaker 1: I can't even get myself through a nightmare.
Speaker 2: That is so funny.
Speaker 1: But now Casu and I have to sleep together again,
Speaker 1: so I'm wondering what's going to happen. And that also
Speaker 1: poses another problem. There's not that many single people going
Speaker 1: to the wedding. You and I had two of the
Speaker 1: single people, and apparently there are some single guys there.
Speaker 2: How do we work around that.
Speaker 1: When we're like when we're both in the room, I mean,
Speaker 1: I booked the room, so I guess I can frustation.
Speaker 1: You've got to go to the house. I'm sleeping on
Speaker 1: the lounge.
Speaker 2: Apparently we will cross that bridge when we come to it.
Speaker 2: I'm assuming, but yeah, look, I do want to formally
Speaker 2: apologize for being a bit of a creeper in my sleep.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't sleep the rest of the night like salmon
Speaker 1: with my eyes open. I was like, well, if she
Speaker 1: comes back, well in the more exciting happiness, My good
Speaker 1: friend friend of the podcast GBA Wilson just had a
Speaker 1: little baby girl, so she just, oh, she had it
Speaker 1: a week ago, but she just announced it yesterday. Her
Speaker 1: name is Royce and she's absolutely divine, and it's just
Speaker 1: one of those things where you know, you just want
Speaker 1: to say, I shed a tear. I cried because I
Speaker 1: know it's been a long time calming for her, and
Speaker 1: it's so nice to see people achieve their dreams. And
Speaker 1: this doesn't seem like a big dream when you're someone
Speaker 1: like that achieves as much as someone like reb Wilson is,
Speaker 1: but personally, you know something she's wanted for a long time.
Speaker 1: So when you look at a friend do something incredible
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 2: You're stoked.
Speaker 1: Gives you all the feels, you know.
Speaker 2: I think I'll say, like Rebels had so many, I
Speaker 2: don't want to say shocks. There's been some things in
Speaker 2: the past two years in her life that have been like, oh, well,
Speaker 2: didn't see that coming.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she dropped the bomb totally.
Speaker 2: Like I saw the photos of her with the Bellas
Speaker 2: from Pitch Perfect a couple of weeks ago and they
Speaker 2: were having this. I just thought it was like a
Speaker 2: really nice union catchup and now it goes she's in
Speaker 2: like a pink dress, so it was a baby shower,
Speaker 2: which she's so lovely.
Speaker 1: But because she wasn't pregnant, Yeah, no, I guess when
Speaker 1: you look at it like that, ReBs has been pretty
Speaker 1: good at, you don't want to say, keeping secrets, but
Speaker 1: dropping surprises and making little announcements. But she did have
Speaker 1: a little baby Royce via surrogate, which is you know
Speaker 1: why it was a surprise to a lot of people
Speaker 1: because obviously she wasn't visibly pregnant.
Speaker 2: I mean, my initial thought was prettey, little sneaky sucker.
Speaker 2: I had a suspicion that you knew this is going on.
Speaker 2: You didn't say anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I knew from the beginning.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: That's I think that's something that you definitely tell your friends,
Speaker 1: and you tell trusted friends. But I take that very seriously,
Speaker 1: like I was. I mean, you guys, I didn't even
Speaker 1: tell you guys that that was coming. Actually, I don't
Speaker 1: know if I've kept secret that long in my life,
Speaker 1: but that is something that I definitely value people's privacy.
Speaker 1: And if Rebel didn't trust me, she wouldn't have told me.
Speaker 1: And I take that really seriously. So yeah, it's been
Speaker 1: a long, exciting little journey and I can't wait to
Speaker 1: meet her.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I mean she's a beautiful little baby. But
Speaker 2: something that I would love to kind of do a
Speaker 2: little bit more of a deep dive Olden because this
Speaker 2: just made me realize that I didn't know very much
Speaker 2: about it is actually surrogacyse I know, there's really different
Speaker 2: between Australia and America.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think sargus is different all over the world,
Speaker 1: but we have pretty strict rules here and I don't like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to jump in them too much because
Speaker 1: I don't know them, but I know it's illegal here
Speaker 1: to be paid for sargacy, whereas it's definitely not in America.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, interesting, Maybe maybe ReBs could come on and
Speaker 2: do part two, Rebel Wilson like looking, there is something
Speaker 2: in the news at the moment that I did want
Speaker 2: to talk to you about. And I don't know whether
Speaker 2: you saw a post by Jimila Jamil in the last
Speaker 2: couple of days, but it was in response to something
Speaker 2: that the New York Post posted. So the New York
Speaker 2: Post is like a publication in America.
Speaker 1: I know they posted me. Actually, a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 1: But that's the reliant.
Speaker 2: Well, they're in a bad books.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: I know because they posted an image that had Hobe
Speaker 2: Kardashian and Kim Kardashian with the headline heroin Chic is back.
Speaker 1: Oh it doesn't your soul just vacate the building.
Speaker 2: Your whatj Miligimal had to say about it.
Speaker 3: No, we tried this before in the nineties, and millions
Speaker 3: of people developed eating disorders. I had one for like
Speaker 3: twenty years. We're not doing this again. We're not going back.
