WEBVTT - Tim Robards - SAS AUSTRALIA - TV Personality 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:01.760 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:04.960 TV Reload. The podcast last week theyby welcome back guys 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:07.560 to TV Reload. My name is Benjamin Norris and this 0:00:07.720 --> 0:00:10.200 is your podcast to get all the inside goss on 0:00:10.280 --> 0:00:12.600 the popular TV shows that you might have been watching 0:00:12.680 --> 0:00:15.480 from around the world. 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Sas 0:01:10.240 --> 0:01:13.440 Australia is a huge show for Channel seven where celebrity 0:01:13.440 --> 0:01:16.760 contestants undergo a training program that echoes the Special Air 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:20.920 Services selection. They face several challenges that test both their 0:01:20.920 --> 0:01:23.680 physical and mental capacity, and with all that yelling from 0:01:23.680 --> 0:01:26.520 Aunt Middleton, I'm pretty sure the main prize win or 0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:30.840 lose is PTSD. I will ask him about being called boring, 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:33.920 and will find out about his relationship with Craig McLaughlin 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:36.640 or what that was like behind the scenes. I'll ask 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:39.160 him if he felt he needed to beat his wife Anna, 0:01:39.160 --> 0:01:41.920 who did the series last year, and I also will 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:44.720 find out what pushed him each day. There is also 0:01:44.760 --> 0:01:47.640 a lot to unpack with Tim's interrogation and we will 0:01:47.680 --> 0:01:50.240 talk about the time in his life that could have 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:53.760 been explored and been a little bit more revealing. Plus 0:01:53.760 --> 0:01:56.280 we will get plenty of exclusives from behind the scenes 0:01:56.320 --> 0:01:59.559 of Sas Australia, which finished last week on Channel seven, 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:01.680 but guys, you can still catch up on on seven 0:02:01.760 --> 0:02:05.240 plus if you missed it anyway, let's bring Tim into 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:07.680 the podcast. And guys, I really do hope you enjoy 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:12.840 this catch up with sas Australia's latest success story. Hey Tim, 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:16.200 I'm very well. You know what I just realized I 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:19.360 was Because it's Halloween. I got tagged in this photo 0:02:19.480 --> 0:02:21.800 with you, and I don't know if you've ever remembered, 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:24.920 because this is now ten years ago, but we were 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:27.400 at a Halloween party together in Sydney that a woman 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:29.680 Tiffany I think her name was, that set it up. 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:32.480 Oh yeah, yeah, and you. 0:02:31.840 --> 0:02:33.600 Your show was about to start. No one had even 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:37.040 seen an episode of the Bachelor, and do you remember 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:39.760 they had to like write Bachelor on your suit and 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:41.960 put roses on you so people knew who you were 0:02:42.080 --> 0:02:45.280 because you were about to be catastrophically famous, but not 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:45.919 at that point. 0:02:46.320 --> 0:02:51.760 Yeah, there was. So I went as a as a 0:02:52.560 --> 0:02:54.600 the thing was like, all right, let's do the suit. 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:57.960 But as a bachelor that's had like, you know, like 0:02:58.080 --> 0:03:00.840 been accosted by these women. So it was like a 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:02.000 food that was all. 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:05.640 Torn and I had a black eye and and all that, 0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:07.919 and I remember the next day I got a call 0:03:08.040 --> 0:03:12.440 from the producer going, what the f what are you doing? 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:16.600 What are you doing? Was he was so dirty and 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:19.520 that I had, you know, potentially I don't know, either 0:03:19.639 --> 0:03:21.880 mocked or tonic or whatever. 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:22.880 You know. 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:24.760 I got in trouble as well because I was dressed 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:29.200 as an Indian and on stage being interviewed by Angela Bishop. 0:03:29.200 --> 0:03:31.600 I think it was one of those entertainment ladies and 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:34.000 you know you're in trouble with the network because you've 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:35.840 been punched in the face and attacked by women. But 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:38.360 I actually said I came dressed as an Indian because 0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:40.760 it was my favorite food, Indian food. So it's very 0:03:40.880 --> 0:03:44.160 casually and so between the two of us, surprise we 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:46.080 weren't canceled and not talking right now? 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:49.040 Yeah, well it wasn't. There was the same cancer culture 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:49.400 back then. 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:51.000 We survived. We're here. 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:53.920 I think everyone else got the joke with mine, apart 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:55.480 from the producer. 