Speaker 1: This is Outspoken. The podcast is not afraid to say
Speaker 1: exactly what you're thinking. Our names are Amy Kate and
Speaker 1: Sophie Torbor. We're identical triplets, but we often don't have
Speaker 1: identical opinions, so sometimes things can get heated. Outspoken covers
Speaker 1: all things reality TV, influencers, entertainment, and issues facing women.
Speaker 1: That is so fetch Thank you, hello, and welcome back
Speaker 1: to Outspoken. We are so sorry this is coming to
Speaker 1: you a little bit later than usual, but we are
Speaker 1: changing our days around. Yeah, so we've decided to bring
Speaker 1: some joy on hump Day on a Wednesday, and that's
Speaker 1: when we're going to be doing our normal show, and
Speaker 1: then we'll also do our second show on Friday, so
Speaker 1: we're spicing it up a little bit. Yeah, we're changing
Speaker 1: things around just because it works so much better for
Speaker 1: our schedule and talking schedules. I know we've all had
Speaker 1: a really busy week, but officially, just so everyone knows
Speaker 1: how has everyone's weeks been, I thought I provide a
Speaker 1: bit of an update for those in our Facebook community
Speaker 1: about how my rent is going. So we are officially
Speaker 1: eleven days in for those taking vets at home, but
Speaker 1: we have had some good news. There have been three
Speaker 1: people who had private inspections and one fussy lady has
Speaker 1: apparently asked for an application for so watch this space.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember how many days I Reckonize said
Speaker 1: two weeks, so we've said like sick Kate said six
Speaker 1: and we did not say two weeks. You said four
Speaker 1: weeks or something. But anyway, I mean, there's no signature
Speaker 1: on the dotted line yet, so we never know. We'll
Speaker 1: find out next week how that's progressed. I had quite
Speaker 1: a stressful week as a dog mum. I had to
Speaker 1: take Shadow into the vet, the emergency vet, which I
Speaker 1: have now decided that I think I would like to
Speaker 1: be a VET in my next life because fortunately Shadow
Speaker 1: had about of gastro, but we needed to keep him
Speaker 1: in overnight to run blood tests and have X rays
Speaker 1: and that whole process costs nearly two thousand dollars. Crazy.
Speaker 1: It's been such a bad week for pets at the
Speaker 1: moment because my boyfriend's sister, her poor dog got hit
Speaker 1: by a car. Well, it actually herded a car, so
Speaker 1: it's front leg attached attack to the truck. Likely the
Speaker 1: dog came off better, but it actually cost better than
Speaker 1: the car. Well, not better than the car, but it's
Speaker 1: still alive. It's a border Collie. For those why it
Speaker 1: would be hurting cars, But it was less to treat
Speaker 1: this border collie where they had stitches and everything, than
Speaker 1: to treat a dog for gastro which I couldn't believe. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we weren't. Thank Goodness for pet insurance. Well, my week
Speaker 1: has been another healthy week. I must say I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to brag here. I had a snapchat from you
Speaker 1: eating Curly Wells. I feel like you think that that's
Speaker 1: okay every day. Well Curly Well, I just I know
Speaker 1: exactly what sugar I'm I'm allowed to have and that,
Speaker 1: as I've mentioned on the show, they only have twelve
Speaker 1: grams of sugar, so I've been sticking to that I
Speaker 1: need to treat. Can we reiterate the reason that you're
Speaker 1: being so over the top with sugar and carbs is
Speaker 1: because we all have naturally high cholesterol. So you're not
Speaker 1: some sort of like hippie type person. Yeah, isn't that
Speaker 1: the term? I don't think it's w W Well. I
Speaker 1: mentioned in our podcast community that I was thinking of
Speaker 1: going off the pill after we had our Nature Path
Speaker 1: Maria Harpers on the show, and it was a really
Speaker 1: good discussion in the group. So I have decided to
Speaker 1: go off it, and so I've been trying to clean
Speaker 1: my diet up just so my skin doesn't go foul
Speaker 1: after getting off. And I'm officially offered as well. And
Speaker 1: I think that that was quite evident yesterday when I
Speaker 1: just burst into tears for no reason and got really upset,
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, it must be leaving my system
Speaker 1: or something. See I had a cry yesterday too, But
Speaker 1: I'm still on the pill, so I don't know what's
Speaker 1: going on here Aviy and Sophia my guinea pigs, because
Speaker 1: I'm still on it, so I'll see how their skin
Speaker 1: turns out. I've got to say I've been feeling amazing
Speaker 1: because I've been taking powdered magnesium supplement and also zinc
Speaker 1: drops because apparently when you take the pill, magnesium and
Speaker 1: zinc is lowered in your body so you don't get
Speaker 1: enough of it. And oh my goodness, I've been having
Speaker 1: the best sleeps. I've been feeling amazing. So I'd highly
Speaker 1: recommend obviously check with your doctor or your nature paths.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's what I was going to say, it's
Speaker 1: obviously important to run these things through a doctor and
Speaker 1: do your research, because not everything works for the one person.
Speaker 1: But ye yeah, Well, one other great thing that's happening
Speaker 1: at the end of this week is Christmas in July. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm just pumped for Christmas later in the year, but
Speaker 1: Christmas in July. It's a good excuse to get all
Speaker 1: your Christmas jumpers out because I'm a big fan of
Speaker 1: Christmas jumpers and I'll have to share a photo on
Speaker 1: our Insta story of how many I've got, and I
Speaker 1: will wear them during forty degree heat just because I
Speaker 1: get so much joy out of it. Our OD listeners
Speaker 1: will know that every year we have at Christmas a
Speaker 1: white party where we do really extravagant dessert, so I'm
Speaker 1: kind of expecting the same sort of treatment for this weekend.
Speaker 1: Maybe we should do a different color mix it up.
Speaker 1: I reckon the jumpers, Ye win to Wonderland. Yeah that's good.
