1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,080 Speaker 1: It is time for the week that was, and joining 2 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: us in the studio this morning. We've got the colp's 3 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: Marie Claire Boothby, Good morning to you. 4 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 2: Good morning Katie, and good wedding listeners. 5 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 1: We've got Tom Morgan from the NT News. 6 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 3: Good morning to you. 7 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 4: Tom, Morning, Katie, morning all your listeners. 8 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 1: We've got Keziapuric, the independent member for Goida. 9 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 3: Good morning, Katie. Morning to all the bush people. 10 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: And we've got Evil Alla, the well the Education Minister 11 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: and various other things, but the labor wrap this morning. 12 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 5: Good morning, and I'm recovering from COVID. I got out 13 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 5: of COVID isolation on Wednesday, so I sound croaky or 14 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 5: start to cough, and that's why to. 15 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:35,599 Speaker 1: Marie, we've got her spaced away from her. She's got 16 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:39,599 Speaker 1: her microphone to everybody listening now. There has been so 17 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: much happened throughout this week, and we might kick things off. Firstly, 18 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: I'll just let our listeners know if they haven't heard 19 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:47,959 Speaker 1: in the local news, that there are some heavy delays 20 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 1: and road closures throughout the place this morning, particularly along 21 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: Tiger brenn And Drive following two separate incidents. So major 22 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:59,279 Speaker 1: crash Investigators are reviewing the scene between Gurrimella and Boulevard 23 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: and also make Me Street after a woman was struck 24 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: down by a vehicle traveling inbound towards the city at 25 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 1: about four am. A twenty seven year old mail driver 26 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: has been arrested after running over a pedestrian and failing 27 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: to stop at the scene. Authorities have also asked motorists 28 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: stuck in traffic along the same roadway at Wishart to 29 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: be patient. I understand that things are now starting to 30 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: certainly clear up a little bit, but some yeah, some 31 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: pretty terrible news there from overnight and we'll keep a 32 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:31,559 Speaker 1: close eye on those road incidents. Will also be catching 33 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: up with the Territory Police after ten o'clock this morning. 34 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: But as I said, it has been a very busy weekend. 35 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 1: Well Anthony Albanezi he was sworn in earlier this week 36 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 1: as Australia's thirty first Prime Minister as his incoming Labor 37 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: government takes over power after almost a decade of coalition rule. 38 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: It was a very interesting weekend, Kesier. You were betting on. 39 00:01:55,640 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 3: Lo can you see these big crocodile tears? Well you 40 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 3: got it wrong, didn't you. Well, I need a little 41 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 3: bit wrong. The corlition was doing all right in the beginning. 42 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, but they're still running a horse race. But Damian 43 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 6: Ryan with lingiarian. I know they haven't declared it, and 44 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 6: I hear that Labor is pretty confident. But I think 45 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 6: he's done an excellent job. It's just I don't think 46 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 6: he's really going to get there in the end. But 47 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 6: good on him, and good on anyone who really puts 48 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 6: their hand up and serious about, you know, trying to 49 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 6: get into public life. 50 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 2: Oh. 51 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 1: I think it's an enormous effort. Well, I think it's 52 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: an enormous effort to put your hand up to run 53 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: in politics. It can be a very thankless job in 54 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 1: a lot of ways. So I think it's an enormous 55 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: effort to put your hand up. But it's certainly been 56 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 1: an interesting one. I know that the seat of Solomon, 57 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: I mean Tom, there was no swing against against Luke 58 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: Gosling whatsoever, despite the fact that I know that the 59 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: COLP did certainly run a race that was based largely 60 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: on some of the crime issues that we're seeing around 61 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: the territory. It was interesting and he is and is 62 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,239 Speaker 1: a solid a solid member of Parliament. He does a 63 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 1: he works hard, he does a good job, and the 64 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: voters seemed to think exactly the same. Yeah. 65 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 4: And it was surprising that some of the swings that 66 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 4: we saw toward labor where in areas that you know, 67 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 4: at the territory level the CLP win, So parts of 68 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 4: Palmerston Booth might be a bit concerned about that. Parts 69 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 4: of you know, the northern suburbs as well also saw 70 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 4: significant swings. I think the main lesson that the CLP 71 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 4: may have to take away from from this result is 72 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 4: that and this is what people inside labor were saying 73 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 4: before the election, was that voters seemed to be differentiating 74 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 4: between territory issues such as crime and federal issues which 75 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 4: were more you know, to do with health and education, 76 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 4: while they're also territory issues, but other issues that sort 77 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 4: of might have cost of living for instance, and national security, 78 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 4: and those are massive issues here in the territory. 79 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: I think. 80 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 5: I mean, the the bottom line is, though, how many 81 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 5: elections can live. Pinoki Ai was leader of the opposition 82 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 5: lose in the Northern Territory. She's lost the territory election 83 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 5: for the by election in Jinglely. She's lost the unlosable 84 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 5: by election in Daily and now this federal election, and 85 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 5: I think the CLP would be having a really good 86 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 5: hard look at these issues. Lea's comment I think it 87 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 5: was on Monday or Tuesday and said Tina McFarlane was inoffensive. 88 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 5: If that's an adjective that you use to describe your 89 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 5: candidate for the House of Reps. No, it was her 90 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 5: just said her candidate was a in offensive candidate. 91 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 3: And I think said. 92 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 5: Talking about it, but I mean that. But I think 93 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 5: that's what gets to the heart of this issue though, 94 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 5: is that. I mean, there was so much in fighting 95 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 5: if the CLP that the heart wasn't in the campaign 96 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 5: at all. You could feel that, you could feel that Labor, well, 97 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 5: for us who are involved with politics a lot, you 98 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 5: could feel that Luke was on a roll and we 99 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 5: saw that on polling day. I was in covid Ice, 100 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 5: but I was getting lots of text messages and the 101 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 5: messages from the people on the booths in Palmson was 102 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 5: that everybody was really positive, feeling really good about Labor, 103 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 5: coming up for a chat, wanting to take a how 104 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 5: to vote so and we saw that, you know, sixty 105 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 5: percent was a huge vote for Luke Goslin. 106 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 4: There has been some internal discussion Katie within the CLP 107 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 4: about you know, what to take away from this result, 108 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 4: and it sort of mirrors the wider debate that they're 109 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 4: having within the Liberal Party after you know, the Teals 110 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 4: and all that in Sydney and Melbourne. I've talked to 111 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 4: people who think that the party needs to move further 112 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 4: right because they saw you know, ten percent of their 113 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 4: vote peel away to the Liberal Democrats and Parmy United 114 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 4: and One Nation. There are also some people who say, oh, 115 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 4: we need to be more in the center and try 116 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 4: to fight labor. So there's still you know, elections. You know, 117 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 4: well they haven't called lingiari called Solomon, but the ramifications 118 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 4: for the CLP and the lesson they're going to take 119 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 4: away from it still not clear yet. 120 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 2: So yeah, okay, I'll finally get to say something. Thank 121 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 2: you. You Look, Solomon was always going to be tough. I mean, 122 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 2: Luke is a likable guy, you know, and he has 123 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 2: had two terms to be able to get out and 124 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 2: about the community. So you know, we knew that was 125 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 2: going to be tough, and so we put our best 126 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 2: foot forward. We were really supportive of our candidate right 127 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 2: across Darwin and Palmeston being Tina of course, and we 128 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 2: can't forget that we actually don't have any CELP members 129 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 2: in the northern suburbs, so that was a bit of 130 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 2: a disadvantage. All of our members are below the Bear 131 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 2: of Maligne and that went to show that, you know, 132 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 2: Damien in Leiary has done a really good job. That 133 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 2: is the best result that the CELP has had in 134 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 2: thirty years plus. And don't forget Ja Center Price was 135 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 2: elected into the Senate. 