1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Now, we know that the current situation with the lockdown 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: lifting was obviously a positive for the large majority of 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: Territorians able to get back to work with some restrictions 4 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: in place. However, there are still quite a number of 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:16,959 Speaker 1: businesses who are really still doing it quite tough. And 6 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: joining me on the line right now is Andrew from 7 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: next level Gym. Good morning to you. Andrew, Good morning mate. 8 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: How are you going this week as you enter well 9 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: a week of not being able to open? 10 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, I mean you've got to stay positive, I guess, 11 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 2: and do what you can, stay active. But it's not good. 12 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 2: It's not good considering you know, this happened last time 13 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 2: with the last lockdown, and the same thing happened where 14 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 2: you know, pubs and clubs were able to open and 15 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 2: gym's were still locked down. 16 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: Andrew, I know that there has been sort of specific 17 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: advice given by the Chief Health Officer around, you know, 18 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: around keeping those gyms closed. I suppose the thing that 19 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: is a bit disheartening for everybody is like, at this 20 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: stage it doesn't appear as though we've got COVID in 21 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: the community, so lots of us wondering while we can't 22 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: just get back out there and get active again. 23 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, there's a lot of things that don't really 24 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 2: make a lot of sense. But I mean, really there's 25 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 2: a couple of things specifically, which is kind of what 26 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: they're using as the reason that gyms can't open, and 27 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 2: how inconsistent it is with the other things that are open. 28 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 2: And for me, I mean, I'm more about getting everything open. 29 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 2: I don't want pubs and clubs to be shut. But 30 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:41,759 Speaker 2: I think if the science for the gyms to stay 31 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 2: locked down is what they're saying, it's very inconsistent considering that, 32 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 2: you know, in a club, you got people dancing and 33 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 2: everything on top of each other drinking as well, so 34 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 2: that already weakens your immune system, and you contrast that 35 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 2: to gyms, which actually builds your immune system. Everything's spaced out, 36 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 2: you wipe everything down, we check in everyone that comes in, 37 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 2: and so you know, there's there hasn't been enough scientific 38 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 2: evidence for the fitness community, specifically gym owners, to warrant 39 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 2: the decision at all, and there's been no communication on 40 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 2: top of that as well. 41 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: So Andrew Good, what kind of impact does it have 42 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: on your business when you when you're not actually able 43 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: to operate. 44 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 2: Well, I really has a couple of sort of factors, 45 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 2: because one is obviously we're not we're going without income, 46 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 2: and so there's been the last the last lockdown was 47 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 2: two weeks, there was no income. This week it's been 48 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 2: sort of a week and a half. And then it's 49 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 2: also there's an issue for my staff, so you know 50 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 2: they've got inconsistent income. And then you've got members that 51 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 2: we're trying to find a routine and they're trying to 52 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 2: look after their health, not only physical but mental health. 53 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 2: Their routine is getting broken up. So a lot of 54 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 2: people sort of just lose motivation by the end of 55 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 2: it if every second week you get shut down. And 56 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 2: so yeah, there's a lot of there's a lot of 57 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 2: factors that impact us, not only financially, but the members 58 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 2: physically and mentally. Just when you consider all the benefits 59 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 2: of going to the gym. 60 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: Now we caught up on Friday, we had the midst 61 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: of a sport Kate Warden on the show talking about 62 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: those gyms being closed. Take a listen to what she'd 63 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: told us on the show on Friday. We know that 64 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: even gyms and others at the moment waiting wishing that 65 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: they were able to open you know, you think about 66 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: those people that own gyms. Seven more days without being 67 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: able to operate is bloody. 68 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 3: Heart o, Katie. Can I say really clearly to your 69 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 3: listeners that Jim's have been listened to. I've been on 70 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 3: the phone during lockdown talking to people and gym's. We're 71 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 3: not going to please absolutely everybody, but people from gyms 72 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 3: have been heard and we are discussing, you know what 73 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 3: is but we have to base the decisions on clinical advice, 74 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 3: and these are clinical advices. 75 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: Hopefully you could hear that audio. Okay there, Andrew, it's 76 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: you know. I mean they're saying that it is obviously 77 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: based on clinical advice. It's still a tough pill to swallow, 78 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: isn't it. 79 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 2: Well? I think it's not. I mean, yeah, of course 80 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 2: you can. You can pretty much make anything clinical advice. 81 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,799 Speaker 2: But I mean, where's a consistency. How can you explain 82 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 2: that apartment and a nightclub is clinically approved and a 83 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 2: gym isn't. And that would be fantastic if someone could 84 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 2: explain that. And actually what I'd love to hear it 85 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 2: is for them to explain it in a nightclub and 86 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 2: see how that goes. But I mean there's no consistency. 