1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: This is Outspoken. The podcast is not afraid to say 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: exactly what you're thinking. Our names are Amy Kate and 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: Sophie Torba. We're identical triplets, but we often don't have 4 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: identical opinions, so sometimes things can get heated. Outspoken covers 5 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: all things reality TV, influences, entertainment, and issues facing women. 6 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: That is so fetch Thank you gosh. 7 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 2: I cannot believe it's Friday again. I have felt so 8 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 2: disorientated this week because I've had a three day working 9 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 2: week and I have just been all over the place. 10 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: But thank god, it is Friday. It's so weird because 11 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 1: even though we've had two days off, I keep thinking 12 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: it should be later than it is. Well, you're already 13 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: for the weekend. Well, what are you guys doing this weekend? Well, 14 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: I'm excited because I've got a puppy play date with 15 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 1: Archie's brother and it's really nice because I've actually become 16 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: friends with the girl who's got his brother, so it's 17 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: really cute. Every now and then we catch up and 18 00:00:57,760 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: take them down to the beach for a swim, and 19 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: it's so fun. Because Cocker spaniels seemed to play differently 20 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: than other dogs do they always pull at each other's 21 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,839 Speaker 1: ears and just have the best time. But it's funny. 22 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: She was telling me that her dog doesn't get along 23 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:12,479 Speaker 1: with other breeds of dogs, and it's sometimes the same 24 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: for Archie, so it's so cute to see them together. 25 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 2: It's funny because my golden retriever Shadow doesn't like golden retrievers. 26 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 2: He doesn't really like other dogs. He just loves people. 27 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 2: I think he thinks he is a person. 28 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: Or what about you, Amy, what have you got planned? 29 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: I honestly have nothing planned for the weekend. I'm so 30 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 1: exhausted from the long weekend that's just been so We've 31 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: had so many social engagements, so I just think I'm 32 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 1: gonna be chilling. Oh, so many social I'm not bragging 33 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: at all at all. I'm just saying it's going to 34 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: be a chilled one. I think I heard you had 35 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: quite a fun time on your house but oh it's 36 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: not my houseboat, but it's dale was friend's house boat 37 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: and where it was very, very impressive. 38 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 2: But we were just there for one night. And yeah, 39 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 2: I'm exhausted. So I couldn't believe the snapchats you were 40 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 2: sending me. I'm thinking, how much does a houseboat like 41 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 2: that cost. It was bigger than my own house. 42 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: Ah, it was pretty impressive. I was shocked. It was 43 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: a four bedroom house boat and the people absolutely lovely 44 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: who own it, so it was Yeah, it was a 45 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: fun time away. It was very clever being friends with them. 46 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: What about UK, Well, on the topic. 47 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 2: Of houses, last week was really scary for me. I 48 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 2: actually thought I might not have a house anymore. So, 49 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 2: for those who aren't aware, the Adelaide Hills had a 50 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 2: really bad fire. So the fire started in Cherry Gardens, 51 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 2: which is a suburb away from where I live. And 52 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,959 Speaker 2: on Sunday afternoon, I was just cleaning out my wardrobe 53 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 2: and I went to chuck something in the laundry and 54 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 2: I saw Reese's face from outside and he came in 55 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 2: and he looked really worried, and I'm like, what's wrong. 56 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 2: I thought it'd seen a snake. And anyway, he goes, look, 57 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 2: I don't want you to panic, but it might be 58 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,959 Speaker 2: a good idea if you pack a bag because there's 59 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 2: a fire over in the other suburb and it's quite smoky. 60 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,839 Speaker 1: Well, it wasn't just a fire, it was a massive bushfire. 61 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly right. So I went up to the top 62 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 2: of our backyard. Our backyard is like three tiers, so 63 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 2: I went at the top and there was just smoke 64 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 2: billowing out and it looked so close. So I walked 65 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 2: down the stairs trying not to panic, and I got 66 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 2: my suitcase out, and you really learn what's important to you. 67 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 2: So Reese's like, just grab a couple of things. We'll 68 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 2: stay with Mum and dad tonight, and you know, just 69 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 2: grab anything that's important. And sadly, the most important things 70 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 2: to me were my childhood's soft toys, and Reese just 71 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 2: cracked it. I came out with my little suitcase and 72 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 2: my big penguin under my arm. 73 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: He's like, are you serious. I did also hear a 74 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: little whisper that you tried to take your Smeg cooking 75 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 1: appliances with you as well. Yes, I may have tried 76 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: to sneak my Smeg mix out with me. 77 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 2: But I wasn't allowed to anyway. Jokes aside, though. It 78 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 2: was really scary, but luckily on Monday the rain started 79 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 2: and it literally extinguished the fire, well not so much 80 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 2: distinguished it, but got it to a place where it 81 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 2: was contained, so we were allowed to go home. And 82 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 2: it was such a relief to be finally back home. 83 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 2: I know it was only like over twenty four hours, 84 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 2: but it was just such an unsettling time. 85 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 3: Oh and by the way, why are you apastrophe are 86 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 3: emails means you are? 87 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 4: Why do you are? 88 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: Means you're You know, I can't believe I even thought 89 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: I'm getting back together with you. We are so over. 90 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 5: Fine by Mary. 91 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: Well, let's get into our social dilemma of the week, 92 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: and today we're going to be talking about presents at 93 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 1: baby showers. Now, I've got admit I've only ever been 94 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: to one baby shower, and I don't think you guys 95 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: have actually been to any. 96 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 2: I have been to one, but it was like a 97 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 2: mixed baby shower, so the mum and dad and all 98 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 2: their friends were there, so it wasn't your traditional girly 99 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 2: baby shower. 100 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: I've actually never been to one. I don't know that 101 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 1: might be an unusual thing for someone who's thirty one. 102 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: I have been invited, but I was not free that day, 103 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: so I haven't experienced the whole gift giving or gift purchasing. 