136 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 5: Senate's not even don't even use the Senate. That's an 137 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 5: example because it's it's always two parties and that's that's 138 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 5: the way. If you didn't win, the said big. 139 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 2: There now and she'll be finding for territory. 140 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 5: Let's have a look also at Lingiari. So Labor got 141 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 5: seventy six percent of the vote in the Bush, so 142 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 5: we do know in the Bush people vote Labor, but 143 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 5: only about sixty percent of people actually turned out to vote. 144 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 5: So this is a big issue and I know Marian 145 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 5: scrimmin DAWs talked about that as well. The Australian Electoral 146 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 5: Commission need to step up, they need to do their job. 147 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 5: We need to make sure that every single territory and 148 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 5: has the opportunity to vote and that we haven't seen 149 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 5: that in the. 150 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: Social brick and they're not doing enough out in the 151 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: bush at the moment. 152 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 5: They're definitely not doing enough out in the bush being 153 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 5: that they need to be able to. And it's across 154 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,679 Speaker 5: the board. It starts at schools as well and around education. 155 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 5: And I also heard a member in Western Sydney talking 156 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 5: about making sure that we don't we have less informal votes, 157 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 5: that we're educating young people about the importance of voting 158 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 5: and how to vote correctly as well. So it is 159 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 5: some big work that the Autralian Electoral Commission need to do. 160 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: Speaking of young people, I know that Tom you wrote 161 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,559 Speaker 1: a story in the paper for Today and prominent former 162 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: COLP member Linda Fasildin has warned the party that they're 163 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: not listening to young people as inside is express alarm 164 00:07:56,360 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: it swings against them in blue ribbon seats. CLP, as 165 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: we know, did suffer that swing against them in Solomon. 166 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: You know, from the outside looking in, I've got to say, I, 167 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: you know, I actually think the party wing of the 168 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: COLP seemed to be doing a relatively good job in 169 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: terms of you know, keeping their policy together and keeping 170 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: things together and knowing what territorians care about. I feel 171 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: as though the issue that the CLP has got at 172 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: the moment is within the party, you know, and you've 173 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: got a situation where, you know, where you had the 174 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: president stand down towards the end of last year, You've 175 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: had prominent members then of the COLP party standing down 176 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: and leaving the party. And it's probably leaving a lot 177 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: of people, a lot of Conservative voters within the Northern 178 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: territory going what's going on? 179 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, they were sort of attached from both sides. Really, 180 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 4: there's young people who are moving more toward labor toward 181 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 4: the Greens, and then you have the lifelong members leaving. 182 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: You know. 183 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 4: Jeded Hansen was a vice president of the COLP. He 184 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 4: left and joined the Liberal Democrats, became a can at 185 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 4: it for them. You had kylie Be and i Andi 186 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:06,719 Speaker 4: do the same. Sam McMahon obviously, I agree that the 187 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 4: link result for the COLP is more encouraging and I 188 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 4: think they're moving in the right direction there. I think 189 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 4: that the messaging in Darwin, though people have said they 190 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 4: need to be work on that, particularly younger voters, because 191 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 4: there's a lot of transient voters who like, you know, 192 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 4: younger people who move up to Darwin for several years, 193 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 4: you know, do get to vote. And I think the 194 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 4: COLP need to engage with them and talk with them 195 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 4: and try I'm going. 196 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 2: To call it. 197 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 3: I actually I think what they need to do as well. 198 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: And this is meant in no way, shape or form 199 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: as disrespectful towards Tena McFarlane, but we know that she 200 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: has run before for the COLP in other areas. I 201 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: actually think that the quality of candidates that they are 202 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: coming up with, or you know, the people that they 203 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: are choosing to run, needs to be more reflective of 204 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 1: the people that they've got in Parliament. And I actually 205 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: the only way that you're going to do that is 206 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: to realistically make the party a more attractive party to 207 00:09:58,880 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: be part of. 208 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 3: And I I don't know how you do that, but I. 209 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: Think Kisi, you've certainly been part of the party before 210 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: I and defected, which she can tell us. 211 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 6: Why common sense, I want to hang on to my seat. 212 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 6: I haven't read the paper today, so I'm not sure 213 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 6: exactly what Ninda Fasildine said, but if she claims that 214 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 6: the party is not in touch with young people, well. 215 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 3: Give me the evidence. Show me the evidence, show me 216 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 3: the facts. 217 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 6: And tell me what you've done over the twenty thirty 218 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 6: plus years you've been in the party with your husband, 219 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 6: Peter styles to connect with young people, Like it's easy 220 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 6: to sit on the outside of the ten and be 221 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 6: critical of those inside the tent. But what exactly what 222 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 6: are you talking about that the party can't connect with 223 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 6: young people. I know, and Labour's had young labor for 224 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,119 Speaker 6: many years and I know it's successful. For my observations, 225 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 6: A lot of people gravitate that way for whatever reason, 226 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 6: I don't know, And the COLP does have a young 227 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 6: COLP movement and for that reason, it's not necessarily about 228 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 6: they haven't done a good job, I don't think. In 229 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 6: my view, I think it's more complicated than that. It's 230 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 6: a bit like why women don't want to go and 231 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 6: work in the mining industry because they don't doesn't matter 232 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 6: what kind of women, what culture, what diversity, And it's 233 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 6: like a lot of people don't want to get involved 234 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 6: with politics. 235 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 3: And it is hard to engage them. And you're quite correct, 236 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 3: but it does start, like a. 237 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 6: Lot of things in life, in the school system, getting 238 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 6: people engaged into watch democracy how do you change the laws? 239 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 6: Do you want to make a difference, Are you not 240 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 6: happy with what's happening in your community, et cetera, et cetera. 