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Speaker 1: Chat with Russell and Barrel.

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Speaker 2: We have a text from Debbie and Bifer if they

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Speaker 2: speaking of haircuts? Is it okay dads to tell your

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Speaker 2: child you don't like their new haircut or piercing or tattoo.

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Speaker 2: If so, what is the best way to say it?

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Speaker 2: Or should I just keep my mouth closed and support

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Speaker 2: their choices no matter what?

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Speaker 1: Not under this route?

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Speaker 3: You know what I would do there, Russ, what would you?

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Speaker 1: Would you do it?

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't once it's happened, obviously.

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Speaker 1: Not what I would do.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, just no, no no. I would have

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Speaker 3: the same reaction in some circumstances, but I just reckon.

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Speaker 3: Once it's happened, you can't put the genie back in

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Speaker 3: the bottle. There's no use sort of making it worse

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Speaker 3: by sort of getting a tattooyah. So you've got to prepare,

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Speaker 3: prepare for these things. And if you see some chat

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Speaker 3: amongst the group that you know there might be a

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Speaker 3: piercing going on, or perhaps are going to and they're

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Speaker 3: talking tattoos, I think you've got to have the chat.

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Speaker 1: You've got to listen. Can we just have a chat

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Speaker 1: about this.

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Speaker 3: I just need to tell you a few things about

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Speaker 3: tattoos and the regret that perhaps you have down the

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Speaker 3: track and you may not still be going out with

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Speaker 3: Johnny anymore.

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Speaker 1: Make sure your tattooers can spell.

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Speaker 4: That's always a very very important don't take it look out,

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Speaker 4: I don't.

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Speaker 1: Get those Chinese emblems. Don't do it up there, do

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Speaker 1: it here, do it where it's safe.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're right, don't lock yourself into one name,

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Speaker 2: boyfriend or girl because you've.

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Speaker 1: Got itos no regrets.

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Speaker 3: Quite of the odds. So I think somehow you've got

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Speaker 3: to be in contact with your kids, communicating and say, look,

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Speaker 3: can we discuss it?

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Speaker 1: Just depends on how old the kid is too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like they're old. If they're old enough

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Speaker 2: to do it without your permission, permission or anything, maybe they're

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Speaker 2: old enough that you've got to just look. Because I

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Speaker 2: wasn't allowed to get my ears pierced until I was

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Speaker 2: thirteen thirteen thirteen?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, how old were you, Barrett when you were allowed

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Speaker 4: to get.

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Speaker 1: I got one piece?

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Speaker 3: My friend did it for me.

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Speaker 1: Danger, the danger with a nice block and a needle.

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Speaker 1: The only yeah, the only distractor.

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Speaker 3: The only disclaimer I will have is that if you

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Speaker 3: do win a premiership you can get a tattoo whenever

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Speaker 3: you like.

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Speaker 1: Yes, just get it after the final siren, not before.

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Speaker 3: That helps them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so good.

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Speaker 3: Is this a hard transition because I wanted to talk

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Speaker 3: today about it. I'm not saying I'm super Dad either,

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Speaker 3: by the way, neither you. We don't have all the

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Speaker 3: answers right, and I have balls things up and I

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Speaker 3: did in this circumstance because sadly we lost our family

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Speaker 3: dog this week. Oh yeah, Lily Pug. And there's a

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Speaker 3: lot of emotional long mate, it's a lot of emotional load.

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Speaker 3: Fifteen years I was known as the pugg. I was

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Speaker 3: known as the pug Man of soup. Was because I

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Speaker 3: had three pugs and it was very funny seeing me

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Speaker 3: walk three pugs, you imagine with no neck, so there's

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Speaker 3: a bit of a laugh around the joint. So we've

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Speaker 3: lost all three now, so it's kind of end of

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Speaker 3: an era. And beautiful little pug called Lily fifteen. You know,

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Speaker 3: she's with us during the COVID lockdowns and all all

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Speaker 3: that sort of stuff, part of the furniture. In the end,

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Speaker 3: she had this neurological issue where legs just wouldn't work.