Speaker 1: I think you've got to be good and a fire
Speaker 1: with marshmallows that you roast and you can actually have
Speaker 1: hot chocolate. If anyone else is celebrating Christmas in July,
Speaker 1: please tag us in any Instagram stories that go out
Speaker 1: because we would love to see them. And let's get
Speaker 1: a thread going in the Facebook community because I'd love
Speaker 1: to hear what other people's ideas are. Let's get into
Speaker 1: the first topic. According to Instagram, the summer of twenty
Speaker 1: twenty is back glamorous. Snaps of British influencers holidaying in
Speaker 1: Ibetha are feeling our feed thanks to the U government
Speaker 1: relaxing its quarantine travel rules. It's all rather confusing though,
Speaker 1: with the fight against COVID far but over so, so
Speaker 1: can you tell us what is actually going on with
Speaker 1: the UK's travel rules at the moment. Well, on July ten,
Speaker 1: the UK government eased its quarantine rules, allowing travel to
Speaker 1: fifty eight selected countries, including France, Italy, Belgium, Germany and Spain.
Speaker 1: Well that's pretty amazing considering some of those countries have
Speaker 1: had such high cases of coronavirus. Which countries aren't they
Speaker 1: allowed to travel to? So some of the countries they're
Speaker 1: currently not allowed to travel to are the US, China
Speaker 1: and Portugal. And it's really interesting because travelers leaving and
Speaker 1: arriving in the UK will not be required to self
Speaker 1: isolate for fourteen days. That is actually so ridiculous because
Speaker 1: I found out with a bit of research that that
Speaker 1: two week quarantine rule was only put into effect on
Speaker 1: June eighth, so only about a month ago. So now
Speaker 1: they're just completely throwing that out the window. Is this
Speaker 1: just because they want to start tourism up again? Well,
Speaker 1: the UK Secretary of State for Transport said, whether you're
Speaker 1: a holiday maker ready to travel abroad or a business
Speaker 1: eager to open your doors again, this is good news
Speaker 1: for British people and great news for British business. So
Speaker 1: it seems to be very heavily driven by the economy
Speaker 1: at the moment and not so much for the health
Speaker 1: of the people over there. I can see the positives
Speaker 1: there for the economy, but what's going to happen is
Speaker 1: it's not going to stop coronavirus. It's just going to
Speaker 1: continue the spread and it's going to get worse and
Speaker 1: worse before there's a vaccine. Well, I mean, you have
Speaker 1: to just take a look at everyone in Melbourne at
Speaker 1: the moment, and my heart goes out to everyone who
Speaker 1: is currently in lockdown because it just seems like such
Speaker 1: a dire situation over there. Yeah, and it can change
Speaker 1: so rapidly, which I suppose is scary for what's going
Speaker 1: on in the UK at the moment, because while travelers
Speaker 1: don't have to isolate, they have been told that they
Speaker 1: need to provide the address of where they'll be staying
Speaker 1: for the duration of their trip, because it really helps
Speaker 1: every time I've traveled overseas, that's a part of the
Speaker 1: immigration process. I suppose it is a little bit different
Speaker 1: because when I was traveling in Europe, you don't have
Speaker 1: to show your passports going into certain countries. So for example,
Speaker 1: when I went from Amsterdam to Berlin on the train,
Speaker 1: didn't have to show any passports or anything. So it's
Speaker 1: kind of like state to state travel in Australia basically,
Speaker 1: or we should probably move into what the current lockdown
Speaker 1: situation is in the UK, so as we're currently recording this,
Speaker 1: the UK's official COVID nineteen death toll currently stands at
Speaker 1: forty five thousand, three hundred and there have been two
Speaker 1: hundred and ninety four thousand, seven hundred and ninety two cases,
Speaker 1: which is one of the highest records in the world.
Speaker 1: That is just so interesting to put into perspective in
Speaker 1: comparison to what's going on in Australia. Obviously we've been
Speaker 1: seeing a high number of cases in Victoria, but pretty
Speaker 1: much across the rest of the country our cases have
Speaker 1: been low, and I would be so shocked if we
Speaker 1: were thinking of allowing our citizens to travel. Well. All
Speaker 1: this travel has also coincided with the fact that Jim's
Speaker 1: swimming pools, leisure centers, beauty salons and outdoor arts venues
Speaker 1: at England are all reopened as well. Yeah, and what
Speaker 1: I found interesting is they're also going to be making
Speaker 1: mass mandatory of July twenty three. So similar to in Victoria,
Speaker 1: if you're going out to the shops or supermarkets or
Speaker 1: on public transport, you're going to have to be wearing
Speaker 1: a mask. Well, so how does that work when you're away?
Speaker 1: I mean it's particularly difficult for them because summertime at
Speaker 1: the moment, and wearing these masks could be really restrictive.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine everyone getting around in them in summer. Yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: they have similar laws in Spain, which will be going
Speaker 1: into a little bit later. But I found it quite
Speaker 1: interesting because I was wondering, Okay, so if you can travel,
Speaker 1: then how many people are you actually allowed to hang
Speaker 1: out with? Is are things relatively back to normal in
Speaker 1: the UK, but it seems to be that they're still
Speaker 1: sticking with these household rules. So they've explained it as
Speaker 1: anyone in your support bubble is included as your household.
Speaker 1: So at the moment, if you are socializing indoors, you're
Speaker 1: only allowed to have two households together. But if you
Speaker 1: are wanting to socialize with people outside of your household,
Speaker 1: you can only be together with up to six people.
Speaker 1: Do you have to list these people? Because how did
Speaker 1: the police know? How are they policing this that you're
Speaker 1: just with your designated people. I feel like there'd be
Speaker 1: a lot of trust there. What I found really interesting
Speaker 1: is I follow a lot of UK YouTubers and one
Speaker 1: of them had a video where she was finally visiting
Speaker 1: her friends, but in the video she had to be
Speaker 1: I think it was one point five meters away from
Speaker 1: her friends all time during the video. And isn't that
Speaker 1: normal social distancing rules here? It is? It just seemed
Speaker 1: bizarre how they was, how the placement was in the video.
Speaker 1: You could tell that they'd just done it so there'd
Speaker 1: be no troll comments because as soon as that video
Speaker 1: is over, I'm guessing they were probably a lot closer
Speaker 1: to the one point, it just looked very unnatural. What
Speaker 1: I found particularly funny when looking into the UK's social
Speaker 1: distancing rules is the fact that if you're out with
Speaker 1: your two households, so that's okay if you're all together.