241 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 2: I have a lot of respect for those members who 242 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 2: did leave the party and chose to do that, and 243 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 2: I actually absolutely do better elsewhere. Fine, And you know 244 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 2: the reason why we're in the party and we choose 245 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 2: the type of politics that we do is because we 246 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 2: are like conservative when we're free in our speech. And 247 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 2: sometimes that doesn't go the way that we want it 248 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 2: to go, but it is just one person's opinion. And 249 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 2: I think Katie you said that the members of Parliament 250 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 2: with the CPR are out listening to people and we 251 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 2: do understand the concerns. So that is absolutely the case. 252 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 2: And I think there's a lot of lessons to be 253 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 2: learned inelection, every single party learns them straight away and 254 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 2: we we jump on board and for me and the party, 255 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 2: it's onwards and uputs now. And I'd love to put 256 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 2: a call to action out there, like if there are anyone, 257 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 2: if anyone out there that has any ideas for any party, 258 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 2: then go and chat to them, like call is the. 259 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 3: Teal independence, A bunch of princesses. That's what I say. Easy, 260 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 3: you are an independent, but not a teal one. By 261 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:27,439 Speaker 3: the sound make up your mind about your color. You're 262 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 3: either going to be red, yellow, or green, or blue 263 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:34,079 Speaker 3: or black. But there's teal nonsense. Goodness me. Yes, I 264 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 3: mean it's a pretty color. 265 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 5: But but this is this is a classic example of 266 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 5: if you ignore that, it's to your parent. Absolutely, so 267 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 5: some amazing candidates. I think all of those that were 268 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 5: that voted in I mean the curtain across Melbourne. You 269 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 5: have exceptional people and they're women. So I'm very positive 270 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 5: about that. Did the woman exception and Perth I'm yes, 271 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 5: she did that and so amazing. Think if you. 272 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,479 Speaker 3: Look at those I think it's ten or thirty independence. 273 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:09,119 Speaker 6: They're white, middle to upper class, well educated, and all female. 274 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 3: So that in itself is sending a signal. 275 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 6: So I think some favor labor side of politics, some 276 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 6: favor the conservative side of politics. 277 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 3: It's not just one cohort. 278 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 5: That's why they till and. 279 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 2: Both labor and the liberals lost to those tals. 280 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 6: That's right, both did absolutely and I know just from 281 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 6: reading and observing the federal election a little bit up here, 282 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 6: but heavily down south where they've been affected by natural disasters, that. 283 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 3: The climate policies and the lack. 284 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 6: Of perceived lack of action on behalf of the Komorf government, 285 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 6: all of that stuff, because it's hurting those people physically, 286 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 6: emotionally and financially. So that I can see that the 287 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 6: issue of climate and the green agenda was much higher 288 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,079 Speaker 6: up on the priority list for a lot of voters 289 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 6: down there. And I think those women found that or 290 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 6: work that out. With the backing of Simon Homes at 291 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 6: court On and his fabulous fortune, then that can a 292 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 6: long way to getting being successful and that's how they 293 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 6: came from. 294 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 2: And it affected us in the territory too, like we 295 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,959 Speaker 2: did follow our national trend up here. So while there 296 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 2: was a bit of a push away from major parties 297 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 2: and that was really obvious throughout that election, that just 298 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 2: meant it did split those traditionally liberal conservative voters. 299 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: All people want is they want somebody who they feel 300 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: is listening to them, you know, no matter what party 301 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: it is, whether it's an independent, no matter who it is, 302 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: they want somebody who they feel is listening to them 303 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: and who is going to fight for them when it matters. 304 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: And they obviously felt that those two independents were going 305 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: to do that. 306 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 5: That listening is aligning values. That's what listening is about. 307 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 5: When you're talking to someone and somebody's talking back to 308 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 5: you and you're having those conversations. It's when you have 309 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 5: that alignment of values that people feel that they're listen 310 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 5: to and that's what it's about. 311 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 4: And there was the Greens candidate in Brisbane who went 312 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 4: around and knocked all knocked on ninety thousand doors in 313 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 4: the electricity ended up winning, which was Griffith, which is 314 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 4: the Labor seat. And Queensland voted heavily well in Green 315 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 4: for the Greens, which is unusual. But they've had floods, Yeah, exactly, 316 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 4: so you can see that it's starting to really dawn 317 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 4: on people and it's starting to become a big election 318 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 4: issue back here instead of Nightcliff, which mind you, isn't 319 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 4: the most representative part of the northern territory, the Greens 320 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 4: outpoll the COLP. Now you know that might be something 321 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 4: that happens every election, but you know, if the Greens 322 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 4: vote is continuing to grow in the northern suburbs, Labor 323 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 4: should also be worried. 324 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 3: Well, well, we're going to take a very short break. 325 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: You are listening to mix on O four nine's three 326 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: sixty It is the week that was. You are listening 327 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: to three sixty and on the show with us this morning, 328 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: Mary Claire boothby Tom Morgan, Kizier Puric and Eva Lawla 329 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: and well, we have been talking federal election, but it 330 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: wasn't the only big news of the political week. We 331 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: also know that the new Chief Minister, Attasha Files announced 332 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: to a new ministry on Monday morning, and. 333 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 3: Some big shakeups. 334 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: I guess you'd say Nicole Madison losing the police portfolio, 335 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: Eva Laula, You've taken on treasurer education, You've still got 336 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: infrastructure planning and logistics and territory development. You're a busy lady. 337 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 3: Yes, we're very, very happy, but much too busy to forget. 338 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 5: You presume I'm the oldest person in cabinet, so I 339 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 5: think I'm the one that can say no, no, no, 340 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 5: because that's what treasurers always do. No no is your 341 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 5: favorite saying to anybody who comes up to see you. 342 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 5: But I'm only joking. No, I'm really excited about being 343 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 5: treasure Obviously that's a it's a challenge, but really exciting 344 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 5: time to be part of. And we have a labor 345 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 5: in federally, and I've had a brief conversation with Jim 346 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 5: Chalmers as well, but we do know that there are 347 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 5: tough times ahead. We have seen some changes around inflation. 348 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 5: We know the issues around labor shortages as well, but 349 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 5: some of those federal some of the solutions that we're 350 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 5: seeing that labor talked about around improving childcare so we 351 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 5: can get more women into the workforce, more training for 352 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 5: people so we can skill people up. We need to 353 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 5: see those things happening quickly, so I'll be pushing very 354 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 5: hard for the territory around that. 355 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: What about the public service pay freees? We're seeing the 356 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: cost of living go up. How long is this payfree 357 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: is going to stay in place? 358 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 5: Well, we've done the budget for this twelve months is 359 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 5: financial year's budget's been done, But obviously we'll see what 360 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 5: our financial position is. I'm always happy to keep looking 361 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 5: at that. The positive thing is the budget is in 362 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 5: a really good position, and we know that because there 363 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 5: was not one question asked by the CLP in two 364 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 5: weeks of sittings around the budget, So it must be 365 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 5: a good budget. So it's a lot happening, but it 366 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 5: should still at least get some questions around the budget. 367 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 5: But it's positive, I mean really positive. I think Natasha 368 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 5: has done a really good job around selecting ministers. I 369 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 5: think it's a good match having police and youth together 370 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 5: because it's both of those need to be able to 371 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 5: sort the issues that we're seeing around crime and so 372 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,439 Speaker 5: I think Kate's hit the ground running with that. So 373 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 5: I think that's very very positive as well. But as 374 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 5: I said, education, I'm very happy to have education back 375 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 5: and I know Tash here and people saying, yeah, it's 376 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 5: a good match either. She's had a background in education, 377 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 5: So yeah, I think we're a good cabinet and i'd 378 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 5: like to also. I think that's the great thing about 379 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 5: Federal Labor. We've got some very very good people and 380 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 5: we've seen the work that Elbow and Penny Wong have 381 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 5: already done. Jim Chalmers will have Tanya pliversec. So it 382 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:28,719 Speaker 5: it's got a lot of depth federally and we'll have 383 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 5: to work very closely with them to get the best 384 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 5: for the territory. And that's how it works, Katie. 