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Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome to another episode of Outspoken. You're joined

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Speaker 1: by journalists Amy Kate and Sophie Torbert. Coming up on

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Speaker 1: the episode why Chappelle Corby has every right to make

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Speaker 1: money from her book The Rise of the Power Couple

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Speaker 1: Online and one side Hustle that might be going too far?

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Speaker 1: But first, what have you been up to this week? Amy? Well,

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Speaker 1: I've realized that this is actually the first week that Kate,

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Speaker 1: soph and I have actually all officially lived apart from

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Speaker 1: each other. So we're one week into life without watching

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Speaker 1: Kardashians Whenever you want life. Yeah, no, Bachelor, I've already

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Speaker 1: been in a year in I've already I've already weaned

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Speaker 1: myself off all my favorite shows. Well, it's actually worked

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Speaker 1: out quite well because Dale and I have totally different bedtimes,

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Speaker 1: so he goes to bed super early, so when I

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Speaker 1: feel like a parent, like, I'll go and you know,

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Speaker 1: get out of chocolate and watch Love Island or something.

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Speaker 1: It's been great. Well, I have Brandon so well trained.

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Speaker 1: He started watching YouTube. Last night. We literally watched Sarah's

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Speaker 1: Day on repeat, Old school Sarah's Day. Yeah, it was great.

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Speaker 1: What is he getting out of that? He loves Kurt,

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Speaker 1: so I don't know. We just love What about UK.

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Speaker 1: What's life like living with your boyfriend Reese? Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: been good, thank you. We've just been trying to get

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Speaker 1: the house organized. So we got a wardrobe finally and

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Speaker 1: built that from my Kia so that all went well,

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Speaker 1: no arguments. I also realized today that my television that

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Speaker 1: I used to have in my bedroom was stolen during

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Speaker 1: our move. We moved two weeks ago and I was like,

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Speaker 1: do you know where the TV is? And He's like no,

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Speaker 1: And we realized that whilst we were moving out the front,

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Speaker 1: someone's come along and taken it. Well, we should probably

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Speaker 1: move on to our first topic. Chappelle. Corby was thrust

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Speaker 1: back into the spotlight last week when she spoke publicly

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Speaker 1: for the first time since arriving home to Australia more

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Speaker 1: than two years ago. The forty two year old spoke

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Speaker 1: to Kyle and Jackie O, as well as Studio ten

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Speaker 1: as part of her press tour to promote her book

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Speaker 1: My Story, which she wrote alongside Catherine Baronello. She bravely

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Speaker 1: shared her harrowing struggles with men health and again proclaimed

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Speaker 1: her innocence. Corby was convicted of smuggling four point one

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Speaker 1: kilograms of marijuana into Bali and was sentenced to twenty

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Speaker 1: years in jail. Questions have now been raised over whether

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Speaker 1: Chappelle should be allowed to profit from book sales, with

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Speaker 1: Australian laws forbidding those convicted of a crime to profit. Now,

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Speaker 1: I think when we look into this topic, we have

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Speaker 1: to remember that the media has played such a huge

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Speaker 1: role in this and we are seeing again media backlash

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Speaker 1: on Chappelle Corby about this idea that she is profiting

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Speaker 1: from a crime. But I think from everything Kate Sophen

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Speaker 1: I know about the case, she is the president who

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Speaker 1: should be profiting after the hell she has been put through.

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Speaker 1: Amy is the perfect person though to talk about this case,

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Speaker 1: because she did complete her master's thesis on the topic,

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Speaker 1: and she investigated trial by media in the Chappelle Corby case,

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Speaker 1: and because I have read her thesis and I am

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Speaker 1: very interested in the case myself. The complete ignorance when

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Speaker 1: discussing this case has really annoyed me. This week. I

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Speaker 1: have listened to a number of podcasts and media reports

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Speaker 1: forgetting about is this case captured the attention of the

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Speaker 1: Australian public because there is so much doubt over whether

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Speaker 1: she did it or not. Now, Amy, can you run

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Speaker 1: us through the facts of this case. Well, when you

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Speaker 1: take all the theatrics out of this case and you

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Speaker 1: just lay the information out there for the world to see,

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Speaker 1: it just absolutely still shocks me that people can think

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Speaker 1: that Chappelle Korby is guilty. Firstly, Chappelle had no criminal

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Speaker 1: history before any of this happened. She's not a drug user.

