1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: Now yesterday you would have heard on the show we'd 2 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: spoken to the Assistant Commissioner, Matt Hollanby and he said 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: that there'd been some issues from the night prior. We 4 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 1: know that a number of businesses in Winelli and by 5 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: the look of things now other areas targeted by a 6 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: large group believed to be from the Western Daily region 7 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: I believe. Now joining me in the studio though, the 8 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: man who's got all the details it is the head 9 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: of Strikeforce Trident, Senior Sergeant Dale Matter Barnard. Good morning 10 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: to you, Dale. 11 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 2: Good morning Katie, Good morning to all your listeners. 12 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: Now, mate, I believe up until late yesterday there'd been 13 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 1: eleven arrests. Talk me through where things are at at 14 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: the moment. 15 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 3: So we had nine arrests in relation to the crimes 16 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 3: free from overnight as of this morning, and as of 17 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 3: current it's now eleven members from Triden have gone out 18 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 3: this morning made a further two arrests. But yeah, we 19 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 3: had nine in custody by about eight o'clock yesterday morning 20 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 3: or related to an overnight crime spree which is quite 21 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 3: extensive span from Adelaide River and then obviously made its 22 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:03,959 Speaker 3: way up here where a number of areas were targeted 23 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 3: Berrima Whenellie Nakara, you know, the casino and a couple 24 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 3: of other places as well were also impacted and it 25 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 3: basically resulted in a total of eight cars being stolen. 26 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 3: At the time of us being called out, we only 27 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 3: knew about one car being stolen to put that into context, 28 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 3: and then as the day eventuated, it turned into eight. 29 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: Look, it's an enormous number of cars in one night. 30 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 1: It's an enormous number of offenders so far. Eleven arrested 31 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: so far in relation to this crime series. How many 32 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: do you think it's still outstanding. 33 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 3: Look, we think the group that traveled in in the 34 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 3: school bus that they stole from Adelaide River was in 35 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 3: the realms of around eighteen nineteen individuals all sort of 36 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:54,559 Speaker 3: in that age range between fifteen and twenty, some mixture 37 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 3: of older youths and young adults. 38 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: And so you're obviously still on hunt for those that 39 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: are remaining at this point in time. 40 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, we've still got a number of outsounding offenders. 41 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 3: We believe most of them are still in the Darwin area. 42 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 3: We don't think any of these cars that they've still 43 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 3: got possession of have traveled back to the western Daily 44 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 3: region where they all originate from. So we're pretty confident 45 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 3: that they're still in town. Just going to take us 46 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 3: a little bit to try and track them all down. 47 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 3: We need some further evidence into who they all are 48 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 3: because at this stage that's still unknown for us. 49 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, were they giving you the correct info, you know, 50 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: yesterday or how did that all go? 51 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 2: Yeah? 52 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 3: One of the offenders that we arrested tried to pull 53 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 3: the wool over us, so to say, he lied about 54 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 3: who he was, made out to be a first time offender. 55 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 3: Since been revealed that he's certainly not a first time offender. 56 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 2: You know. 57 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:50,959 Speaker 3: Turns out he was a twenty year old adult on 58 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 3: a seventeen year old youth with some criminal history. So 59 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,679 Speaker 3: he's still in custody at the moment, facing some further charges. 60 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,239 Speaker 1: I wish I could say I was dumbfounded, but unfortunately, 61 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: you know, we see these kinds of incidents, don't we 62 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,519 Speaker 1: from time to time, and I guess, you know, look, 63 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: I'm reluctant to say names of gangs or groups of 64 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: people because I don't want to give them any notoriety. 65 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 1: But I know the big question that people are asking 66 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: us this morning, is are this through the Jovie Boys? 67 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 2: Now? Look, this isn't the Jovie Boys. 68 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 3: Unfortunately, in that Western Daily region we have quite a 69 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 3: number of gangs. The names and the mixture and combinations 70 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 3: of those gangs changes quite regularly. 71 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 2: But this wasn't the Jovie Boys. 72 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: Now. One of the other things that I have noted, 73 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: and I saw it on nine News Darwin last night 74 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: as well, is that this group's sharing like they are 75 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: literally sharing the vision of themselves inside a bus that 76 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: they've stolen. It's mortifying to think that, you know that 77 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: these people are committing all these crimes and they're proud 78 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: of it, like they're sharing it everywhere. 