385 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 2: But in Ta Labor has actually always blamed the coalition 386 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 2: FEDS for not being able to deliver on their promises. 387 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 2: So we are actually looking forward to seeing how you 388 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 2: do work with me. 389 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 5: That's not true, because it's the opposite. I've actually worked 390 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 5: very well with Michael McCormack and Barnaby Joyce. We've got 391 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 5: a huge amount seven point six billion dollars. We did 392 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 5: so very well out of the federal budget so to 393 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 5: get the terrace. 394 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: But I have seen a situation in year gone by 395 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: though where the Federal government has definitely been blamed when 396 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,199 Speaker 1: it comes to the GST carve up, and when we 397 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 1: have seen, you know, issues with the Northern Territories budget, 398 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: that GST share has been something that that's been an issue. 399 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: I did note that when the budget was handed down 400 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 1: by the Northern Territory government this time round, there wasn't 401 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 1: a big thank you to the. 402 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 3: FEDS for the GSD share. 403 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:28,479 Speaker 6: Key did I missary actually comes from us? Yeah, you know, 404 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 6: and we are spending more because of the cost of 405 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 6: living and for whatever else. 406 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,679 Speaker 3: Maybe the trade scheme still got some legacy into it, 407 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 3: you know, So it's unlyfair. 408 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 6: That we should get out, we should get our fair 409 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 6: share of GST revenues. 410 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,880 Speaker 5: But as we know w A are the ones that 411 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 5: took more of a share than horizontal fiscal equalization. But 412 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 5: I can tell you I don't think Labour's going to 413 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 5: be touching WS. 414 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 1: No, they were pretty angry, but earlier in the week 415 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: they were having a crack at the at the Victorian 416 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 1: government and saying, well, if they want to bid on 417 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 1: the was it the world game, have it a crack. 418 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 5: But with I think it was nearly ten percent of 419 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 5: the vote, or a swing of ten percent in Wa too, Labor, 420 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 5: I don't think anybody's going to be touching. 421 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: Well. 422 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 4: Just going back to the point about GST, that was 423 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 4: a very subtle thank you. It wasn't really out gonna 424 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 4: want to take all the credit to bring the budget 425 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 4: back into surplus in the next four years, but it was. 426 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 2: In the budget documents treasurer. 427 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 3: So no, no, no one, no, I've told you that. 428 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 4: So the budget bottom line does improve over the next 429 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 4: four years, yes, mostly because of increased GST revenues. So 430 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 4: the FEDS are really the ones who are making Yeah. 431 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 5: Now, the positive or the other optimistic thing about the 432 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 5: budget is there are lots of big projects. So the 433 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 5: barossa we're talking about that aren't included, So it was 434 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 5: a conservative budget. And so yes, the GST, but also 435 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 5: some of our big projects that we're going to start 436 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 5: to see Beaterloo, Barossa, they weren't in there. And also 437 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 5: the big dollars that we're talking around about Middle Arm 438 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 5: and arrows, they weren't included either. 439 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: So it was a conservative I are so are we 440 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: going to now see some changes when you talk about 441 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: you know about the Beaterloo and we know that the 442 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: Coalition had flagged the Northern Territory as being a manufacturing 443 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 1: hub and spoken about the way that that our gas 444 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: here in the Northern Territory is going to help other 445 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 1: parts of Australia. Is that still going to be something 446 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 1: that happens under a federal labor government. 447 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 6: I don't think there should be any I don't think 448 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 6: there should be any reason why it shouldn't be okay 449 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 6: under any federal government. Having said that, whatever projects a 450 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 6: plan for Middle Arm, one, if it's going to be 451 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 6: any downstream processing, like you know, the fertilizer plants or 452 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 6: plastic manufacturing or whatever that requires high energy consumption and 453 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 6: you have to have that at a good price, otherwise 454 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 6: it just won't be commercially viable. So getting the gas 455 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 6: from Beatleloo is critical, not only because there's an abundance 456 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 6: there as we know, hundreds of years worth to the 457 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 6: Eastern Sea border whoever else wants it, but to use 458 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,679 Speaker 6: it in the territory. See, that's our biggest problem is 459 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 6: we have great horses at the ground level and then 460 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 6: we have terstory and we have nothing much in the 461 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 6: middle in regards to the manufacturing industry except for gas 462 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 6: plants at this point of time. So we need to 463 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 6: diversify and we can only do that with major projects 464 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 6: if we've got cheap power. 465 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 4: Yes. The thing that I guess you can say about 466 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 4: that though, is that you look at the new newly 467 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 4: elected Senate which has a much bigger Greens Cross brand. 468 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, and what impact it'll have. 469 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 4: Also, you know the Teals in the Lower House, Labor 470 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 4: still hasn't technically won a majority yet. They've won seventy 471 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 4: five according to the ABC, seventy five according to the 472 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 4: Australian as well, so they haven't. It all comes down 473 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 4: to the last few seats that they're counting at the moment. 474 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 4: But if Labor don't win a majority, then they also 475 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 4: need in the Lower House to negotiate with the Greens 476 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 4: as well. Now, the Greens have made a lot of 477 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 4: noise about the Beaterloo and about on shore and offshore gas, 478 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 4: and you just have to wonder where the federal Labor 479 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 4: in order to get some of its legislation passed, will 480 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 4: have to do deals on those. 481 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: Well. 482 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 6: I think territory is getting a bit fed up with 483 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 6: the federal government either interfering in our affairs when we 484 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 6: don't want them to, or saying things like I'm not 485 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,239 Speaker 6: surprised got Morrison got hammered because it was picked up 486 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 6: quite quite quickly and quite vocal in the territory where 487 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 6: he said no, no youth agual pass under my worst. 488 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 3: Type of thing. 489 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,959 Speaker 6: Now, I know that the labor federal government is more 490 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 6: sympathetic to our issues here in the churchy in that regard. 491 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 6: So if you get a group of people in the 492 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 6: in the Senate or the Lower House who believe they 493 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 6: know what's best for us and all terrortorids. I'm not 494 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 6: talking about just us here, institute at all territories. You know, 495 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 6: people out the Bilu way, Well, I would hope that 496 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,479 Speaker 6: the Labour stands up to the rite for us here 497 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,360 Speaker 6: in the teritory. Not some do good at tipping their 498 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 6: Chai lata down in Melbourne or Sydney. 