1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,240 Speaker 1: Let's get right into it. Joining us on the line 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: right now is the Health Minister Natasha Files. 3 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 2: Good morning from morning Katy, good morning. 4 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: Listen it now, Minister. Firstly, let's get an update on 5 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: the air. A few of games. It's been canceled, well 6 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: for the next next round at least you decided to 7 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: pull the pin given the fact that there's so much 8 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: uncertainty at this point. 9 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 2: Oh, Katie, For me, it's incredibly disappointing. I was able 10 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 2: to compete as a teenager, I helped manage sports and 11 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 2: was really proud to be the Minister for the Games 12 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,279 Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen, so it's incredibly disappointing. But in light 13 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 2: of the continuing uncertainty around the COVID nineteen pandemic, we 14 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 2: have made a decision that the games won't go ahead. 15 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 2: And Katie, this is intended into the future, not just 16 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 2: the twenty twenty three We'd already deferred the twenty twenty 17 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 2: one game. And the basis of the games is so 18 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 2: much work, particularly with our near neighbors in Southeast Asia, 19 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 2: and that just can't be undertaken in a way that 20 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 2: it used to be. And even going forward, I think 21 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 2: there'll be changes around that so incredibly disappointing, and we'd 22 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 2: just like to thank everyone that's been involved in the games. 23 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 2: I've been trying to contact some of those key people 24 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 2: this morning, and particularly all those sport organizers and the 25 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 2: sports that put so much energy into the games. 26 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 1: So no games for twenty twenty three, I mean, does 27 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 1: this really spell the end of the ARA? A few 28 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: are games? So are you still confident that at some 29 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: point you might be able to bring them back? 30 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 2: No, Katie, for me, this spells the end of the 31 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 2: ARA if you're are games in the sense that we 32 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 2: just don't know as we move hopefully into a post 33 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 2: COVID space, what travel will be like. The are a 34 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 2: few are games? As I was just saying, we do 35 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 2: so much work with our Southeast Asian neighbors and we're 36 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 2: going to have to find a different way to do that. 37 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 2: So these large multi event sports, I don't see that 38 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 2: that you know for us the ARA, if you're a game, 39 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 2: we just felt that with COVID and it's continuing impact, 40 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 2: it just wasn't possible to deliver the games in the 41 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 2: way that we wish for them to be. A six there. 42 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: I mean, there are a lot of people that didn't 43 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: feel that it was economically viable or that it was 44 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: a good thing really for the economy. We know that 45 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: there was certainly a lot of goodness that came out 46 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 1: of it when it comes to sport and the development 47 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 1: of sport around the territory. But is COVID really just 48 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 1: a bit of an excuse here that realistically it wasn't 49 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: going to be economically viable to return Regardless. 50 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 2: To Katie, we did work and there was a strong 51 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 2: economic return on the investment made. It also helped us 52 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 2: build our relationships. But with COVID and the overlay of 53 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 2: COVID that we're going to have, you know, into the future, 54 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 2: even when we're fascinated and we're traveling internationally, it's going 55 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,119 Speaker 2: to be a different way in which we deliver things. 56 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 2: But I'm very much committed to events. I believe that 57 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 2: events do bring tourism and they also provide opportunities for 58 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 2: locals and particularly sporting events. But there's the future of 59 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 2: there a few of games in the way that they were, 60 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 2: we just don't see it as feasible going forward. 61 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: Okay, Minister, I do want to ask about just moving 62 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: forward in terms of COVID. The situation in New South 63 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: Wales Regional New South Wales at this point is it 64 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: going to be declared a hot spot. 65 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 2: So we had a meeting of SEMSE and our Chief 66 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 2: Holes Officer and I just like to acknowledge how hard 67 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 2: the health team are working. They worked through the weekends. 68 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 2: They provided us with a briefing yesterday. We haven't added 69 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 2: Regional New South Wales, but we do wurge Territorius. If 70 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 2: you are in Regional New South Wales, now is the 71 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 2: time to come home. We've seen yesterday one hundred and 72 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 2: twelve new cases in Greater Sydney, but the show has 73 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 2: not declared Regional New South Wales a hotspot, and that's 74 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 2: based on the fact that there isn't any cases in 75 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 2: regional exposure sites and the wastewater signals in Regional New 76 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 2: South Wales have been negative to date, but they're watching 77 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 2: that very closely. 78 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: I do note that the governments sort of changed the 79 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: way that they're messaging with some of this stuff to 80 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: do with COVID, particularly in other states where we are 81 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: seeing increased numbers. Like we've just heard you say there, 82 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: if you are a territorium that is interstate in Regional 83 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: New South Wales look at coming back? Are you changing 84 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: that tact in an effort to sort of give people 85 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: a bit more time to get home rather than them 86 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: sort of getting on a plane and finding out while 87 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: they're up in the air or getting literally on that 88 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: plane or getting off that they're going to have to 89 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: go into quarantine. 