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Speaker 3: So there's no sort of choice about it, but it's

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Speaker 3: always trickies and the vet gently tells you it's time,

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Speaker 3: and you think, am I doing the right thing? And

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Speaker 3: they go, yes, you're doing the right thing, But you

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Speaker 3: never want to make that decision. And that's the thing

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Speaker 3: about dogs. Their only floor is that they don't live

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Speaker 3: long enough.

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Speaker 1: That is their only floor.

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Speaker 3: And I think going in.

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Speaker 2: Fifteen, it's not a bad innings, it's a good innings.

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Speaker 1: But still the longer than around two, the more attached,

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Speaker 1: of course, you become harder it gets.

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Speaker 3: And my daughter's twenty one, so she's had him since

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Speaker 3: she was six. You know, my son's twenty.

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Speaker 2: So sincere's really no life without.

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Speaker 3: No and so I think you have to prepare that,

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Speaker 3: I reckon that's a bit of something I learned, is

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Speaker 3: that you've sort of got to tell them. Look, you know,

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Speaker 3: having a dog, it's the most it's a great many

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Speaker 3: many great great days and then there's going to be

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Speaker 3: one horrible day. Yeah, and I know that's terrible to ye,

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Speaker 3: that's probably not the way you're on a school, But

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Speaker 3: dads have to carry the can sometimes too, because you

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Speaker 3: don't always get the perfect goodbye as well, like for example,

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Speaker 3: with Maddie. She had to work and stuff and it

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Speaker 3: came on us really quickly. So she feels like she

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Speaker 3: didn't get to say goodbye properly. And so you just

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Speaker 3: got to carry that, Russ. If that happens to you,

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Speaker 3: you just go to that.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'll cop that so inevitably it will, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: and not for a long time.

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Speaker 3: I think the things I learned were you don't always

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Speaker 3: get to fix the grief, and you can't make everyone

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Speaker 3: feel better straight away because you know, when you're a

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Speaker 3: dad or you feel like you've just got to fix it.

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Speaker 3: Dad's always want to fix stuff.

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Speaker 2: This isn't on you as a dad, though, This is

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Speaker 2: just this is life. And I think, as you said,

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Speaker 2: there's the awful time that you have, but I think

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Speaker 2: you learn more from that awful time then you don't,

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Speaker 2: do you know what I mean exactly right. It's a

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Speaker 2: tough thing to learn. But in terms of, you know,

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Speaker 2: for life, I think you learn from having and losing

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Speaker 2: an animal.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, well dogs, that's what they do. They teach you.

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Speaker 3: They teach us about love. I'll just say, they teach

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Speaker 3: you about love, and then when they depart, they teach

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Speaker 3: us about loss exactly.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: I grew up on a farm, so I've seen a

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Speaker 4: lot of dogs and go so in a way, I'm

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Speaker 4: kind of prepared. But I don't know that I've ever

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Speaker 4: been as attached as I am to the one that

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Speaker 4: we have.

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Speaker 1: Now, so it's still different.

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Speaker 3: Well for kids, it's probably their first real heartbreak too. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and you know what, that's not a bad thing, because

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Speaker 3: you know when you had your first boyfriend and you

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Speaker 3: thought you loved him forever and then he broke your heart. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: then I think after that it's not as painful.

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Speaker 2: As it well, I mean yeah, I think it's all

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Speaker 2: part of life's learning. I'm so sad he's gone. I'm

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Speaker 2: so sorry to all of you.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know if that was an appropriate chat about,

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Speaker 3: but I just thought there to his most families, YEA,

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Speaker 3: love the dog. They're the greatest, most joyous, magnificent creatures.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely love them. And then we still haven't got one.

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Speaker 2: So are I pay little.

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Speaker 3: Beautif there's so beautiful pugs? No noses?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the little snuffly things. Snor well, Yes, story Friday,

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Speaker 1: we'll talk, We'll talk sport