104 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: But those people that haven't been to a baby shower, 105 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: the tradition is that the mum to be will sit 106 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 1: around and all the guests will watch as they go 107 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 1: through present by present, so they'll actually announce this present 108 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 1: is from Kate, and then everyone looks at it and comments. 109 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: I feel like I've seen that on the cut ash 110 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: and lots of American movies, but I didn't know if 111 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: it necessarily happened at baby showers. At the baby shower 112 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: I went to, it didn't happen. I've got to say 113 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: I did feel really awkward when I went to a 114 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 1: baby shower and they were opening gifts in front of everyone, 115 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: because I suddenly thought, oh my god, is this even 116 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: an appropriate gift to give. I've got to say, I 117 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: went and shopped with you to find this gift because 118 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: we don't really know much about baby showers, as you 119 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 1: can see, and the gifts that should be given. 120 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 2: We did spend a lot of time in kama. I 121 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 2: don't know if that's frowned upon. I don't know if 122 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 2: that's too cheap. 123 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: But we thought, well, let's buy, you know, lots. 124 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 2: Of different little toys and stuff. But we ended up 125 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 2: getting a gift that was for a twelvemonth. 126 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it was like the gift was too old. 127 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: But we've had somebody right in and they've asked us, 128 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 1: is this correct etiquette at a baby shower? Should people 129 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: be opening presents in front of their guests? What do 130 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: you guys think? Well, personally, I feel like it does 131 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: add a fun element to the day seeing what everyone 132 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: bought the pregnant person, but at the same trying the 133 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: mum to be the mom to be. But at the 134 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: same time, if you're sort of a fringe friend and 135 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 1: you haven't spent as much as other people, I can 136 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 1: see how it could be quite awkward. For example, if 137 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: you're the best friend, of course you're going to spend 138 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: more than some fringe friends. So that's my issue with it. 139 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 2: I got to say, I, at the best of times, 140 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 2: don't like opening gifts in front of people. Christmas Day 141 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 2: is a little bit different because everyone's opening presence. It's 142 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 2: a bit of fun, But you know, on your birthday, well, 143 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 2: I mean, I know we share our birthday, but there 144 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 2: is that kind of pressure on you to react to 145 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 2: the gifts. So I don't know if I'd actually want 146 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 2: to be really performative with opening gifts at my baby shower. 147 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 1: But again, if I have picked out a really lovely gift, 148 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: I do like seeing the person's reaction, So I'm really 149 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: torn about it. Do you think it's normal for people 150 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: to have a gift registry at baby shows? No? No, 151 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 1: I think that's a wedding thing, isn't it. I've been 152 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: to a Hen's party where the person had two Hens 153 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: parties and there was a gift registry for that as well, 154 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: and the cheapest thing was fifty dollars. Wow. 155 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's a little bit too much 156 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 2: because normally at a Hen's party, I know where it's 157 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 2: sort of verging on a different topic, but I feel 158 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 2: like at a Hen's party you normally pay your own 159 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 2: way anyway. So perhaps if the Hen's party has been 160 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 2: put on and you don't have to pay anything, maybe 161 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 2: bring a gift. 162 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: I think it's I did not know it was a 163 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: thing that you had to bring a gift to a 164 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: Hen's party, Like, is that actually a thing? Because I've 165 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: been to Hen's parties and I've never bought a gift because, 166 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: as you said, I've paid to be there. Well, to 167 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,119 Speaker 1: answer Kate's question, they did actually put on the event 168 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: for everyone and provide food, but I don't know how 169 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: much the bridesmaid's paid for it. That's so interesting. 170 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 4: One. 171 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like a real asshole because I 172 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: didn't bring a Hen's Party gift to our best friends 173 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: hens party. I don't think it's common. I think this 174 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: might have just been and you know. 175 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Owen, if you're listening there that well, I 176 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 2: don't know. I think maybe a gift registry might be 177 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 2: a good idea for a baby shower, because you don't 178 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 2: want to get you know, ten I'm trying to even 179 00:07:58,960 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 2: think ten Rattles. 180 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: Was going to say, but I don't know if people 181 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: buy Rattles anything. I think having a gift registry for 182 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: a baby shower is a bit ott because then I 183 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: feel like it's awkward. If you're a fringe friend and 184 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: you're going to it, then they're going to know exactly 185 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: how much you've spent. Yeah, there is something awkward about that. 186 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: But the other issue is if you're then doubling up 187 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: on the same sort of things. 188 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I suppose you can't go wrong with buying baby 189 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 2: clothes like they're always going to wear them. 190 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: What about when they build sort of things out of nappies? 191 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: Is that is that a good thing to bring? What 192 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: do you mean? 193 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 2: I don't know, I remember seeing maybe it was on 194 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 2: the Kardashians or something. They had all these nappies in it. 195 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, a year's supply of nappies. I've seen a cake 196 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 1: made out of na it was a year supply. It 197 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: was like it was built. I don't know to stalk 198 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: or I don't know. You can tell none of us 199 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: have kids here. That would you guys say you were 200 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: having a baby, Would you have a baby shower and 201 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: open the gifts in front of everyone? You know what? 202 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: I might actually have one of those gender reveals. What 203 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: do you guys think about that? I mean, I feel 204 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: like they're either Vergin on Taki or fun. I'd be 205 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: too embarrassed to have one, I think because everyone I've 206 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: spoken to recently is like, like, I feel like it's 207 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: something you do if you're an influencer, but it's not 208 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: something that real people seem to do. So you know, 209 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: that's not throwing shade at anybody. Like I feel like 210 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: it'd be quite cool to have a gender reveal, but 211 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 1: it depends is this. I feel like maybe it's a 212 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: private moment you are, you know what, though, I feel 213 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: like I want to be like Steph less Smith standing 214 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: on an oval with Brandon with this big shotgun in hand, 215 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 1: shooting out either blue or pink. I haven't you heard 216 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: about all those deaths. 