1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: Plenty of you are pretty concerned, certainly worrying or wondering 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: about how many COVID cases we've got the Northern Territory 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: at the moment, what the latest advice is from the 4 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: Chief Health Officer and joining us on the line to 5 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 1: tell us more is the Northern Territories Health Minister Natasha Files, 6 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 1: Good morning morning, we'll be morning listening, Minister. Can I 7 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 1: ask how many active COVID cases are there now in 8 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: the Northern Territory? On last count it was fifty three? 9 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: Has that number gone up since yesterday? 10 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 2: So Katie, it's still sitting at fifty three. But I 11 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 2: do expect to be briefed later on this morning by 12 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 2: the Center of the Disease Control who do that testing, 13 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 2: and as soon as we have the full confirmation of 14 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 2: more cases, we will provide that in a statement to 15 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 2: the community. We have a number of people at the 16 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 2: Howard Springs Facility close contacts, family members for example, who 17 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 2: are in isolation, and you know some of their loved 18 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 2: ones may have tested positive, so that number could rise. 19 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 2: But as soon as we have the information we'll share 20 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: it with the community. 21 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: Minister. We've got a message here from one of our 22 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: listeners that says good morning, Katie. My daughter works at 23 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 1: the Howard Springs quarantine facility. She said they received fifty 24 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 1: COVID positive cases coming from one flight on the weekend. 25 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: Are you able to ask the health minister about this? 26 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 2: So, Katie, the confirmed numbers in the Northern Church of 27 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 2: fifty three active cases. Forty eight of those are from 28 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 2: international orpatriation and one is an Austrange Defense Force member 29 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 2: and for a US marine. In terms of people arriving 30 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: and on flights they've tested at different periods, we do 31 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 2: see people initially test positive, but it turns out that 32 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 2: it's a residual case that they were infected some time ago, 33 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 2: but they still have a reading. And so these test 34 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 2: numbers are based off the CDC advice. They go through 35 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 2: a rigorous process and they are current infectious cases. 36 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: So was there fifty on one of those flights on 37 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: the weekend? 38 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 2: Not that that's not the advice I've got, Katie. We 39 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 2: certainly did see a number of cases off the New 40 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 2: Delhian Shannai flights they arrived last week, not on the weekend, 41 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 2: but not fifty off one plane. 42 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: Okay, but it does sound as though you are expecting 43 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: those numbers to go up today. 44 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 2: So Katie, we saw a significant increase on Saturday and 45 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 2: I spoke it to the media about that. We saw 46 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 2: smaller numbers Sunday and yesterday. But as soon as we 47 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 2: have those confirmed from the CDC, we will put out 48 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 2: that statement that the community knows. But these cases are 49 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 2: all in isolation. They're all in the red zone at 50 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 2: Howard Springs. 51 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: Minister, I mean, the possibility of halting these flights from 52 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: India is now on the national agenda. Do you think 53 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: that we need to halt those flights from India until 54 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: things calm down. 55 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 2: To Katie, we need to do whatever it takes to 56 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 2: keep our community safe. Howard Springs has repatriated close to 57 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 2: seven thousand people since that were set up, and we 58 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 2: all the way through and have put the Northern Territory 59 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 2: and top ends community safety first. So we'll work with 60 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 2: the Commonwealth Government. It's a really difficult situation because we've 61 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 2: got clearly it's almost a catastrophe in India with those 62 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 2: hundreds of thousands of cases each and every day. You know, 63 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 2: we just have to look at them through the media 64 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 2: and the news that what's happening over there and it's 65 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,839 Speaker 2: absolute tragic, but we need to get those vulnerable Australians home. 66 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 2: But our community safety will always come first. 67 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: I mean when you look at these numbers. I'm just 68 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: on the coronavirus website right now, one hundred and twelve 69 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: people have recovered in the Northern Territory from COVID. We've 70 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: got fifty three total active cases right now. I mean, 71 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: this is the highest number that we've had in the 72 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: territory at any one time, isn't. 73 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 2: It correct, Katie? And we have to the community safety 74 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 2: always comes first. But fifty three infected people, we know 75 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 2: that the majority of those, I think it's all but 76 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 2: two are at the Howard Springs Facility having you know, 77 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 2: mild clinical symptoms and they can be safely cared for there. 