1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: Dowered by the radio WAB from ninety six air FM 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: to whereever you're listening today This is Crazy and Lisa's 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 1: podcast coming up. 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 2: On the podcast today, we take your calls on the 5 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,239 Speaker 2: Worst Place and time to break down in your car. 6 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 3: Paul Goldman joined us the director of Ego The Michael 7 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 3: Gitinsky Story. 8 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 2: For the last time this season. We chat to our 9 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 2: doctor Hayden Young. 10 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 3: And the resolution to that chess cheating scandal. Check Mael 11 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 3: Hey least had an appointment my In fact, my wife 12 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 3: Florrie had an appointment yesterday, so I said I'll drop 13 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 3: you off because it was an eye appointment. So I said, 14 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 3: I'll drop you off and I'll go and park somewhere. 15 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 3: And I went to a lovely park. I'm sure you know, 16 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,319 Speaker 3: the one in the middle of Shendon Park with the lake. 17 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 3: Oh my godness, beautiful in a sunny day like that 18 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 3: is one of the most beautiful spots in Perth. 19 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: It is nice. 20 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 3: So I spent a bit of time there. I was 21 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:46,639 Speaker 3: done a bit of reading and went for. 22 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 2: A bit of a war How fortuitous lucky. But Lorrie's 23 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 2: doctor was around there. 24 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, she was at Charlie, so. 25 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 2: It'd have been at a sandbank somewhere, you. 26 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 3: Have been somewhere hideous. It was beautiful. So after and 27 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 3: she kept tending messag is I'm really sorry, and I'm 28 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 3: not sorry. I'm sitting in this park, in the middle 29 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:07,479 Speaker 3: of Sheenton Park. That's magnificent. Anyway, about half an hour 30 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 3: into my weight, I'm in the car and I'm looking 31 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 3: at my phone or something. I put the window down. 32 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,199 Speaker 3: All of a sudden, I hear a string eating something. 33 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 3: No doubt, of course, I've everything fleeting the seats and 34 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 3: I hear this. A couple of weird noises come out 35 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 3: of my car. I'm going, what's that weird noise? And 36 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 3: then it goes quiet. This weird noise again. I'll think 37 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 3: about got a like a mouse or something in the 38 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 3: engine cavity. Anyway, so all of a sudden, I didn't 39 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 3: have the car. I had the car turned on, just 40 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 3: put windows up and down, that was all. And I 41 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 3: look across my windscreen. Wipers start crip walking across the windscreen, 42 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 3: like crippiping. It was the sea dance across my windscreen. 43 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 3: What's going on? 44 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 4: Right? 45 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 3: Then a couple of light star flashing and then my 46 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 3: instrumentation goes I'm thinking, I'm Daniel Ricardo in the car 47 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 3: in the cockpit going the lights start flashing and all 48 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 3: the rest of it. Oh, we have a major meltdown 49 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 3: this car right now. And as we touched it, as 50 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 3: we do, it's a couple of years old, so it's 51 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 3: driven by computers and all the rest of it. I 52 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 3: think leadia and gentlemen, we have a problem. Forget about 53 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 3: yoused to. So I think it's electrical and it might 54 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 3: be the battery. So I ring the ra se. Laurie's 55 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 3: still sending me messages saying I'm sorry. Isn't no worries? 56 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 3: Take them away? Not going anywhere many doc take his time. Yeah, 57 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 3: because the car is not working because it wouldn't start, 58 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 3: it wouldn't do anything. Rac just happened to be in 59 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 3: the next suburb. He's in Subie, so. 60 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 2: He was also enjoying a nice lakeside was lunch. 61 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 3: Was in sub and the next tu it. So he 62 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 3: comes over. I got the bonnet up and the rest 63 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 3: of it. And because I'm practically a mechanic, and this 64 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 3: guy goes, I'm going to test your back. You know 65 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:43,679 Speaker 3: where that is the lever? That's all I know. He 66 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 3: tests the battery, goes, Oh, your battery should be two 67 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 3: point nine absidence down to nine. That's so he starts 68 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 3: changing it up for me, and then he goes, I'd 69 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 3: leave it running for about the next forty five minutes. 70 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 3: You'll be sweet. His battery is obviously a good battery. 71 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 3: It's all good. And I thought to myself that was 72 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 3: the most convenient rac call breakdown situation in the history 73 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 3: of breakdowns, because it didn't matter, because if. 74 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,399 Speaker 2: You're already parked up, you're in a nice spot. Ten 75 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 2: minutes after the power was going again, the guy was 76 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 2: around the corner. Sorry, text me, he said, I'm finished. 77 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 2: It was perfect that it never happened. Literally gave you 78 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 2: something to do while you were waiting. 79 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 3: Least it was glass half full. And when life's good, 80 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 3: when it's glass half full. 81 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 2: But it's not always like that. 82 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 3: What's the worst place and time for you to have 83 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 3: it to break down? And you can't because you must have. 84 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 3: Everyone's got a story. 85 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 2: Between three and six, Between three thirty and six. 86 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, middle of summer. 