Speaker 3: Our bodies are not trends. Our body shapes are not trends.
Speaker 1: Fuck off.
Speaker 2: Well, I think like every single one of us, yes,
Speaker 2: can recognize that this is just such a problematic trend
Speaker 2: to happen in society. Something that I did actually think
Speaker 2: about was, well, is this like a new thing? Is
Speaker 2: this something that has only existed in the past decades
Speaker 2: or has this been going on for a really long
Speaker 2: time now?
Speaker 1: I think it's been going on for a very very
Speaker 1: long time. I even think back, you know, I'm thirty five.
Speaker 1: I think back to my teenage years, which is you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, that doesn't seem like a long long time ago.
Speaker 1: But we're still talking twenty years ago, and heroin chic
Speaker 1: was in then, because I remember wanting to be really
Speaker 1: skinny because everything I saw and everyone I saw was
Speaker 1: really skinny. That was like the Kate Moss, the young
Speaker 1: Kate Moss. And it's funny because we used to say
Speaker 1: the term heroin chic and not think about what it meant. Really,
Speaker 1: it's only the last few years I've been like, that
Speaker 1: is so fucked. We are saying we want to look
Speaker 1: like a drug addict because that is what heroin chic is.
Speaker 2: Well, Jamila Jamil went on to make a video about it.
Speaker 2: She was like, it's not enough for them to look
Speaker 2: starving girl skinny. They actually want us to look like
Speaker 2: we are so deprived of sleep and nutrition that we
Speaker 2: have dark circles under our eyes that we are struggling
Speaker 2: to hold our posture up.
Speaker 1: Well, it's always like, look at these really prominent cheekbones
Speaker 1: on this model. The probably shouldn't be that prominent, but
Speaker 1: they're so gauned because this was the look that they
Speaker 1: had to achieve. And so many Victoria's Secret models, so
Speaker 1: many different models around the world have come out saying
Speaker 1: how unhealthy that time was in their life because they
Speaker 1: were already sized six's fours twos in America, and every
Speaker 1: casting they went to kept saying, lose more weight, You're
Speaker 1: too fat, you're too big. Their period stopped. They've got
Speaker 1: a mental illness from it because everyone was always telling
Speaker 1: them they're not enough, They're not enough, lose more weight,
Speaker 1: they're starving. It's just so so soul destroying to think
Speaker 1: that this is coming back into trend, especially after however
Speaker 1: many what reckon ten years of the Kardashians bringing curves
Speaker 1: back and bringing this more voluptuous body back, in which
Speaker 1: I think, I don't know if that was a great
Speaker 1: thing either, because that was also an extreme trend. I
Speaker 1: think there we're being yo yoing between all these extreme
Speaker 1: bodies for years, and I don't know when or how
Speaker 1: that's gonna end.
Speaker 2: The only thing that I think was a little bit
Speaker 2: of a relief about the Kardashians. And this is my
Speaker 2: personal opinion. This is not backed up by science, but
Speaker 2: I think that out of all of the body trends
Speaker 2: that had existed, it was kind of the first time
Speaker 2: that you could put a monetary value on it. So
Speaker 2: like generally speaking, if you had enough money in the world,
Speaker 2: you could look like that, whereas other body trends before.
Speaker 2: Let's compare this to heroin chic. I'm a natural f cup.
Speaker 2: I have what they call an hourglass body. No matter
Speaker 2: what I did to my body, I would ever, ever,
Speaker 2: ever fit into a heroin chic trend. And so I
Speaker 2: think the only thing that the Kardashians did that was
Speaker 2: quite remarkably different was that because all of theirs was
Speaker 2: through you know, artificial thing. I mean, not that they're
Speaker 2: claiming that, they're not admitting to it, but we all
Speaker 2: know that there was Brazilian but liss there were things
Speaker 2: that people could do if they had enough money in
Speaker 2: the bank. And I think that the only thing that
Speaker 2: that did in a positive way was that it relieved
Speaker 2: the pressure of being like, well, that's not even real,
Speaker 2: like that's not even what they actually look like, which
Speaker 2: I think internally took a little bit of the pressure
Speaker 2: off of ourselves. But I did do a big of
Speaker 2: a deep dive into I'm going to put this in
Speaker 2: quotation marks ideal body trends that have existed throughout time.
Speaker 2: And I thought I'd only be going back one hundred years. Hilariously,
Speaker 2: I'm going back one thousand BC.
Speaker 1: So what was the body trend one thousand BC.
Speaker 2: This is ancient Egypt.
Speaker 1: There's like wine and grapes, it says.
Speaker 2: In this era, the ideal woman is described as slender,
Speaker 2: narrow shoulders, high waist, symmetrical face. We move into ancient Greece, plump,
Speaker 2: full bodied, lights.
Speaker 1: Skin, we would have done well.
Speaker 2: Okay, now I've jumped ahead for obvious reasons. But you
Speaker 2: think about like Renaissance paintings, like you think about all
Speaker 2: the stuff that Michelangelo painted, all.
Speaker 1: Very voluptuous, very curvy, big bosomed.
Speaker 2: Let's go to the Roaring twenties, flat chest, downplayed waist,
Speaker 2: short bob hairstyle, boyish figure. Fast forward to the nineteen
Speaker 2: thirties to fifties. Curves, hourglass figure, large breasts, slim waists.