Speaker 1: So say, Aimy, your household and my household went out together.
Speaker 1: But if I was then to see Sophie a different household,
Speaker 1: we would not be able to speak to her. We'd
Speaker 1: have to ignore her. Is it feasible to believe that
Speaker 1: this is actually people are actually sticking to these guidelines
Speaker 1: if it's so difficult to police. I think it's bullshit though,
Speaker 1: because people are allowed to travel, yet there's still really
Speaker 1: strict rules around funerals and weddings, so only thirty people
Speaker 1: can go to a funeral and a wedding. Yet you
Speaker 1: can jet off to Ibtha and then just come straight back.
Speaker 1: It seems a bit ludicrous to me. Shall we take
Speaker 1: a look at which influencers are currently in Ibtha at
Speaker 1: the moment? Yeah? So I noticed that this was popping
Speaker 1: up all in my news feed last week, and this
Speaker 1: of course coincided with the easing of the rules, and
Speaker 1: also a new travel company called Tui Flights carrying over
Speaker 1: five hundred British holidaymakers across to Abitha from Manchester in London,
Speaker 1: and then that was also followed by a flight from
Speaker 1: Ryan Air. So a month classy who's getting on Ryan
Speaker 1: Air at the moment that's not going to be pretty
Speaker 1: desperate to go on a holiday through Ryan Air. Well
Speaker 1: that's what I found funny because when I was watching
Speaker 1: YouTube couple Ellie Darby and Connor Swift's vlog in Ibitha,
Speaker 1: they were traveling Ryan Air and I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: that must have been really slim pickings. So that pair
Speaker 1: are there alongside UK Love Island stars Molly May and
Speaker 1: Tommy Fury, as well as some lesser known UK Love
Speaker 1: Island stars who are Elma and Francesca. Funnily enough, Jordie
Speaker 1: Shaw stars Charlotte Crosby and Holly Hagen are also there,
Speaker 1: along with I'm a Celeb Winner Jacqueline Joseph and Towy's Billy.
Speaker 1: So the three of them are actually shooting an inn
Speaker 1: style campaign and I think Holly's just sun baking in
Speaker 1: the meantime. Well, I've also heard people like Saffra Barker
Speaker 1: talking about how she's set to plan a holiday there
Speaker 1: or either in the Middle East. So it is interesting
Speaker 1: to hear that there's a lot of travel being discussed
Speaker 1: on YouTube at the moment, and I suppose travel vlogs
Speaker 1: are a lot of these people's bread and butter, so
Speaker 1: it does make sense that they're suddenly traveling again. Do
Speaker 1: you reckon that these companies are paying for them to
Speaker 1: go over there, because, as you say, it's just popping
Speaker 1: up all the time in Instagram, and I'm assuming it
Speaker 1: is influencing other people in the UK to go. Oh okay,
Speaker 1: if they're there, it must be safe to go to Abetha. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's interesting you say that because I noticed that Molly
Speaker 1: and Tommy mentioned that they only had decided the night
Speaker 1: before to go, and it was similar with Ellie, so
Speaker 1: she surprised her boyfriend Connor with a trip for their
Speaker 1: anniversary and all seemed very last minute. But do you
Speaker 1: notice as well the demographic that are going. It's all
Speaker 1: young people who, which statistics show, aren't necessarily going to
Speaker 1: be greatly affected if they do pick up coronavirus. I mean,
Speaker 1: come on, so with influences, they could have fourteen days
Speaker 1: quarantine easy. It's the people that are in specific jobs like,
Speaker 1: if you're working is a nurse, probably not a good
Speaker 1: idea to go away for a trip to Ibetha. Well.
Speaker 1: I think the scary thing is that the COVID situation
Speaker 1: in Spain hasn't been good at all. There has been
Speaker 1: over twenty eight thousand deaths and two hundred and sixty
Speaker 1: five thousand cases. That's really interesting because for Spain they
Speaker 1: wouldn't want people from the UK coming over because while
Speaker 1: Spain has had quite a large number of deaths, the
Speaker 1: UK that's nearly they've nearly had double the amount of deaths. Well,
Speaker 1: it's funny you say that because you'd think so, but
Speaker 1: the Spanish government actually makes so much money off tourism,
Speaker 1: and the changes to the UK travel rules are actually
Speaker 1: considered a huge lifeline for Ibetha and other islands because
Speaker 1: the tourists that flock there are usually from the UK. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but are they going to be flocking there for long
Speaker 1: if there's a huge spike in coronavirus cases? I mean,
Speaker 1: I can understand it's obviously for the people's livelihoods, and
Speaker 1: it's actually so sad because it shows you how desperate
Speaker 1: the Spanish government are to spike their economy back up
Speaker 1: because tourism would be such a huge part, especially in Ibetha. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're having a look at Ibetha and the Baliriac Islands,
Speaker 1: which Abetha as a part of. So data suggests that
Speaker 1: there are one hundred and twenty nine active cases of
Speaker 1: coronavirus in the island, with twelve more on Friday. That's
Speaker 1: pretty crazy because I mean you look at South Australia.
Speaker 1: At the moment, we have zero cases and the way
Speaker 1: that our government is acting is in a very controlled,
Speaker 1: very cautious way. If we had one hundred and ninety
Speaker 1: one cases, there's no way we'd be letting anyone in. Well.
Speaker 1: I think it's actually showing a change in mindset because
Speaker 1: in Australia everyone's sort of going, oh, we need to
Speaker 1: shut down everything, But in these European countries where tourism
Speaker 1: is so big, they're saying, well, we've got to reopen,
Speaker 1: we've got to get back to normal, We've got to
Speaker 1: be able to live with this virus. This virus is
Speaker 1: going to be around for a long time because there
Speaker 1: is no vaccine on the horizon. I think it's a
Speaker 1: pretty reckless way to live though. I mean, with the
Speaker 1: amount of people who are working on finding a vaccine
Speaker 1: At the moment, you know, we're all predicting that hopefully
Speaker 1: it might be something that takes another year or six months.