217 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 2: I think we've spoken about it on the podcast all 218 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 2: there's deaths that have occurred at gender reveal parties when those. 219 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 1: Guns go wrong. 220 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 2: I think i'd more like, oh, I don't know. You know, 221 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 2: the cake and you cut it and the liquid comes out? 222 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: The liquid do you mean a different color? Yeah, like 223 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 1: the blue or pink? Sorry, is it one of those 224 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: like grotesque cakes at baby showers? Or it cuts open 225 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: and it's like a vagina and it's like a baby's 226 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: head and blood coming out. I don't know if you're 227 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: likewed to say vagina on the podcast La, I've listened 228 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 1: to so many podcasts and that's not a rude word. 229 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: Or just wrap it up, CA. Do you think it's 230 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: tacky or not? I don't think it's tacky. 231 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 2: I don't know if I would do it because I 232 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 2: don't like opening presents in front of people, But I 233 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 2: think each to their own. 234 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: I think it depends on the event. Sorry, what do 235 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: you mean by the event. 236 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 2: I mean if it's some big show off thing where 237 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 2: there's a gift registry I say open the presence, but 238 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 2: if it's in a low key event, you have a 239 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 2: table where you put the presence, and you open them 240 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 2: in the comfort of your own home where no one's there, 241 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 2: and then you can comment on whether you like the 242 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 2: gifts or not. 243 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: Do you know I think you do. Yeah, you wait 244 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: until after, and it's just when you're with your mum 245 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: and your sisters or your best friend and you open 246 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: it together, not in front of everybody. Yeah, you know what. 247 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: The more we talk about it, I think I'm almost 248 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: sold on this sitting around getting presents idea. I don't 249 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:36,839 Speaker 1: think there's anything wrong with it at all. I think 250 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 1: they're embarrassed. I find it so embarrassing opening presents in 251 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: front of people, especially if you don't like it. But 252 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: then again, it's all baby stuff, so I'd be pretty 253 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: neutral to whatever. There's a peer of pressure there to 254 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: get you a nice presence. Well, I would love to 255 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: hear what everyone in our community thinks, especially people that 256 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: have had their own baby shower or have attended more 257 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: than one baby shower. 258 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 5: You know that was Michael and Carrol. 259 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: She's wondering when we're gonna come over and see the beat. 260 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: Oh see the baby again with the baby? Who are they? 261 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 3: Oh? 262 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: As this guy used to live in the building. They 263 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: keep calling us to see the baby. 264 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 4: You gotta see the baby. When are you going to 265 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 4: see the baby? 266 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 5: If they just send us a tape? 267 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 3: No, maybe, if they. 268 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: Wait a few more months, it won't be a baby anymore. 269 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 1: Anyone have to see it. 270 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's get into the influencer rap. And I really 271 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 2: want to talk about Shanni Grimman's new boyfriend, Jacob Tompkins. 272 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 2: Now he has officially become an influencer this week, posting 273 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 2: his first sponsored post. 274 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 1: What did you guys think about this? Well, it's clear 275 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: there's so much interest in him already. Shanny shared on 276 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: her Instagram story that her instacear reviews had grown to 277 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 1: three hundred thousand that week. And I think that's because 278 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: everyone just wants to catch a glimpse of him. Did 279 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: she acknowledge that this was because of her boyfriend or 280 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: she was just sort of saying she can't believe she's 281 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: had so many views. All the follower actually wrote in 282 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: saying we all want to see your boyfriends. I think 283 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: she is she does realize that it's because of him. 284 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 2: Well, as you said, I feel like she does know. 285 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 2: She is posting a lot about him, and on the 286 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 2: twenty second January she actually tagged him in a post 287 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 2: and at that point his followers went up by nearly 288 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 2: five thousand. 289 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: Well, he's been appearing a lot in her Instagram stories 290 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: and I don't know, this is just my opinion. They've 291 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: been quite cringe. So he was doing a handstand in 292 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,079 Speaker 1: front of the mirror, and another one was him running 293 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: towards it, jumping on her, making out with her, and 294 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: then saying I've missed you. I haven't seen you for 295 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: a minute. Yeah. 296 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 2: I don't want to be that negative person, but there's 297 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 2: something that doesn't sit quite well with me with this 298 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 2: Jacob guy. Like he's so good looking, and I don't 299 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 2: want to put him into a box because he is 300 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 2: so good looking, but I just feel like there's some 301 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 2: ulterior motive and the fact that he posted a sponsored 302 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 2: post so early on in their relationship, it just puts 303 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 2: big question marks in my mind. 304 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: See, I know where you're coming from. But I also 305 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: feel bad for judging him for doing it, because I mean, 306 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: it would be really hard if you're going out with 307 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 1: an influencer and then suddenly there's all this interest in you, 308 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: and people are approaching you and offering you big money 309 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: to do posts. I feel like he's within his right 310 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: to be able to do it, and you know, Shanny 311 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: might be helping him out, trying to encourage him to 312 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: do these things, but it is. It would be so 313 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: hard being an influencer not knowing if people were actually 314 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: using you for your fame. 315 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 2: I do feel really mean saying that, because I do 316 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 2: like Shannie Grimm and I've been watching her for years 317 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 2: and I feel like I know her and I think 318 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 2: I want what's best for her, And it does seem 319 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 2: really disingenuine posting a sponsored post as soon as you 320 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 2: start dating her. 321 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: I think it's because we've seen what's happened with Shanny's ex, 322 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: Jonathan Sower, and how he's sort of used the fame 323 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: that he gained dating Sharny to then start his own 324 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: influencer career, and then the fact he's gone off and 325 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 1: dated another influencer. I feel like now we're all a 326 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,599 Speaker 1: bit suspicious of her new boyfriends. 