1 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,479 Speaker 1: It's the Happy Family's podcast. 2 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 2: It's the podcast for the time poor parent who just 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 2: wants answers. Now. 4 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 1: I can't wait for today's older Better Tomorrow, Kylie, I 5 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: have got the best older Better tomorrow ever, like literally 6 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: the best ever. 7 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 2: I can't wait for it either, because I'm lying on 8 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 2: the ground while we I don't have a cheer up. 9 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: We've cleaned out my office, we're waiting under your chair, 10 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: and you're literally on the ground. You actually don't have 11 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:36,840 Speaker 1: the same energy you normally do. You sound a little 12 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: bit too laid back. 13 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 2: Oh okay, I could go to sleep, all right. 14 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,279 Speaker 1: So for those of you who knew the podcast, what 15 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 1: we do every Friday is we talk about how we 16 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 1: want to do better tomorrow. We review the week that was. 17 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: We look at either what we did really well or 18 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: we look at well what we didn't do so well, 19 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: and how we can be better parents. Tricky thing, especially 20 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: with me Kyle over the last few weeks. My job 21 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 1: is to make other people's families happier, which sometimes means 22 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: leaving our families. That I can go and do that. 23 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: And I don't think it's any exaggeration to say that 24 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,919 Speaker 1: while I've always traveled a reasonable amount over the last 25 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: couple of weeks, maybe the last couple of months. I've 26 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: probably traveled more than any other time in our lives, 27 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 1: which makes a little better. It's more really tricky. I 28 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 1: haven't got a lot to say. 29 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 2: Well, you said you've got an awesome one today. I do. 30 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: In fact, I want to mention two things. First of all, 31 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: last Saturday night, I had a really tough night, but 32 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: also a really meaningful and important night. I spoke at 33 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: Lifeline's annual gala ball. I don't know how many people 34 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: were in the room. I'm going to guess somewhere out 35 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: a thousand people at the International Conference Center at Darling Harbor, 36 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: looking out over the harbor and the city. Just such 37 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: a stunning venue, such a gorgeous room. And I was 38 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: asked to give the after dinner speech on a night 39 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: where Lifeline does their very best to raise as much 40 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: money as possible. Did you know if you would have 41 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: guessed how many calls would you imagine that Lifeline receives 42 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: on an annual basis. Last year, by the way, they 43 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: had the most calls they've ever had. 44 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 2: I wouldn't have a clue. I'm guessing it would be 45 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 2: in the tens of thousands. 46 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, keep going, oh hundreds, keep going. 47 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 2: Wow, No, I can't even begin. Are we talking like 48 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 2: a million? 49 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: Yeah we are. We're talking over a million, a little 50 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: over a million calls every single year. That translates to 51 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: wait for it, three thousand, three thousand telephone calls per day. 52 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: I get goosebumps just talking about it. The numbers are 53 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: absolutely astonishing. If you work that out, three thousand calls 54 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: a day means that there's a called Lifeline every twenty 55 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: eight seconds. That there's somebody I get weepy about it. 56 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: There's somebody in crisis every twenty eight seconds who says 57 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 1: I need someone to talk to one of the I 58 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: don't have anyone to talk to, so I therefore have 59 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: to call Lifeline. I have to call and talk to 60 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: a stranger, either because I don't have someone or I 61 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: can't talk to the people who are close to me. 62 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 1: So in terms of having an important conversation, I can't 63 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: think of a more important group of people to talk 64 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: to than Lifeline and all of their sponsors, all of 65 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: their volunteers, well sorry, not all of them, but many 66 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: of their sponsors and contributors were there, and it was 67 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: a big fundraising night, and I was asked to speak 68 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: about the death of Logan, our nephew in November last year. 69 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: Hardest talk I've ever given, without question, hardest talk I've 70 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: ever given, and it meant leaving you again. We had 71 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: a daughter's birthday on Friday, so I flew home from 72 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: Sydney so that I could be there for her birthday 73 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: on Friday, so that I could fly back to Sydney 74 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: to speak at the Lifeline ball, so that then I 75 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: could fly home for Father's Day, so that I could 76 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: fly back to Sydney because I had an event at 77 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: Bangor Primary School in Sydney's South on Monday. Oh my goodness, 78 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: who put Father's Day right and our daughter's birthday right 79 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: in the middle of all of these events in Sydney 80 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: that I was doing. We saw so much money raised 81 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: for Lifeline that night, which it was so gratifying, and 82 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: that madely happened off the back of my talk. So 83 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: I gave the talk, which is obviously designed to help 84 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: people to recognize the importance of this service. And while 85 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: that's not and I'll do better tomorrow for our family 86 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: or what we're doing in our family, it's just over 87 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: the last few weeks, I've had the opportunity to speak 88 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 1: to some of the most important and wonderful people that 89 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 1: I've ever spoken to in my entire life, in my 90 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 1: entire career, and I'm just I'm so grateful to do 91 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: the work that I do, and I'm also so grateful 92 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: for the incredible people who are out there doing the 93 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: work that they do, because there are so many good 94 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: people out there. Just an amazing experience. 