0:03:56.080 --> 0:03:57.960 Do you still speak to him, No. 0:03:57.960 --> 0:03:59.400 I haven't for a while. That he was he was 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:00.760 he was a good actually just that. 0:04:01.840 --> 0:04:03.720 Well, Timmy, he's not going to listen to the podcast. 0:04:03.760 --> 0:04:05.120 It's okay, you won't come for you. 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:08.040 Yeah, you never know, you never know. 0:04:08.280 --> 0:04:12.440 Well, I should stop congratulations on completing the course. Congratulations 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:13.880 to you and Matthew. What an achievement. 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:16.599 Yeah, so it was a lot harder than it looks. 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:18.800 You know, I think what's being from home, you see 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:20.760 it is that some people want you look at me 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:22.039 and go, you know, well, I don't think I could 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:23.760 do that. I could walk along that road for to 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:26.400 do that. But the course the hardest because the course 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:29.760 is all the stuff in between the challengers. They grind 0:04:29.800 --> 0:04:32.600 you down. They constantly keep you in a state of 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:36.680 fear and stress and anxiety, and that getting to every 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:39.320 day feels like a week. So to get to the end, 0:04:39.400 --> 0:04:41.640 and for me to get to the end without being 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:44.200 totally broken was was quite an achievement. 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:47.159 What I feel like to you know, at times come 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:50.000 close to not completing the course. What are those What 0:04:50.040 --> 0:04:51.240 did those moments feel. 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:54.559 Like like when you know, the first two or three days, 0:04:54.560 --> 0:04:56.120 but I was like, I don't know if I can 0:04:56.200 --> 0:04:59.680 do this, like this issue, this constant fear and stress, 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:02.160 and that is not worse. Like I was doing well 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:04.760 in itially in a lot of the tasks and passing 0:05:04.839 --> 0:05:07.279 and there's that sense of achievement, But that sense of 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:09.800 achievement you don't get much of a pat on the back. 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:12.400 It's right done. On the next thing, that sense of 0:05:12.440 --> 0:05:17.120 achievement was not outweighing the constant discomfort in site that 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:18.560 I was in, and I'm like, man, I don't want 0:05:18.560 --> 0:05:20.800 to be I'm not. Actually I thought i'd feel a 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:23.400 lot more like wow, because I remember Anna talking to 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:25.840 me about hurting and she's like, didn't do this for this, 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:28.120 and then I was doing it and I felt amazing, 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:30.919 and you know he was he had no expectations on herself. 0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:33.480 I actually went in there with sign like that spectation 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:36.520 on myself from others and end with that pressure too, 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:38.520 like I've at least got to do as well as 0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:40.160 my wife or I will never be able to hold 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:41.360 my head up. I want to get home. 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:43.240 I wanted to know that though. So that was a 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:45.520 driving force because I mean, you know, I know that 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:47.960 Anna completed the course, you know, and she did eleven days, 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:50.240 and so I can imagine it would have been really 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:52.159 important for you to do the same thing. 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:57.160 It wasn't a driving force, but it was a great 0:05:57.320 --> 0:06:01.159 reason not to quit. But it wasn't my driving force 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:03.760 to go on there and do well. I didn't need 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:06.080 to go and I could have not done it at all, 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:08.000 and then I'd still never be compared, you know. But 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:10.120 once I'd gone yes, I'll do it, there was that 0:06:10.360 --> 0:06:14.080 underlying prector if I don't make it all the way 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:17.240 to the end, I'm always going to have that louing 0:06:17.279 --> 0:06:19.960 over me. But it was it wasn't ever the thing 0:06:20.000 --> 0:06:22.640 that made me do it or the thing that pushed me, 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:25.080 but it was the thing that just stopped me quitting. 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:26.960 It was one thing that stopped me quitting. 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:29.520 You know, if by any chance, you only did two 0:06:29.600 --> 0:06:32.600 days and she did eleven, you just hope that her 0:06:32.640 --> 0:06:33.560 genetics was stronger. 