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Speaker 1: She's been tested for drugs. She showed up negative to

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Speaker 1: every single test and that might come as a shock

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Speaker 1: to some people because there's this bullshit going on in

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Speaker 1: the media that her family are druggies. I'm sorry, but

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Speaker 1: I'm sure anyone has a family member who has perhaps

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Speaker 1: smoked marijuana before. Just because a family member has done it,

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Speaker 1: it does not mean that you are guilty of that. Well,

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Speaker 1: if you look at it this way, this is how

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Speaker 1: that the prosecution was trying to push in the Chappelle

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Speaker 1: Corby case. They want you to believe that Chappelle Krby,

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Speaker 1: bag that she had slashed. So let's just put this,

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Speaker 1: let's just put these facts into perspective. When Customs office

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Speaker 1: what a lot of people don't realize. Chappelle didn't have

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Speaker 1: a direct flight from Brisbane to Bally. She went through

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Speaker 1: Sydney Airport, which is a very pivotal part of this case. Yes,

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Speaker 1: past customs officers, check in staff, sniffer dog's X ray machines, CCTV.

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Speaker 1: And they want you to believe that she decided to

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Speaker 1: get it for in Australia. And that's really contentious because

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Speaker 1: they didn't actually test the origin of the marijuana, which

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Speaker 1: about this her name and full address was on that bag.

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Speaker 1: Do you think if you're smuggling drugs into a country,

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Speaker 1: Would you not put a lock on your bag? Why

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Speaker 1: So it's very hard to believe that scanners wouldn't have

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Speaker 1: It just doesn't make any sense. And this case has

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Speaker 1: the most disturbing thing is the sentence she received is

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Speaker 1: more time in prison than rapists, terrorists and murderers get

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Speaker 1: in some cases. So we know more about the trial,

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Speaker 1: but can you tell us what you actually think happened

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Speaker 1: order to confirm that there was this rampant corruption going

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Speaker 1: we know? How did it happen? What's that saying? I

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Speaker 1: remember we did a story. I worked on this story

431
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,199
Speaker 1: in Today to Night and someone said, if it's not

432
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,440
Speaker 1: on Facebook, it didn't happen. True, this is a while ago.

433
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,680
Speaker 1: She would mean Instagram. Now, actually, I'm going to blow

434
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 1: your minds. We actually didn't take one photo together. What now?

435
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 1: How is that? Did you feel awkward asking him to

436
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 1: take a photo because he's not really into Instagram. To

437
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 1: be honest, when I think you're having a good time

438
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,879
Speaker 1: on a trip, you actually don't really think about taking

439
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,479
Speaker 1: a photo. There was a moment where I was going

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00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 1: to try and get one. We went to a NBL game,

441
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 1: but there were just too many people around and I

442
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,120
Speaker 1: actually just felt embarrassed in front of all of them.

443
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 1: I think some boys just have no idea though. For instance,

444
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,879
Speaker 1: I went on a holiday with my ex boyfriend a

445
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,879
Speaker 1: number of years ago, and he did not offer to

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00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 1: take a single photo of me, even though I said, oh,

447
00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 1: let me take a photo of you here, I'll take

448
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 1: one here. What about? I was waiting for that offer

449
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 1: in return of a photo, but it just didn't come.

450
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 1: Oh my god. My ex boyfriend was exactly the same.

451
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 1: It was like, you didn't want to be in any

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00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 1: photos with me. But I was talking to Reese about

453
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 1: it and he actually said because I joked and said,

454
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 1: apparently we didn't put enough Instagrams up, And he's like,

455
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 1: oh my god, if you want a photo, just tell me,

456
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 1: because I have no concept of it. I don't even

457
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,879
Speaker 1: think of it, like it's nothing that I'm doing consciously,

458
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 1: so it's quite funny. Well, that's where my boyfriend Brandon

459
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 1: is very good. He's such an upgrade from my previous boyfriend.

460
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 1: His ex girlfriend trained him so well. She wanted photos constantly,

461
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 1: so he will always make sure to get a photo.