Speaker 1: Can we just not stop traveling for that long to
Speaker 1: contain it. I mean, people are dying, but there are
Speaker 1: people that are dying who they can't support their family,
Speaker 1: who are committing suicide because they can't live life like
Speaker 1: set And I understand that. But that's where the government
Speaker 1: needs to step in and do take a look at
Speaker 1: Australia's job keeper situation and perhaps produce something like that,
Speaker 1: But not all countries can afford to do that. Well.
Speaker 1: The Spanish government did announce last week a four point
Speaker 1: two billion dollar euro aid package for its tourism industry,
Speaker 1: so that's a positive sign in the right direction. But
Speaker 1: it is really sad for people living in Spain and
Speaker 1: having to work in those tourism industry because one hotel
Speaker 1: worker was interviewed in an article talking about the influx
Speaker 1: of visitors to Ibitha and he said he was worried
Speaker 1: but really had no choice. He said, tourism is the
Speaker 1: only business here and if we don't work, we starve.
Speaker 1: So I think that really puts it into perspective. Do
Speaker 1: you guys think it's irresponsible of the influencers to go
Speaker 1: and promote overseas travel if they have been paid. I
Speaker 1: think the thing that is difficult is that if it's
Speaker 1: allowed by the UK government, then I don't really feel
Speaker 1: it's irresponsible of them because they are sticking to the
Speaker 1: guidelines that are allowed. At the same ammorizing. Yeah, at
Speaker 1: the same time, I think even even not for the
Speaker 1: health side of things, but even for people's mental health,
Speaker 1: particularly look at those poor people in Melbourne at the moment.
Speaker 1: If I was stuck in lockdown, a very severe lockdown,
Speaker 1: and face my Instagram feed was being flooded with people
Speaker 1: on these luxurious holidays, it'd be quite detrimental for me.
Speaker 1: It seemed very tone deaf to be bragging about this
Speaker 1: holiday and kind of acting like everything is back to normal,
Speaker 1: because it's not back to normal. Unfortunately, there are still
Speaker 1: people out of work, people that are in lockdown, and
Speaker 1: just seeing these sort of rich influences, it seemed very elitist.
Speaker 1: They're so lucky to be in a position where they
Speaker 1: can afford to just book a holiday. The next day
Speaker 1: when they're sitting on the couch watching a movie. A
Speaker 1: lot of people are struggling paycheck to paychecked or not
Speaker 1: even getting paid and having to live off government benefits.
Speaker 1: So it did really annoy me. But there is also
Speaker 1: the other side where well, it's helping people in Spain
Speaker 1: live as well. It's a really tough one. I think
Speaker 1: the other thing it does do though, is it helps
Speaker 1: people escape from perhaps the mundaneness that they're currently living in.
Speaker 1: I mean, I have to say I did enjoy watching
Speaker 1: a few of their youtubes because it was exciting to
Speaker 1: see people traveling again. But yeah, and so in two
Speaker 1: minds about it. It was interesting to see all the
Speaker 1: different protocol because I was watching l Darby's travel vlog
Speaker 1: to Ibetha and she was saying that they just had
Speaker 1: to have lots of temperature checks along the way, and
Speaker 1: they also had to sign documentations saying that they didn't
Speaker 1: have coronavirus, which I felt was odd because unless you've
Speaker 1: had a coronavirus test, how can you actually legally claim
Speaker 1: that you don't have it. And the thing that I
Speaker 1: find interesting though is the fact that everyone is traveling
Speaker 1: to Abetha, which is clearly known as a holiday island
Speaker 1: and one where there's a lot of a party island
Speaker 1: where there's lots of music festivals and that sort of thing.
Speaker 1: And kay, can you talk us through what the rules
Speaker 1: are in regards to drinking and dancing because at the
Speaker 1: moment in South Australia there's no dancing at nightclubs at
Speaker 1: the moment. Yes, right, we could go out because it's
Speaker 1: a good excuse, Sorry I can't. Yeah. Well, the thing
Speaker 1: is a lot of people are thinking, oh, well we
Speaker 1: can travel to Abitha, so it must be up and running.
Speaker 1: But the sad reality is a lot of the clubs
Speaker 1: are actually close, so it's a lot of day clubs
Speaker 1: that are open, and there are a lot of health
Speaker 1: and safety measures being put in play, so they're trying
Speaker 1: to implement mists like sanitary mist that you walk through
Speaker 1: when you enter the club. That just made me laugh
Speaker 1: because it reminds me of back in the day when
Speaker 1: you go to a night club and there'd be someone
Speaker 1: on the dance floor would do like a dance floor fart. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and just that horrible beers smell. I don't know that stench.
Speaker 1: They kind of needed a bit of that. But just
Speaker 1: imagine your hair, like imagine having done your hair to
Speaker 1: go out and then this detergent mist is spreading to it. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: in addition to the mist, wearing a mask is also mandatory.
Speaker 1: So if you're out and about, you're going to be
Speaker 1: having to wear a mask. You can take it off
Speaker 1: if you're swimming or sitting around the pool or playing sport. However,
Speaker 1: if you're in a restaurant, you're going to have to
Speaker 1: be wearing a mask. And if you're at a bar
Speaker 1: and you can't actually stand one point five meters away,
Speaker 1: you have to wear the mask, but you can pull
Speaker 1: it down and to have a drink. Can I just
Speaker 1: say some influencers have been absolutely rocking their masks so
Speaker 1: the point where I'm like, they actually look cool. Because
Speaker 1: we had a discussion about Kira Maguire in our Facebook
Speaker 1: group because she posted an instagram of her I think
Speaker 1: it was some sort of average just promoting some colds
Speaker 1: product into a little impromptued photo shoot. Jeez, she was
Speaker 1: rocking that mask. I'm in two minds about this whole
Speaker 1: mask thing though. While I think it's great that they're
Speaker 1: influencing other people to do the right thing and wear
Speaker 1: a mask, I don't want masks to suddenly turn into
Speaker 1: something where people feel. I mean, it's so difficult to
Speaker 1: get your hands in any of these masks, and there's
Speaker 1: going to be pressure that, oh, my mask isn't cool.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, that's always going
Speaker 1: to happen. And I think if influencers can actually start
Speaker 1: using their power for good and people want to get
Speaker 1: a mask, and I don't think there's much danger, and
Speaker 1: I think it's positive. I've had a personally a bit
Speaker 1: of ick factor over some of the posts with the mask.