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:37.440 I guess, yeah, exactly. I think I got some good excuses, 0:06:37.520 --> 0:06:39.600 but I had no I definitely had other things that 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:41.800 really were the things that I used to drive me 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:44.440 to push through the end. I mean that was a 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:47.320 mixture of wanting to set as an example of my daughter. 0:06:47.360 --> 0:06:49.000 I know my wife did it, but you know, you 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:50.920 think your daughter is also going to work throople my 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:54.360 coo daughters, now, the second one on the way, it's 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:56.120 going to watch this, and you want them to have 0:06:56.240 --> 0:06:59.080 something to kind of be able to watch back and remember. 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:01.279 And what about the bragging rights at home? Because I 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:03.679 mean we saw that. You know, your wife Anna tweet 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:05.919 you know, tweeted or put it on Instagram that you 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:08.080 know she completed an extra day than you on the 0:07:08.080 --> 0:07:11.200 show because her series was longer. Does she have extra 0:07:11.280 --> 0:07:13.360 bragging rights at home? Is she allowed to have that? 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:16.720 You know, one of my mates, cit he has always 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:20.160 let you. I think he's the one in contole power. 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:21.440 So I'll just let her have that. 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:24.880 You did not let her have that though. You are 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:27.800 just saying that now, you're like, oh, I've got nowhere 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:28.080 to go. 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:30.440 Always set up for failure because I was set up 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:32.280 for fallue because there was no way I could beat 0:07:32.280 --> 0:07:35.440 her because I only our course only went for ten days. 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:37.160 I feel like we agree to disagree. 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:40.720 You know, you'd obviously compare the courses, and I actually 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:43.440 think that the course that you completed was much harder 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:46.240 than hers. When you swaped notes between the two of you, 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:48.440 what were the comparisons. 0:07:48.440 --> 0:07:51.520 Yeah, sometimes did be. I think the biggest comparison was 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:54.360 that she went in with no expectations on her from 0:07:54.400 --> 0:07:58.160 her very minimal from herself, from the DS, from what 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:01.119 you would deceive, the audience would think. And so every 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:03.840 day he lasted another day. He was kind of you know, 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:07.320 to the Laker, he was so happy where Yeah, me 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:09.760 going in there, I felt like I already come in 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:12.880 being the health and fitness guy with an expectation. I 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:15.640 look a certain way, there's an expectations. And then also 0:08:16.080 --> 0:08:19.240 my wife did so well, there's an expectape then for 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:22.360 me to do as well or better or forever be 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:26.200 you know. My wife then in her fat So they. 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:28.320 Were okay though, you know, in a world where we 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:30.440 celebrate the Matilda's and no one can remember any of 0:08:30.440 --> 0:08:32.679 the soccer wo's name, it's okay, you know for the 0:08:32.720 --> 0:08:33.680 woman to do well. 0:08:33.920 --> 0:08:37.160 Yeah, yeah, well, you know, yeah, possibly in our situation, 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:38.679 but there's still I think me and my wife are 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:42.240 very competitive scene in someway. Although she's super supportive, she's 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:43.480 also very competitive. 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:46.319 I love that you need it. 0:08:46.920 --> 0:08:49.360 So there was there was that that was a big 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:51.120 part of it. But then we come back and together, right. 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:53.320 So one thing she left out was, you know, she 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:55.960 would still have experienced all the stuff in between the 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:58.439 challenges because we only ever talked about the challenges and 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:01.199 the stuff you see uf you don't see it's the 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:03.640 day to day see all the you know, even the 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:05.920 runs they do sometimes we'd finish the task and they 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:09.360 go right, everyone run and they kind of beast you, 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:12.520 semi beast you with a run. You'd run push ups, 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:14.719 run push ups, run for kilometers and then they don't 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:16.400 show that at all. We've been through it. So you 0:09:16.520 --> 0:09:18.160 kind of like get to the camp and everyone's like, 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:19.760 