499 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 3: About what goes on up here. 500 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 2: Besides besides the being the lou project, which we know 501 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 2: is going to have a lot of impact here, which 502 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 2: is fantastic, the Labor government currently today hasn't delivered any 503 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 2: other major projects, so you know, when is the next 504 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 2: project going to actually finish? It's it's a real worry 505 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 2: and we've got it. We've got it now. We've got 506 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 2: a treasurer in Eva who has she in the phrase 507 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 2: sometimes things go over, sometimes things go under, which. 508 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 5: Is exactly correct. 509 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, we've seen budget blowouts after budget blowout after 510 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 2: you in the infrastructure space some projects. 511 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 5: So so Murray Claire, I know you're reading your notes 512 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 5: there and obviously you've been provided the lines by the SEALP, 513 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 5: but let's be honest around that. This is what we 514 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 5: absolutely factual that there are and anybody who's listening out there, 515 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 5: anybody who's built a house, anybody who has built anything, 516 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 5: absolutely understands that there are costs blowouts at times, particularly 517 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,479 Speaker 5: nowadays in the last few years that we've seen with COVID, 518 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 5: So it's million difficult Blue rounds labor and there are variations, 519 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 5: and there were variations. We could go back to all 520 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 5: the projects in the four years of the SEALP. That's 521 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 5: a fact. Those projects are run by Dipple. It's not 522 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 5: run by me personally, Murray Claire. We have Dipple engineers 523 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 5: who were for the treasure and I will be I 524 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 5: will be outstanding treasure I can assure you, Murray Claire, 525 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 5: and I'll be very tight around the budget because every 526 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 5: decision has to be a quality decision around money. That's 527 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 5: not that's taxpayers money, but do there is a fact 528 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 5: that there are a number of talk. 529 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 1: A little bit more about the fact that obviously we've 530 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: got the new portfolios are in place. 531 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 3: We also saw the new. 532 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 1: Chief Minister, Natasha Files, do a bit of a trip 533 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: around the Northern Territory. 534 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 3: Is what we've seen in recent days. 535 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,239 Speaker 1: It does seem as though it's largely been you know, 536 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: like a lot of people have been quite happy to 537 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: see her in the likes of Catherine Tenant Creek, Alice Springs, 538 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,199 Speaker 1: and we know that she has admitted that the government 539 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: does need to do more in the likes of Alice 540 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: Springs to keep the community safe against property crime. It's 541 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 1: something we've spoken about on this panel on so many 542 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 1: occasions when it comes to crime, whether it's in Central Australia, 543 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,479 Speaker 1: whether it's in up here in the top End, no 544 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:47,199 Speaker 1: matter where it is. So it's look, I think that 545 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 1: definitely it's a step in the right direction to have 546 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,959 Speaker 1: to have that happening, to see the Chief Minister in 547 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 1: Alice with I believe with Kate Warden, the Minister for 548 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: for there. It will police now I was going to 549 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: say territory families, but police as well. 550 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:01,959 Speaker 4: And it needs to continue. It can't be just a 551 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 4: one time sort of tour of the territory. It needs 552 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 4: to be something that continues to happen. I know that 553 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 4: under the previous Chief Minister, Michael Gunner, there was Community Cabinet, 554 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 4: but those sorts of things you know, you sort of 555 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,880 Speaker 4: we didn't even know that were happening until after that happened. 556 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 4: I think that there needs to be a lot more 557 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 4: engaging with the average territory in one and that it 558 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 4: can't be just the in dial and it has to 559 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 4: be in Tenant Creek in Catherine. 560 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, we did so Community Cabinet and that's I mean, 561 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,439 Speaker 5: labor have done that for probably twenty years. But it 562 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 5: is about going to those communities and focusing on the 563 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 5: people in those communities who don't actually have an opportunity 564 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,360 Speaker 5: maybe to get to meet ministers. And the best thing 565 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 5: is everybody's there at the same time, so you can 566 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 5: have those multiple conversations and you can address the issues, 567 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 5: and then you've also got that follow up that you 568 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,199 Speaker 5: can follow through with. So the community cabinets will continue, 569 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 5: and as I said, I agree they are a really 570 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 5: positive things. 571 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 2: The community has been crying out for many, many years 572 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 2: now for the Chief Minister to go to Alice Springs 573 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 2: and other parts of the territory and it is taken 574 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 2: and a leadership change for that to occur. Now she 575 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 2: has come out and admitted that more needs to be done, 576 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 2: which is what everyone has been saying for years. My 577 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 2: fear is that this is just all talk, Like you 578 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 2: can't just say a couple of words and then say 579 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 2: you yet more needs to be done, like there actually 580 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 2: needs to be something in place that's going to demonstrate 581 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 2: that change. And just last week in Parliament showed that 582 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 2: she isn't serious about that, Otherwise she would have supported 583 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 2: the mandatory sentencing for assaults on workers as a minimum, 584 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 2: and then we had the inquiry that we put up 585 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,199 Speaker 2: to try and look at police and the problems that 586 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 2: they've got, and that was gagged, absolutely gagged. So what 587 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 2: she says and what is actually being done is very 588 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 2: different and territories know that now I knows it. 589 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: Throughout the week, the opposition leader Lea finocchi Aio was 590 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: pretty annoyed after she was unable to visit the Tenant 591 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 1: Creek Police station. She'd put in a request, as I 592 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 1: understand it, to be able to go into the Tenant 593 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: Creek Police station and see the officers there. 594 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 3: Now. 595 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 1: The Minister for Police Foreign Emergency Services, Kate Warden is Seen, 596 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 1: said that the police have got have busy jobs and 597 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: visits from ministers and opposition members require planning. She said 598 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: that it's her first week in the portfolio and she's 599 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 1: in the process of visiting the major regional centers throughout 600 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 1: the territory to meet with those police personnel to listen 601 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: and learn, and that she can assure the leader of 602 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: the Opposition that once I've completed these visits myself, I'll 603 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: be happy to accommodate a request to visit the Northern 604 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: territory police stations. But is this a situation where the 605 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: opposition leader has sort of been shut out here eva 606 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: is it acceptable? 607 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 5: No, well it's not. She hasn't been shut out. So 608 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 5: there's the Public Service Management Act that actually is very 609 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 5: clear about opposition I mean and the public servants. I 610 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 5: did notice that Leah did go to schools when she 611 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 5: was in the Barclay she was at Canteen Creek I 612 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 5: think in Epinara. But there is a process to go 613 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 5: through and that happened when we're in opposition as well. 614 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 5: And Kate Warden's priority was for her to go to 615 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 5: those police stations through the center because she was traveling. 616 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 5: Then she doesn't I wanted to become like a political 617 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 5: football where one day you've got the minister, the next 618 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 5: day you've got the opposition leader. The police are there 619 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 5: to do their job, and she was the focus. She 620 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 5: was the one that was doing her visits, which were 621 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 5: important as a new minister to get across all the details. 622 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 5: She was traveling with Michael Murphy, the deputy of the 623 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 5: Assistant commission our deputy commissioner. That was what the focus was. 624 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 5: She said no to Leah, that's what you can do. 625 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 5: As a minister, you can say no. And Lea, though, 626 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 5: instead of just accepting that with good grace, has made 627 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 5: a big fuss about that she went to schools in 628 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 5: the electorate. That's fine as well, not in her electorate. 