90 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 2: So, Katie, the new delta variant has added another layer 91 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 2: of complexity to coronavirus and so for us, things have 92 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 2: to move very quickly with this delta variant. So we 93 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 2: want people to clearly understand that there is a significant 94 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 2: situation in Sydney Metropolitan and that we're watching those regional 95 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 2: areas very closely, and that if we have to call it, 96 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 2: we won't hesitate to make that decision quickly. We're also 97 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 2: watching Victoria. There's been three locally acquired cases in Victoria. 98 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 2: So the show will again today get information from HPBC 99 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 2: and Victoria so that we can make those decisions to 100 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 2: keep territory in. 101 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: Day Minister, one of the questions that we continually get 102 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: asked here at the station is when is there going 103 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 1: to be more vaccine appointments available? 104 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 2: So Katie, I've been working with the Department of Helston 105 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 2: I'm hopeful that by the end of this week we 106 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 2: can announce more appointments. We've seen the information come through 107 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 2: on our predicted plugs from the Commonwealth, and the department's 108 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 2: been doing the modeling and working to make sure that 109 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 2: we allocate those appointments as well as the second vaccinations, 110 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 2: and so we did. As you know, and I've spoken 111 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 2: to you, we put those appointments up just a week 112 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 2: or so ago. But we're hopeful by the end of 113 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 2: the week there'll be more appointments and we'll certainly let 114 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 2: territorians know we're also working on a longer term plan. 115 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 2: The Commonwealth have been able to provide more certainty around 116 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 2: their projected number of vaccines coming into Australia, which can 117 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 2: help us in our planning. 118 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: Okay, But so by the end of the week, hopefully 119 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: there will be more appointments available for territorians. 120 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 2: I'm hopeful that we'll have those appointments loaded. As I explained, 121 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 2: we did put up nearly two thousand appointments just a 122 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 2: week or so ago, but we did have to allocate 123 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 2: a number to people that were booked in that fifty 124 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 2: to fifty nine age group for Astra Zenica that needed 125 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 2: to go across to father, so I know that plenty 126 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,119 Speaker 2: of people are still getting vaccinated. It's great to see 127 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 2: on social media, particularly people sharing that they're vaccinated, because 128 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 2: that is the message. We only need to roll up 129 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 2: our fleeve or arm ourselves. As a Commonwealth governor, saying. 130 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: Kinnister, we have received a few emails over the course 131 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 1: of the weekend about our church here in Darwin discouraging 132 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: people from wearing masks and also discouraging people from being vaccinated. 133 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: Is this something that you've been made aware of. 134 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 2: Yes, Katie, it is concerning The commonly used language is 135 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 2: anti vaxes, anti vaxx message. The vaccination is our key 136 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 2: to stepping forward out of this pandemic situation. It will 137 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 2: protect us, that will protect our loved ones. And so 138 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 2: we are working closely, Katie, and we're making sure that 139 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 2: we're pivoting our messaging to targeting different groups who might 140 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 2: be anxious. I can understand the vaccine was developed very quickly, 141 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 2: but it's still been through the robust processes and it 142 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 2: is safe. I'm vaccinated, my parents have had their vaccination. 143 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 2: So we need people to understand that the vaccination, you 144 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 2: can still become ill. With COVID nineteen, but you won't 145 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 2: become as catastrophically ill as what we're seeing, particularly in 146 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 2: New South Wales, numbers climbing every day and people ending 147 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 2: up in hospital and intensive care. 148 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: Now, yesterday, you know, we saw a situation where the 149 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: NRL is to is having to investigate the NRL here 150 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: in the territory is having to investigate one of the 151 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: football clubs that allegedly broke some of the rules and 152 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: restrictions that were in place when we were in lockdown 153 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: and when we had those restrictions that were still needing 154 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: to be adhered to. There are claims that are being 155 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: sent to me at the moment that not only did 156 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: we have a situation where the church here in Darwin, 157 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: one of these churches was discouraging people from getting the vaccine, 158 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: but they were being discouraged to wear those masks during 159 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: that period of time when it was something that we 160 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: were all supposed to be doing. Is that something that 161 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: the police are investigating. 162 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 2: To Katie, I'm not aware if there's a specific police 163 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 2: investigation into that matter, but police do put in place 164 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 2: the enforcement. They can review evidence, photographs for example, and 165 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 2: go back and there is significant fines and we saw 166 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 2: that last week with a local business who didn't want 167 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 2: to adhere to the rules. We try the educative approach, 168 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 2: but if that doesn't work, police won't hesitate to step 169 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 2: in and find individuals or businesses or community groups that 170 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 2: are doing the wrong things. 