Speaker 2: I would have fit in that time.
Speaker 1: You fit in anytime of the big booby time.
Speaker 2: When we get to the heroine cheek time, waferish, extremely thin,
Speaker 2: translucent skin, adrogynous, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, okay, hang on translucent skin as a that's not
Speaker 1: something you can do unless you are so malnourish and unhealthy,
Speaker 1: like you can't. You don't, you don't go down to
Speaker 1: the store and you'll say Hey, I'm gonna grab a turtleneck.
Speaker 1: I'll grab some foils in my hand. I'll get some
Speaker 1: translucent skin like you don't. How does one accomplish translucent skin?
Speaker 1: That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. They wanted you to look frail and
Speaker 2: basically neglected, like Kate Moss was the model of the time.
Speaker 2: If that's if you want to get a bit of
Speaker 2: a picture. And then they've got postmodern beauty two thousands
Speaker 2: to today. Flat stomach, healthy skinny, healthy skinny, that's what
Speaker 2: they've said, large breast and butt, thigh gap. The point
Speaker 2: of bringing up these body trends and the closeness in
Speaker 2: and by the way, there are others in between. I've
Speaker 2: just jumped to the ones that we're mainly talking about today.
Speaker 2: But my point of bringing that up is because for
Speaker 2: you to live throughout your entire lifetime, it is impossible
Speaker 2: to fit into a body trend for your whole life.
Speaker 2: It is literally impossible to fit into every single one
Speaker 2: of these things because they are so vastly different. And
Speaker 2: what I think is so fucked up is that for
Speaker 2: so so so long, like it's really only our generation
Speaker 2: that has actually called this stuff out. It hasn't been dissected,
Speaker 2: it hasn't been called out before, It hasn't actually been
Speaker 2: thought about. It's just been quite accepted as a societal
Speaker 2: standard that you know, Okay, well now you need to
Speaker 2: change everything about yourself so that you can fit into
Speaker 2: this particular thing. And I think that the only way
Speaker 2: that we're going to rewrite that narrative, And as Jamila
Speaker 2: Jimil says, like we're not doing this again, We're not
Speaker 2: going back there from twenty twenty two. We're not going
Speaker 2: back to this bullshit. The only way that we're going
Speaker 2: to not go back there is to call it out,
Speaker 2: because we need to rewire our own brains. Like you
Speaker 2: think about any person that you know, and I would
Speaker 2: even say to this day, I think it would be
Speaker 2: almost impossible to find someone that hasn't had a bad
Speaker 2: thought about their own body image when they look into
Speaker 2: the mirror right now.
Speaker 1: But I also think that's something that's happened for a
Speaker 1: long time. I don't necessarily think that's a new generational thing.
Speaker 1: I think transitioning from teenage years to a woman, for
Speaker 1: anyone at any age, these things start to happen. And
Speaker 1: I think that also just comes from a comparison culture.
Speaker 1: You looking at someone else's and the grass is always greener,
Speaker 1: right as women were always like, oh but what if
Speaker 1: I looks like her? What if I did this? What
Speaker 1: if I was skinnier, what if I had bigger boobs?
Speaker 1: What if I like you always want to change something?
Speaker 1: And I think that that society contributes a lot to
Speaker 1: that journey. But I think that initial thought, I don't
Speaker 1: know how women and girls get that out of their
Speaker 1: head completely. I think that's going to enter their head
Speaker 1: as they start to go through puberty and they have
Speaker 1: these thoughts, but that's when it's up to us to
Speaker 1: nip it in the bud then at twelve thirteen, fourteen fifteen,
Speaker 1: not encourage it by seeing its social media and its magazines.
Speaker 1: And this is absolutely wild to me, But the influence
Speaker 1: that the Kardashians have on the world is insanity now
Speaker 1: for women, it is crazy to think and it's a
Speaker 1: crazy statement to say that one family could possibly be
Speaker 1: a huge, huge instigator in these trends, but I actually
Speaker 1: think they are. When you look at the family, the Kardashians,
Speaker 1: the women, I mean, they're all stunning women and there
Speaker 1: is nothing wrong with changing your body if you want to,
Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with it. But they have done that
Speaker 1: a lot. Whether they've admitted to it or not, you've
Speaker 1: seen the change. I think that they started the term
Speaker 1: you're not ugly, you're poor, because they've got the money
Speaker 1: to do what they want to do to change. Collectively,
Speaker 1: they have over one billion people that follow them, one billion,
Speaker 1: and most of those are women. Impression, more women impression,
Speaker 1: more young girls. Because they are everywhere. We've always looked
Speaker 1: up to them as a society because it seems like
Speaker 1: they attained so much their goals. You know, they're billionaires,
Speaker 1: they're beautiful, they drive the cars, they're at the fancy parties,
Speaker 1: they wear amazing clothes. They always look immaculate. That's because
Speaker 1: a lot of it's photoshop. There's a lot of surgery,
Speaker 1: it's a lot of control over the media. But that
Speaker 1: one family every time they change. This is why this
Speaker 1: whole conversation about the trend is back is because of
Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian. Because she went curvy, She's now lost so
Speaker 1: much weight and she's so skinny. She has kickstarted the
Speaker 1: trend again. This is why people are saying, look, it's back.