87 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,559 Speaker 2: Middle of summer on a major roads. 88 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 3: Good pick up or whatever it might be. The lights, Oh, 89 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 3: is it happened? 90 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 2: No, it has not. 91 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 3: Could you imagine it is. 92 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 2: I drive with that underlying nightmass stressful. I've always it's 93 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 2: just always in the back of my head. 94 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, what's worth a forty one degree day or belting? 95 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: Right? 96 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 2: How many times will I've put what I've pulled up 97 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 2: a lights in my life? Six hundred kajillion, many, many times? 98 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 2: Every time there's just a little flicker. Yeah, please please 99 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,839 Speaker 2: don't conquer. And it's not only inconvenient, it's so embarrassing. Well, 100 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 2: that's it, isn't it. It'll be the worst. Linda in 101 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 2: South Lake Where and when was it? 102 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 5: It was a really hot day one day and I 103 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 5: decided to take my dog down the dog beach that's 104 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 5: Bence And on the way home he had a ball. 105 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 5: He's loved it in the water. I got called down. 106 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 5: It was great. On my home, the car overheated and 107 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 5: the worst thing was Ben starts vomiting. I think he 108 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 5: had had too much salt water. Was vomiting and vomiting 109 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 5: and vummitting, and I was waiting for the roc and 110 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 5: it was the absolute worst. 111 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 3: How stressful on many counts, that's horrimonal. 112 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, I couldn't let the dog out. 113 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 6: It was awful. 114 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 2: Oh gosh, you have not a good time, not a 115 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 2: good place, and not a good day for the dog. 116 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 2: Well start the trip to the beach. 117 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 5: He was afterwards, good. 118 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 2: Ro Hello, Hi, how are you good? Where was it 119 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 2: I was? 120 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 7: It was about forty years ago and I was eighteen, 121 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 7: and my brother asked me to take him somewhere because 122 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 7: he had an operation on his leg. And I was 123 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 7: in my pajamas and my mom said, don't go out 124 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:14,799 Speaker 7: in your pajamas. 125 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 2: But anyway, first red flag. 126 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 7: So first of all, we broke down in the middle 127 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 7: of Canning Highway and someone man yes, and then. 128 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 3: Dropped him off. 129 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 7: On the way back, I broke down outside the local 130 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 7: church and. 131 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah. There was something wrong with the. 132 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 7: Car and I couldn't get out, and then everyone was 133 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 7: coming out. It was like a youth group and they 134 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 7: were saying are you okay, and I was saying, yeah, 135 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 7: I can't get her. And then my mom drove past 136 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 7: because she knew that, you know, something was going on, 137 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 7: and she said, there you are. 138 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 2: I told you not to go out. 139 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 7: In your pajamas and yes, and sadly I still go 140 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 7: out in my pajamas. 141 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 3: I didn't learn with. 142 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 2: A more trustworthy cart, yeah, and a phone the phone, exactly, 143 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 2: bring me some doesn't matter clothes mechanic. 144 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 3: There was a time of parents that don't go and 145 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 3: your pajamas will make sure you got clean underwear just 146 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 3: in case. 147 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 2: Well, exactly like your wife, friends are going to save you. 148 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 2: I would say pajamas are a lot more stylish these days, 149 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 2: and I've seen worse. Um, yeah, thanks, roads, thank you. 150 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 3: Yes, Look, Peter Alexander, you've been addressing a lot. 151 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 2: Of people there exactly, Alan in Kelm's gone, Hello, Hello, 152 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 2: how are we good? What's yours? Worst place in time 153 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 2: you've broken down? 154 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 6: In this case, it was actually Als, the passenger for 155 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 6: my mum's car. It's year eight. I'm in year eight, 156 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 6: nineteen ninety one going to school, ran out right in 157 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 6: front of concerts in your high school. She breaks down 158 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 6: right dead center to get out Oho thirthday tried two 159 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 6: days in a row, really now days. By the third day, 160 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 6: my brothers and I all ter. I said, Mum, well 161 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 6: before drop us off, we'll walk through the way. If 162 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 6: you break down, we don't know, we're not going anywhere 163 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 6: near you. And she did? You broake down three days 164 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 6: in a row. Everyone else pushed up. We didn't know 165 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 6: what we didn't. 166 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 3: Well done, well done, good decisions. The way you said fair. 167 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 2: Enough, you gave it, you gave it. 168 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 3: A fair warning, you did. 169 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, we did, indeed, and you got rid of the car. 170 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 6: She replaced it with another can. The same guard did 171 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 6: the same thing. 172 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 3: Break she was jined. 