171 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: All right, The Chief Minister yesterday confirmed at a press 172 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: conference that those numbers aren't where we'd anticipated. When it 173 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: comes to those international repatriation flights, are flights arriving in 174 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: Darwin at the moment that are full or are they 175 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: half full? What's ago with these international flights? 176 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 2: So, Katie, we're seeing a regular arrival of international appatriation flights. 177 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 2: The depat Commonwealth Government organize the individuals for those flights, 178 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 2: but we do certainly see in some cases where those 179 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 2: flights aren't full. So we did with the India fights 180 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 2: spertifically specifically have a reduction because we had seen those 181 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 2: high rates of COVID. They have listed those numbers, but 182 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 2: people are tested in the periods leading up to the flight, 183 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 2: and so that could be a reason why people aren't 184 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 2: allowed to travel at the last minute and then so 185 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 2: there is logistics of people getting to those destinations. But 186 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 2: Jifat are working through. We've seen a tranch of flights 187 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 2: come out of London Frankfort, Paris for example. DEFAT are 188 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 2: now looking at other locations where Australians may be stranded, 189 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 2: and it's very difficult for them to get from a 190 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 2: specific location to where those flights are leaving from. So 191 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 2: can we take those flights closer to them? But yes, 192 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 2: you do see the flights not always full. 193 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: Are those flights going through the international Airport? 194 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 2: Yes? 195 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: Are they still going through the. 196 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 2: RAF part, Katie, My understanding is they're still going through 197 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 2: the wrath side. We are aiming to take them through 198 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 2: the Darwen International Airport terminal, but there has to be 199 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 2: those rectifications and we also need that signed off by 200 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 2: Health before we take them through and make that change. 201 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: So when are you anticipating that will be My understanding, Katie, 202 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 1: is a couple of weeks ago. 203 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 2: They had said about six to eight weeks. So I'm 204 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 2: happy to get some more specific information, but I can 205 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 2: assure the community that there was a number of health 206 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 2: reciplications that needed to be made and we won't be 207 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 2: making that change until we've been fully audited. That it 208 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 2: stays to shift that across. 209 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: All right, minister onto an issue which just isn't going 210 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: away the grandstand. We know the opposition leader Leofanocchiaro was 211 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,719 Speaker 1: on the show yesterday and said Michael Gunner has repeatedly 212 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: stated that he is the chair of Cabinet and he 213 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 1: takes responsibility. She reckons these words are hollow garbage and 214 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,959 Speaker 1: that he's not taking responsibility, that he's hiding behind cabinet 215 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: confidentiality to avoid taking responsibility for this dodgy deal. She 216 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: goes on to say, it's not only implausible that he 217 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: didn't know that the proper cabinet process hadn't applied, it's 218 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: downright impossible he didn't know on the information I have 219 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,319 Speaker 1: before me. Now. She goes on to say that if 220 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: Michael Gunner disagrees with IKAC and claims that the proper 221 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: cabinet process was followed, no one's going to believe him. 222 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: She reckons that he needs to release the try Treasury analysis, 223 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 1: including the time and date that each department was given 224 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: an opportunity to provide comment on the cabinet submission and 225 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: what their response was. Is the government going to release 226 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 1: the Treasury analysis? 227 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 2: To Katie, we've seen an investigation and the icac's main recommendations. 228 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 2: There was no finding against the government or any minister. 229 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: But they couldn't look into that cabinet decision, like they 230 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: couldn't look into what had happened when it comes to 231 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: the cabinet making that decision. So you've got to admit 232 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: that there is a huge chunk that's missing here. 233 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 2: So, Katie, a capital grant was awarded. Is not uncommon 234 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,439 Speaker 2: for capital grants to be awarded for infrastructure projects, to 235 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 2: community groups, to supporting organizations in the territory. But we 236 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 2: acknowledged at the time nearly two years ago, that the 237 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 2: process didn't meet the expectations of public had of us, 238 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 2: and we've began implementing a range of changes. There's also 239 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 2: recommendations from the ICAC that we're working to implement. 240 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: So why not why not release the treasury analysis? 241 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 2: So, Katie, the ICAC made no finding against the government 242 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 2: or any minister. So I think that you know their 243 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 2: hollow words coming from the CLP who refused to put 244 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:07,719 Speaker 2: in place in I caack it took a labor government. 