Speaker 1: Kim is the photo they're using. So I think it's
Speaker 1: it's wild that this one family can have this influence,
Speaker 1: but it definitely this change has to start with them.
Speaker 1: They have to, they say.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I agree. I don't know if
Speaker 2: it's a chicken or an egg situation. I don't know
Speaker 2: whether it's that they also feel the pressure that in
Speaker 2: order to stay as you know, the it girls in
Speaker 2: the world, they have to follow what the rest of
Speaker 2: society is expecting of them, or if they're the ones
Speaker 2: setting the trend. I don't have enough answers about like
Speaker 2: whether it's the chicken or the egg there, because they
Speaker 2: could just as easily be the ones going like oh shit,
Speaker 2: like okay, well, this is what we need to conform
Speaker 2: to now.
Speaker 1: Well, you've seen the trends, right there have been since
Speaker 1: Chloe and Kim and the girls came out with the
Speaker 1: big butts and the Brazilian butt lift kind of vibe
Speaker 1: the surgical trend like yeah, there is no denying it.
Speaker 1: It's skyrocketed. Now in the last eighteen months, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: probably eighteen months, we've seen Chloe and Kim both start
Speaker 1: to shrink back to these very very lean, small women,
Speaker 1: which you know, they're still beautiful. Like we're not saying
Speaker 1: there's anything wrong with any shape. We're just saying the
Speaker 1: shape shifting that they're doing. But I think they do
Speaker 1: have a lot of influence, like with a billion people
Speaker 1: that follow them when they get you know, like it's
Speaker 1: evident that what they do is influential. They put a
Speaker 1: lipliner up that's sold out across the world in five seconds.
Speaker 1: Everything they do people want. So I think that it's
Speaker 1: I don't like what you said before is accurate. I
Speaker 1: don't think this is going to stop. Social Media's gonna
Speaker 1: get bigger. These people we follow and look up to
Speaker 1: are going to get bigger. I think it's going to
Speaker 1: have to start back at home physically. In home and
Speaker 1: home is in like ourselves, in our brain with ourselves
Speaker 1: to say, you know what, I can recognize that they
Speaker 1: look amazing. I can also recognize that I don't want
Speaker 1: to have to go and get surgery to look like that,
Speaker 1: or I don't have to go and starve myself to
Speaker 1: have translucent skin. It's just easier so than done totally.
Speaker 2: And I think that the only way that we actually
Speaker 2: start to do that is by calling out situations like
Speaker 2: this and recognizing that even though trends like, there's nothing
Speaker 2: wrong with following trends. A lot of people are really
Speaker 2: into fashion. They get a lot of enjoyment about it.
Speaker 2: But whenever we see a trend pop up, whether that
Speaker 2: be you know, like gut health is all the thing
Speaker 2: at the moment, whether it be that this new particular
Speaker 2: fashion style, like the Naughty's fashion is really back with
Speaker 2: the low rise jeans and the little crops and all
Speaker 2: that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: This is where I will never follow the trend.
Speaker 2: I'm not going back to.
Speaker 1: The low ride.
Speaker 2: I'm not coming back to the jeans. Lap and toops
Speaker 2: are staying well and.
Speaker 1: Truly trapped in here.
Speaker 2: I think it's like really important to recognize that even
Speaker 2: though you can get like there can be health benefits
Speaker 2: out of things like that, they can be really positive
Speaker 2: things like enjoyment out of fashion and clothing and all
Speaker 2: that kind of thing. I think it would be ignorant
Speaker 2: for us to not recognize that there is a really
Speaker 2: dark side. And diet culture has this way of like
Speaker 2: morphing itself into a different fucking beast so that it's
Speaker 2: you know, the whole idea about diet culture is that
Speaker 2: They set these new trends in order to make you
Speaker 2: feel shit about yourself so that they can sell you
Speaker 2: something to make you feel better about yourself. Like that
Speaker 2: is the overarching umbrella of what diet culture represents. And
Speaker 2: I think it's important that whenever trends like this come
Speaker 2: into the spotlight, we just need to call it out
Speaker 2: for exactly what it is. And while it is okay
Speaker 2: to enjoy the evolution of fashion and trends, your body
Speaker 2: is not one of those things. Your body is not
Speaker 2: a trend.
Speaker 1: Diet culture is a very dangerous trend.
Speaker 2: Anyway, that's pretty dark. We got our little high horse there.
Speaker 2: But should we get into answering some of the questions.
Speaker 1: Some deep, dark burning questions, you know, all right?
Speaker 2: Question number one?