Speaker 1: I think it's positive. I mean, I saw Brook Hogan
Speaker 1: post a tutorial on how to make a mask out
Speaker 1: of a sock, and I have seen this floating around
Speaker 1: with other people and I just think, well, that's really
Speaker 1: great because it's now mandatory in Victoria to wear them,
Speaker 1: and I think other states should be adopting it and
Speaker 1: be more cautious when they're going out, do you know what.
Speaker 1: I just keep thinking. I keep thinking if it was
Speaker 1: this time last year, and if you could take a
Speaker 1: look into the future, you would just be like, what
Speaker 1: the hell is going on? I think it's quite interesting though,
Speaker 1: because I think I think there are some really good
Speaker 1: things being implemented. For example, in IBETHA they're getting rid
Speaker 1: of all the paper menus and instead they're putting QR
Speaker 1: codes on the table, so you just scan it with
Speaker 1: your phone and the menu pops up. I mean that's
Speaker 1: pretty cool. I is making me just want to go
Speaker 1: on holiday. That's the worst thing. I just want to
Speaker 1: go to Penang, which is where we go on our
Speaker 1: family holidays. But that's the thing, that's why it's such
Speaker 1: a tease, Like it's such a teas being able to
Speaker 1: see these other people and as Kate touched them before,
Speaker 1: it does just feel like this elitist thing. At least
Speaker 1: it's something nice to hate, folly, other than influencers doing
Speaker 1: up their cupboards. Love that you want something to hate follow,
Speaker 1: Oh we're human, come on, everyone does. Let's get into
Speaker 1: our pit and peak of the social media week, and Kate,
Speaker 1: let's start with a pit because you chose this one
Speaker 1: and so and I thought it was a bit odd,
Speaker 1: but we'll let you explain. Soph you sent me this.
Speaker 1: I sent it to you, but I thought it should
Speaker 1: be a peak, not a pit. Okay, well I'll have
Speaker 1: to explain. So Sophie sent me a Instagram photo of
Speaker 1: Jessica Simpson, who turned forty this week. This blew my
Speaker 1: mind because I don't know if we're showing our age here,
Speaker 1: but growing up, I remember in year eight, Nearly Weeds
Speaker 1: was on, and that was, of course the reality show
Speaker 1: that followed Jessica Simpson and Nicolchet's first couple of years
Speaker 1: of marriage, and oh my god, it was the best show.
Speaker 1: And she was only twenty three in this at the time,
Speaker 1: and I remember just being obsessed with her and just
Speaker 1: thinking how gorgeous she was, how much I wished I
Speaker 1: looked like her. So it blew my mind to see
Speaker 1: that she had turned forty. Yeah, and there's that famous
Speaker 1: episode where it is her birthday and she's like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, I'm nearly twenty five, which nearly means I'm thirty.
Speaker 1: And it's like, now she actually is forty. It's quite
Speaker 1: weird to look back on. She looks incredible. Yeah, she
Speaker 1: does not look forward and nice to say, forty isn't
Speaker 1: even old now. I used to think back in the day,
Speaker 1: forty used to seem so old, but it's so young still.
Speaker 1: Just to clarify, it was the pit because it made
Speaker 1: me feel old. Okay, that's fair enough. So just moving
Speaker 1: on to the peak that had to be a video
Speaker 1: that Laura and Britt from the podcast Life Uncut released,
Speaker 1: and it was a video celebrating the fact they've now
Speaker 1: had two million downloads on their podcast. It was bloody hello.
Speaker 1: I just love how into it they get. So Laura
Speaker 1: and Maddie Jay often do quite quirky videos like this,
Speaker 1: and obviously they got Britt involved, and bloody hell, they
Speaker 1: were strutting around Bonday Beach and glittery jackets and acting
Speaker 1: like divas with puppies and god, they really took the
Speaker 1: piss out of themselves. It's the least exciting to look at.
Speaker 1: Please give a thumbs up, give it a life because
Speaker 1: it really supports my channel. You're insignificant. Asscare now into
Speaker 1: the reality rap and there is finally something to talk
Speaker 1: about because Bachelor and Paradise is finally here. Now. I
Speaker 1: think we are all in mourning one for the fact
Speaker 1: that Abby Chatfield was kicked off. I mean, what the
Speaker 1: hell was that about. She was the best thing on
Speaker 1: that show. I mean, it really was the Abby show
Speaker 1: on episode one and two. I'm assuming because she then
Speaker 1: got kicked off, couldn't they bloody force Jamie to give
Speaker 1: her a rose? Yeah? She mightn't have accepted it. I
Speaker 1: suppose it does show you, though, that the producers probably
Speaker 1: don't have a huge day, because you would assume that
Speaker 1: they would want Abby Chatfield to be there because she
Speaker 1: is a ratings winner. I mean, we've just got basically,
Speaker 1: oh not all duds, like we've got some still some
Speaker 1: good storylines. But then again, they're putting new characters in
Speaker 1: each week, so I mean, I suppose perhaps it's making
Speaker 1: room for some of the other characters like Kira Maguire
Speaker 1: to come in contestines. Well, I'm calling them characters because
Speaker 1: that's really what they are. All the other contestant they've
Speaker 1: got a lot of the spotlight was Kieran What did
Speaker 1: everyone make of the way he's been portrayed currently? If
Speaker 1: I was him, I wouldn't have gone on Bachelor in
Speaker 1: Paradise if I was going to behave like this, because
Speaker 1: he was so well loved after Angie's series, and he's
Speaker 1: just come across as a complete dickhead. Now I didn't
Speaker 1: actually watch Angie series as the Bachelor, so this is
Speaker 1: the first time I've met him on the show, I suppose,
Speaker 1: and I just couldn't believe that everyone was going nuts
Speaker 1: over him. He literally looks like Draco Malfoy's father. Like
Speaker 1: when he came in with that blonde hair down, I
Speaker 1: was like, is this who? We're all going nuts? So
Speaker 1: if look, I watched Angie Kent series and I still
Speaker 1: don't get it. I don't get why everyone loved him.