327 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 2: The thing with Jonathan, though, was he actually had his 328 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 2: own life, like he was an accountant, and he sort 329 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 2: of slowly became an influencer as Shany's career took off, 330 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 2: so it didn't seem as bad at the time as 331 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 2: you say. He now is dating another influencer, Madison Woolly. However, 332 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 2: I feel like you are an influencer. Those are the 333 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 2: circles you kind of socialize in which. 334 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 1: Annie actually did a true or false Q and A 335 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: and I thought it was really interesting because someone wrote 336 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 1: in saying I think you jump into relationships too quickly, 337 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 1: and she actually answered the question this is what she said. 338 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 5: I freaked out to my coach when I when like 339 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 5: Jacob come into my life because six months after like 340 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 5: coming out of a relationship, I was like, that is 341 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 5: too soon, Like that is fucking freaking me out. And 342 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 5: my coach was like, why would you push something so 343 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 5: amazing the way you've worked on yourself for six months, 344 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 5: Like you've grown so much, Like why would you push 345 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 5: this person? You literally have written a manifestationalist and he 346 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 5: literally is hitting every single thing. It's like, I'm not 347 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 5: just going to be like, nah, I've just got out 348 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 5: of a relationship six months ago, so I'm not gonna 349 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 5: like deal with this. Like I just didn't feel like 350 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 5: that was right and it felt right to move forward. 351 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 2: I've gotta say, I would like to know if anyone 352 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 2: who isn't an influencer has a life coach or actually 353 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 2: manifest stuff, because these are all the things you hear 354 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 2: about influencers talking about. I just would be interested to 355 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 2: know of anyone actually really does it. 356 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: I feel I don't, but I feel like people in 357 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: the real world don't have a time to write down 358 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: a manifestation chart of what they seek in a boyfriend. 359 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, she is only twenty three, 360 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: so maybe she does have time. 361 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 2: Or even those daily journaling like I've seen a lot 362 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 2: of influences like Steph clare Smith talking about her journaling 363 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 2: and whatnot. I mean, maybe I'm just jealous. I don't 364 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 2: have time to do it or make time to do it. 365 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: I feel like maybe they're onto something because everyone who's 366 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: successful seems to do manifestation, And I'm like, is it 367 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: because they've manifested their success or is it because they're 368 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: successful and they've got time to do manifesting. I feel 369 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: like I'm not deep enough to do it. I don't know, 370 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: like I couldn't even pinpoint all these things, but you know, 371 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: I want in a part like I actually said Todale 372 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: that maybe we should start doing it, because I said, 373 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: everyone who's like really successful does it. So maybe, like 374 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: with our business, Sophie, we should sit down and do 375 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: some manifesting and see if they actually work. Well, don't 376 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: you just sit around and cut out pictures of things 377 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: that you want and put them on a board. We 378 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: did that at UNI or whatever. Yeah, I'm going to 379 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: put this manifestation out to the universe. My dream car 380 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: is a yellow Beatle. Ever since Bardo and Sophie Monk 381 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: had the yellow Beetle with her Sophie number plate on it, 382 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: So I'm putting that out there to the universe. Could 383 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: I please have a yellow beat I just want to 384 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: see X five. Everyone's like, I want near S, I 385 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: want the rain Drove. I just wanted master c X five. 386 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: Who's been saying they want a Rolls Royce. I went 387 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: to say rain Drover, and then Rolls Royce suddenly came out. 388 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: I'm sure there's people who want a Rolls roy which 389 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: you rich. Look, I wouldn't mind a Landrover or whatever 390 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: it is is, the Landover rain Rover. Let's make a 391 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: manifestation shredding our group. Maybe yeah, Okay, everyone can post 392 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: what they want and we'll see if it comes. Yeah, 393 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: let's be those wagers that do it well. 394 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 2: Moving on, On Tuesday night, celebs spellcheck called out several 395 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 2: influencers for their hypocritical behavior regarding Australia Day. 396 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: Did you guys see these posts? Yeah? I did. They 397 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: were very awkward, they were well. The first person that 398 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: was outed for her hypocritical behavior was pe Nation founder 399 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: Pip Edwards. So in the morning, for those who didn't 400 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: see it, Pip shared a letter to the editor on 401 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: her story that detailed reasons why people shouldn't be celebrating 402 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: January twenty six. In the afternoon, though, it seemed like 403 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: she had a bit of a change of heart because 404 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:14,479 Speaker 1: she posted this beautiful shot of the harbor and wrote 405 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: a data celebrate the land that we live and thrive on. 406 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 1: I love you Australia. What did you guys think about 407 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: these posts? It just baffles me that these influencers share 408 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: all of these details, because if you're gonna be hypocritical 409 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 1: and post something like that in the morning and then 410 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: go to an event, I do understand why are you 411 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 1: sharing photos of it? If you're gonna do it, don't 412 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: share a photo of it. Yeah. 413 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 2: I mean, if you don't want to be caught out 414 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 2: for virtue signaling, then just don't instagram your event that 415 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 2: you go to. I mean, the best thing would be 416 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,199 Speaker 2: if they actually stood by what they put posted in 417 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,479 Speaker 2: the morning and did the right thing. And the fact was, 418 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 2: like I don't know if you saw the Instagram stories 419 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 2: that followed, but it was such a luxurious event. I mean, 420 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 2: her partner Michael Clark was there and they were having 421 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 2: this really elaborate, bougie type of Australia day lunch with 422 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 2: Prawn's right on this this ridiculous view, and I just thought, 423 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 2: who actually wants to see this? 424 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:08,199 Speaker 1: This is only going to piss people off. Exactly Did 425 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: you guys see that they had the Aboriginal flag upside down? 426 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 5: Yeah? 427 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: That was the other disgusting thing. So she was kind 428 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: of showing off as if, oh, you know, we're celebrating 429 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 1: Aboriginal culture and yeah, puts a flag up wrong. I mean, firstly, 430 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: there's a lot of mixed messages here. Firstly, you're saying 431 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 1: the twenty sixth of January isn't the day to celebrate. 