95 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 2: It was a really, really big night, and unfortunately I 96 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 2: was stuck at home with the kids. You're doing the parenting, 97 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 2: got stuck, but I didn't get to It would have 98 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 2: been nice if you were with me. I didn't get 99 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 2: to be there with you. But I'm curious about what 100 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 2: your second story is. 101 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: Well, my second one is about Father's Day. So I 102 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: came home. I arrived in the afternoon. By the time 103 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: I flew out of Sydney got back home, the day 104 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: was half gone. But we got to spend some really 105 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: nice time with the family, and I just think we're 106 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 1: doing Father's Day better than ever. 107 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 2: I was going to say, you need to preface I 108 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 2: don't think you've had a Father's Day that you have 109 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 2: thoroughly enjoyed in all the time you've been a father. 110 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 1: And there's a whole lot of complexity and a whole 111 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: bunch of reasons around that. And I've got really low expectations, honestly, 112 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 1: but we've just never quite gotten a right. But this 113 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: Father's Day was probably the best, is it? 114 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 2: Because you had zero expectations, expectations, happiness? 115 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 1: No, I think we just got it right. I mean 116 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: I came home and there was time with you, there 117 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 1: was time with the kids, there was no pressure. It 118 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: was a really really nice couple of hours. And then 119 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: we went over to our eldest daughter's house. 120 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,679 Speaker 2: This is literally the first time she's hosted family dinner 121 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 2: in her home. 122 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was so great. And we sat down and 123 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: she and Jared her husban, and Indy, our granddaughter, gave 124 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 1: me my Father's Day gift, which was just so nice. 125 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 1: And inside there was a little tree with Indy's handprints 126 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 1: in green as the leaves of the tree, which was 127 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: super clever and a gorgeous little message. And there was 128 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: also a great big handprint and the message on that 129 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: little tree from Indy, or it was really from Chanel said, 130 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: no matter how to all like gro I'll always look 131 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: up to you. I mean, we've heard that one a lot. 132 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: It's tried, and yet when you're a dad and you 133 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: get that, you just go, oh my god, it's so nice. 134 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: But then there was this other piece of paper and 135 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: it's got this great, big hand, like it's a hand 136 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: that's bigger than mine. Well it's about the same size, 137 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: maybe a touch bigger than mine. And it's in blue 138 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: and it says Happy Father's Day, Justin. And I look 139 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: at the bottom before I read the rest of it, 140 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: and it's Jared, our. 141 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 2: Son in law, and he sput his age next to it. 142 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, he'd Jared twenty six, and he's written to Justin, 143 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: I'll happy Father's Day, Justin. I love your jokes, I 144 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 1: love our steaks, I love our breakfast dates. I love you. 145 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: And I read that that's so nice. But then I 146 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 1: felt really bad about it, and I've actually texted him 147 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 1: about it and apologized because he spelt jokes the O 148 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: looks like a you, and he wrote the word stakes 149 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: wrong and had to sort of say. 150 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 2: What you didn't know is that he was literally writing 151 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 2: it ass. We drove in the driveway and the paint 152 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 2: was still wet. 153 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: In spite of that, in spite of that, I gave 154 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: him a bit of a hard time about it. It 155 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: was so sweet, it was so beautiful, so nice that 156 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: he did it, and I did express my appreciation, but 157 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: I couldn't help just some good natured ribbing about his 158 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: spelling and about his writing. But I got a text 159 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: from him the following day, and I want to read 160 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: it to you because it just I'm kind of speechless. 161 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: So I'm just going to read it to you and 162 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: then I'll give you my reaction. He said. I was 163 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: attempting to write this on my hand print for your 164 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: Father's Day letter, but Indiana was taking more of my 165 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: attention than I'd anticipated. But I figured no harm in 166 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: sending it as a text either. Happy Father's Day to 167 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: Australia's number one father in law, Justin. I'm constantly in 168 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: or of your passion and your unwavering commitment to making 169 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: the world a better place. Your driver is truly unmatched. 