Speaker 1: I mean, I do like the accent. Maybe it's the accent.
Speaker 1: It's appealing to everyone. I get why people liked him
Speaker 1: on Angie series. I mean, I personally am not a
Speaker 1: fan of that many tattoos, but I think I think
Speaker 1: that a lot of girls do really like the way
Speaker 1: he does look. He's a particular style, but he's not
Speaker 1: my cup of tea. That's what I mean. He's a
Speaker 1: particular style. So it seems odd that a lot of
Speaker 1: people are going on about him, which was really perfectly
Speaker 1: summarized in a meme I saw, and it said, no
Speaker 1: one was interested in American Alex, who is conventionally extremely
Speaker 1: hot in the previous in the previous series of Bachelor
Speaker 1: in Paradise, But everyone's going nuts about Kuran, who is
Speaker 1: not what you would conventionally think was attractive. Is it
Speaker 1: because he's the bad boy? Look? No? In Angie's series,
Speaker 1: It wasn't because he was the bad boy. It was
Speaker 1: because he was actually really funny and really nice. He
Speaker 1: was kind of that quirky person that had a really
Speaker 1: cheeky personality, and he'd always wear different colored suits, and
Speaker 1: he actually seemed to be looking out for Angie. But
Speaker 1: what seems to have ruined things for him is the
Speaker 1: fact that there's more than one woman. Well, from what
Speaker 1: I've heard and am led to believe, he was not
Speaker 1: looking after Angie at all. So apparently he was dating Renee,
Speaker 1: who was on Matt series of The Bachelor the whole
Speaker 1: time he was an Angie series, and that's why he
Speaker 1: left the series. But he claimed he left because I
Speaker 1: think it was his grandmother that dies. Well, that's a
Speaker 1: very good excuse, isn't it. Well, Renee is going to
Speaker 1: be appearing tonight on the show, isn't she? That should
Speaker 1: be explosive. I find funniest about this is no one
Speaker 1: even knows who Renee is because she was an intruder
Speaker 1: on Matt series who literally lasted like one night. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because we were first introduced to her when Cass who's
Speaker 1: on Bachelor in Paradise. They had it basically a dinner
Speaker 1: party and they could put in anonymous questions. It was
Speaker 1: actually called the Buller Banquet, and I loved because it
Speaker 1: was very similar to Married at First Sight, where they
Speaker 1: would ask awkward questions yeah, and they were all anonymous questions.
Speaker 1: So Cass, she's interested in Kieran, and she put in
Speaker 1: a question saying, what's the go basically with him and
Speaker 1: Renee and what happened in their relationship. So he had
Speaker 1: to reveal at this dinner party that he had actually
Speaker 1: cheated on Renee at a wedding. And it was hilarious
Speaker 1: because Cas was like, Oh, yeah, I'm just you know,
Speaker 1: into girl code and I'm really looking out for Renee
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm not going to go there if his
Speaker 1: answer doesn't align with her vels. Yeah, and he literally
Speaker 1: says he cheats on her, and then next minute she's
Speaker 1: trying to hook up with him under a palm tree.
Speaker 1: Do you think it's the competition side of things, because
Speaker 1: it seems like, well, what the producers want us to
Speaker 1: think is that Cass is so keen to beat Abby
Speaker 1: and win Kieran that they don't even care about Kieran.
Speaker 1: It's all about winning. I think it's also a lot
Speaker 1: to do with the amount of alcohol they're being supplied,
Speaker 1: but she was slurring her words the whole time that night,
Speaker 1: and yeah, I think that the alcohol is definitely an
Speaker 1: element as well as the competition. Well for Cass, she
Speaker 1: really hasn't come out of this looking very good, because
Speaker 1: not only was she quite rude to Abbi Chatfield, she
Speaker 1: also was rude to Jess, who came in I think
Speaker 1: towards the end of the second episode. And of course Jess,
Speaker 1: she is a tattooed, gorgeous girl, and she caught the
Speaker 1: eye of Kieran and it's quite obvious looking at them
Speaker 1: that they look like a very good match on paper.
Speaker 1: Well they do. When she came in, I was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's gonna hook us. She blatantly slut shamed her behind
Speaker 1: her back. As soon as she entered. She told everyone
Speaker 1: that she used to work as a stripper. And what
Speaker 1: I found so sad slutshaming though it's I think it
Speaker 1: was more the way she said it was she's connotation,
Speaker 1: but also she didn't even give Jess the opportunity to
Speaker 1: tell everyone. And what I thought was so hypocritical was
Speaker 1: that Cass turned her nose up at Jess for previously
Speaker 1: being a stripper, but then she's quite happy to actively
Speaker 1: seek out a relationship with Kieran, who is a stripper.
Speaker 1: So Kieren previously was a stripper, And I suppose it
Speaker 1: is interesting to look at the way male strippers and
Speaker 1: female strippers are portrayed, and I suppose just males and
Speaker 1: females generally on the show, because Kieran's seen as a
Speaker 1: right laugh that the fact he was a stripper. It's
Speaker 1: sort of funny, but then Jess is degraded about, oh,
Speaker 1: she's just a stripper. But it's kind of like on
Speaker 1: The Bachelorette when they were all painting Kieran in the nude,
Speaker 1: and that was really funny. But if it was say
Speaker 1: Abby Chatfield the season before being painted in the nude,
Speaker 1: that would be slutty. Yeah, it was quite funny also
Speaker 1: looking at who the show picks as the bachelor, because
Speaker 1: there have been quite a few contestants like Tim Robards
Speaker 1: that have been strippers before. But the Dirty Street PI
Speaker 1: what's his name, Blake, Blake Garvey. Yeah, no, it's been
Speaker 1: like it's mentioned in news articles, but it's kind of like, oh,
Speaker 1: that was the side thing they were doing, and now
Speaker 1: they're really successful, which is the same for the women,
Speaker 1: but it's seen as some dirty thing. And I suppose
Speaker 1: this hypocrisy was also extremely obvious the way Abby Chatfield
Speaker 1: was treated. Again. Yeah, so Abby was shown canoodling in
Speaker 1: bed with Kieran and it was almost implied that something
Speaker 1: happened the way it was edited. And she's come out
Speaker 1: on the Kyle and Jackie Oh Show and said, guys,
Speaker 1: nothing happened. She said to Kyle, Kyle, I would tell you,
Speaker 1: and she would she would have said something because she
Speaker 1: is so open about all of that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: She said that they just literally lay in bed together.
