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Speaker 1: It's the Happy Families podcast.

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Speaker 2: It's the podcast for the time poor parent who just

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Speaker 2: wants answers now.

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Speaker 1: And I think that we've become better parents because we've

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Speaker 1: stopped sweating the small stuff and recognized that so much

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Speaker 1: of what we used to sweat was small stuff.

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Speaker 2: And now here's the stars of our show, my mum

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Speaker 2: and dad.

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Speaker 1: Good Day. This is doctor Justin Colson. I'm the author

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Speaker 1: of a bunch of books about how to make families happier.

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Speaker 1: I just saw somebody walking past the door. It distracted me.

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Speaker 1: I thought, there's someone in our yard that shouldn't be there.

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Speaker 1: It was just the neighbor's kid, right, Yeah, he's just

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Speaker 1: decided to let himself into our house. He's obviously looking

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Speaker 1: for one of our kids to play with. Where were we?

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Speaker 1: So I'm Justin. I've written six books about making families happier,

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Speaker 1: and you're Kielie, mom to our six children. I was

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Speaker 1: going to mention, we've got the kind of like this

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Speaker 1: little tagline for a Happy Families memberships, because a happy

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Speaker 1: family doesn't just happen. We're all about being really intentional

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Speaker 1: in our families. And I've written these six books about

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Speaker 1: raising happy family. One of our mutual friends a few

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Speaker 1: years ago told me a great story. His name was

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Speaker 1: Tim tim Baker. He lives in Sydney and you grew

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Speaker 1: up with him, and he was with some friends they'd

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Speaker 1: come over to visit one afternoon. They walked over the

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Speaker 1: bookshelf and started looking at all of the books on

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Speaker 1: his in his bookcase, as you do, like I find

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Speaker 1: people's bookcases fascinating. You can tell so much about a

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Speaker 1: person by what's in their bookshelf. And the person that

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Speaker 1: was visiting his house turned around and said, you've got

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Speaker 1: a lot of books about parenting. And he said, uh huh,

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Speaker 1: and she said, I'm not quite sure why though, like

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Speaker 1: you guys are great parents. That was the story. By

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Speaker 1: parenting books that don't have to be mine, although I

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Speaker 1: recommend them, but by parenting books, and it will help

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Speaker 1: you to be a better parent. And then people can

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Speaker 1: come over to your house and say, look at those

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Speaker 1: parenting books. You're great parents. You don't need those books.

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Speaker 1: And you can say if I'm a good parentist because

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Speaker 1: of the stuff that.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if they'd say that to doctors with all

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Speaker 2: of their medical journals.

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Speaker 1: On this show, you're so healthy, you don't need all

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Speaker 1: these books about health.

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Speaker 2: How did you become a doctor?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Funny that we actually had somebody jump onto Facebook

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Speaker 1: and we're doing a webinar about how to make your

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Speaker 1: Facebook and said, if you need to go at a

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Speaker 1: webinar to work out how to make a happy family,

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Speaker 1: then you probably shouldn't have had kids. I was like, Uh, yeah, No,

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Speaker 1: it takes intention. It's about being really seriously focused on

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Speaker 1: what you're trying to do in your family. Because if

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Speaker 1: you're not intellectually curious, if you're just passively living life,

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Speaker 1: it's really hard to make things work out well. We

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Speaker 1: need to be intentional and moving forward and trying to

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Speaker 1: grow and develop. And that's what our Friday podcast is

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Speaker 1: all about. On a Friday, we sit down together and

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Speaker 1: we called this episode I'll do Better Tomorrow. The idea

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Speaker 1: being we've made enough mistakes this week. Let's work out

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Speaker 1: what we did wrong and try to be better tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Because the great thing about kids, they give you second chances.

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Speaker 2: And third and fourth and twenty fifth.

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Speaker 1: And one millionth chances. But here's the thing. I remember

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Speaker 1: hearing a conference talk once and the speaker said, if

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Speaker 1: you want to be good at the piano, you need

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Speaker 1: to make a lot of mistakes. You will make a

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Speaker 1: lot of mistakes, maybe even a million mistakes. But by

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Speaker 1: piano and you're practicing intentionally, and that deliberate practice is

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Speaker 1: to learn a language, you're going to make so many

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Speaker 1: you are deliberately intentionally learning the language.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and that's how you get better. So we

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Speaker 1: last Friday. How can be more reflective in our parenting

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Speaker 1: That was possibly the world's longest intro to any I'll

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Speaker 2: Well, I want to hear what your story is for today.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well this is I'm not quite sure if i

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Speaker 2: Well, you know that you can. You can say whatever

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Speaker 2: Just interestingly, I've gone down for a nap and I've

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Speaker 2: What I love about this situation is her acknowledgment. She

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she thought that we'd communicated well enough that she

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Speaker 1: But I never gave her a clean no.

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Speaker 2: And she didn't understand all of the things that were

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Speaker 2: and I was able to kind of just fill her

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Speaker 1: So what you're really saying is I didn't give her

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Speaker 1: clear instructions at the outset. She took at liberty that

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Speaker 1: she probably shouldn't have, but it wasn't sufficiently clear that

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Speaker 1: she shouldn't have. So my old be better tomorrow. Also

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Speaker 1: don't sweat the small stuff. And it worked out.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, because at the end of it, once she

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Speaker 1: Up next, we're going to find out Kylie's older better tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: What could she do to be more awesome or how

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Speaker 1: can we be more intentional based on Kylie's insights from parenting.

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Speaker 1: This week, it's their Happy Family's podcast.

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Speaker 2: For a happier family, try a Happy Families membership, because

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Speaker 2: a happy family doesn't just happen.

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Speaker 1: Details at happy families dot com dot au.

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Speaker 2: It's the Happy Family's podcast, the podcast for the time

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Speaker 2: time poor parent who just wants answers now, and today

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Speaker 2: we are sharing our reflections.

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Speaker 1: What are you laughing I'm just laughing because I really,

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Speaker 1: I really can't believe that she took the car, and

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Speaker 1: I'm just chuckling because we've I think I think we're

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Speaker 1: getting better at this, or maybe stuff just doesn't FaZe

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Speaker 2: You're inside You're really really scared to find out what

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Speaker 2: blog for Kylie's Corner and our Happy Families membership a

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Speaker 2: interesting as I look back on my own childhood and

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Speaker 2: I remember experiences. It wasn't until I was an adult

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Speaker 2: different to the reality that existed we moved to Australia

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Speaker 1: Especially. I mean this kind of goes back to our

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Speaker 2: Next week, we're actually talking to my dad and your

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Speaker 1: And if you listen to this podcast particularly and I'll

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Speaker 1: We hope that you've received that today as you've listened

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Speaker 1: to our stories, laughed along with our foux pas, our mistakes,

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Speaker 1: and hopefully over the weekend your family will be happier

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Speaker 1: and do better tomorrow. The Happy Families podcast is produced

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Speaker 1: by Justin Ruhlan from Bridge Media. Craig Bruce is our

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Speaker 1: executive producer. We just love that you listen to the podcast.

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Speaker 1: We hope that you're doing well, that your family is flourishing,

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Speaker 1: and if you're looking for ongoing support, because a happy

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Speaker 1: family doesn't just happen. Please check out our Happy Families memberships.

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Speaker 1: We have seen so much growth, so many families joining

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Speaker 1: the membership, joining the Happy Families community, and finding new

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Speaker 1: ways to support their family to reach ever increasing heights

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Speaker 1: of happiness. Do you like that, Colton?

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Speaker 2: Are you going to wrap it up?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Come on. If you like more information, visit happy

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Speaker 1: families dot com. DODA eight