oh my god, I'm you know, and you're like, well, 0:09:19.880 --> 0:09:22.040 you just went and did one little you know, climb 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:23.880 across the road. What are you so worn out for? 0:09:24.840 --> 0:09:27.320 You don't realize the run kilometers there we you know, 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:29.640 all the things you do, Like last night, even in 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:32.000 that final episode they said, oh, they were moved to 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:34.400 a holding ground, we were held in stress positions for 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:37.080 three hours. They kind of left that part out, but 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:39.679 you know, stress positions are ones where they hold you 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:41.920 in each position for about twenty minutes and then a 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:45.040 lay came and if you didn't hold that position, they'd 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:47.080 come in and yell at you and put your back 0:09:47.080 --> 0:09:50.439 in that position. So your body throbbing, your muscles are 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:53.120 aching in these positions, and that was the whole thing 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:56.080 that they left out, Like, why don't you just say 0:09:56.240 --> 0:09:58.720 they put us in stress positions? They like they've tried 0:09:58.760 --> 0:10:01.320 to stoppen it a lot and leave a lot of 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:02.480 that stuff out, you know. 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:04.079 Not to show the audience. I mean, I don't know 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:05.920 if I could. I could not do this course. Like 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:08.920 I just thought it was so stressful watching. I would 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:11.080 also say, I'd wonder if I'd be able to face 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:14.160 my biggest fear to be true, because mine is pretty bad. 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:17.160 Mine's the sound of people eating. You know, if I 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:19.920 had and I was watching everyone eating on this show 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:22.200 and I reckon, that would have had me pull out. 0:10:22.240 --> 0:10:24.200 I'd be like, yep, I'm out of the competition. 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:27.640 Yeah. One of the hardest things was the snoring orchestra 0:10:27.840 --> 0:10:30.800 at night. And you don't think about it, but like, 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:33.680 if you're not sleeping on that course, you will be. 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:37.160 You'll go pretty quick, like there's only so many nights 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:39.320 you can do with you are our sleep. And we 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:43.000 had two people like really loud ignored and then one 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:46.480 reverse or who would breathe in and then on the 0:10:46.480 --> 0:10:47.320 way out, it would be. 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:51.640 Do they pay you danger money for this sort of 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:53.280 a show, because I mean, you've done a few reality 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:55.040 shows right now, so I guess when you're on the 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:57.720 Bachelort it was your first reality experience. They probably wouldn't 0:10:57.720 --> 0:11:00.199 have paid you, you know, Motza like if THEYD you 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:01.959 do a show like that again, I mean you've done 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:04.240 on the Celebrity, you've done other shows. Is do you 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:07.040 get paid a lot more for SAS because of danger money? 0:11:08.360 --> 0:11:12.600 Probably? I mean everyone's on different things, but I think 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:15.480 that's probably one way. You know, that's the longer you last, 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:17.839 the better. And it's one of those those because even 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:21.240 though it's only ten days, you're still getting a full 0:11:21.679 --> 0:11:24.800 those you probably I guess you'd probably get paid similar 0:11:24.800 --> 0:11:27.120 to other stories they go for five or six week right, 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:31.000 So there's maybe there's that's positive in a way, But. 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:35.560 This would be your biggest payday there from a reality show, 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:38.760 wouldn't it. 0:11:38.920 --> 0:11:42.720 Maybe maybe I guess you haven't finished without going into it, 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:45.600 but I remember talking to Abby who did fifty five 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:48.920 days on Survivor, Yeah, and I think she was saying 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:49.880 that this was harder. 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:50.679 Wow. 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:54.760 So you know, nine days on SAS compared to fifty 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:57.880 five days on Survivor. I'm sure they think that you know, 0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:00.839 on six five days and survive and all that hell 0:12:00.960 --> 0:12:04.000 a lot more. But I'm a day to day grueling 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:05.720 sort of thing. I think you were saying it was 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:07.200 harder than you know. 