432 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: Then you're saying, what a great day to celebrate Australia. 433 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,959 Speaker 1: I love Australia. Then you're putting the flags up together, 434 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 1: but you're so disrespectful that you've put it upside down. 435 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 1: It just seemed very token, is stick. It seemed like, oh, okay, 436 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 1: we've thrown up the Aboriginal flag, we're allowed to celebrate. 437 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: Then it's like, I think you've kind of missed the 438 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: concept of invasion. Day. 439 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 2: Well, Pim has come out and apologized, so on Wednesday afternoon, 440 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 2: she wrote, I want to express my sincere apologies to 441 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 2: those that I have offended. My intentions were always from 442 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 2: a good place in support of all people wanting unity 443 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 2: and community in the country and globally. Innocently did not 444 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 2: realize that the Aboriginal flag was upside down and was 445 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 2: more focused on the idea of raising both flags together 446 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 2: on the one pole, flying as one. 447 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: I understand it was a huge mistake to not know 448 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: at the time, but my intention was never to cause disrespect. 449 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 1: I then made the error of incorrectly using the word 450 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 1: celebrate the land when it should have read acknowledge. Again, 451 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: a big mistake on my part, and for that I 452 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: deeply apologize. 453 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 2: To me, this apology misses the mark. There's a lot 454 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 2: of it wasn't my intention. It's kind of like when 455 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 2: you say I'm sorry, but like she seemed to be 456 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 2: justifying herself when clearly she didn't really understand what Invasion 457 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 2: Day is about. But I don't even think that she 458 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 2: was trying to be offensive. I think she was just 459 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 2: being uneducated about it. Yeah, but that's the offensive thing. 460 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 2: Don't virtue signal and put a post. 461 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 1: Up that's showing oh, yep, I really care about this. 462 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: When you don't care, you only don't care. Yeah. I 463 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: think a lot of people, and want of a better word, 464 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: we're trying to be trendy about it, and we're trying 465 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 1: and I feel like that was. 466 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 2: Her to a tea at the end of the day. 467 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 2: I think it's good that it's trendy that these things 468 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 2: are being discussed. 469 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: However, if your actions aren't going to match up with 470 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 1: what you're putting out there, then it's just empty words. Yeah. 471 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: It's like all the people at the Black Lives Matter 472 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 1: protests that we're taking Instagram photos of themselves there. It's 473 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 1: kind of like, it's good that you're there, but are 474 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 1: you there just to be seen as if you're finding 475 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: for a cause or are you there because you actually 476 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 1: believe in it? 477 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 2: Well, on that topic, Ellie Miles, the former Bachelorette, did 478 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 2: something quite similar. So on the twenty sixth of January, 479 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 2: Ellie actually shed a really great post saying that, look, 480 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 2: she has celebrated Australia Day in the past, but she 481 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 2: kind of has educated herself now and knows that it's 482 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 2: important that they changed the date. She also documented the 483 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 2: fact that she went to a protest in the morning. 484 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 2: So I was watching her stories and I'm like, oh, 485 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 2: this is cool. Then all of a sudden it pops 486 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 2: over and she's obviously finished at the protests, and she's 487 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 2: at a pool party with all these people there taking shots, 488 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:06,360 Speaker 2: singing karaoke, having an amazing time, obviously at an Australia 489 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 2: Day party. 490 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 1: I just could not believe this. I did have a 491 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 1: little bit of a laugh when I read the comments 492 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: on Ellie's Instagram because someone wrote very conflicting messages, you're 493 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: sending out today, change the date or continue to have 494 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 1: Bogan piss ups? And I feel bad, but gosh, it 495 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 1: looked like a Bogan piss up. I have to it 496 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 1: really did. I feel like growing up everyone had the 497 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: tacky Australian bikinis and the thongs, and that just reminded 498 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: me of the vibe of that party. Yeah, that was 499 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 1: definitely the vibe. But they didn't actually have like Ellie 500 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 1: didn't show any of that stuff, but it was the vibe. Well. 501 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 2: One person that was particularly offended by Ellie's behavior was 502 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 2: Abby Chatfield, who. 503 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: I kind of was. I didn't even realize that Ellie 504 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 1: and Abby were on the same series of The Bachelorette, 505 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 1: like I dated each other. 506 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny because I don't really think of Abby 507 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 2: as being a Bachelorette contestant anymore anyway, So as seeds above, 508 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 2: it doesn't she Yeah, she does, And so Abby took 509 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 2: to her Instagram story and wrote, you aren't being the 510 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 2: change if you're participating in harmful traditions like I don't know, 511 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 2: celebrating genocide on stolen land. This is the easiest fucking 512 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 2: decision to just not hot. As one hundred is now 513 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 2: on the Saturday, you can celebrate the long weekend with 514 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 2: your friends. Then I did without an Australian flag in sight, 515 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 2: but as a public holiday and it's hot, let them 516 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 2: have a pool party. Simply no, it's a public holiday, 517 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 2: so use the time off work to do something to 518 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 2: broaden your understanding of the harm colonization has caused. It's 519 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 2: hot every day in summer. We live in fucking Australia 520 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 2: and climate change is happening. We have a lot of 521 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 2: hot days to choose from laughing my ass off. If 522 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 2: you are actually listening to speakers at these rallies, you 523 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 2: wouldn't be able to have fun in the afternoon. You 524 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 2: want to dig deeper, feel a responsibility to be uncomfortable 525 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 2: to hopefully learn something. The level of cognitive dissonance is 526 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 2: believing that you can actually attend a rally and then 527 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,360 Speaker 2: just pop over to your pool party if something else. Anyway, 528 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 2: my followers all know this. We'll chat about it next 529 00:22:59,040 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 2: week on the pod. 530 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: I'm hanging out for that episode. I know that was 531 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: a real burn, but it was warranted. 