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Speaker 3: I feel as though today it's going to be a

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Speaker 3: is doctor Justin Colson. I'm the founder of Happy Families

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Speaker 3: I'm here with my wife Mum, to our six daughters,

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Speaker 3: missus Happy Families, Kylie. Today it's I'll Do Better Tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: It's where we introspect to talk about what's gone well

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Speaker 3: better parents tomorrow. Before we dive into it, though, we

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Speaker 3: received a voicemail from Happy Families dot com dot you.

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Speaker 2: High Happy Families. I'm Kayla, and I just want to

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Speaker 2: say thank you for your recent episode on kids and

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Speaker 2: reading books. I have an eight year old son who

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Speaker 2: Old me would have said something really dumb like that's

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Speaker 2: as they just had to read one more chapter. Such

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Speaker 2: a timely podcast for my family. Thanks for helping me

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Speaker 2: to not be a book snob.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I love that good.

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Speaker 3: That's so good. So on March the twentieth, we had

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Speaker 3: a chat with Sally Rippin, the Australian Children's Laureate, and

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Speaker 3: she talked all about this kind of stuff and its

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Speaker 3: obviously had an impact on Kayla. We so appreciate you

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Speaker 3: sending through your voicemail, Kayla, Happy Families dot com dot U.

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Speaker 3: Let us know what's going on, give us your feedback.

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Speaker 1: So I know why you're pretty excited. Yes, yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: because we have talked a lot on the podcast, Yes

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Speaker 3: Yes, I do you actually joined us. We had a

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Speaker 1: But this week we farewelled Baby number three. I keep

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Speaker 3: How did it feel. How did it feel for you

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Speaker 3: It's all about you. Yeah, to watch.

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Speaker 2: Hard to say goodbye.

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Speaker 1: We had to take two cars down and as a result,

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Speaker 1: So there was fights literally as they walked to the

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Speaker 1: And I just need you to know it's not okay.

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Speaker 3: Not very convenient, but counting the dollars, weren't you well?

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Speaker 1: It's all about compassion. Our kids get it wrong all

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Speaker 1: and I could only assume that if my heart was breaking,

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Speaker 3: Compassion. By the way, the etymology of compassion two words

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Speaker 3: Latin together and suffering, suffering together beautiful. We really hope

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