78 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 2: But two people Laren Roso in hospital. And so it's 79 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 2: not only the numbers coming through and the higher rate 80 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 2: of infectivity. So we're seeing one to two percent of 81 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 2: people infested off flights other than India. So the London 82 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 2: flight Frankset for example, but these India flights are showing 83 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 2: over fifteen percent of both people are infected. So we're 84 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 2: working with the Commonwealth kDa around how we can safely 85 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 2: get these people home with the safety of our community 86 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 2: coming first, but making sure that we don't put ourselves 87 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 2: at any risk. 88 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 1: I mean when you talk about this so on a 89 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 1: national stage. I did note that over the weekend on 90 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: the ABC's Insiders, for example, and I heard Tanya Plibasek, 91 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: one of the Shadow Ministers, speaking about Howard Springs and 92 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: everybody looking to Howard Springs at this point in time 93 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: as being the facility that we need to or you know, 94 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: we need to recreate in other locations, all the facility 95 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: that we really need to be relying on, as Ossie's 96 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: with some of these repatriation flights. But it really does 97 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: put us at a greater risk, doesn't it. 98 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 2: Okatie Howard brings through the physical design. It wasn't purpose built, 99 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:12,359 Speaker 2: but it pretty much serves that purpose is fantastic. But 100 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 2: it's also the clinical practices and the hard work of 101 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 2: all staff out there that have kept territory in safe. 102 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 2: But we're very closely monitoring this situation with these increased 103 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 2: numbers in people infected, and it's not just within that facility, 104 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 2: but the flow and a set if they were to 105 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 2: take severely ill and we have everything in hand. We're 106 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 2: managing it well and where I spoke to the Federal 107 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 2: Minister Greg Hunt yesterday and he's always put the Northern 108 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 2: Territory safety first. So to reassure territorians, we will manage 109 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 2: this in a very safe way. Putting you know, our 110 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 2: responsibilities of getting these vulnerable people home absolutely is at 111 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 2: the paramount, but at the same time we have to 112 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 2: care for our community. 113 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: On that note, then do you think that we do 114 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 1: need to hold these flights from India from coming into 115 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,039 Speaker 1: the Northern Territory at this point? 116 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 2: So Katie, National Cabinet had in depth conversations and I 117 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 2: know the Chief Minister and Prime Minister and the relative 118 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 2: departments have continued those conversations over the weekend. You know, 119 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 2: the Federal Health Minister was very upfront with me whatever 120 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 2: the Northern Territory needs to do to keep our community safe, 121 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 2: but we do need to have a pathway to get 122 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 2: these people home. And the manner in which OSMAT has 123 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 2: cared for people, we've got people out of Wuhan'd off 124 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 2: the Diamond Princess. You know, we're shown that we can 125 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 2: do it. So we'll keep working through that with the 126 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 2: federal authorities. But to reassure your listeners because I know 127 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 2: that you know as much as we all feel, we've 128 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 2: got an obligation to help people caught up overseas. Our 129 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 2: community safety and our way of life must come first, 130 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 2: and it does. 131 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: Minister. At a press conference on Saturday, you revealed an 132 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: additional PPE protocol breach had taken place following reports on 133 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 1: Friday that a staff member at Royal Dalen Hospital was 134 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: not wearing the full suite of protective gear. What has 135 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: happened here and are you concerned about about these breaches? 136 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 2: So, of course any breach of PPE is very concerning. 137 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 2: So PPA is a personal protective equipment and there is 138 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 2: a suite of measures that people wear gloves, masks, gowns, 139 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 2: space shields, goggles. And so a staff member reached the 140 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 2: PPEA protocol. They didn't have the full PP on kate. 141 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 2: It wasn't like they just washed into a room with nothing, 142 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 2: but a senior cline mission quickly identified that they needed 143 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 2: to have further equipment that's on and they didn't, and 144 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 2: so they are now in isolation at Howard Springs for 145 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 2: their safety and the broader safety of our community. And 146 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 2: there was an additional breach with a transportation and a 147 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 2: Saint John's employee was involved in that quickly identified. And 148 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 2: again they're in isolation at Howard Springs, So we have 149 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 2: strict protocols and there is testing, and there is training, 150 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 2: and there is auditing, and unfortunately, sometimes human behavior things 151 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 2: do go wrong. But in both situations it would quickly identify. 152 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: Well, and I guess that you know the reality is 153 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: in other states and territories, You're right, these things do 154 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: go wrong and unfortunately what we've seen as a result 155 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: in some cases is community transmission. Now I guess what 156 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: I'm keen to find out is with fifty three total 157 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: active cases in the territory, so the highest number of 158 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: cases that we've ever had at any one time out 159 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: there at Howard Springs, and then with these two breaches, 160 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: does it demonstrate how fragile the situation is in terms 161 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: of if there were to be a further breach out 162 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: there at Howard Springs as those numbers presumably grow. 163 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 2: Katie, as the Minister responsible, I have confidence in that 164 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 2: the protocols that are in place, and this highlights why 165 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 2: we must continually train and test and audit those people 166 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 2: working in quarantine facilities, whether they're from cleaners and staff 167 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 2: that are performing functions around the facility right through chi 168 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 2: senior nurses and doctors and clinicians. Because you know habits, 169 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 2: you do it every single day, but just one time 170 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 2: not quite getting it right. The strict procedures that are 171 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 2: in place and the processes around them ensure that we 172 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 2: keep the community safe and we will continue to uphold that. 173 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,199 Speaker 2: And that's why when we talk about the Howard Springs facility, 174 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 2: it's not just the physical infrastructure, it's the processes that 175 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 2: have been embedded into those processes around perpatriating a team. 176 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 1: You're right, You're right. It is certainly about those procedures. 