532 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 2: I think Abby really enjoyed calling out Ellie. I think 533 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 2: there was a bit of beef between the two of 534 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 2: them on Matt series of The Bachelor. 535 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: Well she's actually come out and apologize, hasn't she. 536 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 2: Kate, Yeah, Well, Ellie did apologize, she said, to answer 537 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,640 Speaker 2: people's comments from yesterday, there is nothing else I can 538 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 2: say in this situation other than I am sorry, I 539 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,479 Speaker 2: had a complete lapse of judgment and have a lot 540 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 2: of regret for my actions. I sincerely apologize for upsetting anyone. 541 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 2: I stand by my attendance at the Change of the 542 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 2: Date protest and feel that it is an incredibly important issue. 543 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 2: I truly wasn't being insincere with my attendants. 544 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: I know how it looks. We all make mistakes. I 545 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 1: made one yesterday, and all I can say, once again 546 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: from the bottom of my heart, is that I truly 547 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: am sorry. Do you think that these people just lack perspective? 548 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: I just don't get it. 549 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 2: Because your Instagram story plays it out for you. A 550 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 2: lot of people go back, they flick through their own, 551 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 2: they have a look. 552 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 1: Could you not see that the optics of what she 553 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,479 Speaker 1: was putting out was not good at the time. I 554 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: also feel like a lot of people were angry. On 555 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,719 Speaker 1: the twenty sixth of January. Everyone had been to the rallies, 556 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 1: everyone was feeling passionate, and then everyone was on Instagram 557 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 1: because they weren't out celebrating and they were just going 558 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: far out. We're going to get you, guys, because it 559 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 1: annoys people so much when they see influencers doing this 560 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: sort of behavior. Well, it just seemed like she was 561 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: playing the part here. I am at the rally. I've 562 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 1: got that done. Now I'm going to go enjoy myself 563 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: in the pool, you know, like on Snapchat when you 564 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 1: send it to the wrong friend. Yeah. I feel like, 565 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 1: say she meant maybe she meant to put those instance 566 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,679 Speaker 1: stories on private just to close friends, Yeah, and then 567 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: decided to release them to the world. Or did you 568 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 1: guys see jar Day Tunchi also called out on celeb 569 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 1: spell check. I feel like this was the worst post 570 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: of the evening because I feel like it was the 571 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 1: most insincere and the biggest virtue signaling going on by 572 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 1: jar Day. So jar Day just posted a change the 573 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: date graphic that I saw a lot of other influencers 574 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 1: posting then, kind of like the black square that was 575 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 1: going around everyone. Yeah, it was sort of that vibe. 576 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: And then she followed up by posting lots of pictures 577 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 1: of her boyfriend in budgie smugglers. Fortunately they weren't Australian 578 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: budgie smugglers, and they're back at this beachside mansion on 579 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: the waterfront. I'd like to know whose house it actually 580 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: is because they sort of randomly pop up there but 581 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 1: don't really say where it is. I mean, I might 582 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: have missed this. Maybe it's like a friend like mine 583 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 1: that has a house. But then she put a selfie 584 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 1: up and wrote soul is happy, so she was obviously 585 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,919 Speaker 1: not really feeling the message that she posted earlier that morning. 586 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 1: Well what was it that celeb'spelcheck actually uncovered? Well, so 587 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 1: they juxtapositioned Jardey's post about change in the date with 588 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,199 Speaker 1: a post that she made on Facebook in twenty seventeen, 589 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: which read their speculation that Aboriginals weren't from here originally 590 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: dot dot dot look it up. Do you know what 591 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 1: blew my mind the fact that this was from twenty seventeen, 592 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: because I know, Celeb Spelchek has done a bit of 593 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: a deep dive in the past and uncovered some unsavory 594 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 1: comments influencers, but they all appeared to be in two 595 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 1: thousand and nine, so quite a long time ago, when 596 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: the discourse and narrative was a little bit different. Do 597 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 1: you know, I can just imagine Spellcheck sitting there, like, 598 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 1: you know how when you're schedule in posts for a client, 599 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 1: like what are we going to post for Australia. Oh 600 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: we've got this old post of jar Day talking about 601 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: Indigenous Australians. Let's pop this up. Well. 602 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 2: Celeb's spellcheck did say in the comments that this isn't 603 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,360 Speaker 2: the first time Jarde's posted something offensive. Apparently there's been 604 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 2: a lot of homophobic and other racial slurs found on 605 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 2: her Facebook page. And I mean, as we've said, there 606 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 2: is a difference I think between digging something up that 607 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 2: was posted, you know, ten to fifteen years ago, but 608 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 2: considering this was only four years ago, it's pretty disgusting. 609 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: She is twenty four? Does that come into account at all? 610 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of very educated twenty year 611 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 1: olds out there who would not be making these Was 612 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: she an influencer then as well? 613 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 2: I don't think we can say that she was twenty 614 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 2: that she gets away with saying something dumb like that. 615 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not saying that, but you've got to 616 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: take people's agenty consideration, how they use social media. 