Speaker 1: The thing I found so disgusting was the way Mary
Speaker 1: was talking about Abby, basically saying, oh, she's just going
Speaker 1: to get it tits out again and she's going to,
Speaker 1: you know, get what she wants. She always gets what
Speaker 1: she wants. And as you were saying, Amy, she was
Speaker 1: putting blame on Abby as opposed to Kieran in that situation.
Speaker 1: I mean, the whole time Abby was only interested in
Speaker 1: one guy. But I don't I don't think blame should
Speaker 1: have been placed on anybody. It's a show about getting
Speaker 1: to know each other, and I suppose in some sense
Speaker 1: hooking up and seeing if you work as a couple.
Speaker 1: She has actually come out and apologize for her comments,
Speaker 1: so she should have. Yeah, Mary should have apologized. She
Speaker 1: was pretty disgusting with her commentary, and it's good that
Speaker 1: she did. I mean, you don't know how you're coming
Speaker 1: across and what they're going to choose that you say,
Speaker 1: but she did say those things. Now, on the topic
Speaker 1: of Bachelor and Paradise and with the Bachelorette impending, we
Speaker 1: are going to be starting a petition or a campaign
Speaker 1: to get Abby Chatfield as the bachelorette. I think we
Speaker 1: need it. She has announced that she is by so
Speaker 1: can you imagine that having men and women competing for
Speaker 1: a rose that would be so interesting. Plus, she's overtly sexual.
Speaker 1: She is in touch with her sexuality, another great thing
Speaker 1: that we want to watch. I think the series of
Speaker 1: the Bachelor and Bachelorette is very old school, like they
Speaker 1: don't even have the fantasy suites like they do in America.
Speaker 1: And from what I've seen on her instance story, it's
Speaker 1: pretty obvious still single, because she put up a photo
Speaker 1: saying she's basically been banned from Tinder. And also I
Speaker 1: think it was hinge because people keep reporting her account
Speaker 1: as being faked, but it's actually her. I saw Tinder
Speaker 1: got onto that though, and messaged her and said that
Speaker 1: her account's back up and going well. She also did
Speaker 1: a Q and A with her friend and they were
Speaker 1: both saying that they've already come up with date ideas
Speaker 1: if she is picked for the Bachelorette, and included eating
Speaker 1: a whole lot of food, which I love. So let's
Speaker 1: move on to some reality shows that are sadly wrapping up,
Speaker 1: and one that I have loved has been Master Chef,
Speaker 1: and I feel like it's been going for about two
Speaker 1: years because it started in the midst of all the
Speaker 1: lockdown that was going on, and I know for me
Speaker 1: and a lot of people, it's been a real crutch
Speaker 1: and a little excitement, some family friendly fun at the
Speaker 1: end of the day. I feel like it's really inspired
Speaker 1: you to cook again, Kate, because you have been whipping
Speaker 1: up desserts left, right and center. So I hope that
Speaker 1: continues after Master Chef's finished. Well, it's funny because Resent
Speaker 1: and I were talking about it and we feel like
Speaker 1: the previous series of Master Chef you used to actually
Speaker 1: try and cook the things that the Condestines cooked, but
Speaker 1: because it's the best of series, it's been really hard
Speaker 1: to replicate anything they've cooked because it's all so complex. Okay,
Speaker 1: were you happy with the winner? No? I wasn't. It
Speaker 1: was very anticlimactic. As we spoke about a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks ago. The winner was Amelia and she was tipped
Speaker 1: by the betting companies to be the winner. So it
Speaker 1: seems that there was a leak ages ago that knew
Speaker 1: that she won. Oh. Look, anytime those shows are pre recorded,
Speaker 1: the crew know who have won. They're going to tell
Speaker 1: the betting people. I said to you last week, I
Speaker 1: was like, so should I put a whole lot of
Speaker 1: money on her? And You're like, no, you never know. Well,
Speaker 1: it was really sad because Laura was going really well
Speaker 1: and then she burnt her hand so badly, So from
Speaker 1: there it was kind of obvious what was gonna happen.
Speaker 1: I personally want a Callum hand to win. I think
Speaker 1: he is so sweet. He came forth and when he
Speaker 1: got kicked off, literally I could have cried. It was
Speaker 1: so sad. Okay, are you a bit jealous? Because tomorrow,
Speaker 1: as part of Hula Media, Amy and I are going
Speaker 1: to be filming something special with Callum. I'm very jealous.
Speaker 1: I asked if I could come a little eman. Well,
Speaker 1: I've actually got something on. You can rehold the Lights
Speaker 1: or something. Well. Another series of mine that you guys
Speaker 1: have refused to watch is Big Brother and that is
Speaker 1: ending to nights, and I would really like to see
Speaker 1: Dan win. It's kind of been anti climactic. All the
Speaker 1: good people kind of got kicked off and it's now
Speaker 1: just the two groups. Now, how are they actually deciding
Speaker 1: the winner? Cap I still don't know. It's meant to
Speaker 1: be voted by the public, but they will not actually
Speaker 1: tell us what's happening. You only know that they do
Speaker 1: the sort of competitions and games until they get that
Speaker 1: final three and then apparently it's voted on. But I'm
Speaker 1: really interested because not once have we been asked to
Speaker 1: vote for who we want to win. Well. The thing
Speaker 1: that blew my mind this week though, was hearing that
Speaker 1: Kieran from Big Brother is now selling his own merchandise. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this was really strange to me because Kieran is one
Speaker 1: of those people that, yes, I enjoyed watching him on
Speaker 1: the show because he was such a buffoon. It's not
Speaker 1: that I like him, nor would want to emulate anything
Speaker 1: he's wearing, and that sounds really cruel. But that's and
Speaker 1: I just found it was really quite interesting because I
Speaker 1: had a look and he's got a YouTube channel and
Speaker 1: obviously pushing his own merch, so it seems he's dead
Speaker 1: set interested in becoming famous. Now I believe, I believe
Speaker 1: his merch had some of his catch phrases on there.
