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Speaker 1: Three sixty with Katie Wolf thanks to Joyce Main Darwin

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Speaker 1: Homes on Stuart Highway, Beerrima.

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Speaker 2: Joining us on the line right now is Colp Senator

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Speaker 2: for the Northern Territory, Doctor Sam McMahon.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, Good morning, Katy, morning to you listeners.

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Speaker 1: Great have you on the show? Senator?

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Speaker 2: Can I ask you first, there's been quite a bit

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Speaker 2: of discussion in recent days about the situation at the

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Speaker 2: Howard Springs quarantine facility and the increased numbers that we

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Speaker 2: are seeing in repatriated Australians, particularly from India, coming back

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Speaker 2: testing COVID positive. We have got twenty four active cases

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Speaker 2: at Howard Springs at the moment, twenty two of which

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Speaker 2: are travelers from India, which is recording two hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty thousand new cases daily. Senator, we know that the

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Speaker 2: Cabinet or the National Cabinet is due to meet later today.

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Speaker 2: Do you think we need to look at either halting

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Speaker 2: these flights from India or at least slowing the number down.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Loo, Katie. This will be something that'll be discussed

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Speaker 3: and there'll be health advice being sought from our chief

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Speaker 3: medical officers on this issue, and no doubt input from

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Speaker 3: Howard Spring's management itself as to how many they can

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Speaker 3: cope with, and their opinion would probably be the one

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Speaker 3: that I would give the most weights to. I'm sure

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Speaker 3: then Nataris will have a very good handle on what's happening,

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Speaker 3: and his opinion of what he can cope with and

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Speaker 3: what the facility can cope with should form the basis

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Speaker 3: of that decision. We need to when we're talking about

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Speaker 3: halting or suspending flights, we just do need to remember

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Speaker 3: that these are actually ousies that are trying to get

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Speaker 3: home and we want to get them home as quickly

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Speaker 3: as we can whilst maintaining our health and our security.

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Speaker 2: We did just catch up with Hospitality into CEO Alex Bruce,

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Speaker 2: and he spoke about the fact that they've got this

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Speaker 2: real shortage at the moment when it comes to workers

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Speaker 2: in hospitality. Also in tourism. We know that it's a

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Speaker 2: similar situation with our farmers. But there was that initiative

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Speaker 1: But he had asked.

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Speaker 2: Whether it would actually be possible if we do see

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Speaker 2: a decrease in the number of flights coming from India.

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Speaker 2: Could we maybe look to fill some of those planes

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Speaker 2: with bringing over workers for those different different sectors that

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Speaker 2: require them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, look, it's a major problem right across the board

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Speaker 3: in the Northern Territory. I get daily calls from people

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Speaker 3: on stations and farms, also from hospitality restaurants, cafes, tourism operators, manufacturers.

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Speaker 3: There's a worker shortage right across almost every industry in

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Speaker 3: the Northern Territory. And yes, look, I would be very

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Speaker 3: happy to be able to bring in more workers. One

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Speaker 3: thing I called for during the week was also to

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Speaker 3: look at bringing in international students and housing them at

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Speaker 3: the Bladon Village Commodotation Complex source of work, particularly for

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Speaker 3: the hospitality industries. We know a lot of university students

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Speaker 3: also be a source of workers. But yes, I would

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Speaker 3: be very supportive of bringing in as many workers as

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Speaker 3: we can.

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Speaker 2: Now. Is this something though, that you actually need to

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Speaker 2: take up with the federal government because the number of

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Speaker 2: international people that were able to bring across is a

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Speaker 2: federal issue, isn't it. Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, And I've written to all the ministers involved. There

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Speaker 3: are quite a few ministers that would be involved in

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Speaker 3: would also need to make that decision in consultation with

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Speaker 3: the NT government because ultimately quarantine is a function of

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Speaker 1: But it's something that you are keen to see happen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, very keen to see happen. You know, we're

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Speaker 3: looking at the collapse of many of our industries if

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Speaker 3: they can't get staff. I was in Alice Springs last

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Speaker 3: weekend and some properties are only operating at twenty five

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Speaker 3: And over the weekend every single room in our springs

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Speaker 2: Well, Senator, I do think that it's something that we're

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Speaker 2: going to have to take a closer look at.

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Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we can't have a situation were we're heading

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Speaker 1: And really, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, for those businesses that have been struggling for quite

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Speaker 1: To get here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. Look, we're saying to people from in the state,

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Speaker 3: you know, come to the Northern Territory, as you know,

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Speaker 3: you and I worked on getting dar and included as

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Speaker 3: a destination with the half priced flights. So we're saying,

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Speaker 3: come to the NT. But then we can't accommodate or

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Speaker 3: fee them. So yeah, it's a really big problem at

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Speaker 3: the moment that we need to get sorted as quickly

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Speaker 1: Senator, let's move along.