87 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 2: And the thing is is that once again, it's all 88 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 2: good that you know we're locking down. There's certain reasons, 89 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 2: and you're for or against that, that's mine. But there's 90 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 2: no consistency when it comes to locking down, locking down 91 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 2: gym's versus opening pubs and clubs, and I mean, you know, 92 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 2: we just have to look at what's transpired. And you've 93 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 2: got a guy that's traveled everywhere, he's got nearly one 94 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 2: hundred close contact cases, and no one's tested positives for that. 95 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 2: People still walking around wearing masks everywhere they go in fear, 96 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 2: and you know, at twelve o'clock Thursday, the musk will 97 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 2: disappear like nothing happened, you know. So there's a lot 98 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 2: of inconsistencies going around. I think, you know, you're not 99 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 2: going to please everyone, for sure, but you're not going 100 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 2: to make you're really not doing yourself any favors when 101 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 2: you're not revisiting that discussion because no one's revisited with us. 102 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 2: And we've I've got formed a group of gym owners, 103 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 2: personal trainers, studio owners on Facebook and we're all in 104 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 2: discussions about what's happening, what we're trying to do. Who 105 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 2: we're contacting, and no one has mentioned anything from them. 106 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 2: And not only that, we're all pretty much on the 107 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 2: same page in regards to if the pubs and the 108 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 2: clubs are open, and the gyms should also be open 109 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 2: based on the reasons that they're giving because they're the 110 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 2: things that aren't consistent. If there was another reason which 111 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 2: was specific to gyms, we'd love to hear that, but 112 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 2: we haven't. And that's probably what's worse is because it's 113 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 2: kind of you've got the you've got the gym, which 114 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 2: is designed to keep you healthy physically and mentally. Then 115 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 2: you've got that close. But meanwhile, you have a pub 116 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 2: and a nightclub open. Alcohol weakens your immune system. You 117 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 2: could actually do that from home too, right, if there 118 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 2: was an essential thing versus a gym, I think anything, 119 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 2: you know, if you compare the pub in the gym, 120 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 2: the gym should be essential. 121 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 1: Well, I mean I kind of just think, sure, yeah, 122 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: and look, I get that, and I kind of just think, 123 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: like you pointed out earlier, it's more about that, you know, 124 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: it is about that consistency. If one can open, then 125 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 1: why not the other? But Andro I'm keen to ask you. 126 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: You mentioned then that you want that that really you 127 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: just want that discussion revisited. I mean, is that your 128 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: message for the government this morning place, just have another 129 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: look at it? 130 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, I mean I'll have That's one of the messages, 131 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 2: definitely to have a look at it. If we've been 132 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 2: sending a lot of emails to people that we think 133 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 2: need to get the emails. Nothing's come of that so 134 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 2: far than an email to the cheap medical health officer 135 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 2: and also hughe heggy lot from the last lockdown. I 136 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 2: still haven't got to apply from that. And you know, 137 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 2: so there's a lot of they're saying they're they're talking 138 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 2: to us, but they're not. As far as I know, 139 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 2: they haven't spoken to me. And I've emailed, I've gone 140 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 2: through the proper channels. The next channel we have to 141 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 2: take has to be a bit more, you know, into 142 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 2: our own hands, where you know, we have a group 143 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 2: here with all of the gym owners in Darwin and 144 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 2: where you know we're thinking about other avenues, either legal 145 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 2: avenues or we just we just stayed. Look, the next 146 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 2: time in lockdown, we're not We're not going to meet 147 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 2: that expectation because you haven't provided us any information and 148 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 2: know any reason why. And you haven't been consistent, you 149 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 2: haven't spoken to us, and it's almost in the form 150 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 2: of a protest. But we want to do everything the 151 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 2: right way from me, and that you know you're really 152 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 2: leaving people no choice considering the pubs and the clubs 153 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 2: are open. 154 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: Andrew, I tell you what I reckon. There will be 155 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: a lot of people out there who support you this morning. 156 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: I know that I've got a lot of messages towards 157 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: the end of last week saying why can't we get 158 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: back to the gym, So I know there'll be plenty 159 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: of people out there listening this morning who will be 160 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: supporting you. I really appreciate you taking the time to 161 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,719 Speaker 1: have a chat with me and all the best. Let 162 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: us know whether you sort of whether you do get 163 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: any response from any of those emails and letters that 164 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: you've seen. Would be really keen to hear from you again. 165 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 2: If you have, Yeah, thank you, And I really appreciate 166 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 2: just the opportunity really to just share those thoughts. 167 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: Around them anytime. 168 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 2: Mate. 169 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: I think it's so important for us, you know, whether 170 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: we agree or disagree. I think it's so important that 171 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: people actually know the ram of vacations on business when 172 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: we talk about these lockdowns. 173 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. 174 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, good on you mate, Thank you for having a 175 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: chat with me this morning. Andrew, no worries to and 176 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: well it is just twenty seven minutes after eleven o'clock. 177 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: That's Andrew there from Next Level Gym. And I know, 178 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: like I said, there was a lot of people who 179 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: messaged towards the end of last week who were concerned 180 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: that they weren't going to be able to go back 181 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: to the gym and questioning why. I know that some 182 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: gyms had even said, look, we can hold sessions sort 183 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: of you know in areas that are more open, or 184 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: modify the way that they're doing things as well, in 185 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: an effort to try their best to really ensure that 186 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: they are able to open. But it hasn't happened. So 187 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: again I will say, I know there are plenty of 188 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: people who would like to see those gyms reopen.