Speaker 1: Question number one. This was a bit of a long
Speaker 1: story that came in, but I'm gonna summarize it. This
Speaker 1: girl was in a relationship for about eighteen months with
Speaker 1: the guy, and throughout that time she had met one
Speaker 1: of his friends. Not close friends, but acquaintances. They're running
Speaker 1: similar circles kind of thing, but you know, they hang
Speaker 1: out occasionally. They broke up nothing, they completely moved on,
Speaker 1: probably like eighteen months ago. Big time, and now that
Speaker 1: friend acquaintance and her have been talking and there's a
Speaker 1: bit of She's like, I have a real crush on
Speaker 1: this guy, and I think I actually want to go
Speaker 1: and date him, and I know he feels the same
Speaker 1: because of I can get the vibe from the way
Speaker 1: they're texting. Is she allowed to do that? Is there
Speaker 1: a time frame between friends or is it perpetually stepping
Speaker 1: on their toes? I thought this was a really, really
Speaker 1: good one. Now it was obviously that was the longest story,
Speaker 1: which is why I had to summarize it, But they
Speaker 1: were the important points.
Speaker 2: I think there are a couple of different factors that
Speaker 2: come into this. Okay, hit me, who are better friends?
Speaker 2: Is this person like a really close friend of their
Speaker 2: ex or are they just like an acquaintance style, Like
Speaker 2: I think that the lequatnce. Yeah, I think the level
Speaker 2: of closeness between them is important to consider because if
Speaker 2: they're really good friends.
Speaker 1: If anything ever happened with the new friend, that'd be
Speaker 1: situations they'd run in the same circle. I know, it's
Speaker 1: it's a hard one because part of me wants to
Speaker 1: say if it was like a best friend, part of
Speaker 1: me would say, just you just don't do it, Like
Speaker 1: unless you thought that this was the pain and you're
Speaker 1: going to marry them and like live very long, happy,
Speaker 1: fulfilled life. I'd be like, go for it, because I
Speaker 1: think you know, it's hard to find your penguins, So
Speaker 1: if you find it and you really think it is great.
Speaker 1: But this is a really tricky one for me because
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, okay, if you if you guys could actually
Speaker 1: be something and you're not going to see them all
Speaker 1: the time, they're not in each other's best friend's circle
Speaker 1: and might just be well, I don't know, once a month,
Speaker 1: once every two months, who knows, but there will be
Speaker 1: times you're going to see each other. So I think
Speaker 1: these two people have to be very sure that they
Speaker 1: really like each other because it is going to start
Speaker 1: some upbreast I mean yes, But.
Speaker 2: Also like sometimes like do you just go and encourage
Speaker 2: them to say, just go and ride him, like just
Speaker 2: go and have a good time, and like you've moved
Speaker 2: on from Europe, right.
Speaker 1: Oh, so you're I'm saying like, okay, you're saying, go
Speaker 1: and hook up and maybe keep it a secret hook up.
Speaker 1: See if the vibe is there before you go and
Speaker 1: announce it to the world.
Speaker 2: I just think it's quite a full on thing to
Speaker 2: be like, Okay, well we kind of know each other
Speaker 2: through all Cayton circles and now I'm confessing my love
Speaker 2: for you and like I'm so into you. Like does
Speaker 2: it need to be that full on with an acquaintance.
Speaker 2: Probably not. If it was a really good friend, I
Speaker 2: think it probably would need to be at that level
Speaker 2: before you cross that boundary. But no matter what, I think,
Speaker 2: as soon as you do cross that line, like you're
Speaker 2: saying goodbye to the friendship.
Speaker 1: The two guys are saying goodbye to the friendship. You mean,
Speaker 1: you know what.
Speaker 2: Actually, the more and more I sit on this, I
Speaker 2: actually think it's play on. I think it's playing on
Speaker 2: if you broke up on substitute, if you need to,
Speaker 2: if you broke up that long ago. I think it
Speaker 2: depends on whether you want to keep a good relationship
Speaker 2: with your ex or not. Do you care what they think,
Speaker 2: because as soon as you do that, as soon as
Speaker 2: you bang a friend of your ex, that positive pathway
Speaker 2: of whatever you've been trying to maintain, it's gonna go,
Speaker 2: like no matter what, no matter if you're just like, yeah,
Speaker 2: well you know how we broke up amount of time ago, like,
Speaker 2: you're still going to care if your ex bangs your friend,
Speaker 2: even if it's like an acquaintance friend. You're going to
Speaker 2: be like, Oh, that just doesn't see that well with Okay.
Speaker 1: So my final verdict would be from what you have
Speaker 1: said and the level of closeness with the three of you,
Speaker 1: my verdict would be, if you really want to explore it,
Speaker 1: explore it. But I would be exploring it very privately.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be going to making this big fuss. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be rubbing out under other people's noses or making
Speaker 1: a public I'd be like, if you really want to
Speaker 1: with this person, go and see if there's something there,
Speaker 1: See if it's there between you guys privately. If there
Speaker 1: is something more and you actually want to go down
Speaker 1: the path of maybe dating or getting to know each
Speaker 1: other better, then that's a conversation you're going to have
Speaker 1: to have again. And then it's a conversation of as
Speaker 1: a whole nother question, isn't it if that happens, then
Speaker 1: do you have to tell the X in advance so
Speaker 1: that he doesn't run into you guys when you're out,
Speaker 1: or is it something like that's another question, but for now,
Speaker 1: I'm going to say, with how long it's been, with
Speaker 1: the level of closeness, I think it's okay. I think
Speaker 1: that's a very standard thing in a lot of places
Speaker 1: like here in Bonda, for example, because everyone knows every one.
