1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: As I mentioned throughout the opener, we know that doctor 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: Ella Stack. She was the mayor who steered Dowin through 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: the aftermath of Cyclone Tracy and passed away in Canberra 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: aged ninety four. The Lord Mayor Convat Scarlets joins me 5 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: on the show right now, good morning to your call. 6 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 2: Morn Icita, and I want to pay tribute to veil 7 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 2: Ella Stack. She was the first Lord Mayor of Darwin. 8 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 2: She was the first female Lord Mayor of Australia. But 9 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 2: most importantly she was a real Darwin person. I met 10 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 2: Ella when we opened the railway when their way came 11 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 2: to Darwin. Sat next to me and we're talking. I 12 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 2: told you where I leave it at me. I remember 13 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 2: your house during Cyclone Tracy. I walked out of my house, 14 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 2: or what was left of it, and I saw yours 15 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 2: and the only thing was left on yours was the floorboard. 16 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:44,959 Speaker 2: And on top of this was a doctor who used 17 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 2: to live there, stitching himself up from the catch he 18 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 2: suffered during the cyclone. 19 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 3: It blew me away. 20 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 2: She knew exactly who I was and where I was, 21 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 2: and I want to say that she was really blessed. 22 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 2: She passed away ninety four years old, peacefully with the 23 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 2: families around here. We owe her eternal gratitude for what 24 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 2: she did during cyclone Tracy treating eleven thousand people in 25 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 2: an emergency clinic. She put in down high and then 26 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 2: having a great input in the reconstruction of Darwin at 27 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 2: the time when a lot of people were saying, close down, down, 28 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 2: take it somewhere else. She stalked to her guns and 29 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 2: she said, no, it's going to be here, and she 30 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 2: did it. You'll remember forever, Ella. And then Mike, condolences 31 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 2: to your family. 32 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, what an incredible woman and an incredible part of 33 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: the Northern Territories history and something that you know, a 34 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: lot of us probably just have no comprehension because. 35 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 3: We didn't leave this kind of situations. 36 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 2: And she I mean waking up in the morning or 37 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 2: getting out of your house in the morning, that's no 38 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,559 Speaker 2: house anymore, and looking around your place was like Hiroshima. 39 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 2: And as she said in her book, is anybody alive 40 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 2: out there? And that was your first thought? And then 41 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 2: she refused to leave a lot of people left Darwin. 42 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 2: She stayed back and she treated people people that needed 43 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: to help. 44 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: It sort of goes to remind you as well, just 45 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: what Darwin is built on, and just how tough and 46 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 1: resilient Territorians are. 47 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 2: We are very, very resilient, and we've got a great 48 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,519 Speaker 2: community spirit for the same reason because we live constantly 49 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 2: under the threat of severe cyclonic events everything and we 50 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 2: stick together. And I say many times one of these 51 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 2: Darwins so good is because we don't have ghettos. We 52 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 2: don't have ethnic neighborhoods. We don't have a Greek neighborhood, Italian, Chinese. 53 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 2: We've got a neighborhood and Greeks, Chinese, Indonesian. It did 54 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 2: live in the same neighborhood. We're serving a lot of 55 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 2: this traditions and a lot of the customs and talking 56 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 2: about it. We just had the Thai first of all. Yep, 57 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 2: we're heading towards the Greek festival. We had the Italian, 58 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,119 Speaker 2: following by the Indian. And this is our community, which 59 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 2: is a great place to live and bring up your family. 60 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: Absolutely, now, Coln, we did just have Brent Porter, the 61 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: member for Fanny Bay in the studio about the concerns 62 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: that he and some others around the r V park proposal. 63 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: Where are those consultations at at the moment. 64 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 3: It was not a proposal. 65 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 2: It was actually a call people to give us the 66 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 2: opinion to see if we can run a trial for 67 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 2: our vs. Now there are problems down there with a 68 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 2: lot of itinerance and a lot of drunks, so severe 69 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 2: that Brett acted to help the people around there by 70 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 2: finding the money to get a patrol. 71 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 3: So there is a problem. Now. 72 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 2: The RV was to activate the place. We're not going 73 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 2: to take over the whole park. We're going to have 74 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 2: The idea was to have a very small number of 75 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 2: RVs fully recreational vehicles, fully self contained, to see what 76 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 2: we can do. Now we're going through the responses we got. 77 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 2: We're going to review them. It would come to the 78 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 2: next council we. 79 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 3: Make a decision. 80 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 4: How many responses did you get? 81 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 3: We got about six hundred. 82 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: Any idea of the sort of positive pro. 83 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 2: Because represent the counsel. But if people don't want it, 84 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 2: I'm not going to say well we'll do there. Well 85 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 2: we find something else and people can live with the 86 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 2: tinerans and drunks. 87 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 4: So it's not a done deal at. 88 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 2: This point us we were asking people's opinion. There's not 89 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 2: much point of asking off interview actually made up your mind, 90 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 2: and I'm the first person to say no. If the 91 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 2: commune does want it, we're not going to. 92 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 3: Put it there. 93 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: So from your perspective, Corn, you're going through that consultation process. 94 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: It's not a done deal, but you want to see 95 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: that area activated so that you can minimize some of 96 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: the anti social behavior. 97 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 2: If we don't put anything there, the current situation will continue. 98 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 2: The problem we've got at the moment is and I'm 99 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 2: glad Brett is doing a lot of work, but massaggestion, Brett, 100 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 2: talk to your cabinet colleagues. Do something about the police, 101 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 2: do something about alcohol measures, do something about returning this 102 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 2: pep to country, do something about stopping this people come 103 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 2: to country before we start talking about ourvis ourvis is 104 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 2: the smallest of the problem. And the same thing with 105 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 2: the playgrounds. This is not what's burning the community at 106 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 2: the moment. What community is arguing about and angry about. 