173 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 6: Jinks and she's chinks. It's like, what the heck? Even 174 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 6: when I rode through my car and don't break down. 175 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 3: And the way you tell the stories like it happened yesterday, 176 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 3: mate ninety one. 177 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 6: I remember it like yesterday. I was right, it was 178 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 6: only one. It was not far away. I'm not that old. 179 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 2: A dressing gown on. It could have been even worse. 180 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 3: Something in her hair rollers. 181 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 6: I don't know what mam was wearing us to embarrass. 182 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, yeah, I still remember it. Ye, that's embarrassing. 183 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 3: Anything's embarrassing in you. 184 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 6: Just to live absolutely and then Renfred still remind me, 185 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 6: remind men. 186 00:07:55,680 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 2: Thanks God, Yeah, more more Lisa, More podcasts soon Ego 187 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 2: The Michael Godinsky Stories in cinemas tomorrow. The director of 188 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 2: the film, Paul Goldman's joining us now. Good morning, Paul, Paul, welcome, 189 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 2: Good morning. So Michael Gandinsky, let's talk about the title 190 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 2: of the documentary ego it really wasn't a dirty word. 191 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 2: Where Michael was a concern, But he was a complicated, 192 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 2: complex character, wasn't he. 193 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 4: Michael was a bit of a conundrum. But the public 194 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 4: persona was this big, loud, brash, rude, arrogant guy who 195 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 4: you'd always have a lot of fun with. 196 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but he could I mean, and people loved him, 197 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 2: but he could rub him up the wrong way at 198 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 2: the same time. I guess you could love him and 199 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 2: hate him in the same week if you knew him well, 200 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 2: like you would. 201 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 4: Have in the same minute. 202 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 3: Michael Melbourne seasons Hey yeah, yeah, yes, had Paul. He 203 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 3: had an incredible energy. He very rarely stood still or 204 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 3: sat still. I remember sharing a box with him at there. 205 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 3: He got some radio people a box at the edge 206 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 3: hearing concert the first gig at opp the Stadium, and 207 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 3: he was with us, but he wasn't because he had 208 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,079 Speaker 3: so much going on. But he had a band it 209 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 3: looked like a bandage or a piece of tape around 210 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 3: his hand and it said something like behave on it. 211 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 3: It was a reminder for him to look after himself 212 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 3: that night and behave. Like I said, he was quite complex, 213 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 3: and that energy was it was hard to miss. 214 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 4: Michael was in perpetual motion. I think he lived five 215 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 4: lifetimes same in eight years. I went out to dinner 216 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 4: with him once and he got up from the table, 217 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 4: but I and others were at and then he cruised 218 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 4: over to another table and sat down with them. Then 219 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 4: he got up and cruised for another table and sat 220 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 4: down with that. You couldn't pin Michael down. 221 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 2: And he could do that the world over. I mean, 222 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 2: there were so many people that you had to narrow 223 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 2: down a group of to speak in this film about Michael. 224 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,839 Speaker 2: How did you decide who to include? I mean you've 225 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 2: included people like Bruce Springsteen, Billy Joel, Kylie Minogue, Jimmy Barnes. 226 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 2: Of course. 227 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 6: Yeah. 228 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 4: Well, I think people probably in Australia don't. I mean, 229 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 4: Michael is an impresario and a promoter who owned a 230 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 4: record company. So even though he loved the limelight and 231 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 4: loved the camera, you know, he was always out promoting artists. 232 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 4: I think people in Australia probably don't realize how well 233 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 4: loved and known he was overseas as well. I mean 234 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 4: we could have spoken to any number of people. The 235 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 4: only thing that stood in our way was time and 236 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 4: their availability. I mean everyone from Taylor, Swift and Madonna 237 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 4: were quite happy to talk. Was just about how we 238 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 4: could get to them. Michael was loved everywhere. 239 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, particularly and Sheering. In recent years he helped with 240 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 3: those incredible record breaking tours, which was mind blowing. But 241 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 3: what about your first meeting with the man himself? What 242 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 3: was that like? Do you recall it? Well? 243 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 4: I was a humble film school student who made a 244 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 4: music video for Nick Cave's first band, the Boys next Door, 245 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 4: who were good friends of mine, and Michael had heard 246 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 4: from the band's management that I'd done that and demanded 247 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 4: that I'd come in and see and demanded that he 248 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 4: would use the video on his show Night Moves. 249 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 3: Wow. 250 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 4: He pointed out that, in fact, we didn't own it. 251 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 4: The collage own and Michael said, well, bad luck, and 252 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 4: the rest is history. I've done a lot of work 253 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 4: with Michael over the years. We've had a very fractious, 254 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 4: turbulent relationship. 