Speaker 1: What were the couch phrases? Catchphrases that I didn't even
Speaker 1: know were a thing? Like they start I noticed they
Speaker 1: started calling him thick boy, which I thought, well, that's
Speaker 1: a bit rude. Yeah, that's what he's got on the
Speaker 1: T shirts. And who would want to wear that shirt?
Speaker 1: It's like, who was his target demographic? Cook? I laughed,
Speaker 1: because it almost sounds a bit rude. Yeah, it seems
Speaker 1: a bit of a play on words, doesn't it. Well,
Speaker 1: even the word thick implies dumb as well, so oh yeah,
Speaker 1: actually I must be thick. I didn't think of that.
Speaker 1: But what I found interesting is his dad is actually
Speaker 1: a drama teacher, so I was wondering if he was
Speaker 1: putting on an act and everything he was doing in
Speaker 1: the house was a bit fake because he was so infuriating,
Speaker 1: like he would sit on the couch and be like
Speaker 1: mom like and just be mumbling to himself. I just
Speaker 1: feel like the Big Brother producers clearly tried to keep
Speaker 1: him there because he should have been out night one.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, it's pretty obvious they tried to keep Angela
Speaker 1: and Kieran there. Do you reckon? That's what he spent
Speaker 1: his fifteen grand on just putting out this merch. Oh
Speaker 1: that's a good idea. I don't know. Well, he's a videographer,
Speaker 1: isn't he. The thing that I fervently The thing that
Speaker 1: I foundly interesting though, was I had a look at
Speaker 1: Angela if she popped up because I follow sheic and
Speaker 1: it popped up that she was wearing one of their tops,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, I want to see how
Speaker 1: many followers she has. She only had twenty two thousand,
Speaker 1: which surprised me because she seemed like one of the
Speaker 1: most popular on there. Well, it shows it shows that
Speaker 1: Big Brother hasn't been too popular, because even with Kieran,
Speaker 1: he's around the twenty thousand mark. But if you look
Speaker 1: at people who are on the Bachelor, they've all got
Speaker 1: over one hundred thousand, maybe it's the demographic who's watching
Speaker 1: the show, a lot of older people that wouldn't follow
Speaker 1: them talking about a Big Brother, and people with large followings.
Speaker 1: It was quite funny. I'm obsessed with nadi A Bartel's brand,
Speaker 1: despite not actually buying any of her jumpers because they
Speaker 1: sold out and were too expensive anyway and made from
Speaker 1: very poor pularity material. Yeah, apparently they're made from four
Speaker 1: quality materials. Someone told us in our community, but you
Speaker 1: love the look of this, but I love it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And anyway, one of the people on the Instagram story
Speaker 1: that was wearing one of the jumpers was Crystal, and
Speaker 1: I thought she looked familiar. I clicked on her page
Speaker 1: and she looks kind of like one of those Byron
Speaker 1: Bay moms with you know, beautiful. Yeah, it's Crystal from
Speaker 1: a Big Brother, the one that went in with her
Speaker 1: mum and they both had boob jobs. She has completely
Speaker 1: rebranded herself. It was quite hilarious. She's one of those
Speaker 1: holistic mums that's all about the Byron Bay life and
Speaker 1: the white linen. And I was like, wow, this is
Speaker 1: completely different to what you're portrayed like on Big Brother,
Speaker 1: which was obviously a long time ago. And she's got
Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of followers. I surprise because Instagram wasn't
Speaker 1: around when she was on Big Brother. Obviously her new lifestyle.
Speaker 1: Maybe she's some sort of mummy blogger now, yes, she was. Anyway,
Speaker 1: blast from the past. It's time for awkward turtle now.
Speaker 1: Amy and Sophie have been keeping this one a secret
Speaker 1: from me so they can get my real reaction to it. Okay,
Speaker 1: so I'm interested to know what actually happened. Well, one lunchtime,
Speaker 1: Sophie and I decided, Okay, it's beautiful weather, let's go
Speaker 1: for a walk from her new house. So we walked
Speaker 1: towards beach. Anyway, there was this beautiful secluded part of
Speaker 1: this walkway through to the beach, and there was only
Speaker 1: one man in front of us. So we were just
Speaker 1: walking along chatting. And this is the day that Sophie
Speaker 1: had found out that her boyfriend had to have a
Speaker 1: coronavirus test just because he had a sore throat. There
Speaker 1: was it was literally no other reason throat. It wasn't
Speaker 1: it just a tickle? Because the Beechton is very, very
Speaker 1: good with those things, so he will get things checked
Speaker 1: out even when something's not wrong. To be fair with
Speaker 1: the job that Brandon does. They're very cautious and they've
Speaker 1: been urging anyone who has any signs, even a tickle
Speaker 1: in their throat to get tested. So that's why he
Speaker 1: got tested. So anyway, we're walking along and just chatting
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, Sophie brings up Brandon's test
Speaker 1: and she was so mind you, this man's walking probably
Speaker 1: one point five meters ahead of us. Yeah, so he
Speaker 1: gets his results back for the coronavirus test tomorrow. She
Speaker 1: was so loud. I was like, Sophieg, man's probably gonna
Speaker 1: be panicked, thinking we're talking something. And he did fall
Speaker 1: into the age category who are at So he's walking
Speaker 1: ahead of us and then all of a sudden he
Speaker 1: sort of like stands to the site and lets us
Speaker 1: walk past him, and he starts walking back. It was
Speaker 1: so embarrassing. Well, I can confirm that he does not
Speaker 1: have coronavirus. As soon as we got back from the walk,
Speaker 1: actually he found out that he was negative for it.
Speaker 1: Well there's no shot there because there's currently zero cases
Speaker 1: in South Australia, thank goodness. And as we close, we
Speaker 1: just want to say we are really thinking of everyone
Speaker 1: in Melbourne. I know a large percentage of our listener
Speaker 1: base is from Victoria, so I hope you guys are
Speaker 1: doing okay. We really feel for you. We do want
Speaker 1: to say we feel lucky to be able to be
Speaker 1: going about pretty normally, so we are thinking of you
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