462
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 1: He will always ask do you know what's funny? I've

463
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 1: been waiting to tell this story in the podcast, and

464
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,119
Speaker 1: I feel like now it's the perfect time. When I

465
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 1: went on a European holiday with my boyfriend, we found

466
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 1: it really difficult to get people to actually take photos

467
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,159
Speaker 1: because you weren't really sure who to trust in Europe

468
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 1: because you did hear you know, those horror stories of

469
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,399
Speaker 1: people running off with your phone. And one day when

470
00:23:56,440 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 1: we were in Amsterdam, there was this beautiful view. I thought, okay,

471
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask. I'm going to offer to take a

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00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,880
Speaker 1: photo for a nice looking person and then they'll offer

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Speaker 1: to take one for me. So I saw this sort

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Speaker 1: of like middle aged woman and she looked really nice

475
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:12,880
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, excuse me, do you want

476
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,439
Speaker 1: me to take your photo? And she said, oh, that

477
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 1: would be great, and she had an ASSIAX and I

478
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 1: thought fantastic, And anyway, it turns out she wanted a

479
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 1: photo of her and her best friend and their husbands,

480
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,639
Speaker 1: and do you know who? The husband ended up being

481
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,440
Speaker 1: none other than Alf Stewart from Home and Away, so Rayma,

482
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 1: so he rocks up, Oh get a how are you going?

483
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,639
Speaker 1: And it was hilarious because my boyfriend and I went

484
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,200
Speaker 1: sure if we went to acknowledge. I felt kind of

485
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 1: bad because I thought he must get it everywhere, so

486
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 1: we kin't have had this back and forth. And then

487
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 1: he's like, where are you from? And I'm like from Adelaide?

488
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,159
Speaker 1: And I said, oh, where are you from? And in

489
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 1: my head I was like Sommer Bay and anyway. Then

490
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 1: by the time we'd ended the conversation, I said, look,

491
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,120
Speaker 1: I do recognize you, but I'm more of a neighbors fan.

492
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 1: And he just laughed. He's like, you need to get

493
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 1: a better taste in television, so you never know you

494
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 1: might ask want to take a couple photo and meet

495
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 1: a celebrity moving away from Home and Away stars and

496
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,159
Speaker 1: onto influences. How do you think it actually makes people feel,

497
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 1: Sophie're seeing these sorts of photos and couple goals all

498
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 1: over their Instagram feeds. Well, I think that a lot

499
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:17,640
Speaker 1: of influencers are portraying a very unrealistic view of a relationship.

500
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 1: You know, no one's relationship is perfect. Everyone fights, everyone

501
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 1: finds something irritating about their probably suggesting that people put

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00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,360
Speaker 1: up little Insta stories and maybe them fighting or something. No,

503
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 1: I'm not suggesting that, but I'm just saying, you know,

504
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 1: these influencers give us all access pass into their life. Okay,

505
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 1: here here's what I'm saying. I'm going to say, do

506
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 1: you know who's not a couple of goals? That is

507
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 1: a celebrity couple? Remember Ron running from the Jersey Shore?

508
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 1: They actually his girlfriend actually posted instant stories of them

509
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 1: brawling online. Did you guys see that? I refreshing. I'm

510
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 1: not after people brawling, but I'm just saying, if you're

511
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 1: going to be if you're going to be posting constant,

512
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 1: bomittrocious photos of yourself, I'm not saying that I want

513
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,719
Speaker 1: to see people publicly fighting. I'm just saying that I

514
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 1: feel like, if you're sharing everything about your life, you

515
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 1: should be sharing the highs and lows. I think says

516
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 1: he does do it quite well, where she says, you know,

517
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 1: Kurt and I are struggling to find time with each other.

518
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: But the other thing that pieces me off is when

519
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 1: these couples break up and we never get to hear

520
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 1: why like and feel like saying we've heard everything. Why

521
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 1: don't we hear the juicy stuff of why? So talking

522
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 1: about gross couple pictures, these up people aren't even in

523
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 1: sta famous. They're on my feed for some unfortunate reason.

524
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: And one of the posts that caught my eye was

525
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,159
Speaker 1: he wrote in the caption licked it, so it's mine.