255 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, be the only one I'm sure to describe it 256 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 2: as such. The soundtrack of the movie, I imagine big 257 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 2: important character of it. 258 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 4: Yes, So I think the film is a love letter 259 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 4: to the Australian music industry, so obviously the music plays 260 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 4: an enormous part in it. The best place to see 261 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 4: the film is actually in the cinema because we've turned 262 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 4: it up loud. It's raucus. I mean, Michael was behind 263 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 4: and nurtured and signed and so many iconic artists and 264 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 4: was behind so many classic records. So from Skyhook's The 265 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 4: Split ends to Jimmy Barnes to Kylie Minogue and you'll 266 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 4: even hear some international artists there as well, whom Michael 267 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 4: was very very personally involved with and behind their touring 268 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 4: of Australia. 269 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 2: He directed the video clip for The Better the Devil 270 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 2: You know by Kyli Meno, didn't you? That would have 271 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 2: been one of your earlier meetings with Michael. I suppose 272 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 2: nineteen ninety. You probably go back than. 273 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 4: That, Yes I did. I always say that's not the 274 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 4: best music video Kylie made, by her mission, it's the 275 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 4: most important one. It's the one that kind of changed everything. 276 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 4: It's the world to move from the girl next door, 277 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 4: that's right. 278 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, some blame us. 279 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 2: And when she hooked up with your mate Nick Cave, 280 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 2: that's when I really thought, well. 281 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 4: Hang on, I think that was mutually beneficial. 282 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt, Yeah, no doubt whatsoever. Yes, for sure, Yeah, absolutely, 283 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 3: And I guess there was no unless it brought up 284 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 3: the ego title, it was never going to be. I 285 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 3: should be so lucky for this one. Michael was very 286 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 3: supportive of Kylie. 287 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 4: No, we we toyed with calling it. Most people I 288 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:35,839 Speaker 4: know thinks that I'm crazy. 289 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, save that one. Save Paul for the 290 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 2: next to the next project. Well, it's in the ego, 291 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 2: the Michael Gitinski story. He really was the Mench's in 292 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:51,439 Speaker 2: cinemas tomorrow. Well, thank you so much for joining us. 293 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 4: Pleasure go out and see it. 294 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 3: Well, see, we still can't believe sometimes I go, oh, 295 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 3: that's what he's no longer with us. 296 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 2: Left his legacy, that specially. 297 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 4: Where he was pulling the relievers in the streams well 298 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 4: beyond the grave. 299 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 3: Well, so absolutely, thanks for so Fie. Thank you. Betty 300 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 3: was Oh you could imagine and of some of the 301 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 3: deals and things that have been done and things have been. 302 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 2: Said, they come off shelves, Like if Paul's thinking, I 303 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 2: think I'll do this this way, and something will just fall. 304 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 3: Off the shell. 305 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. 306 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 3: The dead comes back and grabs the keys. 307 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 2: Remember the chess guy with his anal beads. Yes, he's 308 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 2: in the clear. He's sitting pretty now. Chess grand Master 309 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 2: Chess Grandmaster Hans Niemann has officially been cleared of outrageous 310 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 2: allegations that he'd used vibrating anal beads to cheat hands, 311 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 2: and two top rivals have resolved their legal dispute on 312 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 2: the controversy outside of court. A chess prodigy at just 313 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 2: twenty hands sued Norway's Magnus Caulson, currently the world's top 314 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 2: break chess player, and another highly raged player, Hekuru Nakamura, 315 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 2: for defamation. He wanted an eye water one hundred million 316 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 2: dollars in a lawsuit which claimed that Nakamura and Carlson 317 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 2: had ruined his career with allegations that he had cheated 318 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 2: in ranked matches, one theory being that he'd used vibrating 319 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 2: anal beads that were being controlled by chess accomplices watching remotely. 320 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 2: I think I saw this in an infomercials to something 321 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 2: how bizarre so remote guys are watching him play? Take 322 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 2: the Bishop wasn't up there? Vibrating Bishop hands was highly indignant, 323 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 2: as you would be at the allegation, saying I'll play naked. 324 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 2: If you like. You want me to play you with 325 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 2: a strip, fully naked, I'll do it. I don't care 326 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 2: because I know I'm clean and I'm willing to subject 327 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 2: myself to what you want me to play. But a 328 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 2: week later, Carlson refused to play against Neman in an 329 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 2: online match, instead opting to resign in one move. I 330 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 2: guess so when you flick your king, take it, take 331 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 2: my bishop, take my take it all. Then Nieman claimed 332 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 2: that Carlson paid another grandmaster who knew all this was 333 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 2: going on at chess matches, three hundred euros to shout 334 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 2: Cheeta hands heads, but books the days Chitta haads from 335 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 2: a public balcony during the tournament. You know, it's all 336 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 2: very quiet at a. 337 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 3: Chess tournament, Yeah apparently. 338 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 2: So when someone yells cheetaheads, it's going to stand out. 339 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely so. 340 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 2: The scandal rocked the chess world, but now it's finally 341 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 2: been resolved with the out of court settlement. Although Carlson 342 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 2: and Nakamura don't sound too thrilled at the prospect of 343 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 2: playing Hans anytime in the future. Carlson frostily said and 344 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 2: you know, a frosty comment from a chess master. He is, 345 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 2: by any one's standards, real Steve, He said, I acknowledge 346 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 2: the decision that there is no determinative evidence that Neman cheated. 