Speaker 1: There's always you're always dating someone that you know if
Speaker 1: someone else has dated or everyone knows everyone. So I
Speaker 1: think I'm gonna say, go for it, but tread very carefully.
Speaker 2: Go and ride him, go and have some fun, keep fun.
Speaker 2: Maybe keep it private, like keep it.
Speaker 1: We don't live, tweet it or stream at or privately,
Speaker 1: keep it.
Speaker 2: On the down low until yeah, until maybe you think
Speaker 2: and you can keep it on the download forever, like
Speaker 2: you are not obliged to tell anybody. But if it's
Speaker 2: going to turn into more like if you're actually starting
Speaker 2: to develop feelings zero, if you think that something could eventuate,
Speaker 2: maybe just recognize that that connection between your X and
Speaker 2: you is going to be over no matter like, no
Speaker 2: matter what. Yeah, all right, next question, Hi, ladies, can
Speaker 2: you please help provide me some clarity. I've been with
Speaker 2: my partner for five years now, we even have a
Speaker 2: child together, but I can't stop myself from constantly checking
Speaker 2: up on his ex on social media. I tell myself
Speaker 2: all the time that there's no reason to do it,
Speaker 2: and yet I find myself just curious about what she's doing.
Speaker 2: My partner is incredible and loyal and I have never
Speaker 2: had a reason not to trust him and I and
Speaker 2: you only have no idea why I feel this way.
Speaker 2: I hate that I'm the type of person that does this,
Speaker 2: and it makes me feel so self conscious. I feel
Speaker 2: like a loser. Honestly, I just want to have this
Speaker 2: part of my life stop and move on. Any help
Speaker 2: or advice appreciated.
Speaker 1: This sounds like, maybe like a watered down version of
Speaker 1: something we've spoken about before, which is retrospective jealousy, which
Speaker 1: is you get this level of obsession and you can't
Speaker 1: move on from a partner's X. Now, this is someone
Speaker 1: that you've never met, someone that they were in a
Speaker 1: relationship before you even came on the scene, sometimes before
Speaker 1: you even knew them. Sometimes this can happen. You know,
Speaker 1: We've had cases where people have been in their thirties
Speaker 1: and they can't get past the fact that their partner
Speaker 1: was with someone at eighteen, Like really, it's a real condition. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we did a whole episode on.
Speaker 2: I mean, to me, this just sounds like a little
Speaker 2: bit of curiosity killing the cat though I agree, but
Speaker 2: there is a reason you can't get past the X and.
Speaker 1: I mean, at the end of the day, I think
Speaker 1: it's normal to have a level of curiosity about who
Speaker 1: your partner has been with, Like I want one hundred
Speaker 1: percent and think that's normal. I always have had a
Speaker 1: little lookxie when I've met someone new, but like, I'm
Speaker 1: really good with that doesn't bother me that much. I
Speaker 1: more just want to be like, Okay, who got your
Speaker 1: attention enough before me? Like what did that look like?
Speaker 1: What did that person look like? What do they do?
Speaker 1: But then that's it. I just have a look at
Speaker 1: them for two minutes and I'm done. That's all I need.
Speaker 2: And also I've taken a bit of a deep dive,
Speaker 2: like I could potentially ask them how their trip to
Speaker 2: Dubai in twenty twelve was. Yeah, and like I wish
Speaker 2: the happy Birthday America. It's really sorry to hear about
Speaker 2: your granddad. No, But like, I don't think this is
Speaker 2: that abnormal. I think it's a pretty normal fucking thing
Speaker 2: to do. I think the only issue with this is
Speaker 2: that you seem to not be able to stop yourself
Speaker 2: from doing it, and you have been with your partner
Speaker 2: for quite some time, so I think that this means
Speaker 2: that there's potentially a little bit of an insecurity within
Speaker 2: yourself about something that she has that you maybe don't
Speaker 2: or that you deem that she has that you maybe
Speaker 2: don't like, whether you think that she's more attractive than
Speaker 2: you are, or she's more successful than you are, or
Speaker 2: like she has more things than you do. I don't
Speaker 2: know what it is. There's obviously something that you kind
Speaker 2: of need to unpack a little bit about what the
Speaker 2: reason that you're quite obsessively looking at her for. And
Speaker 2: in terms of moving forward from this, I think you're
Speaker 2: gonna have to do the thing that we all find
Speaker 2: the hardest.
Speaker 1: To do, block and delete BLA Black.
Speaker 2: And I know that is something that is so much
Speaker 2: easier said than done, because like for me, I have
Speaker 2: to think about my exes with blocking them. We've just
Speaker 2: been through this. BRIT's been coaching me onto blocking the
Speaker 2: people that I.
Speaker 1: Don't need to see in my life and your day care.
Speaker 1: She comes back, She's like, did another one? Unfollowed another one?
Speaker 1: I'm like, yes, queen.
Speaker 2: Getting there. But I think maybe what you could do
Speaker 2: in this situation is instead of kind of looking at
Speaker 2: her and just obsessing over her life, think about what
Speaker 2: you have with your partner and the fact that you
Speaker 2: know your partner chose you to have a child with.