79 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 3: Look, it's certainly something we encounter quite frequently with this 80 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 3: group of offenders, particularly from the Western Daily region. Most 81 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 3: of them extremely proud of the crimes that they they're committing, 82 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 3: and it's sort of glorified. You know. When we arrest them, 83 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 3: people that are nearby that may be related to the 84 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 3: more friends of them come over. They want to take 85 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 3: photos with them, and then later on they post those 86 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 3: photos up on social media of them being arrested, or 87 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 3: reshare their memories to the cars they've stolen and trashed. 88 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 3: And the things that they've done with them. It's yeah, 89 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 3: it's certainly frustrating for us. 90 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: Look, I don't want to get you involved in a 91 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: political discussion, but do you reckon these If we see 92 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: a change to boasting and posting laws, is it going 93 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: to potentially make a difference. 94 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 3: I don't think it's going to deter them so much 95 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:39,119 Speaker 3: from posting. I think that that needs a bigger change. 96 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 3: It's got to be a more community led change. Yes, 97 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 3: you know, the community out there seemed to accept that 98 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 3: this is the way that it is and they're sort 99 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 3: of happy with that. So those standards need to change 100 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 3: before any sort of legislations will have an impact. 101 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: Absolutely, those standards need to change. Now. In terms of 102 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: the ages, you said you believe the sort of age 103 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 1: between fifteen and tween years old. Do you have any 104 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: understanding at this point if any of those were out 105 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: on bail. 106 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 3: So five of the offenders that were arrested were subject 107 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 3: to bail conditions, actually sorry, six or subject to some 108 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 3: sort of court order. Let's say four were certainly on bail. 109 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 3: The youths and two of the adults were subject to 110 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 3: court orders. 111 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: Wow, look, people listening are just going to be I 112 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: think even more horrified by that. And then you know, 113 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: seeing that they're targeting different businesses, different homes, people's livelihoods, 114 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 1: you know, and they seem to have a real type 115 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: when it comes to cars, don't they. 116 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 117 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 3: Look, I think in the space of about three hours, 118 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 3: at a rough estimation, there's about three hundred thousand in 119 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 3: stolen cars and damage incurred. We know that they got 120 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 3: in here about eleven o'clock on the Tuesday night and 121 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 3: by about two o'clock they'd stolen two am on the 122 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 3: Wednesday morning, they'd stolen most of the cars and caused 123 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 3: all of that damage and at somewhere in the realms 124 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 3: of around three hundred thousand. And obviously we'll have to 125 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 3: wait for some invoices to come through for those businesses impacted, 126 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 3: but certainly just the value of the cars alone puts 127 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 3: it up where they are quite high. 128 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: That's incredible. Now, as part of the arrest that you 129 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: were making, and due to the fact that you quite 130 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: often they are targeting those older model land cruises and troopees, 131 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 1: I understand that you also made another erest was it 132 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: last night? 133 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 3: So it was in the mix of all this. So 134 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 3: basically at about twelve thirty am, myself and five of 135 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 3: my colleagues plus two dog units or come on to 136 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 3: duty to deal with what certainly was going to be 137 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 3: a busy night. We set up a bit of a 138 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 3: cordon and it had a plan response to how we're 139 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 3: going to deal with this. We do it so often, 140 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 3: we're getting very good at it. But around four thirty am, 141 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 3: an older model land Cruiser you appeared into the scheme 142 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 3: of things. Didn't stop it like a traffic apprehension was conducted, 143 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 3: didn't stop. Pursuit commenced, was followed all the way through 144 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 3: Berry Springs out to Acacia Hills. We spiked it. Turn 145 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 3: out it wasn't a stolen car. It's just a twenty 146 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 3: five year old female high on myth She had he 147 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 3: two year old twins sitting on her lap during the pursuit. 