617 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,880 Speaker 2: I mean these days, I mean she firstly, social media 618 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 2: is her job, So how dumb is she to put 619 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 2: that out? 620 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 4: Yeah? 621 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: Why are you burning these accounts? Like if I was her, 622 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 1: I'd be deleting everything on Twitter? She needs to take 623 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: her Twitter and Facebook down. It's just such an uneducated 624 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 1: comment as well. Well, do you know what she does 625 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: need to do? She actually needs to acknowledge what was 626 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,120 Speaker 1: wrong with what she said and apologize. She is one 627 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: of the only people that actually hasn't apologized over her behavior. Instead, 628 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 1: on Wednesday afternoon, she was posting pictures of kill Miller 629 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: and Mark Clothing. Well, particularly when she's an influencer who 630 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: has a side account which apparently shows the real her 631 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: and unedited moments, you think that might be the perfect 632 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 1: forum to actually apologize. 633 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 2: Do you know what, though, I remember when all those 634 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 2: real and broad accounts started popping up, and I was like, Oh, 635 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 2: that's pretty cool. And now it's just like, if you're 636 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 2: an influencer, you're actually real and raw on your account 637 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 2: and you don't need a separate account. I kind of 638 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 2: feel like that sort of disingenuine now. 639 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: Do you guys think it was a hard one though 640 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 1: for influencers on the twenty sixth of January, because you 641 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 1: either they either got slam for putting something up or 642 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,919 Speaker 1: a lot of them went really quiet as well, and 643 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 1: it made people question, oh, are they doing something that 644 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 1: we don't you know that they don't want us to 645 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: see that. Thought actually did cross my mind. 646 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 2: With Steph Claire Smith and Laura Henshaw, now their company 647 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 2: keep It Cleaner, posted a series of really helpful and 648 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 2: educational facts about Australia Day and some advice about how 649 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 2: you should actually spend the day, and they suggested working 650 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 2: on Australia Day rather than actually celebrating it as a 651 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 2: day off. However, it was quite clear that Steph and 652 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 2: Laura were up at Steph's family property up at the 653 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 2: River and they were literally mia on social media all day, 654 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 2: but then went back to their regular posting today. To me, 655 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 2: that was a little bit strange, But as you said, 656 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 2: I can kind of see why some influencers aren't posting 657 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 2: about it all because then they open themselves up to 658 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 2: being called out, especially with pages like celeb spell check, 659 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 2: because they've got receipts. They're not letting anyone get away 660 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 2: with virtue signaling. 661 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 4: Hello, Hello, everyone, call me an ambulance because I'm in trouble. 662 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 4: Time is moving really really slowly and everything is flat. 663 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 4: I need you to call me an ambulance or failing that, 664 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 4: my mummy. 665 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 2: Let's get into snog. Marry and avoid, and thank you 666 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 2: to our listener Beck for sending this one in. She 667 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 2: asked us, out of Jonathan Soer, Kurt Tills, and the 668 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 2: Honey Badger, who we would snog, marry and avoid amy quickly. 669 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 2: I want a quick answer on this one. 670 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 1: I've got to say I'd marry Kurt Tills because he 671 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: does videography and I'm the videographer for our business, so 672 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: I feel like we'd be able to create some epic content. 673 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: I oh, Jesus is hard. I'm gonna say I'd avoid 674 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: Jonathan Sower because I think, I don't know, I feel 675 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: like we've got enough beef with Madison WOOLYI. She doesn't 676 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: seem to like our podcast very much, so I wouldn't 677 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: want to do anything else to annoy her. And then 678 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: I've got to say I'd probably snog the Honey Badger then, 679 00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: because he's pretty funny. Like he's not my type at all, 680 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 1: but it's a pretty interesting story. Yeah, So I'm going 681 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: to shake it up. I'm gonna do a little bit differently. 682 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: I think I would snug Jonathan Sour because out of 683 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: all of them, he probably is the best looking, but 684 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: I would not marry him because I don't think there's 685 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: much going on up there. I don't think I could 686 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: have a great conversation. He's an accountant. That's a bit hard, 687 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: but he's so self absorbed. Yeah for a kiss, but 688 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: you know, apart from that, yeah, i'd feel embarrassed because 689 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: I feel like he'd spend more time in front of 690 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: the mirror than me. That's what you want in a guy. 691 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: And I'm really tossing up between the Honey Badger and 692 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: Kurt to marry because I feel like I really like 693 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 1: the Honey Badger on sas. I don't know, like, no, 694 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: well not that, but I mean, he was pretty impressive 695 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: on there, Like he was very fit, quite a specimen 696 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 1: on there, quite a nice piece on there. But we've 697 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: got to say that Sofa was impressed by Brandon's netball ability, 698 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: So I feel like so doing stuff like that impresses me. 699 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: You'd like to be tackled by the Honey Badger. Would 700 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: I have actually met Kurt in real life for a 701 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 1: story that we did, so he's actually better looking in 702 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: real life, So I feel like, I don't know, I 703 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: feel like Kurt was quite lovely in real life, So 704 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna marry Kurt because I actually go out with 705 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: a videographer at the moment, so I feel like he's 706 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:15,719 Speaker 1: at the moment available. Don't mean Randon is so jealous 707 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: of you meeting Kurt. It's like what anyway, So I reckon, 708 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: I'd pick Kurt to marry because he's more similar to Brandon, 709 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,719 Speaker 1: and I probably would have to avoid the honey Badger. No, actually, 710 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: I'm going to swap it. I'm going to pash the 711 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: honey Badger because of his heroic efforts on se s 712 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: Let's roage on. You just copied me. I have efforts 713 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: of tackling women and not that. But you know he got. 714 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 2: So you guys have copied each other again. Yeah, so 715 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to be. 716 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: A bit different. Oh, it is tough. It's hard because 717 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: I wouldn't really want to marry you and smell any 718 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: of them. Well, no, look, I'll say Mary Kurt because 719 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: he seems like a trooper looking after Sarah, like he 720 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 1: always seems to be doing nice things for her. So 721 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 1: I say Mary Kurt. And also it's pretty cute. I 722 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 1: was going to say Fox is so cute, So yeah, 723 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 1: Mary Kurt. 724 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,479 Speaker 2: I would avoid Jonathan Sour because I just find him 725 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 2: so irritating. I know, and I would snog the honey badger. 