Speaker 2: He has chosen you to be with, so obviously you
Speaker 2: have something in his eyes that they didn't have before you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's what you take away from it.
Speaker 1: You have the family unit that you have right now
Speaker 1: with him. He has chosen you. You are living it.
Speaker 1: So nothing good or healthy that can come from living
Speaker 1: in the past, and it's not even your past, living
Speaker 1: in his past. Like you're going down that track again.
Speaker 1: Normal curiosity to have a look. If you cannot control yourself,
Speaker 1: I just think block them, And I mean they're not
Speaker 1: going to know unless they're also stalking you. They're not
Speaker 1: going to know. If you block them, she's gonna make
Speaker 1: it less accessible for you and you can start to
Speaker 1: wing yourself off it. The other thing that might be
Speaker 1: happening is you do need to unpack wide. But I
Speaker 1: don't know. This is I'm just putting this out there.
Speaker 1: You have a kid. You guys have a kid together,
Speaker 1: A couple of years old, obviously because you've only been
Speaker 1: together a couple of years. Maybe she doesn't have a child,
Speaker 1: and maybe you have something, some deep seated issue where
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, she's living this amazing life, child free,
Speaker 1: and we know, like Laura and I have discussed this
Speaker 1: all on the podcast. When there's friends and I'm saying
Speaker 1: friends even though you aren't friends with her, But like
Speaker 1: when there's other people that are at a different part
Speaker 1: of life to you, it's easy to look when you're
Speaker 1: at home with the child, it's easy to look at someone.
Speaker 1: She might be going out drinking, she might be looking
Speaker 1: banging all the time with her friends, and she might
Speaker 1: look like she has this really fun care life and
Speaker 1: you might be at home be like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: talking yourself, making yourself crazy. What if he wants to
Speaker 1: go back to his ex? What if he doesn't want
Speaker 1: this life anymore? Like, I don't know what you're thinking.
Speaker 1: I just know that nothing good can come from living
Speaker 1: in this world, especially when it's been five years. It's
Speaker 1: just not healthy for you, No healthy for your relationship,
Speaker 1: not healthy if your partner. I'm assuming your partner doesn't
Speaker 1: know either. I'm assuming you're not like, Hey, it didn't
Speaker 1: other dip dive on Sally today she's looking great. So
Speaker 1: it's just something that the only person that can control it,
Speaker 1: unfortunately is you, and it's it's a matter of willpower,
Speaker 1: and it can become an addiction. So if you've been
Speaker 1: doing this for five years, if you have been looking
Speaker 1: and stalking, you probably feel like you know her even
Speaker 1: though you don't like you do not know her. So
Speaker 1: it does take a lot of self control to wan
Speaker 1: yourself off that.
Speaker 2: Do you reckon any of your exes? Do you reckon
Speaker 2: any of their current partners are stalking you on Instagram?
Speaker 2: I reckon they probably will with you, Actually, I don't
Speaker 2: probably how don't I reckon they'd keep that on that one.
Speaker 1: I did have an ex, I did speak to an
Speaker 1: next recently. I'm not telling of it. I don't think actually,
Speaker 1: any of my exes actually have girlfriends. I don't think
Speaker 1: I know. I just don't think there's anyone to stalk me.
Speaker 1: I'm not that interesting.
Speaker 2: Question number three.
Speaker 1: I'm turning thirty and need some advice. Is it inappropriate
Speaker 1: to host a birthday party at a venue and ask
Speaker 1: your guests to pay forty dollars per person. This would
Speaker 1: cover more than enough food with a bar tab cocktails included.
Speaker 1: I would love to know where you've gone for forty
Speaker 1: dollars with a bar tab and food. I have paid
Speaker 1: up with seventy dollars to attend other friends' birthdays, example
Speaker 1: a champagne breakfast or a set menu lunch. I have
Speaker 1: never take an issue with it, but now that it's
Speaker 1: my birthday, I feel rude to ask people to pay
Speaker 1: for an event that I want to throw. So I
Speaker 1: guess the question is, can you ask someone to pay
Speaker 1: forty dollars per person to come and celebrate your birthday?
Speaker 1: What do you think? Because I mean, I have my opinion.
Speaker 2: I mean I think you can. I think the only
Speaker 2: thing that needs to be really clear in this is
Speaker 2: that you disclose that people are going to have to
Speaker 2: pay money in the invitation. So, for example, if like
Speaker 2: you know, you send out a message being like, hey guys,
Speaker 2: I'm having a birthday. It's Saturday. The blah blah blah
Speaker 2: of this day starts at this time. It's at this place.
Speaker 2: Great if you want to come, let me know, and
Speaker 2: then all these people are like, y up, see you there,
Speaker 2: see there, see you there? And then you're like, cool,
Speaker 2: you all owe me money. I feel like that could
Speaker 2: be a little bit awkward, and also that would make
Speaker 2: a lot of people that are going be like oh okay,
Speaker 2: Like I feel like that's something you probably should have
Speaker 2: told us early on. I think it's the price of this.
Speaker 2: I think it's really really reasonable. I mean, I think
Speaker 2: if you were asking for like an excessive amount of money,
Speaker 2: then it could be a little bit like, oh, well,
Speaker 2: I guess you know, if people want to go to that,
Speaker 2: but you also have to accept the fact that they
Speaker 2: might not be willing to spend that much to celebrate
Speaker 2: someone else's birthday.