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:11.040 Mental load though this show, the mental load would be 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:14.319 really high. So when you returned, Laura, did you find 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:17.240 that you behaved bizarrely or weirdly? Was there like a 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:20.640 hangover period where you'd be a bit snappy or you 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:22.720 didn't feel so motivated? Do you want to go catch 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:23.760 the waves down and BONDI? 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:26.040 I think because I knew I did well. 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:26.560 I was. 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:29.480 I came back with like quite a bit of self belief. 0:12:29.520 --> 0:12:32.559 I was really happy that was something I got out 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:34.520 of it. I knew how hard it was for me 0:12:34.559 --> 0:12:36.560 and how much I had to put through. That was 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:39.600 quite a positive. So I came back really somewhat positive. 0:12:39.640 --> 0:12:42.520 I couldn't tell anyone anything though, but I was having 0:12:42.640 --> 0:12:44.599 a little bit of It's almost a bit of BTSD 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:47.800 where I go to bed and every night for about 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:50.200 two weeks, i'd wake up, like almost. 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:52.080 I'd wake up and think I'd strangle. 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:55.120 Yeah, I was. I was waking up thinking that I'm 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:57.160 ready for another mentioning because you're constantly go, you know, 0:12:57.120 --> 0:12:59.440 I do this? Am I really my boots dry? 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:00.199 Try? 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:02.040 Is that right? And I'd wake up and it'd be 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:05.320 in a fluster. I'd be like I'm actually I'm back home. 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:08.559 I'm okay, I'm okay, you're okay. 0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:11.120 And that went on for about two weeks. Wow, you 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:13.520 can only imagine what it would be like if you 0:13:13.520 --> 0:13:16.839 were actually you know, you'd actually gone through war until 0:13:17.080 --> 0:13:19.760 different autrocities and all that, and did this for months, 0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:22.719 Like I can understand how my little taste of it. 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:25.640 You know, there's a lot of you know, potentially people 0:13:25.760 --> 0:13:28.920 see real bad dust would need a lot of support. 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:31.240 Well, Jackie came out today saying that, you know, she's 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:33.319 like as if these any of these celebrities could get 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:35.360 into sas you know, she took you all the task. 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:37.320 But what are your thoughts on that? Do you think 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:41.480 that you would be able to officially get into the SASH? 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:46.000 I think, like doing their stories, what they go through 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:49.640 is so much tougher. I think I in a younger 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:52.839 time would have had maybe the physical ability and stuff 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:55.680 that you've really got to have the mental want to 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:58.520 put through like they go through six months and that stuff. 0:13:58.559 --> 0:14:00.760 You know, you've you've really got to be sort of 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:03.839 a different build or like Ant says, he sort of 0:14:03.880 --> 0:14:05.599 says like we you know a lot of us to 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:07.680 dig dinners where the some of the earth. If we 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:10.080 weren't doing this, we'd probably be big drug dealers. I'm 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:11.920 pretty sure I've heard him say that before. We'd be 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:14.120 not drug necessarily drug dealer, but like we'd be. 0:14:14.280 --> 0:14:16.720 I'm like, if you weren't a million dollar island and 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:19.160 being on sas, I'm pretty sure you would be in 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:20.280 a lineup possibly. 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:22.040 Yeah. So, like you know, a lot of these people 0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:25.000 come from sort of you know, foster families and broken 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:28.400 families and this, and that they actually do really well 0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:31.400 with a real sense of structor, probably people who haven't 0:14:31.400 --> 0:14:34.080 grown up with my structor in their life, and what 0:14:34.120 --> 0:14:36.720 the military offers is a real center of structor, but 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:39.760 also that achievement and knowing you know, some of them 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:41.760 might be super patriotical I didn't want to help, but 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:45.880 there's also that level of like kinding all that kind 0:14:45.880 --> 0:14:49.200 of energy, and there's there's all of that so that 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:52.200 that is a different person there's generally in the s 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:53.320 So I think you have to have a lot of 0:14:53.320 --> 0:14:55.440 testos thrown, you have to have a lot of that, 0:14:55.520 --> 0:14:59.160 you know, that right kind of energy. So look, I 0:14:59.160 --> 0:15:03.360 think I if I had the want to be there, 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:06.160 I reckon I can I could put myself through that 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:08.120 pull degree. But as they said, you know, like I 0:15:08.120 --> 0:15:09.640 remember when Aunt went through, he said there was like 0:15:09.640 --> 0:15:12.240 two hundred and something people in three pasts. I think, wow, 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:15.040 you know, so that's I don't know if I'd fully passed, 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:16.520 but you know, i'd give it a red hot craft. 