177 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 1: And I did note that you spoke before as well 178 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 1: about the clinical safety, and you also spoke about the 179 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 1: wonderful work of the OZMAT team. Is when is that 180 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: transition going to be happening? Was that due to begin today, 181 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: the transition of the OZMAT Team or the National Critical 182 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 1: Care and Trauma Response Center no longer managing the international 183 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: side of things and nt Health taking over. 184 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 2: No, So the transition begins on May third. And when 185 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 2: the transition begins, it's a process in which we can 186 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 2: slowly these repatriation flights will eventually come under one banner 187 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 2: and it'll be a sustainable model going forward. But are 188 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 2: not simply leaving the facility on a certain day. They 189 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 2: have very much assured me that they will be there 190 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 2: until it is safe for them to be able to 191 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 2: exit the facility. But some of those people, Katie, that 192 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 2: have been there working under the os maat banner will 193 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 2: continue to work under this one model as we go forward. 194 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: So how many of those four hundred positions have now 195 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 1: been filled? I know that from early last week you'd 196 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: said seventy. Is there an update on those numbers. 197 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 2: I haven't formally issued an update around the recruitment, but 198 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 2: it is going well and I look forward to sharing 199 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 2: those numbers and senior positions with the community in the 200 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 2: coming day. 201 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: What are we waiting for in terms of sharing those numbers. 202 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 2: So there's a recruitment process and we have to respect 203 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 2: that the Public Service Employment Act and there has to 204 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 2: be some formality around it. So I was briefed yesterday 205 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 2: by the Department of Health and that is going well 206 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 2: and as soon as it's appropriate for me to release 207 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 2: those details, I will do. 208 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: So, okay, Minister, can I ask what's the latest advice 209 00:10:57,960 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: for Perth at this point. 210 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 2: Thanks Katie. So in terms of Perth, we did see 211 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 2: the Western Australian Government announced last night that they would 212 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 2: lift the lockdown for Perth and Peel Region, but they 213 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 2: still have a number of measures in place to keep 214 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 2: their community safe. Our Chief Health Officer will participate in 215 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 2: NHPPC today around lunchtime and then he will brief us 216 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 2: and we'll make a decision on our hot spots policy 217 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 2: and what's happened out of Perth. We have to be 218 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 2: very cautious and it was relieving to see that there 219 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:33,839 Speaker 2: was no case numbers yesterday out of Perth, but we'll 220 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 2: just keep that in place until we're absolutely sure it's 221 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 2: safe to remove it. 222 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 1: All right, so it is, but there is a possibility 223 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: that that could be lifted at lunchtime today, so. 224 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 2: The Chief Health Officer is looking at what the situation is. 225 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 2: There was still some work around contact tracing that was 226 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 2: being undertaken and finalized late yesterday's minderstanding the WA government 227 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,439 Speaker 2: is the lockdown, but they've still kept the number of 228 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 2: measures in place, such as wearing masks. So we just 229 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 2: want to keep the territory safe by being absolutely certain 230 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 2: before we remove that, all. 231 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: Right, Minister, I do want to ask you. I know 232 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,839 Speaker 1: that it's another issue. It's about a surgeon shortage. As 233 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 1: we know, you and I have discussed this before at 234 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 1: Royal Darwin Hospital, but it's again been raised by the 235 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 1: Australian Medical Association of the Northern Territory. They've spoken to 236 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 1: the paper and say that they're concerned about the pressure 237 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: it's put on staff and waiting lists blowing out. Where 238 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: is the recruitment app with these six surgeons? 239 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 2: So, Katie, the territory is home to some clinicians who 240 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 2: observe their entire professional career here in the territory and 241 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 2: we're very grateful for that, and others come and go. 242 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 2: So we have a focus on recruiting into the territory 243 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 2: and we want to retain that highly skilled workforce. We're 244 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 2: currently working with the Royal Australasian College of Surgeons to 245 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 2: recruit more surgeons and surgical nurses Katie to work in 246 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 2: the territory so that we can make sure we've got 247 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 2: that sustainable workforce going from. 248 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: So where are things at? Because again I say, you 249 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: and I spoke about this, I reckon a few weeks 250 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: ago and you've given a very similar answer. 