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Speaker 2: I do still on the same theme though, and I

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Speaker 2: want to talk about the Howard Springs quarantine facility. We

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Speaker 2: know that it is due on the third of May

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Speaker 2: well to change overhands to some degree. Certainly the international

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Speaker 2: side of things is going to go from the National

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Speaker 2: Critical Care and Trauma Response Center across to NT Health.

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Speaker 2: The Health Minister Natasha Files revealed on the show earlier

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Speaker 2: in the week, we've only got seventy of those four

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Speaker 2: hundred workers required for that facility.

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Speaker 1: Are you worried about this?

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Speaker 3: I'm absolutely worried.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: I spoke out when it was first announced and said

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Speaker 3: that I was concerned that this would be an issue one,

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Speaker 3: I don't think that they will be able to get

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Speaker 3: the four hundred workers that well enough trained and qualified

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Speaker 3: as they need to be to fulfill that role, and

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Speaker 3: that's certainly seeming to be the case. I mean there's

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Speaker 3: reports that they've only got seventy and also handing over

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Speaker 3: the management of a incredibly professional and competent outfit in

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Speaker 3: Lenna Taras and osmad So the Northern Territory Government I

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Speaker 3: was always concerned that this could turn into a disaster,

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Speaker 3: and I think it's very much heading down that path.

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Speaker 1: Well, Senator.

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Speaker 2: The other issue that we have heard quite a bit

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Speaker 2: and that funding for remote policing. I know that you

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Speaker 2: have said that you'll be pushing for that funding to

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Speaker 2: be extended, but there are some caveats there, or certainly

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Speaker 2: some things that you would like the Northern Territory Government

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Speaker 2: to be fulfilling, and one of those is the infrastructure

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Speaker 2: that's associated with those police officers working in various communities.

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Speaker 1: Talk us through what you want to see.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, look, Katie, absolutely I want to see the funding

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Speaker 3: maintained or even increased and I will be fighting very

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Speaker 3: hard for that. But yes, as you've said, I definitely

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Speaker 3: want to see conditions attached to that because there's very

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Speaker 3: little clarity at the moment over how that money actually

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Speaker 3: is spent. We don't know where it's going. Is it

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Speaker 3: going on police officers, It wouldn't seem so because there's

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Speaker 3: a great shortage. Is it going on infrastructure Again, it

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Speaker 3: wouldn't seem so because police accommodation in the bushes is

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Speaker 3: falling down around their ears. So we need to have

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Speaker 3: some oversight and some conditions around how that money is spent.

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Speaker 3: And yes, I've been touring around in the bush and

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Speaker 3: listening to the troops on the ground and one of

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Speaker 3: the really big problems that they have in attracting police

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Speaker 3: to go to bush stations is the deplorable standard of

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Speaker 2: Senator, what has the Minister ken Wyatt said about this

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Speaker 2: issue when you've discussed it with him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, he's aware of the issue. He's very much

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Speaker 3: aware of the fact that pulling out this funding would

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Speaker 3: be a great disserve to the Northern Territory. He would

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Speaker 3: like the Northern Territory government to be able to stand

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Speaker 3: on its own two feet and support and fund itself

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Speaker 3: in this area. But he's also very aware of the

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Speaker 3: fact that they can't and that the damage that pulling

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Speaker 3: this funding would cause. So he's keen to reach an

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Speaker 3: agreement with the Northern Territory Government that will see them

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Speaker 3: funded adequately, but also see them be accountable for the

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Speaker 3: funding they receive.

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Speaker 2: Senator, when are you anticipating that we are going to

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Speaker 2: know exactly how much funding there's going to be over

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Speaker 2: the coming years. When are you anticipating that announcement.

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Speaker 3: Looks that we just added at the beginning of this year,

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Speaker 3: the current funding doesn't run out until the end of

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Speaker 3: June next year, so I would expect, depending on how

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Speaker 3: the negotiations with the Northern Territory Government go, I would

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Speaker 3: expect that to be sort of concluded towards the end

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Speaker 2: All right, well, no doubt we'll we'll talk to you

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Speaker 2: about that again in the near future, Senator for the

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Speaker 2: Northern Territory CLP. Senator for the Northern Territory, Doctor Sam McMahon,

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Speaker 2: good to speak with you this morning.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate your time, no worries.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Katie always a pleasure.

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Speaker 1: Thank you,