Speaker 1: I think this is totally fine. I actually didn't even
Speaker 1: second guess this this question. I was like, I would
Speaker 1: do that. Sure, I think it's fine to send out
Speaker 1: a mass text or a Facebook messenger or whatever it is, whichever.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you're not like courier pigeoning the invitation to people.
Speaker 1: But like, I think it's fine. Bag guys, it's my birthday,
Speaker 1: Come celebrate with me. Let's go to dinner. I'm going
Speaker 1: to book this place forty dollars per person that covers
Speaker 1: drinks and food seven point thirty. If you can make
Speaker 1: it let me know, I would love to have you.
Speaker 1: You're literally just saying like, hey, let's just all get
Speaker 1: together and celebrate a birthday. I don't think you have
Speaker 1: to take that upon you to throw this huge bash
Speaker 1: and pay for everything. Like I think it's how you
Speaker 1: present it.
Speaker 2: It would be.
Speaker 1: Very different if you're like, hey, guys, I have charted
Speaker 1: a super yacht that is five hundred dollars per person.
Speaker 1: Be there seven o'clock. Like that's different because that's a
Speaker 1: lot of money, a big expectation. But I think it's
Speaker 1: different to say, come have dinner with me, you know,
Speaker 1: and help me celebrate. It's forty bucks, you get dinner,
Speaker 1: you get drinks. Forty dollars is like, Maye, that's value
Speaker 1: for money. That is insane. That is insane value for
Speaker 1: money anywhere these days. So I think, don't overthink that.
Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, you have given
Speaker 1: the information, you have said, this is where it is,
Speaker 1: this is what it costs. I would love to have you.
Speaker 1: It's cool if you don't, like if one of your
Speaker 1: guests doesn't want to go, or if they find themselves
Speaker 1: a bit tight that week and they don't want to
Speaker 1: spend that much money. They just won't come, and they
Speaker 1: will make an excuse, and they're not gonna hate you
Speaker 1: for throwing a dinner that costs forty dollars. They're just
Speaker 1: gonna say, hey, have an amazing time. I've actually got
Speaker 1: other plans, so I don't think you're going to ruin
Speaker 1: any friendships by But I think this is a pretty
Speaker 1: standard thing. I've gone to loads of friends' birthdays where
Speaker 1: everyone just turns up and pays for the dinner and drinks.
Speaker 1: I've had birthday dinners where everyone just comes and they've
Speaker 1: paid their dinners. That's just more of a like a
Speaker 1: friend's meeting up kind of thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that because it's not like you're just
Speaker 2: asking them to cover the venue higher. They're actually getting
Speaker 2: something in exchange for it. If it was just for
Speaker 2: like a venue higher, then it maybe could feel a
Speaker 2: little bit different. The exact same thing. Or two weeks ago,
Speaker 2: I was on a boat for a friend's birthday and
Speaker 2: we all chipped in like seventy five bucks so that
Speaker 2: it would cover the cost of the boat. And that
Speaker 2: was great, Like no one battered an eyelid at it.
Speaker 1: And you just if you didn't have the semi dollars.
Speaker 1: You just wouldn't have gone right, and you're not gonna
Speaker 1: hold that against you wouldn't held that against the birthday.
Speaker 2: No, not at all. But I mean also think about
Speaker 2: all the other things that you contribute money to. You Like,
Speaker 2: if you go to a hen's party, you always chip in, right,
Speaker 2: if you go to some baby showers like events like that,
Speaker 2: it is really normal to be like, hey, guys, this
Speaker 2: is what's happening, and this is how much it's gonna cost.
Speaker 2: I genuinely don't see any problem at all with this.
Speaker 2: I think that maybe you are just the type of
Speaker 2: person that feels a little bit uncomfortable asking people for money.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're an mpath, which is great, you're
Speaker 1: not an asker. But I can almost promise you I
Speaker 1: don't thin anyone's gonna take an issue with this, and
Speaker 1: if they do, they're just not going to come. Then
Speaker 1: you're not gonna lose a friendship over it. So I
Speaker 1: hope you have a bloody good thirtieth birthday party with
Speaker 1: all your friends and you drink and eat your heart's
Speaker 1: content for forty bucks. Don't lose sleep over it, because
Speaker 1: you are not doing the wrong thing on well, that
Speaker 1: is it from us and ask uncat produce. Akisha, thanks
Speaker 1: for jumping on the podcast today.
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Speaker 2: That's why we love making a podcast right, So that
Speaker 2: is why the listener's choice is like the besnies for us,
Speaker 2: and that's what it's kind of the only one that
Speaker 2: really care about.
Speaker 1: And on that note, please keep your questions coming into
Speaker 1: life on CUP podcast. Just put us on the top
Speaker 1: accidently unfiltered. It's compli. They said that it's professionals, anything
Speaker 1: plenty that has happened to you. Keep them rolling in
Speaker 1: and don't forget to we Mum tayte, donk friends and
Speaker 1: share the love because we love.
Speaker 2: Now, let's get married.
Speaker 3: Takamata baby kaabaaaaa