629 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 5: You know, as a local member she can go to 630 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 5: schools in her electorate. She went to schools in Berkley region. 631 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 5: So it's not saying no, it was about at that 632 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 5: time it wasn't idea. 633 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: I reckon that most people will be accepting of that 634 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,479 Speaker 1: if that is the situation, that if it is just 635 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: on this occasion and not all the time past, she's. 636 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 4: Always got her She's went back to Wooden yesterday and 637 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 4: asked her about this because it sounded by she'd sort 638 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 4: of said, oh, you know, Leah needs to wait her turn. 639 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 4: It's my turn right now. And the statement that she 640 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 4: got back to me was I have simply asked for 641 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 4: a professional courtesy and clear air to allow me to 642 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 4: conduct my visits first. Yes, and but why why does 643 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 4: the minister get first DIBs on visiting police stay. 644 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 5: So she's a minister, she also been innster and the 645 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 5: minister she's a new minister and that's absolutely the priority 646 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 5: of her, and it should be also the priority of 647 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 5: police because she's the one that can absolutely make a 648 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 5: difference to their lives and to the jobs that they do. 649 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 5: So it needed to be and that's that's the prerogative 650 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 5: when you're in government. You are in government, you have 651 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 5: been elected, you have that. And the priority was that 652 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 5: I know Lea goes to the Palmerston police station has 653 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 5: often and so do you, Murray Claire. 654 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 4: So it's not this is just there was a local 655 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 4: member in the Barkley. He wasn't allowed to visit the 656 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 4: Tenant Creek, so the focus station. 657 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 3: And she came well. 658 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 2: Accountable. Nothing else that avoiding the scrutin need you. 659 00:30:58,920 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 5: Know that I don't want to know. 660 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 2: I don't want the opposition here and what's going on I. 661 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 3: Reckon at the moment. 662 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: There's a lot of There is a lot of good 663 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: will towards the new government in the sense that a 664 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: lot of Territorians do really want to see the government 665 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: do well, because let's be honest, if they do well, 666 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: the whole of the Northern Territory will indeed prosper well. 667 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: That's certainly the hope. So I think there is a 668 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 1: lot of good will there at the moment. 669 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 3: But let's be fair. 670 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: You know, there's still a lot of big issues in 671 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: the territory right now and that good will is going 672 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: to disappear pretty quickly if we don't sort of see 673 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 1: that open and transparent you know government that I think 674 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: we all hope for back in twenty sixteen. 675 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 2: And Whaturians are worrying about it as well, is that 676 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 2: we have a Territory Families Minister who is now also 677 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 2: the Police Minister. Are we going to see even further 678 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 2: watering down of the youth justice system. 679 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: Well, the way that it's been sold obviously is that 680 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: there's going to be that there is going to be 681 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: more sort of opportunity for the Police Minister. 682 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 3: To be able to see in that coordination. But only 683 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 3: time will tell us. 684 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 2: Time you increase focus on offenders, which is what it 685 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 2: is now, we need to have an increased because on victims. 686 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 5: If the CLP think that they have to go to 687 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 5: a police station to hear what's going on in the community, 688 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 5: well I think that just shows that how narrow their 689 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 5: view is. Back they should be out and about and 690 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 5: if you walk down ten and Creek, if you walk 691 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 5: down the street in tenn and Creek lear. You should 692 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 5: be able to hear what's going on. You don't need 693 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 5: to go to a police station to find out what's 694 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 5: going on in ten Creek. 695 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 4: I agree with with that, but I also think you know, 696 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 4: the visit with knock also got Kno knocked back for 697 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 4: a visit to borrow Lulla police station next week. Now 698 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 4: didn't have visited that facility. Has has she any intention 699 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 4: to visit that facility? 700 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 5: I'm sure she has every intention to sell continue trend 701 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 5: of like a scrutiny. 702 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 4: I just think you should have let it go. 703 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 5: Well well, as I said, if we keep she went 704 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 5: to in the Berkley and so no it was and 705 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 5: I mean I don't well there's probably lawrence because she 706 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,479 Speaker 5: was still probably minister at the time. But you know, 707 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 5: you do need to get out and about whether you're 708 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 5: in opposition, whether you're in go. We know that and 709 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 5: generally that happens, and that's a fact. But as you said, 710 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 5: everybody needs to be out listening. Everybody needs to be 711 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 5: talking to their left right. 712 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 2: Do we do that? 713 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 1: Well? 714 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 6: The only thing I'd say, in fairness to the police 715 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 6: officers on the ground, as an independent I have to 716 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 6: go through the minister's office to do something a bit 717 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 6: different that's outside of my electric or to help someone 718 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 6: rather than go to a direct public servant. Sometimes it's 719 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 6: about protecting the public service and the people, because it's 720 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 6: too easy for a member of Parliament to go directly 721 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 6: to a public servant, or go directly to the boss 722 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 6: of a police station or anywhere for that matter, and 723 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 6: then go away and then put out a media statement 724 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 6: and the pooral bugget that they've spoken to unbeknowing to them, 725 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 6: gets caught, you know, or gets dropped in it or something. 726 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 6: So it's apart from the process under the legislation. I mean, 727 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 6: I can't comment on the politics of what appears to 728 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 6: be happening here, but going through the minist's office is 729 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 6: always the way that it's done in any of our 730 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 6: jurisdictions in the country, and it's about protecting and ensuring 731 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 6: the intent of the public service, whoever that whatever agency is, 732 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 6: will the police or schools or whatever, which is. 733 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 2: Exactly what happened here. And then it was to climb 734 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 2: after it had been accepted in the first instance, and 735 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 2: then it got rejected. 736 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: Well, look we're going to take a bit of a break, minister. 737 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:15,959 Speaker 1: We are going to take a bit of a break. 738 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,320 Speaker 1: You're listening to Mix one O four nine's three sixty. 739 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: It is the week that was. 740 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 3: You are listening to Mix one O four nine. 741 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 1: It is just fifteen minutes away from ten o'clock and 742 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 1: everybody's still talking there in the background. But we have 743 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 1: gotten the studio Mary clam boothby Tom Morgan, Kisi Apurican 744 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,359 Speaker 1: to Eva Laula, and we know that throughout the week. Well, 745 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: we do know that the newly appointed Racing Minister, Chancey 746 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: Paik has committed to attending the twenty twenty two Day 747 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 1: and Cup Carnival. 748 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 3: Well you picked it, yes, said make it a good 749 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 3: racing equine minister, Yes you did. 750 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 1: Now it does come after the previous Racing Minister and 751 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: our Chief Minister Natasha Files scratch from the twenty twenty 752 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,760 Speaker 1: one Do and Cup Carnival. But was this your story 753 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: throughout the way talk It wasn't. Yeah, Well I like 754 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 1: that line from Nathaniel. 