726 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: I spose everyone's got to be the something for the 727 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: honey badger. Actually, do you know what, I'm gonna swap it? 728 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 2: Jonathan Sourer is pretty hot, so I'll snog him and 729 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 2: avoid honey badger. 730 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: You know what, it would be Jonathan when he was 731 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: going out with Shanny, when he was a little bit 732 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 1: more natural pre even years. He's a little cute little teeth. Look, 733 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: I really want someone to send one in that we 734 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: have differing opinions on, because it would be nice to 735 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: have a bit of a differentleman to know what our 736 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: types are. That would be interesting if people can have 737 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: a thing that what will throw us off. It's funny 738 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: because in real life we actually date very different people, 739 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: but then our celebrity crushes are usually the same. So 740 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,479 Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, there was that one time when 741 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: we all liked the same guy and said we'd never 742 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 1: talk about it again. That didn't end up. 743 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 3: Well, you said on Instagram that you and Ma didn't 744 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 3: break up, but then why did John follow each other? 745 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: Okay, can be a little bit Maddie. 746 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 3: Okay, I think the one that everyone's talking about is 747 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 3: literally like you went out one night, I was in 748 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 3: bed and I literally fall asleep. So Maddie's like thinking 749 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 3: I was like shit at her, but I was like 750 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 3: completely just at home fall asleep when I was angry 751 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 3: at you, So I think you just yeah, that was 752 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 3: literally it. 753 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: Well, let's get into our recommendations of the week. Kate, 754 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 1: you go to kick us off. Mine is a food 755 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 1: one again. I want to recommend moon milk. So it's 756 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 1: made my naked harvest and it literally has changed my life. 757 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 1: I have it before I. 758 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 2: Go to bed, and I'm not the best sleeper, but 759 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 2: I have been falling asleep on the couch like a baby, 760 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 2: so relaxed and comfortable. Actually to the point where I'm 761 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 2: quite like out of it when I start drinking it, 762 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 2: Like it's a nice feeling, like. 763 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: You just feel really relaxed and zen. I've been loving 764 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: it and it tastes like hot chocolate. M it is 765 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 1: just well my recommendation. I was gonna say it's weird 766 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: but for me, but it actually isn't. It is the 767 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 1: documentary on Hugh Hefner on Netflix. It's actually called American Playboy. 768 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: The Hugh Hefni story, and I say that it's actually 769 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: not a weird one because back in the day we 770 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: actually used to watch the Girls of the Playboy Mansion, 771 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,720 Speaker 1: because that's not weird. It was hilarious that show anyway. 772 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 1: So it is a ten part documentary, but it's it's 773 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,439 Speaker 1: a really different documentary because it's normally in the sense 774 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,399 Speaker 1: that they interview people in his life. But then it's 775 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 1: kind of weird because then part of it is an 776 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 1: acted out story and it's this guy playing Hugh Hefner 777 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: and he's speaking from first person, but then it's weird 778 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 1: because he'll be watching a TV and then the actual 779 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 1: real q Heffni will be on the TV. It's just 780 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 1: very conduct as much. But it's actually a really interesting watch. 781 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 1: I did not know that Marilyn Munroe was the first 782 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 1: woman to be featured on Playboy. I really do you 783 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 1: know what? Sorry, when you spoke about the TV show, 784 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: ILL like to think about was that episode when there 785 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 1: was a girl that was like, what's it called the 786 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 1: Playmate of the Month, Yeah, Playmate of the Month or 787 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 1: the no, I think it was the year and they 788 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: had a big party for her and they had a 789 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: special photo shoot and her dad came to the event 790 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: and was like on. 791 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 2: Set at the photo shoot, it was the weirdest thing 792 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 2: I've ever seen. It's always stuck with me. 793 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: It was weird, wasn't it. Something that was really interesting 794 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 1: was in the sixties they had a nightclub where Playboy 795 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 1: Bunny's trained to be waitresses there, and the rigorous training 796 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: they went through was insane. I love that your knowledge 797 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 1: of the Playboy Mansion is like zero before watching this. 798 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: That's quite well, though. 799 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 2: I do find it hilarious because when Sophie really loves 800 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,959 Speaker 2: a TV show or a podcast, she ends up telling 801 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 2: me like everything that happened in it, So I don't 802 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 2: want to watch it. 803 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 1: So I think we've got to cut you off there. 804 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,240 Speaker 1: I have actually only four episodes in, so I can't. Actually, 805 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: I think the ending is that he does. But Amy, 806 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 1: what about you. I've got to recommend the Jem mccollins podcast. 807 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys will I have listened 808 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: to it. I haven't for a long time. When she's 809 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: she started talking about aliens. Oh yeah, she loves aliens. 810 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,320 Speaker 1: And you can tell where she gets all her any 811 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,359 Speaker 1: thoughts from. It's clearly from her mum. And dad because 812 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 1: she was telling a story the other day where she 813 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: said that her dad spoke through his mind to an 814 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:05,280 Speaker 1: alien on the train. Wow, what this is the content 815 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 1: you're consuming? I love it because it's actually just so 816 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 1: positive and uplifting. No, but she is. She gets asked 817 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 1: these ridiculous questions and her responses are hilarious. Well, I 818 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,320 Speaker 1: think that's all we have time for you this Friday. 819 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,839 Speaker 1: We hope you all have a wonderful weekend and we 820 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 1: look forward to being in your ears on Monday. If 821 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 1: you have enjoyed today's episode, could you please leave us 822 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 1: a five star rating and a review because it really 823 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 1: does help support the podcast, And thank you to everyone 824 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,360 Speaker 1: who has been leaving lovely reviews recently. 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