251 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 2: So Katie, we're committed to expanding the capacity for surgery 252 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 2: across our hospital and so we've obviously got Royal Dalen Hospital, 253 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 2: but also Palmerston Hospital. We've got the ability to deliver 254 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 2: surgery out there and some surgery is taking place, but 255 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 2: we want to expand that. So we've got our clinical 256 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 2: services planned. But recruitment to those positions is important, and 257 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 2: we've been working with the college around ways in which 258 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 2: we can have an attractive pathway forward for them to 259 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 2: build their skills and stay in the territory. 260 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: So at this point we haven't filled any of those 261 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: six positions. 262 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 2: So Katie, I'm not sure of exactly which positions are 263 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 2: in aren't field, but we acknowledge that surgeons and surgical 264 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 2: nurses is an area of priority within the health workforce. 265 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: Quite a few messages coming through on the text line. 266 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: There's one here It says, Hi, Katie, stop these flights. 267 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: These people choose to live overseas. They were told to 268 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: come back, they chose not to. Now we're supposed to 269 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: bring them back. They're putting everyone at risk. Says that. Texter. 270 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: What's your response to that, Minister Katie, is so difficult. 271 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 2: It's so easy to say to stop the flights, but 272 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 2: this is a humanitarian response. I have people coming to 273 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 2: me in my community, their friends, their family have been 274 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 2: caught up overseas. When COVID first hit, many people thought 275 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 2: just bunker down, stay where you are if they couldn't 276 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 2: get out in time, And now as the months have 277 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 2: dragged into a year, it's a really difficult situation. 278 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: I've got another one here. It says, please ask file 279 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: Zy if social distancing and signing in venues is still mandatory. 280 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 2: So, Katie, it's really important that we all the personal 281 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 2: steps we can take, so if we're stick staying at home, 282 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 2: getting tested, using hand sanitizer, just keeping that extra distance 283 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 2: between people. But also that QR coding is really important. 284 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 2: Particularly it's difficult because we haven't had an outbreak, we 285 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 2: haven't had to use it, but if we were to 286 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 2: see that it would be so vital. 287 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: So is it, Manda Tray. 288 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 2: So Katie, it's still part of COVID management plan. So 289 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 2: when you go to a business or you go to 290 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 2: an event, they will submitted a management plan to the 291 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 2: Department of Health, and so yes, it is part. 292 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: Of that Okay, I just want to go across to 293 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: another thing that you and I spoke quite extensively about 294 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: with the whole panel on Friday during the week. That 295 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: was that worker shortage for hospitality and also tourism. This 296 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: is an issue for farmers as well, but I do 297 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: just want to focus for a moment on hospitality and tourism. 298 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: On Friday, the government announced two million dollars to entice 299 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: people to the territory to fill critical worker shortages in 300 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: these sectors, Minister, are these incentives just aimed at people 301 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: living inter state? 302 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 2: So, Katie, these incentives are aims at anyone that wants 303 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 2: to join the sectives that we're currently seeing a shortage 304 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 2: in workers. So particularly hospitality and primary industries are two areas. 305 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 2: So some of the opportunities in the package include short 306 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 2: courses that are provided by the government, so free around 307 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 2: responsible service of alcohol, housekeeping and tour guiding. So we've 308 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 2: worked with industry and identified the positions that they're really 309 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 2: struggling to feel and looking at how we can try 310 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 2: and support them to get people into those positions. 311 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: So at this point in time, are we doing anything 312 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: to bring workers from overseas or to maybe extend visas, 313 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: work with the federal government to extend visas for those 314 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: who are already in Australia. 315 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 2: So there's been conversations between the Chief Minister and the 316 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 2: Schedial treasure around the visas. And so some people are 317 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 2: here and they're restricted to working for one employer, they 318 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 2: can only work a certain number of hours, so that 319 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 2: there are workforce that's here. We did do a lot 320 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 2: of work around team or less and getting some of 321 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 2: those fruit pickers, and then we've seen the coronavirus situation 322 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 2: worse and dramatically over there, so it is better to 323 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 2: rely on a workforce that's here in Australia. But we're 324 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 2: certainly open to different ideas. But this two million dollar 325 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 2: package is aims particularly at supporting those industries that are 326 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 2: really struggling to get workers with practical measures like I 327 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 2: just outlined. 328 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: Minister for Health Natasha Fhiles, we are going to have 329 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: to leave it there. Thanks so much for your time 330 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: this morning. 331 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 2: Thanks Katie,