148 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 3: But it wasn't a stolen car. It's just an unrelated 149 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 3: or It's still extremely concerning, extremely frustrating for us, but 150 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 3: it's just one of those things. This is what happens 151 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 3: when you're out there doing this, you come across these 152 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 3: things as well. 153 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: That's horrifying. So a twenty five year old woman allegedly 154 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: high on myth with her two children, her twin children 155 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: on her lap. 156 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 3: Yes, there was a single cabu her and her partner 157 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 3: in the car and the two twins were sitting on 158 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 3: their laps. 159 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: Mate, I'm lost for words. That doesn't happen very often 160 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: with me, but yeah, you know, children deserve better than that. 161 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 3: Absolutely, And look, we've submitted the referrals through to territory families. 162 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 3: I've had some communication with them this morning, but it 163 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:56,239 Speaker 3: would be over them to follow up from. 164 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely. 165 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: Now, just going back dale to the crime series, I 166 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: understand that those police, your police vehicles were also targeted 167 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: as part of this whole series of crime as well. Yeah. 168 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 3: Look, so in the Acacia Hills region there was a 169 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 3: business well actually it was bushfires and t that were 170 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:18,239 Speaker 3: targeted and they had to their decommissioned fire trucks stolen 171 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 3: and ran through the fence out there. We ended up 172 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 3: recovering both of those cars, but in the second circumstance 173 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 3: of recovering the vehicle, we had a pursuit with it, 174 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 3: took it down to where we were set up in 175 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 3: Acacia Hills and come to a stop and then deliberately 176 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 3: reversed back into one of our vehicles and basically rendered 177 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 3: it undrivable. It's inoperable, too much funt end damage to 178 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 3: get it started again. We've had to tell it back 179 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 3: to Dah and fortunately no one was hurt. But it's 180 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 3: certainly frustrating that we're having to repair a vehicle or 181 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,719 Speaker 3: a vehicle down now for however long it takes to 182 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 3: get that repaired and well. 183 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: And that people are targeting the Northern Territory Police and 184 00:08:56,120 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: indeed any emergency service. It's terrible behavior in terms of 185 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: what you know, what the plan is today? It sounds 186 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: like you don't sleep for a start, sounds like you're 187 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 1: constantly at work, But what's the plan today? 188 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 3: Well, look, we're still following up from that crimes Free 189 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 3: but we believe overnight the same group have been involved 190 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,079 Speaker 3: in some further offending. There was an attempt at stealing 191 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 3: a car at the hospital overnight. 192 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 2: They were unsuccessful in that attempt. 193 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 3: That older model land Cruise was fitted within a mobilizer, 194 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 3: which means or meant that they weren't able to get 195 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 3: away with it. But there has just been another older 196 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 3: model land Cruise reported stolen from Jingle, so we're following 197 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 3: that one up now to determine if it is linked. 198 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: Dale, do people need to be quite vigilant. I mean, 199 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 1: obviously we need to make sure we're looking up. If 200 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: you've got an older model land Cruise or Troopy, I 201 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: would be taking extra steps to keep it secure at 202 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:48,199 Speaker 1: this point. 203 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 204 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 3: Look, it's all old model cars, sort of pre two 205 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 3: thousand and five, before a mobilizer has become standard. These 206 00:09:56,520 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 3: guys are exceptionally quick and skilled at stealing them, and 207 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 3: they deliberately target them, and they spend their daytimes walking around, 208 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 3: driving around looking for places where these old model cars 209 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 3: are stored, and then they come back a nighttime and 210 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 3: steal them. And we know that it is quite often targeted. 211 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 3: The same businesses get hit repeatedly, but they also are 212 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 3: targeting residential properties. So if you do you own an 213 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 3: older model land Cruiser or high Lux or even though 214 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 3: they make some models forwards Missins and the like, try 215 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 3: and fit them within a mobilizer or some sort of 216 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 3: theft prevention device because these guys will get it and 217 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 3: then it becomes extremely difficult to get it back. 218 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: Well, Dale malt Barnard, the Strike Force Trident Senior Sergeant, Mate, 219 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: I always appreciate your time I know that you've had 220 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 1: an incredibly busy, well forty eight hours if not longer 221 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: by the sounds of it, but we really appreciate you 222 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 1: coming in the studio having a chat with us, making 223 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: people aware of what's going on so that they can 224 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: try to secure their vehicles and stay vigilant. We appreciate 225 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,439 Speaker 1: the work that you guys are doing, and I am 226 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: sure that you're going to get those outstanding offenders very quickly. 227 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:06,719 Speaker 2: No worries. Thanks Katie, Thank you,