755 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 3: I thought it was a good one. 756 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: Now. The Carnival is, of course the highlight of the 757 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 1: territory's sporting calendar when it comes to racing. It does 758 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 1: also follow on from the fact that there was a 759 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: resignation of three dar And Turf Club board members throughout 760 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,280 Speaker 1: the week. We do know that the club is still 761 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 1: facing that having to pay back that twelve million dollars 762 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: for the Grandstand grant as well. 763 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 3: There is no doubt. 764 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 1: I think it'd have to say that the Turf Club. 765 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 1: I think the Darwin Turf Club would have to be 766 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 1: going through a pretty difficult time at the moment in 767 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,280 Speaker 1: terms of you know, the board members trying to rebuild 768 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:42,359 Speaker 1: that board, trying to rebuild things after those few years 769 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 1: of controversy. 770 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 2: This has been an absolute ongoing dodgy saga. And the 771 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 2: fact that the new Racing Minister has come out and 772 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 2: said that he would like to attend the Darwin Cup 773 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 2: Carnival unlike his predecessor. That's just words. That's not going 774 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,879 Speaker 2: to change the fact that they approved twelve million dollars 775 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 2: per grandstand, an absolute cloud of corruption. 776 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:09,399 Speaker 6: Well let me go next there. I don't know why 777 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 6: the three board members have resigned, and clearly after what's 778 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 6: happened the last twelve months, Yes, there'll be a lot 779 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 6: of internal rebuilding, a lot of refocusing, you know, what's 780 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 6: their strategic direction, perhaps rebuilding relationships with government at a 781 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 6: ministryal level and at senior bureaucrat level. But you know, 782 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 6: I'm a great supporter of things like the Turf Club, 783 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 6: and I and a lot of my constituents had no 784 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 6: issue with the money going to the Turf Club to 785 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 6: build the grandstand and the facility. It is how the 786 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,800 Speaker 6: process was handled government, not by the bread Dixons of 787 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,839 Speaker 6: this world, and internal of the turf club. 788 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 2: Racing industry is a very important industry for the territory, 789 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,760 Speaker 2: that's right. And a lot of people horse. 790 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 6: Ownership, horse functions, as you know, I talk about it 791 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 6: quite often. You know, the equine industry is very valuable 792 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,760 Speaker 6: to the world, not only into the economy, but also 793 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 6: to the community and to people and the general world 794 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 6: being and all that sort of stuff. And what I've 795 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 6: said about the whole deal, and I do I'm a 796 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,319 Speaker 6: bit with you, Claire, Mary Claire, is that there are 797 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 6: still questions to be answered within government of how the 798 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,319 Speaker 6: process went about or came about. I don't, for one, 799 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 6: don't think the money should be paid back at all. Legally, 800 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 6: they broke no laws. Show me where the laws were 801 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 6: actually broken in regards. 802 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 5: To there's an ICAQ inquiry that no. 803 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 3: Come on let's look at that ICQ inquiry. But that 804 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:26,240 Speaker 3: was flawed in itself. 805 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 6: Had you had a an employee of IKAK who was 806 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 6: commissioned to write a report for the turf club, who 807 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 6: effectively got sacked from writing the report, and then she 808 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 6: was one of the co authors of the report into 809 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 6: the IKAK and three of them have the bloody iy 810 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,279 Speaker 6: cack in court. So you can't tell me. 811 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 1: That the report here because at the end of the day, 812 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 1: they got twelve million dollars to build that grandstandard still 813 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 1: being built and there are people in it. Even you 814 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 1: are going to be holding the purse strings. Are you 815 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 1: still expecting that twelve million get back legally? 816 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 3: In my view, and I've been told them they can. 817 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 4: They can reduce the funding that the government provis yes 818 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 4: each year. 819 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,360 Speaker 6: So if they reduce the funding, then there'll be rezusi 820 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 6: of services and there'll be reduction. 821 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,280 Speaker 3: In the contribution to the economy in the community. 822 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 5: There's a number of there are so many factors in 823 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 5: this story. But first of all and foremost, there was 824 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 5: an IKQ investigation. And you know, you can say all 825 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 5: these things about the IKAQ investigation, but the IQAQ investigation 826 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,399 Speaker 5: was very clear about that the Northern Territory government gave 827 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 5: a grant. Northern Territory Government. I think probably every single 828 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:26,840 Speaker 5: person in the Northern Territory over the last three or 829 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 5: four years has had some sort of grant from the 830 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,720 Speaker 5: Northern Territory government, whether it's a tourism voucher, home improvement scheme, 831 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:37,280 Speaker 5: any of those. Northern Territory Government gives voucher, gives grants 832 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 5: out all the time. So with Netball Association got sixteen 833 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,840 Speaker 5: million to Builder Netball. The issue, as we know with 834 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,800 Speaker 5: the race course was around the tendering process. That's a fact. 835 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 5: That's the issue. So the Northern Territory Government will seek 836 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,400 Speaker 5: to get that money returned, and as Treasurer obviously we 837 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 5: want that to happen. There are processes around that. That 838 00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 5: all said. The turf club and has done very well. 839 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 5: That facility actually is an outstanding facility. I was there recently. 840 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 5: There's three floors and it was a Saturday night. I 841 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 5: was there at a wake, Jim Cooper's wake. On the 842 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 5: top floor. There was a I think it was the 843 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 5: Bank's Football Club had a presentation on the ground floor 844 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 5: and there was a twenty first on the second floor. 845 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 5: So that facility is being well used every weekend. So 846 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 5: the turf Club is making money out of that facility. 847 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 5: I'm sure they're making money out of silks as well. So, 848 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,239 Speaker 5: as I said, there is a process to go through 849 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:31,880 Speaker 5: and we'll do that. 850 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,239 Speaker 1: He's doing everything that it was supposed to do, and 851 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,760 Speaker 1: you know, and it got that twelve million dollar grant 852 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,879 Speaker 1: to do all of those things and it's now doing 853 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 1: all of that quite well. I guess that's where a 854 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 1: lot of people are now going. Well, hang on a second. 855 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 1: The grandstands there. We didn't want that money spent in 856 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,799 Speaker 1: the first place, but it has been spent, so why 857 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 1: do they need to now pay it back? 858 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 5: Because that was the problem, was that the tendering process, 859 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 5: which the government had been assured had been legitimate and 860 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 5: that they had been done, the probity had been followed, 861 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,319 Speaker 5: wasn't followed. And that's what the. 862 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 3: That's not that's not what the Turf Club X members say. 863 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,319 Speaker 4: Well, there were in the report, there were you know 864 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 4: people who there were you know, the report found that 865 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 4: people very close to Michael Gunner were texting and you know, 866 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:17,920 Speaker 4: involved in that candy process. 867 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,839 Speaker 2: I guess Michael, the Turf Court. 868 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 4: That Michael Gunner was the one who took that report 869 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 4: into cabinet under his arm though, was it not? So 870 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,840 Speaker 4: what happens with every single grant that the anti government hands. 871 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 2: Out, that's and somebody else has been asked to pay 872 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 2: back this money. So it's just no one has done. 873 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 5: But that's actually incorrect, Murray clear. People who get grants 874 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 5: that don't actually equit them or don't do them properly 875 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 5: are asked. And there's an example in Paris and around 876 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 5: and I won't say the organization, but where there was 877 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:51,400 Speaker 5: money that wasn't used acquitted and wasn't used appropriately that 878 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 5: they are being asked to pay money. 