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Speaker 1: Good morning to you Opposition leader, and a very happy birthday.

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Speaker 3: First off, good morning Katie, thank you so much, and

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Speaker 1: It's great to have you in the studio ahead of

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Speaker 2: It's a massive day. I mean not only.

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Speaker 1: But Selena, I want to ask you first off about

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Speaker 3: But what are the preventions and the programs that are

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Speaker 3: And that's where our youth programs and the intervention around

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Speaker 3: which is for schooling resources, to pay for this election commitment.

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Speaker 4: And there's one region.

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Speaker 2: It's not an additional budget. There's not an additional.

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Speaker 3: Budget, which is why Katie, we've been asking these questions

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Speaker 3: of Joe Hersey. She's given us some spin off. She's

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Speaker 3: keep saying, you know, you don't agree with swimming lessons.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely we agree with swimming lessons. We just want to

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Speaker 3: know who is paying for these so called swee free

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Speaker 3: swimming lessons. And we have a regional school not that

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Speaker 3: far out of Darwin and Palmerston, Katie, on the Highway

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Speaker 3: I won't say the name of the school, and they're

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Speaker 3: up to six thousand dollars. So that's six thousand dollars

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Speaker 3: less in their school budget and less in their classrooms

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Speaker 1: Just to get it really clear in my brain, so

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Speaker 1: are they being asked to take the swimming lessons and

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Speaker 1: the transportation of kids out of the school budget is

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Speaker 1: what you're saying. They're not getting additional funding for those

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Speaker 1: swimming lessons as had been understood prior to the election.

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Speaker 3: So there's two parts there, Katie. Nothing that we understand

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Speaker 3: charter flights, et cetera, overnight accommodation if you're really really

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Speaker 3: far from your closest swimming pool. But the department has

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Speaker 3: as we understand, allocated one hundred and fifty dollars per student.

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Speaker 3: So that's whether it's a student here in per Op

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Speaker 3: student on Croker Island who would need to fly in

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Speaker 3: would either be Jabbaru or Parmastae.

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Speaker 2: I was really going to be able to afford that.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely not.

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Speaker 3: So we just really want a clear answer from Joe Hersey,

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Speaker 3: who is the minister. She keeps saying, you know, we've

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Speaker 3: allocated this money, no school is going to be worse off.

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Speaker 3: We are now finding that is not the case, Katie.

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Speaker 3: So we'll can to ask those questions.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see what we can find out as well. Selena.

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Speaker 2: Before I let you go this morning.

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Speaker 1: I do want to ask the federal budget obviously being

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Speaker 1: for a number of years now about wanting some additional funding,

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Speaker 1: needs based funding when it comes to domestic violence. Are

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Speaker 1: you expecting that that could be handed down in the

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Speaker 1: federal budget tonight or what else would Territory labor like

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Katie, that's a big one.

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Speaker 3: We know that health wise, we're the least funded for

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Speaker 3: change absolutely when we look at the health data and

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Speaker 3: statistics here in the Northern Territory. We also know that

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Speaker 3: domestic violence needs to be funded on a needs base

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Speaker 3: pro rata rather than the population basis, which unfortunately the

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Speaker 3: territory has always been funded on in one percent of

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Speaker 3: the federal budget does not make a difference to us here.

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Speaker 3: It's merely a drop in the ocean for the Northern territory.

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Speaker 3: So we want to make sure that whatever the outcomes

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Speaker 3: territory is always better off when we have a labor government.

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Speaker 3: At the rains in Canberra, we want to make sure

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Speaker 3: that those key areas are funded around health and domestic violence.

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Speaker 3: But we're really hoping that we'll see the continuation of

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Speaker 3: some great infrastructure funding as well, updating our roads. We've

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Speaker 3: seen some great improvements for businesses, agribusinesses, our pastoral businesses

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Speaker 3: who have seen the benefits when our roads do get upgraded,

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Speaker 3: particularly in those regional areas and continue to be a

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Speaker 3: really hope that we will see the continuation of that

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Speaker 3: work under the budget tonight.

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Speaker 1: Well let's wait and see what comes out. Selena Hubo,

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Speaker 1: the Opposition leader, thank you so much for your time.

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Speaker 2: Have a great birthday.

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Speaker 4: Thank you very much, Katie, thank you