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00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 1: That's really funny is that his tongue. Yes, I can't

527
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: even make out what's what? That is so foul. I

528
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 1: actually have someone I equally enjoy hate following as much

529
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 1: as that. There's a girl who she just had some

530
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 1: new boyfriend and then all of a sudden, these are

531
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 1: the hashtags that she used on every photo. Hashtag you

532
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 1: look like the rest of my life, hashtag mine, hashtag

533
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 1: one day I'll marry you, hashtag my will wait? So

534
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,439
Speaker 1: how long have these people been going out for a

535
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 1: handful of months? Oh my gosh, I think that should

536
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 1: be hashtag back off. So moving on to the headlines

537
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 1: of the week, and the first one is from l

538
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 1: Australia and it reads Evan Rachel Woods calls out Paris

539
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 1: Hilton for her comments on Millie Bobby Brown's Instagram.

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00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 2: So.

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00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 1: I don't know about you guys, but I wasn't really

542
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 1: sure who Milly Bobby Brown was. I heard about her

543
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: in a few podcasts. She's a fifteen year old star

544
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 1: of Stranger Things. She looks about twenty five. It's pretty

545
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 1: ridiculous anyway. So she's posted a photo of herself wearing

546
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: a leopard print dress with the caption same dress but

547
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: very different day. Nothing too sus about it anyway. Paris

548
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 1: Hilton has gone on there and amongst the forty six

549
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,479
Speaker 1: thousand comments, she's written, that's hot. Some people might not remember,

550
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: but that's hot is her catchphrase from the Simple Life.

551
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 1: So Evan Woods has actually gone on there and divided

552
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 1: fans by commenting back to Paris Hilton and saying she's fifteen. Now.

553
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 1: Some people were saying, like, look, she's actually just using

554
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: her catchphrase, and others were saying, well, let's be mindful

555
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 1: about the language when we're talking about children. This one

556
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: had me. I kind of thought, well, that's her catchphrase, Like,

557
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 1: who cares that she said that's hot? I personally think

558
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:12,919
Speaker 1: that It would be quite different if it was a

559
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: man saying that's hot, because it's almost sexualizing her. But

560
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 1: I think Paris Hilton's saying that's hot as her catchphrase

561
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 1: is a very difference. Come on, it's bloody funny. So

562
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 1: the next headline is billionaire Kylie Jenner threatens Gold Coast

563
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: business over Rise and Shine trademark. So what's happened here

564
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: is Kylie Jenner has sent a cease and desist letter

565
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: to a small Gold Coast manufacturer for selling a T

566
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,239
Speaker 1: shirt that says rise and Shine on it. Like some

567
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: of you guys might remember that the catchphrase was made

568
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 1: famous when she did her YouTube office to her she

569
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: sung rise and Shine to storm and it's just gone nuts.

570
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: This thing is, this is absolutely ludicrous. This woman had

571
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: the shirts before the Kylie Jenner moment, Like what she's

572
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: supposed to do just destroy everything because Kylie Jenner has

573
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: now copyrighted that term. Yeah, well that ludicrous. That's exactly

574
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: what happened. The shirts were made twelve months ago and

575
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: Kylie's gone and trademarked the name Rise and Shine. So

576
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: she said that, look, you can't sell them anymore. And

577
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: this business is run by a mother who doesn't really

578
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: have enough money to fight the billionaire. It's quite funny.

579
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 1: It's not the first phrase she's trademark. She actually tried

580
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: to trademark the name Kylie and Kylie Minogue actually hid

581
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: out and that's how that's the reason why it actually

582
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: didn't occur. The funniest thing though, did anyone actually see

583
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: the T shirts? Because they're almost hideous t shirts, these

584
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 1: fluo just awful T shirts. And apparently there were only

585
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: about ten left that she had to sell. She wasn't

586
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: planning on selling any more of them. I'll be interested

587
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: in how many of these shirts of nelsol because of

588
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: the notoriety. Well, they can't be because she's sent this

589
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: legal letter. They're not selling them anymore. But it's just

590
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: it's quite funny because I wonder how she even heard

591
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: about the T shirts. Did she go looking online? It

592
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: wouldn't be her to be all bloody management. Well, the

593
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: woman in question, who preferred not to be name, actually

594
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: said that she just assumes that one of her legal

595
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 1: team did a broad search of the term and of

596
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: just hitting up all these businesses. It's pretty disappointing. I think,

597
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 1: come on, like she's got she's the world's youngest billionaire

598
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,479
Speaker 1: self made billionaire. Apparently, it's just come on, stop being

599
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: so greedy. What's she going to do? A Mom's like

600
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: reds shed and then she's like, your suit, you can't

601
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 1: use it. And the final headline is look away, Angie.