879 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 1: It is. 880 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 5: It does happen to other people and has happened forever 881 00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 5: around that if you don't if you get government money, 882 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 5: you don't use it for what you said in your 883 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 5: grand application that you're going to use it for. 884 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 2: If you can't reports I just said before that it was. 885 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 5: Anyway I think we do. 886 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:10,759 Speaker 1: Are you concerned about the impact that it is going 887 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,839 Speaker 1: to have on the racing industry or do you think 888 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,320 Speaker 1: that it's going to have an impact over the coming years. 889 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 1: That's what they've said is going to happen and it's 890 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,399 Speaker 1: clear to see at the moment, I think like even 891 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 1: with the rebuilding of their board, I think what's unfortunately happened, 892 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 1: you know, rightly or wrongly, is it's become a situation 893 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 1: where a lot of people are probably pretty concerned about then, 894 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,840 Speaker 1: you know, being part of that board or or you know, 895 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:35,879 Speaker 1: being part of the turf club. 896 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,839 Speaker 3: And I don't think that that's right, you. 897 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,359 Speaker 1: Know, I do think that at the end of the day, 898 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 1: we all want to see the racing industry do well 899 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,440 Speaker 1: in the Northern Territory. We know that, you know that 900 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,080 Speaker 1: there is obviously the on flow to the economy if 901 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 1: you have a great Darwin Cup Carnival. 902 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,719 Speaker 6: So it's a heart I think perhaps where we might 903 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 6: get a bit of a bit of clear air is 904 00:41:55,760 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 6: when the three court cases are concluded. From my memory, 905 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:06,920 Speaker 6: Brett Dixon's comes up in July. I know mister Murriarty 906 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 6: has been in court. I don't know if the judge 907 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:11,759 Speaker 6: is reserving a decision or where that's it. And I 908 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,640 Speaker 6: think there's another person who's got some case. So when 909 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,960 Speaker 6: those cases have been resolved one way or the other, 910 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 6: then I think there'll be some air where you can say, right, oh, 911 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 6: though I found that the judge found in this way, 912 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,200 Speaker 6: therefore it means this, or if the judge finds that way, 913 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:25,799 Speaker 6: it means that. 914 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 3: So I think it's been. 915 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 4: On the ICA elements of that report where the IKA 916 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 4: had to apologize to the NTVU. 917 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,399 Speaker 3: Well, look, there are questions. 918 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:38,839 Speaker 1: We'll take a very short break. We're running out of time. 919 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,120 Speaker 1: It's only seven minutes away from ten o'clock. You are 920 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 1: listening to Mix one O four nine's three sixty. Well, 921 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 1: if you have just joined us, there's only a few 922 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:47,920 Speaker 1: minutes left to go of the week that was. We've 923 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:51,479 Speaker 1: got evil Lawla Kesier Puric, Thomas Morgan and Marie Claire 924 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 1: Boothby in the studio. And before we wrap up this morning, 925 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 1: I've got a message here. How come they didn't make 926 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:05,400 Speaker 1: our Keysier the speaker she's the best still. 927 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,400 Speaker 3: Not her mum says that text. 928 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,800 Speaker 1: And another one here high Katie on a very sweet note. 929 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 1: Can you please ask Eva where Krispy Kreme is from? 930 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:20,719 Speaker 5: Yah, Krispy krem No. I think the latest that I 931 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,919 Speaker 5: heard was the issues around traffic, because where they want 932 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,799 Speaker 5: to put it on the corner as you turn into Gateway, 933 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:32,160 Speaker 5: there's issues around making so they're dealing with transport issues 934 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,200 Speaker 5: around because you've got those lanes that come over the 935 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,040 Speaker 5: rise and then everybody, as we know it is parmesan. 936 00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,640 Speaker 5: You have to move across three or four lanes and 937 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,160 Speaker 5: so make I think Krispy Kreme want to have an 938 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,920 Speaker 5: entrance that comes off Roystonia where the traffic people are 939 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 5: saying you would have to turn in, go back through, 940 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 5: go around the roundabout that's in the car park area 941 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,680 Speaker 5: or in the I'm not explaining this really clearly, but 942 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,799 Speaker 5: you'd have to drive into gateway and enter Krispy Krem. 943 00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,120 Speaker 5: Krispy Krem a wanting it to come straight off royst On. 944 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,680 Speaker 5: So I think that's the last I heard was the 945 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:07,719 Speaker 5: discussions are ongoing around access the economy, talk to edit 946 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:08,760 Speaker 5: to the impact. 947 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,480 Speaker 4: You know, the KFC on Bagot Road queuing up a 948 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 4: longlong bag It road. 949 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,359 Speaker 1: Had been well, let's hope that they're able to get 950 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:17,719 Speaker 1: it sorted. 951 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,560 Speaker 3: Because I love a good time, yes, so do we all. 952 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:24,719 Speaker 5: Unfortunately, there is I came. 953 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,040 Speaker 6: Back from Sydney a couple of weeks ago and the 954 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,000 Speaker 6: man there was a man on the aeroplane. He will 955 00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 6: a couple of people in front of me and he 956 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 6: had this big bloody bag with these huge boxes of 957 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:34,719 Speaker 6: Chrispy Krean things. 958 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:40,000 Speaker 3: I thought you're crazy. 959 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 4: Stores at the airport departure selling Krispy Krean. 960 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:44,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, pure. 961 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:48,799 Speaker 2: Benefits from that by employing them here and then the. 962 00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,880 Speaker 1: Money comes very true. Well that's it for us this morning. 963 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:53,680 Speaker 1: Thank you all so very much for your company. Mary 964 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,560 Speaker 1: Clare Booby from the COLP, thank you. 965 00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,600 Speaker 2: And I want to quickly say that on Sunday morning 966 00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,799 Speaker 2: is the r s p c as Oh yes, million 967 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,480 Speaker 2: walk and we'll be there doing bacon, egs and sausages. 968 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:07,360 Speaker 2: So please your fairy friends. I'm at the Potanical Gardens awesome. 969 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,759 Speaker 1: Thomas Morgan from the NT News, thank you, thank you 970 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 1: very much. And Kesier Puric, thank you. You are independent 971 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:14,200 Speaker 1: this morning. 972 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,440 Speaker 3: Thank you Katie, and well. 973 00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,000 Speaker 1: Evil Lawler the labor member, thank you so much for your. 974 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:19,480 Speaker 3: Time this morning. 975 00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,600 Speaker 5: I'll know I'll bit the Pumson Market tonight. I'm sure 976 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:22,600 Speaker 5: Markley will be there. 977 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,279 Speaker 3: We will see there busy one, no doubt. 978 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,560 Speaker 6: Can I just put in one plug just so, just 979 00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:29,640 Speaker 6: just to put it in people's minds, and I will 980 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,560 Speaker 6: come back on the nineteenth of June, which is a Sunday. 981 00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,120 Speaker 3: I'm having my garden fair at my home, my property. Okay, 982 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:42,640 Speaker 3: hang on, are you going to be wearing clothes naked? Finished? 983 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:42,960 Speaker 1: That was? 984 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:48,200 Speaker 3: Can't you see my pants? Just making sure? But the 985 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:49,240 Speaker 3: animals will be naked. 986 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,320 Speaker 6: I mean it's a garden fair and we're raising funds 987 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,680 Speaker 6: for wildcare, so there's going to be pony rides, old 988 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,520 Speaker 6: fire trucks, lots of animals to pat, lots of baby goats, 989 00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:59,480 Speaker 6: baby sheep, donkey. 990 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,440 Speaker 3: It's a lovely family thing. Plus you can look at 991 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:06,440 Speaker 3: the garden that we plant c Wa setting jams chut fantastic, 992 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:10,239 Speaker 3: So I'll bring more. But nineteenth Dune watches us Sunday people. Well, 993 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,120 Speaker 3: thank you all so very much for your time. 994 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,560 Speaker 1: You have been listening to the week that was right 995 00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:15,839 Speaker 1: here on Mix one oh four nine