347 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 2: I'm willing to play Neman in future events. Should we 348 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 2: be paired together. 349 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 4: To watch. 350 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 2: Or maybe off? 351 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 3: I don't know. 352 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 4: More Clezy more Lisa More podcasts soon. 353 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 3: Ninety six as a freemantle Dogger Hayden Young for first 354 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 3: Window and Door Replacement Company. 355 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 7: Give your Home and New Lisa on life with Perth 356 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 7: Window and Door Replacement Company, the number one name in 357 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 7: the game to book your free quote Surge Perth Window 358 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 7: and Door. 359 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 2: Compleet with fresh end of season haircuts. Yes, Hayden is 360 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 2: with us. Good morning, good morning. 361 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 3: Nice do mate. Well, I like it very much. Is 362 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 3: that a bit of a tradition for you? What's going on? 363 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 8: Yeah? It is. Yeah, I'm straight after the season, I'll 364 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 8: cut my hair because in season it needs to be 365 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 8: at a certain length that I can tie it up 366 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 8: in a bun. It's a bit too short, it's a nuisance. 367 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 8: So yeah, yeah, as soon as the season's uns chop 368 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 8: it off. 369 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. So when you see the blokes running around with 370 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 3: the long mullets. You must go, what are you doing? 371 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 3: Someone can grab that. 372 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't know how I do it. I 373 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: remember behind. 374 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 8: To try like a headband and oh yeah, yeah, I 375 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 8: don't know how players do that because that comes off 376 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 8: so easily and and your hair. 377 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: Is still sort of flapping around and it's. 378 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 3: More of a distraction than any It's got to go. 379 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 2: So beat Hawthorne by thirty seven points, very healthy beating 380 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 2: at the MCG on Saturday. A positive way to win 381 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 2: the season, Yeah. 382 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: It was. It was. 383 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 8: It's always nice to finish with the win. And it's 384 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 8: always a weird feeling when you finish with a win 385 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 8: but your season's over and you're sort of it's a 386 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 8: bit bittersweet, I suppose, but it was nice to finish 387 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 8: that way. And I suppose our last sort of six 388 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 8: six weeks we were playing some pretty consistent footing and 389 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 8: it was good to tie it off with a win. 390 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 8: And yeah, although our season wasn't as successfuls we would 391 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 8: have liked, we feel like our back end of the 392 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 8: year we started to sow some promising signs and that's 393 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 8: something we spoke about when when finals was probably out 394 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 8: of the pitch. We wanted to make sure that we 395 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 8: finished the season well and although we're not playing finals 396 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 8: this year, finishing this season well could potentially lead on 397 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 8: to it playing good footing next year and start creating 398 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 8: some really good habits. And yeah, I think we're pleased 399 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 8: with the way we finished our season, and yeah, it 400 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 8: was nice to get a win. 401 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, a big part of those wins. But I've got 402 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 3: a couple of stats from the forward line and the 403 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 3: late in the season. So against Hawthorne fourteen goals with 404 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 3: nine goal kickers, the Eagles twenty goals for ten and 405 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 3: a low scoring game against your Long ten goals for 406 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 3: seven goal kickers. You've got that spread of goalkickcause it 407 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 3: really helps themn't it before they really come together? 408 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: I think so, yeah, we are. 409 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 8: It's a young, developing forward line, but we've got a 410 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 8: lot of threats down there, and that's something that the 411 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 8: forwards speak about a lot, is they want to all 412 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 8: be threats and yeah, I suppose going forward and we've 413 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 8: got multiple options to kick too, it makes it really 414 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 8: hard to defend. So yeah, have started to work together 415 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 8: really well on the back end of the year, and yeah, 416 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:05,199 Speaker 8: it's what we want to keep building on. 417 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: Well. 418 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 2: Jiamos became the youngest Docker to kick more than forty 419 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 2: goals in a season forty one groups. So he's a 420 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 2: real fun for the forward he is. 421 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:17,439 Speaker 8: Yeah, he's been outstanding this year and yeah, he just 422 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 8: keeps going from strength to strength. We always knew he 423 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 8: was going to be a good player, and yeah, it's 424 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 8: great to see him, Yeah, really take off this year 425 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 8: and kick forty goals and it's only the beginning for 426 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 8: him and we're really looking forward to what he can 427 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 8: do in the future. 428 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 3: At a big year for you man, a bit of 429 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 3: change with a bit more time in some time in midfield. 