602
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 1: The Bachelorette's Kieran flaunts his sprawling tattoos and ripped for

603
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 1: Zeke as he soaks up the sun in Sydney with

604
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: a bikini clad mystery woman. And that headline is from

605
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 1: the Daily Mail, of course. So if it wasn't heartbreaking

606
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: enough for viewers that Kieran left The Bachelorette last week,

607
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: he's now been spotted with a blonde woman out on

608
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: the beach. The photos were quite hilarious. He's got all

609
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: his tattoos and there's this sort of blonde lady wearing

610
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: a g string. As always, the Daily Mails use some

611
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: hilarious terms referring to Kieran as an adonis. It's just

612
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: so stupid. Well, I actually read an article today saying

613
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: it was labored, oh, Angie and Kieren together, and it

614
00:30:59,920 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: was I'm saying that apparently they're together because he off.

615
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: Hanley said, if Angie doesn't pick anyone he'd like to

616
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: go out with her. Now you can sell just about

617
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 1: anything online these days, thanks to Facebook, Marketplace, and gum Tree,

618
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: and with every man and his dog wanting to launch

619
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: their own side hustle, when just making some extra cash

620
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: go too far, Amy, can you tell us about the

621
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: latest side hustle that women are signing up for. Well,

622
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: it's been around for a while and I didn't actually

623
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 1: realize that it's been promoted as well, well, not promoted

624
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: but mentioned on Orange is the New Black. So women

625
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: and continuing to sell their underpants online. And you know,

626
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: there's been lots of stories about women being sugar babies

627
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: and this and that. But the latest side hustle is

628
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: logging on online selling your underpants to absolute weirdos. So

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00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: there's been a number of websites that have popped up,

630
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: and some of their names just absolutely crashed me up.

631
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: There's Panty Trust, sell your panties, panty Deal, so you

632
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: go on. How they come up with these names so clever.

633
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: So basically go online and you can create a profile

634
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: and start selling your underpants. And one website, I think

635
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: it was Panti I was just thinking of another name,

636
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: Sniff and Scratch, maybe that's the next one. Well, so yeah,

637
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: you can go on. And the website claims that women

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00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: are earning up to two hundred dollars for a pair

639
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,959
Speaker 1: of underpans. I'm sorry, that's not even much money. You're

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Speaker 1: under caakes. But let's look at it this way. If

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Speaker 1: you're selling a pair of under a pair of underpantsh'bly

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Speaker 1: cost twenty dollars. Oh do they pay for the underpants?

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but if you if you you need

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Speaker 1: the cost value of the pantis themselves, I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 1: the widows would probably send them to I think they.

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Speaker 1: I think that's actually what they do. So if you

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Speaker 1: sold just one pair of underpants a week, you'd be

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Speaker 1: making ten four hundred. That's a bloody overseas trip just

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Speaker 1: for a pair of underpants. Well, well, for how many

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Speaker 1: if I sell, not that I'm interested, fifty two, so

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Speaker 1: one a week. You know what, after this podcast, i'mbly

652
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: gonna get requests throughound underpants. The reason I thought this

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Speaker 1: would be a funny topic to talk about that was

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Speaker 1: somehow it got brought up at a dinner I was

655
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Speaker 1: at and we were just all enthralled about this conversation.

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Speaker 1: And so you know, we were trying to google how

657
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Speaker 1: much you could actually get for the underpants, and I

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Speaker 1: saw the person the girl I was chatting to about

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Speaker 1: it later in the week, and she done a little

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Speaker 1: bit of investigating further into it, and she said that

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Speaker 1: it's actually the market is just so saturated, for want

662
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Speaker 1: of a better word, with people wanting to sell their underpants.