107 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 2: Then don't demonstrating in front of Parliament the RVs or playgrounds. 108 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 2: They're demonstrating about crime because they're really scared. When I 109 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 2: hear people like Charlie King, who is Indigenous, to tell 110 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 2: in public on the radio that he's scared to go 111 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 2: out mate, we've. 112 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 3: Got a problem. 113 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 4: Yeah. 114 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: Look, I don't think anybody could disagree with that. At 115 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: the moment, there has been so many issues when it 116 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 1: comes to crime and anti social behavior. 117 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 2: Happy to buck, break't capital bread to have back any 118 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 2: member of parliament either side. We're going to stand up 119 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 2: and say we have to do something. We have a problem. 120 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 2: We have to recognize got a problem. Even indigenous people now, 121 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 2: Yeah on the show and said it's our problem. 122 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: We He's come on the show and had told us 123 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: just that, as has Helen's secretary who'd come on quite 124 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 1: some time ago and said enough's enough. Con I want 125 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 1: to ask you from a council perspective, have you seen, 126 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: you know, an increased volume or an increased severity of 127 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: some of the concerns that you've got around anti social behavior? 128 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 3: Look, yes, we do. 129 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 2: I have to admit the numbers now a bit smaller 130 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 2: than they used to be before, but still the same 131 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 2: offenders offense. We had a situations where when you call 132 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 2: the policy police don't turn up. Recently, I had in 133 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 2: one of my libraries a person became abusive punts the 134 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 2: hand of the person of my officer on the desk. 135 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 2: He was apprehended by some clients in the library. He 136 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 2: was hold the police was called and the police never 137 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 2: turned up. 138 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,239 Speaker 4: So where did this happen. 139 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 2: Happened very recently in one of my libraries. I'm not 140 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 2: going to give details because I'm going to talk to 141 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 2: the commissioner myself and give you to him and tell 142 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 2: him that this is what's happening at the moment. 143 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: But so you had somebody in one of those libraries working. 144 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 4: I have the hand puns. 145 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 3: On the desk. 146 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:48,559 Speaker 2: The guy was violent, aggressive, abusive who was hold down 147 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,239 Speaker 2: by the other people there. 148 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 3: Police was called police tntenna. 149 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 4: Was this luck within the last couple of weeks, the. 150 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 3: Last five days? 151 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 2: Look, it is bad and the situation is so bad 152 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 2: when the liquor industry talks to me and they want 153 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 2: restrictions and other things are really bad. 154 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 3: And I am the same. I mean, I want restrictions too. 155 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 2: I've got a lot of friends out there that feeling 156 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 2: barrassed because some of their friends and colleagues and relatives misbehave. 157 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 3: I will. 158 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 2: It's the stage now that people from the Land Council 159 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 2: calling me to work with them together to see how 160 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 2: can address a dissociation. 161 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: Well, look, I think that everybody within the community does 162 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: want to work together. 163 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 4: We want to see some change. 164 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 3: It has to add it and we need to change. 165 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: One hundred pc con before I let you go this morning, 166 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: Paul Arnold's resignation, what's the process now? 167 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 2: Well, Paul resigned for personal reasons. And look, it's very, 168 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 2: very difficult to balance private life, public life, businesses. You 169 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 2: saw what happened to Natasa files this weekend was despicable, 170 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 2: very spoiled, self entitled young men. See no problem of 171 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 2: using the Chief Minister on your private time. I wonder 172 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:01,239 Speaker 2: what will happen if somebody published name, he's telephone number 173 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 2: and his address. Because he's a politician, as he advocating 174 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 2: for particularism, I'm pretty sure he'll be very upset. But 175 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 2: he was very entitled and here was going on. 176 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: And you know, I think I reckon it was a 177 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: bridge too far. I think it's definitely a bridge too far. 178 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 2: Every elected member we've got now it's subject to public 179 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 2: scrutiny all the time, seven days a week. They have 180 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 2: to run their life, public life, private life and business 181 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 2: sometimes just too much. And I think Paul found it 182 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 2: very difficult, and he did the right thing instead. Of 183 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 2: actually sitting there doing nothing. 184 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 3: He resigned. 185 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 2: Now we are going to accept your resignation and then 186 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 2: we'll find out what the most suitable time to call 187 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 2: for a by election. 188 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: Now, before I let you go, there has been questions 189 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: about the lawns and about the grass growing high. 190 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 4: I know you'd mentioned to us before about the contract. 191 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 2: Now most of the uncut loans have been done very 192 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 2: very well. We start getting our message from people, thank 193 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 2: you very much. Then you contract and I'll do the 194 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 2: same and we're going back to normal. 195 00:08:58,400 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 3: But before we. 196 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 2: Go there, on the weekend of the fourth and fifth 197 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 2: of June, we've got the down in the National Truck 198 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 2: Boat Festival, and of course a big expot in which 199 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 2: most of our cities, sister cities and friendly sit participating 200 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 2: cities like Dilli Chinhau Shan Jan Anchorage, Carlinos. That will 201 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 2: be here and we're going to have fun and I'll 202 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 2: let you know more about next time. 203 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 4: Yep. 204 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 1: Sounds like a plan. Good on your colan, Lovely to 205 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: catch up with you as always. 206 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you.