430 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 3: Has it felt for you? And how's that differing role 431 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 3: been because you've been back in the back line a 432 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:39,360 Speaker 3: bit as well. 433 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,360 Speaker 1: Yeah it was. It was really exciting. I love the challenge. 434 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 1: I think it was. 435 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 8: It was quite refreshing heading into the back of the 436 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 8: year because it's it is a long season, and yeah, 437 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,360 Speaker 8: it's sort of finished the year in a new role 438 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 8: meant that I was coming in to work sort of 439 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 8: reinvigorated and had a bit of more purpose and really 440 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 8: wanted to learn. And yeah, it was great. It was 441 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 8: really exciting and I feel like, yeah, I really enjoyed 442 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 8: my time in there and felt like I added something 443 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 8: to the midfield group and hopefully I can continue to 444 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 8: learn my craft and continues to support those mids. 445 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 2: Actually, you find it really refreshing to hear you say 446 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 2: how pleased you are with the way the season ended 447 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 2: for the docors and everything, because so many players they like, 448 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 2: if you don't win the Grand fun or you know, 449 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 2: you lost, And I've always thought that's a really weird 450 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 2: way to look at things. But three Docors have been 451 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 2: named in the extend at All Australian squad, Caleb Sarrong, 452 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 2: Lukran and Luke Jackson. Sarong also won the Herald Sons 453 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 2: Player of the Year award. So there is so much 454 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 2: to celebrate at the club. 455 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 3: There is. 456 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 8: Yeah, we've had some outstanding performers this year. Those three 457 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 8: players are certainly the top of the list there. But yeah, 458 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 8: I think, as you said, although we're not playing a 459 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 8: Grand Final this year. 460 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 2: Sometimes success or as seventeen others. 461 00:21:56,280 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly, and sometimes success isn't linear, and yeah, it's 462 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,640 Speaker 8: not always going to be smooth, Salien. We've got to, yeah, 463 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 8: take a few bumps to go forward. But yeah, we 464 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 8: feel like the club's in a really strong position where 465 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 8: we are a young team with third youngest team in 466 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 8: the camp, and we feel like I'm in a really 467 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 8: strong position led by some of those players that you 468 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 8: just mentioned. 469 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 2: We meant sixteen others. Maths is hard. 470 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 3: It's going to be at nineteen teens. We ever got 471 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:27,360 Speaker 3: any time, We'll get your advocate please, I had said, 472 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,360 Speaker 3: I mean last year, was it fifteen fifteen half wins? 473 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 3: You got to Jordan wed last year. So it is disappointing, 474 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 3: but it's very rare to finish fourteenth with ten wins, 475 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 3: isn't it. It's such an even year with all those 476 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 3: teams that a lot of them missing out. 477 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it just goes to. 478 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 8: Show that the competitions in a really good spot and 479 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 8: every week it's hard to win. We've seen even some 480 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 8: big upsets in the last sort of a couple of weeks, 481 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:49,360 Speaker 8: Hawthorne winning against Collingwood. 482 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Eagles beating the Bullies. 483 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. 484 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 8: So anything's possible, and I suppose it's great for the game, 485 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 8: and it just means that you've got to be sharp 486 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 8: every week and you've got to be playing consistent footing, 487 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 8: which is always the challenge and something that we probably 488 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 8: didn't do too well this year. 489 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:04,360 Speaker 1: We were a little bit up. 490 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 8: And down and our good was really good, but our 491 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 8: bad was not good enough. So yeah, that's the challenge 492 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 8: going forward. But yeah, it is good for the competition. 493 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 2: It's mad Monday still a thing because you look terribly 494 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 2: fresh for the you know, the Wednesday after a Monday, 495 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 2: after the end of your season. 496 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 8: I've had a few days to rest and recover, but 497 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 8: our Peel boys are still playing waffle footy, so sort 498 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 8: of we've we've held off a little bit on that 499 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 8: sort of front because we want to be very inclusive. 500 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 8: But we had a function after the game on Saturday 501 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 8: which parents and families and friends were able to come 502 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 8: along to that, and that that was a nice way 503 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 8: to sort of finish off the year and enjoy everyone's company. 504 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:43,679 Speaker 3: It must have also been nice to have a win 505 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 3: on the gm Mate, as you were saying, so many 506 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 3: of the boys haven't played there or played a few 507 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 3: games there. Have a win on the gm AUG as 508 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:49,360 Speaker 3: well for. 509 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:50,360 Speaker 1: The future exactly. 510 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 8: Yeah, and we spoke about if we want to be 511 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 8: there on the last day in September, you got to 512 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 8: play well on that ground and it was great experience 513 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 8: for our team. 514 00:23:58,400 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: There was a few boys that haven't played there before. 