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Speaker 1: I think that people aren't making as much money as

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Speaker 1: they once did. Look, I'm gonna put it out there

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Speaker 1: for any creeps listening. I feel like triplet underpants would

666
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Speaker 1: go to hive at a high value. It's funny if

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Speaker 1: this topic has come up now, because I remember about

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Speaker 1: ten years ago when we were in Malaysia, one of

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Speaker 1: the guys at the markets was telling us about how

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Speaker 1: there was a woman that was visiting and had sold

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Speaker 1: her underpants for a huge amount of money. I think

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Speaker 1: it was like a thousand dollars or something, and she

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Speaker 1: had been requested to wear the underpants for over a

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Speaker 1: week every day, so they smelt more. I mean, how disgusting. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's funny you mentioned that because it did say on

676
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Speaker 1: the website that the most bias actually want the women

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Speaker 1: to wear the underpants for at least one to three

678
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Speaker 1: days so, and it was quite funny. I read this

679
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Speaker 1: article about it and this woman who I think she does?

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Speaker 1: I think she I don't know if she's a prostitute

681
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 1: as well, but she makes her living through but she

682
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: gets she sells underpants, you're living as well. And she

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Speaker 1: actually said that some people will try and get away with,

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Speaker 1: you know, making up smells that might smell similar to

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Speaker 1: what the underpants. Anyway, she was saying that some people

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Speaker 1: will try and trick the men that are buying the underpants,

687
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Speaker 1: but she said they're almost like these connoisseurs of underpants,

688
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Speaker 1: and they can they know if that underpants hasn't been

689
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Speaker 1: worn for three days or so. I remember recently seeing

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Speaker 1: a story on Instagram from Steph Claire Smith where she

691
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Speaker 1: was talking about this creepy encounter she had. So her

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Speaker 1: boyfriend's little sister was selling some of Steph's old clothes

693
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Speaker 1: at a market, and because she obviously gets gifted a

694
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Speaker 1: lot of stuff, she was selling all these old bikinis

695
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Speaker 1: and she hadn't worn an any of them. Anyway, this

696
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: creep turned up and said to the sister, Oh, next

697
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Speaker 1: time you come, can you bring some that she's worn

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Speaker 1: and step gwas Smith was just so freaked out. But

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Speaker 1: I feel like celebrities get a lot of weird requests

700
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 1: like that, Like I've heard a lot of them saying

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Speaker 1: that they get asked to send photos of their toes. Well.

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00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,959
Speaker 1: I was actually looking into this a little bit further

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Speaker 1: about people selling their underpants and other things people were selling,

704
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Speaker 1: and it turns out that some people actually selling their disgusting,

705
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: smelly old socks online songs. Oh my god, I'd sell

706
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: I'd sell songs. I think we've got two bad fums

707
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: out there. If anyone would like any socks, could they

708
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: please contact that? So I think I think what happened

709
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,240
Speaker 1: is this woman actually she seld some old socks online

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00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: and someone said are they clean or are they just?

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00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 2: Like?

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00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: What are they more? If they're dirty? Asume? Was there

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Speaker 1: a thing? Have I dreamt this? Or was there a

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00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: thing where people were selling belly button lint? I don't

715
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: know about that. That's even belly button lint of the

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Speaker 1: supermoder So just putting it out there, what would you

717
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: guys sell if you had to say else something I

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00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: wouldn't sell, So you wouldn't sell your socks? Yeah? But

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00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 1: not if someone's like it's some sick fetish. I think.

