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Speaker 1: Jersey and Amanda jam Nation.

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Speaker 2: You put together your poems from when you were thirteen

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Speaker 2: years of age.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I've got a book filled with them. And as

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Speaker 1: you could see in those tortured poems, I was quite

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Speaker 1: obsessed with rhyming. I'm not one of those poets who

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Speaker 1: goes off piece. Everything had to rhyme. And it's interesting

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Speaker 1: because if a rhyme doesn't work, it can really be annoying.

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Speaker 1: Harley said. On the weekend, We're listening to a playlist

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Speaker 1: that involved a very famous song by Billy Joel, and

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Speaker 1: Harley said, this Uptown Girl. That's it. Harley said, there's

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Speaker 1: one line in here that's always irritated him because it

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Speaker 1: sounds like he's deliberately gone for the rhyme. You feel it.

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Speaker 1: Have a listen.

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Speaker 2: It's nine o'clock go on a Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Irregular crowd shuffles in. There's an old man sitting next

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Speaker 1: to me.

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Speaker 2: Megan Love to his tonic and.

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Speaker 1: Jem tonic and Gin. The expression is gin and tonic.

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Speaker 1: He said, tonic and gin for the obvious rhyme. Harley

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Speaker 1: was saying, couldn't he have said watered down Gin, nightly Gin,

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Speaker 1: life saving Gin? Something that doesn't remind you that he's

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Speaker 1: forcing a rhyme.

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Speaker 2: I do agree with Halley. I remember hearing that song

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Speaker 2: as a kid and thinking the same thing because Dad

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Speaker 2: liked the gin and tonic.

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Speaker 1: But no one drinks a tonic and gin.

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Speaker 2: No, But you're right for the sake of rhyming, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's got to be.

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Speaker 1: And the rest of it has rhymes. But you don't

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Speaker 1: feel that they're tortured like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, when you're writing a song, it

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Speaker 2: would be very, very difficult.

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Speaker 1: Well as a poet, I know that.

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Speaker 2: I know that, Yes, you have that burden. I always think,

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Speaker 2: you know Steph Nick. She does a song called walk

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Speaker 2: in the Room. There's a bit there and it sticks

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Speaker 2: in my crawl because she says there's magic all around

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Speaker 2: you if I do say so myself. But she's talking

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Speaker 2: about someone else.

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Speaker 1: So that it should be magical around me.

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Speaker 2: If I do say s this song.

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Speaker 1: It makes no sense to me now you think of it.

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Speaker 1: She may be a poet laureate.

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Speaker 2: No, or I'll give you another one Van Halen. What

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Speaker 2: about this? Only time will tell if we can stand

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Speaker 2: the test of time. Oh, that's a lazy pole in

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Speaker 2: the song Wake Out This belove.

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Speaker 1: I put it to you. You're the only one that

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Speaker 1: ever listened to the lyrics of that song.

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Speaker 2: Just fill in the space here.

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Speaker 1: As a poet, I know that that's lazy, lazy, lazy.

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Speaker 2: Big guitar song. Or what about this one? Factually at

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Speaker 2: rhymes it sounds great but historically incorrect, red gums, I

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Speaker 2: was only nineteen.

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Speaker 1: Frankie kick the mind the day that mankind kicked the moon, God.

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Speaker 2: Help me, he was going home in June. Good rhyme,

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Speaker 2: Well and good if man hadn't landed on the moon

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Speaker 2: in July. Ah, So when Frankie blew up man was would.

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Speaker 1: The rhyme have been? It could have been.

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Speaker 2: Frankie kicked the mine the day man can kind and

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Speaker 2: kick the moon?

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Speaker 1: Ly Yeah, no, he almost lost an eye, God help us.

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Speaker 1: He was going home in July. See ask me. I'm

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Speaker 1: a poet.

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Speaker 2: Maybe we should get John Schumann on the line, poet,

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Speaker 2: poet LORI keyed here.

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Speaker 1: That's right. We'll get Billy Joel on the line. We'll

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Speaker 1: get anyone who needs to debate me.

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Speaker 2: Let's bring them all in