515 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 8: N It is a good ground player and it's one 516 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 8: of my favorites. 517 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 1: And yeah, it's always nice to win there aug as well. 518 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 2: Mister clear, that's some fascy home fantcy syntax to it. 519 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,439 Speaker 2: So what do you think the team will focus on 520 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 2: during the off season. 521 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: A few things. 522 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 8: There's a few things in our game that we'll probably 523 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 8: have to tidy up, and I think a lot of 524 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 8: those things will sort of go through in the next 525 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 8: few days and we have our exit meetings and we'll 526 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 8: be giving feedback and Jail will present his final team 527 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 8: meeting and clear some things up for us. But I 528 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 8: think one thing that has probably stood out this year 529 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 8: is out our inability to capitalize on sort of momentum 530 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 8: when we're got the ball going forward and our forward 531 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 8: fifty entries. And yeah, there's been there's been games where 532 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 8: we've well, I think in the last six weeks we 533 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 8: won the inside fifty count every week, but we weren't 534 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 8: winning a lot of those games, and it's probably be 535 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 8: an issue for us. We create a lot of opportunities 536 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 8: for ourselves and we're just unable to tie off our work. Yeah, 537 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,880 Speaker 8: hit the scoreboard really, So we got to keep working 538 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 8: on our cohesion going forward and giving our forwards the 539 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 8: best chance the mark the ball and have shots on goal. 540 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 8: And I feel like that way we'll be able to 541 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 8: kick more goals and win more games and then we'll 542 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 8: be laughing. But yeah, that's something that will certainly work 543 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 8: on a lot. But I think the main thing that 544 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 8: we want to keep focusing on is what makes us 545 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 8: a good team, and that's our contest and our team 546 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 8: d and that's one thing that well, they are the 547 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,439 Speaker 8: two things that we felt like we got right in 548 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,679 Speaker 8: the back end of the year. We felt like we 549 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 8: got back to being a really tough football team that 550 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 8: were hard in the contest and hard to play against. 551 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 8: And then our team days what I know holds us 552 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 8: a really good statu enables us to keep the ball 553 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 8: on our front half and stops oppositions scoring against us, 554 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 8: and it's been a strength for a while for us. 555 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: So we need to keep valuing those two things. 556 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 8: And if we can just tie off our work going 557 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 8: forward and get more bang for buck, then will be 558 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 8: much better team. 559 00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 2: I believe that justin Loanio has a strongly encourage players 560 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 2: to watch as much of the finals series as possible. 561 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 2: Is that is this thinking there because it makes you 562 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 2: just really want it next year, like we I want that? 563 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, potentially. 564 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 8: I think the other thing as well is Final foot 565 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 8: is different brand of footing and much higher tempo and 566 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 8: great pressure. You sort of see the good players stand 567 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 8: up in Finals footy because they're the ones that can 568 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 8: deal with those high pressure situations. So I think that'll 569 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 8: be a little bit part of it. I remember well, 570 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 8: I remember last year when we played finals. That was 571 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 8: sort of the learning we took out of it. It was like, Okay, 572 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 8: this is this is the level, this is what we 573 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 8: need to get to, and I think we wanted to 574 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 8: our young players to be watching that and trying to 575 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 8: understand what the level is. 576 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a point about midseason I reckon it 577 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 3: was the Essendon game. Ad optis and the season things change, 578 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 3: things click for Liam Henry, He's played some great footing 579 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 3: and got the ball a hell of a lot since then, 580 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 3: and given the opportunity week after week and get getting 581 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 3: the role and for some consistency, Are you confident he's 582 00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 3: going to stay with the club. 583 00:26:58,880 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: Yeah? I certainly hope. 584 00:26:59,800 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 8: So. 585 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: I think he's formed in the back half of. 586 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 8: The year, has been outstanding and he's become a really 587 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 8: important player for us, And yeah, we have a lot 588 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 8: of trust on game day that he's going to go 589 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 8: out there and execute his role. And that's something that 590 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 8: he's developed over yeah, this season, is that. Yeah, he's 591 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 8: one of those players that you know what you're going 592 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 8: to get from him, and he's been really important for us, 593 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 8: So we certainly hope he stays. 594 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 2: All right, Well, can we get your predictions please? Who's 595 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 2: going to win the dog Medal? 596 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: Caleb Saran will win the dog Medal? I think. 