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Speaker 1: I think it depends if you're photographed and they know

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00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: who they're coming from. I think if they were going

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00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 1: through like a middleman and they were just passing on

723
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Speaker 1: the socks, if it was anonymous, I probably would sell

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Speaker 1: my underpants if it was anymore, or I wouldn't want

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00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: someone having a wang over your underpant. Care Well, I

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Speaker 1: looked into it, as I said. As I said, I

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00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: looked into a bit further. And there's lots of other

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Speaker 1: things that people are doing other than the underpants and

729
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: the socks. So apparently some people are making a side

730
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Speaker 1: hustle by cake sitting. And when I read this, I

731
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: didn't realize what cake sitting was. So apparently sit on

732
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: a cake, yeah, so apparently some Yeah, so apparently some

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Speaker 1: people make videos of themselves that they film themselves sitting

734
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Speaker 1: on a cake because apparently that's some kind of fe

735
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 1: or is it like bear bumed or something. It's not

736
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 1: necessarily bear bummed. It might be and you know, I

737
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 1: don't know, a pair of bases or something. The other

738
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: one was eating in front of the camera. So people

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Speaker 1: will watch people not just in book bunks, but all

740
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: of that kind of stuff. But I did read there

741
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 1: was an even darker side to this all. So there

742
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Speaker 1: was a There was a Sydney I think she was

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Speaker 1: a Sydney mum who came out I think was in

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Speaker 1: Mum and mea and she said that she just put

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Speaker 1: up her her five year old daughter's school dress and

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Speaker 1: stockings because she was like, oh, I don't need it,

747
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Speaker 1: maybe there'll be someone in the community. And she was

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Speaker 1: selling it for about five dollars or something, and she

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Speaker 1: got contacted by this strange man. He was like, has

750
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: it been warned? Is the wear and tear in the

751
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: and all this stuff. She's like, She's like sorry, what

752
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: that is? And the message just got weirder and weirder

753
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: and she was like what the hell? So she just

754
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: deleted it. She had to throw it in the bin

755
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 1: because somebody's getting it was Yeah, it was really sick. Probably.

756
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,240
Speaker 1: There was some guy doing the rounds I was asking

757
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,240
Speaker 1: for like jackets with zippers. He had a zipper fetish

758
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: and he kept asking if the zip smelled. Well. There

759
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,760
Speaker 1: was a weird one, a whole box of old clothes.

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00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 1: There was a weird one recently doing the rounds. I

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00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 1: saw Olivia Rodgers share and inst the story where I'm

762
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 1: not sure if it was a joke, but a man

763
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: said he'd pay her to kick him in the balls,

764
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,280
Speaker 1: And then I think Tully Smythe got the same message

765
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Speaker 1: as well. Okay, would you do that if someone's not

766
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Speaker 1: a million dollars not to be near that sort of person,

767
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 1: would you have like could someone be there with you?

768
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Speaker 1: Or okay, let's let's put this in perspective. They're clearly

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Speaker 1: getting some sexual rush and kicking the box. You're not

770
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Speaker 1: really involve you're kicking them. The only time I would

771
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 1: do it is if it was for charity or something,

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Speaker 1: if they were like, Okay, we're going to give a

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00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: million dollars to the count account. I'm sorry if you

774
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,879
Speaker 1: were telling me that if someone said that you could

775
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 1: kick him in the balls and get a million dollars,

776
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: you wouldn't do that. I call ball not in an

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00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 1: area or it's just me and them, like you know what,

778
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to see them have to be like

779
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 1: this wood at this wall and then a glory like

780
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: hole that you could just care. But I'm not trying

781
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 1: to be disgusting. But people's photos are out there on

782
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Speaker 1: the internet, so people could be doing whatever they.

783
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 2: Like with your but you're not having to be near them. Yeah,

784
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 2: but who cares like touching them? One minus work for what?

785
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 2: It's not like you know, I have more self respect?

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00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 1: Can you? Can you imagine the interaction because last week

787
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Speaker 1: I was talking about the awkward Facebook marketplace interaction, Hey

788
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 1: have the exchange of goods? Can I sine rocking up

789
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: for something like hell, yes, I'm here to kick you

790
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: in the well? I think that's probably enough on the topic.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening to us and joining

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Speaker 1: us once again. We would absolutely love it if you

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Speaker 1: instat stories at the moment. They're absolutely making my day

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Speaker 1: to see. I'd like to see more. And on Thursday,

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Speaker 1: on the show and she talks everything from her successful

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Speaker 1: side hustle, how to make your career as an elite

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Speaker 1: everyone who has got through this mammoth episode where we

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Speaker 1: have gone from talking about Chappelle Corby to selling dirty

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Speaker 1: underpants online. It has been quite a ride. This a

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Speaker 1: turn for everybody.