0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:18.720 I think you did pretty well. You did get to 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:22.200 meet some very amazing people. And the cast that they 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:25.440 put together for this show is always very complex because 0:15:25.440 --> 0:15:27.840 you're looking for people who might have had a check 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:30.280 a past, or they might have had had something happen 0:15:30.320 --> 0:15:32.680 in their lives that they really need to face. Who 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:37.240 surprised you the most when it came to the day 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:39.720 to day and getting to know these people up close. 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:43.920 Everyone for sort of different reasons, But. 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:46.880 Yeah, was there somebody in particular you were like, Wow, 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:49.760 I got really close to this person and it wasn't 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:52.320 who I thought they were from my own interpretation, you know, 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:54.680 from my own reading of the news or seeing them 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:55.280 on shows. 0:15:55.840 --> 0:15:57.120 I mean, yeah, I had a lot of that with 0:15:57.240 --> 0:16:00.360 a lot of them. There wasn't necessarily a stand. One 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:04.360 thing I did love about everyone in there was everyone 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:07.080 kind of allowed everyone to come in with a clean 0:16:07.160 --> 0:16:11.600 slate and it was open to you know, they weren't 0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:14.720 quick to judge and they're preconceived ideas. I think we 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:17.200 kind of all just left them and we're like, right, 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:20.080 let's just be open to you know, we've we've all 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:22.480 probably read things about each other, but let's be open 0:16:22.560 --> 0:16:24.840 to just a clean slate and get to know you 0:16:25.040 --> 0:16:26.720 for who you really are. Because I think everyone was 0:16:26.800 --> 0:16:28.800 kind of there's a lot of people in there for that, 0:16:29.440 --> 0:16:31.920 and that's one thing I really appreciated about it, and 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:33.680 I thought it was really nice and not sort of 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:35.520 said a few times, and I think we need a 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:37.000 bit more of that in the world. You know, everyone's 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:40.360 so quick to label and judge, and I think that 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:42.080 was nice to go in there with a clean slate. 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:45.600 I did, you know, I think initially I'd seen Cathy 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:50.040 you know, talk over the over the time, so different interviews, 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:52.200 and it was nice to see her at a point 0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:55.040 where things in her life it can be, you know, 0:16:55.160 --> 0:16:59.120 more open and honest, and she was quite a really 0:16:59.240 --> 0:17:03.080 nice person and very giving as much as he could. 0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:05.240 Like he was having a struggle in there because it 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:07.479 was bringing back a lot of memories and things I 0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:10.000 think for it from when he was overseas in prison, 0:17:10.240 --> 0:17:13.480 but he was a really sort of central goal and 0:17:13.520 --> 0:17:15.760 you can seek he's been through so much, he's been 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:20.560 really lovely. They also really wanted to know that they've 0:17:20.600 --> 0:17:23.639 turned the corner and they've you know, they've more to 0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:26.800 them than like expectively say heard through this label of 0:17:26.880 --> 0:17:29.040 cocaine passy that he's got to kind of live with. 0:17:29.320 --> 0:17:31.760 The person who I was thinking about was Craig McLaughlin 0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:34.040 after hearing his story and as much as we've known 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:36.520 about what had really happened to him after he'd been 0:17:36.560 --> 0:17:38.800 in the Rocky Horror Picture Show and he was almost 0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:42.520 you know, completely his career just came to a grinding halt. 0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:46.040 After hearing his story up close, How do you feel 0:17:46.080 --> 0:17:48.159 about him now? I mean, what was that experience like 0:17:48.440 --> 0:17:52.440