170 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: The example you set for me to be a great 171 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: father is the greatest gift any father could give to 172 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: a suton in law. He said. I appreciate the time 173 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: and effort you invest in our relationship, the laughter, kind words, 174 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: and the advice you so freely share. Thank you for 175 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: being such an active and loving poppy in Indiana. We 176 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: always look forward to our visits with you. Our little 177 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: family has come so far because of the sacrifices you've 178 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: made for us. And then the clincher, he said, this 179 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:35,959 Speaker 1: is my son in law. He's twenty six years old, 180 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: long hair, goady, electrician. Where's the flurod gear? And I 181 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 1: mean he's a big guy. He could bench press me 182 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 1: all day long. The last paragraph he says, I love 183 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 1: you justin happy first poppy his day. I'm so proud 184 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: to call you my father in law. And Kylie, I mean, 185 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: I'm getting weepy reading it. But when I that text, 186 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: I just thought, I mean, I love your dad. I'm 187 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: so grateful for him. He's a good man. But in 188 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: the twenty six or twenty whatever years it is that 189 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: we've been married, now, I should get that right, my 190 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: twenty six and a half, twenty seven years we've been married. 191 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: I can't imagine ever sending him a text like that. 192 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: And here's this great kid that's married our eldest daughter, 193 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: and he's telling his father in law that he loves 194 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: him and that he's so proud to have him as 195 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: a father in law, and I just I feel like 196 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: it's a peak moment in my life. And I know 197 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: it's very very personal a share on the podcast, and 198 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: yet when I think about what I'll do better tomorrow 199 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 1: is all about It's about creating a family so that 200 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: you can have those moments. My reaction was one of 201 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: I'm just I put myself in those shoes and thought, 202 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: I can't imagine sending that message or giving that message 203 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: to my father in law. And I feel so rich 204 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: as a recipient of that. 205 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 2: I think that was the real joy of Father's Day 206 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 2: this year was just the I guess reaping I don't 207 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 2: want to use the word reward, but reaping the goodness 208 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 2: that has come from all of those years of sacrifice 209 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 2: and hard with our children, and. 210 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: It has been hard, like this has not been one 211 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: of those charmed relationships from day dot. I mean, in 212 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 1: the early days when I was a bit upset about 213 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: some things that were going on when they just started dating, 214 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: he was, I mean, Chanelle tells the story that he 215 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 1: wanted to beat me up and as we were having 216 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: a conversation, he said, well, you might have some book smarts, 217 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: but you don't really know what's going on. I mean, 218 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: it was an acrimonious, antagonistic relationship. It was not good. 219 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 2: As we've been doing some renovations in the house, we've 220 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 2: talked about wanting to create this miracle wall with photos 221 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 2: of moments and time. And as I was thinking about it, 222 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 2: I happened to be looking at Chanel and Jared's wedding 223 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 2: photos and Jared looked over my shoulder and he said, 224 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 2: that's the first. 225 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: Time we hugged at the wedding. 226 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 2: You and him, was the first time you'd hugged at 227 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 2: the wedding, And it was just that's an instant moment 228 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 2: of goodness there, and I want that on my miracle wall, 229 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 2: like that's a healing moment in our lives. It's such 230 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 2: a beautiful, beautiful reminder of all that's good, but also 231 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 2: a combination of understanding and knowing how we got there. 232 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:44,079 Speaker 1: The take home message is love. We made a decision 233 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: when we saw how acrimonious and how challenging and even 234 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: how capricious the relationship was becoming, we made a challenge 235 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: to reverse that by loving unconditionally, by literally saying, no 236 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: matter what we've got them, no matter what, we will 237 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: love them no matter what, They've got our support. No 238 00:11:57,880 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: matter what, we will find a way to show that 239 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: our love for them is bigger than any issue that 240 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: can come up. And it has been. I mean they've 241 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: been married now for five and a half years or 242 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: something like that, and it took a good couple of 243 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: years to make the progress. But the last five and 244 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 1: a half years have just been delightful. And here's too many, 245 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: many many more that is my older better tomorrow. Now, 246 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: I have to apologize I've taken a lot of time 247 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 1: in our podcast episode. You have approximately ninety seconds. 248 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 2: Oh you're so kind. Well, considering it was just father day, 249 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 2: I'm going to let you have the live line. You 250 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 2: can take all the time. 251 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: It's okay, okay, you know what. I'm not going to 252 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:40,959 Speaker 1: fight you on it because I want to make sure 253 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 1: that our podcast sticks to the time. It is the time, 254 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 1: the podcast for the time. Poor parent who just want's 255 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: answers now, Well. 256 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 2: Just know that when I've got a really awesome story, 257 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 2: I won't let you speak. 258 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to that next week because I've got 259 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: another week of travel and I don't know if I'm 260 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: going to have anything to share. The Happy Family's podcast 261 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 1: is produced by Justin Rhlan Media. Justin, We just love 262 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: your work. We're so grateful for what you do. Thank 263 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: you for being a wonderful, wonderful podcast producer. 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