597 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 8: I think he's obviously had an outstanding career, led the 598 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 8: league in disposals, and he's a leader of our football club, 599 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 8: and yeah, he's I reckon, He's a clear standout for. 600 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 2: Me, super consistent player with the here. Who's going to 601 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 2: win the Brown Low. 602 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 1: Brown Low? 603 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 8: I think it will be potentially Marcus Sponson Pali, followed 604 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 8: closely by Class. 605 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: I think it will be close. 606 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 8: I think Nico will have a good lead, but yeah, 607 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 8: unfortunately ran out of games. 608 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 2: Which two teams will play in the Grand Final and 609 00:27:58,560 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 2: who will win? 610 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 3: It's a tough year, isn't it. 611 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:08,719 Speaker 8: I think Collingwood and Brisbane the two best teams. I 612 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 8: think they will be in the Grand Final and I 613 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 8: think colling Wood will win. 614 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 3: And there could be a surprise one that comes out 615 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 3: of those. You know, one of those years, isn't it. 616 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 1: It's a beauty about finals foot You just never know. 617 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 3: Absolutely. Jenny from PALMELI wants to know what team do 618 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 3: you is? You said it a couple of times this morning. 619 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:27,239 Speaker 3: D Yeah, that's a great question. Team defense, so our 620 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 3: ability to defend the ground very good. And but you 621 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 3: want to get a lot of people down for the 622 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 3: a f l W because it's a Derby to kick 623 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,360 Speaker 3: off the season. It is on Sunday for Furtherursday. 624 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 1: How good? 625 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 6: How good? Yeah? 626 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 8: The AFIW girls have been it's been a long pre 627 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 8: season for him and they've been working super hard and 628 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 8: it's been it's been amazing really to watch them come 629 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 8: in throughout their off season and continue to stay in 630 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 8: good shape and prepare for the upcoming season. And we're 631 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 8: really looking forward to getting behind them. And yeah, what 632 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 8: a better way to stay after you than a Derby. 633 00:28:59,280 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 3: New coach as well? 634 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: All the best, all the best. 635 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 2: Well, we have loved having you come in every Wednesday 636 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 2: this year. We hope to see you again soon. Have 637 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 2: a fantastic off season season, Christmas and everything break great break. 638 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: Thank you Appiado. 639 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 3: We got run before you know it, but I don't. 640 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: Bring it up. 641 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 3: Sorry too late, The Sure Report on ninety six AIRFM. 642 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 2: A writer on the early naughties TV show Desperate Housewives 643 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 2: is opening up about what it was like to work 644 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 2: on the hit series, and it doesn't sound ideal. In 645 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 2: her new book end credits, How I Broke Up with Hollywood, 646 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 2: Patty Lynne recalled that writers were never welcome on set 647 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 2: and had to be especially careful around leading lady Terry Hatcher. 648 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 2: She says they only ever saw the cast at table 649 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 2: reads and had to avoid direct eye contact with Hatcher. 650 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 2: This woman also wrote for Friends, and she didn't like 651 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 2: any of them either. She says if the cast didn't 652 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 2: like the jokes she wrote, that pretty much either flubbed 653 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 2: the line or just not so at all. Her books 654 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 2: out today can't say I'm exactly rushing out to grab it. 655 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 2: You can get your hands on Iron Man's mask, as 656 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 2: worn by Robert Downey Junior at Julienne's Auction's next Hollywood 657 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 2: Memorabilia Auction five one lotto. This would be my thing 658 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 2: I collect. That's a good piece. It's just Hollywood memory. Yeah, 659 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 2: that would be my Blurge collections. 660 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 3: Oh okay, yeah, Bloody Starters Conversation Room. Yeah. Cool. 661 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 2: Princess Leia's slave costume that she wore in the Return 662 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 2: of the Jedi is also going under the hammer, and 663 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 2: so is a one of a kind production made and 664 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 2: used xenomorph head from the Alien Movies. The three day 665 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 2: online auction kicks off next Wednesday. The Deal, the popular 666 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 2: game show Deal or No Deal, is set to return 667 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 2: to US screens, but not on Channel seven. It looks 668 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 2: like it's going to be on Channel ten and they're 669 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 2: likely to announce it at their annual event that they 670 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 2: announce all their new shows later this year. And if 671 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 2: you enjoyed that bing series The Idol with Lily Rose, 672 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 2: Depth the Weekend and pers Veri owned Troy Savanna in it, 673 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 2: don't be holding your breath for season two. It's been 674 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 2: canceled after just one season. The show certainly caused a stir, 675 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 2: but not necessarily for all the right reasons. Provocative or 676 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 2: borderline porn. The jury is still out. I still haven't 677 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 2: watched it. Okay, reason anyone, anyone around here, watch Senate. 678 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 2: That's the time right there, and deal an ideal. Any 679 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 2: word of a host is going to be Roger Corsa. 680 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 3: Roger would be all right, okay, would he? 681 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 2: Yea with some suitcases for that. 682 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 3: And he's got better here too. 683 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Lisa