245 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: People like, can't you see them? I mean, at the 246 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: end of the day, they may well have done that, 247 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,839 Speaker 1: but right now you guys are in a situation where 248 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: I've got to tell you most of the community doesn't 249 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:21,079 Speaker 1: actually believe that the Chief Minister knew nothing about it. 250 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 1: So wouldn't it actually be a wise thing to do 251 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: to release that Treasury analysis and you know, make it 252 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 1: all nice and clear, so the community's got a fair 253 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: idea of exactly what's gone on. 254 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 2: To Katie, there has been a thorough investigation by the KAK. 255 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 2: They made no finding against the government or the minister, 256 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 2: and we're waiting to implement the recommendations was agreed in 257 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 2: principle to support that the attack have made all right. 258 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: On Friday we learned the Turf Club will spill the 259 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: board on August nine. I believe an interim chair is 260 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: in place. Does this go far enough for you as 261 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 1: the Racing Minister. 262 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,439 Speaker 2: We need those Turf Club board members to resign now 263 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 2: so that we can have confidence that these measures will 264 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 2: be put in place immediately, and that we can have 265 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 2: confidence in the Churf Club the racing industry. We spoke 266 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 2: about this on Friday, Katie. You know there is really 267 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 2: good people involved in the industry and the Churf Club 268 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 2: board members all need to resign so that we can 269 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 2: have confidence going forward. 270 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: So as we know two existing board members mister Dale Baccino, 271 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: who I believe was not on the board when the 272 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: decision around the grandstand was made, but mister Damian Moriarty, 273 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: they are going to be staying on the board. Mister 274 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: O'Sullivan said it was necessary to have a core functioning 275 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: board leading up to the August nine Special General Meeting 276 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: and through to the Darwin Cup Carnival. As I said, 277 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: my understanding is that mister Bacino wasn't on the board 278 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: when that development process happened, but Damian Moriarty will remain 279 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 1: on the board despite a finding of improper conduct by 280 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: the IKAK. Do you think that it's appropriate for mister 281 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: Moriarty to stay on the board taking that into account. 282 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 2: No, So, Katie, we've made it quite clear our expectations. 283 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 2: We are recovering the twelve minus dollars from the Turf 284 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 2: Club we were lied to we when the Department of 285 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 2: Business went in and asked questions, and we need the 286 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 2: resignation of the entire board so that we can move 287 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 2: forward from this situation. 288 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: Now the Chief Minister has said that he'd changed that legislation. 289 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,559 Speaker 1: If the board didn't resigned resigned. Do you think that 290 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: that now needs to happen when Parliament sits again. 291 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 2: So Katie, we haven't ruled that out. We still have 292 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 2: a few weeks ahead of the August sittings. We need 293 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 2: all members of the Dolen Turf Club board to resign. 294 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: So at this point, what you're saying, by the sounds 295 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: of it pretty clearly is that you reckon those other 296 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: two need to resign as well. 297 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 2: Yes, Katie, we've given in principal support for the eighteen 298 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 2: recommendations from the KA, noting that some are already being implemented. 299 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 2: We are taking steps to recover that twelve million dollars 300 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 2: and we need every board member to resign from the 301 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 2: Down Turf Club board. 302 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: So at this point in time, I know that you 303 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: had told me last week that you would be waiting 304 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: to see what the Turf Club, what decisions were made 305 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: around the board as to whether you would be attending 306 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: any Dar and Cup carnival events. Are you going to 307 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: be attending any of them based on the announcement that 308 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: was made on Friday? 309 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 2: So, Katie, there is, as I said, so many people 310 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 2: in racing that need support, and as a Minister for racing. 311 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 2: I want to get out there and support them, but 312 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 2: I can't in good faith. While there is current Turf 313 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 2: Club members who haven't resigned attend those events, so I'm 314 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 2: hoping that they will resign and then we can all 315 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 2: start to move forward. 316 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: Is there one of those parliamentary receptions that usually happens 317 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: for the dough and Cup carnival? Is that happening this. 318 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 2: Year, Katie, I'm not aware of that detail. I'm happy 319 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 2: to chase that up. 320 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I'd be interested. I would have thought that 321 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: if there was one happening that you, as the Racing Minister, 322 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: would be invited or aware of it. 323 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 2: I think it's typically been hosted by the Chief Minister 324 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 2: and that's going right back to Paul Henders, them, Adam Gilds, etc. 325 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 2: But I'd be happy to chase that up for you. 326 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: All right, Minister, we are going to leave it there. 327 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: Always appreciate your time. Thanks, thanks so much for having 328 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: a chat with us. 329 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 2: Thanks Katie. 330 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: That is the Minister for Health. There also the Minister 331 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: for Racing, Gaming and Licensing and major events and plenty 332 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: of other things.