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Speaker 1: Quest. Yeah, welcome friends to the Christian O'Connell show podcast

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Speaker 1: in the studio right now. Ronan Keating. If you need

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Speaker 1: any reminding about the pedigree and the class of Ronan Keating.

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Speaker 1: In the nineties, it was in one of the biggest

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Speaker 1: boy bands in the world, boy Zone, huge all over

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Speaker 1: the world. They sold back when there were records twenty

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Speaker 1: six million songs around the world, and then goes on

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Speaker 1: to having an even a bigger solo career, selling some

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Speaker 1: of like twenty seven million records around the world. You

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Speaker 1: might remember some of them when you say Nothing at All,

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Speaker 1: which is in the movie notting Hill number one in

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Speaker 1: seven different countries. Ronan, lovely to see you. You and

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Speaker 1: I used to work in the same building. So Ronan

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Speaker 1: and I were rivals on breakfast radio. We were listen

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Speaker 1: to this us we were we were.

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Speaker 2: No, not really, I was learning from you. I mean, look,

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Speaker 2: I came in as the new boy, and I remember

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Speaker 2: you had the big show at the Breakfast Show.

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Speaker 1: Give me you're on the big salary. I prefer always

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Speaker 1: preferred those way round. You. You had its stature. There's

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Speaker 1: roaning money and then pay me.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you were the man and honest to God

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Speaker 2: like you you and who else was it?

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Speaker 1: Richie? I used to do show Richie.

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Speaker 2: I love it. Richie stayed around a long time afterwards.

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Speaker 2: He's still there, he still he's still there. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think Chris Evans and yourself were the two DJs

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Speaker 2: and you know, take lesson from because I mean, you

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Speaker 2: know what you're doing. I was the new boy on

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Speaker 2: the block. I loved it seven years on radio.

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Speaker 1: So you finished this year?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, finished it, finished it and I walked out. I

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Speaker 2: left and she ended June, I think, or end of July.

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Speaker 1: And did you enjoy it?

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Speaker 2: I did? I loved it.

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Speaker 1: I was great fun. Radio was great fun.

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Speaker 2: It was amazing. I learned so much about myself. What

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Speaker 2: did you learn about yourself? Just you know, because I

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Speaker 2: you know, I was answering, whereas I was taking time

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Speaker 2: that I would have given. It's changed me. It's changed

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Speaker 2: the way that I, you know, that I get interviewed.

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Speaker 2: It's changed the way that I that I get on

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Speaker 2: it's bizarre but brilliant.

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Speaker 1: And also, do you have an even greater appreciation because look,

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Speaker 1: greater appreciation joy hearing stories as well? Yeah, because radio

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Speaker 2: You it absolutely is. It is. It's telling stories. It's

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Speaker 1: Well, you've got DVD exactly, TV series what you call

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Speaker 2: Oh, now you're talking.

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Speaker 2: No? No, no, I look seven brilliant years. I love

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Speaker 2: breakfast and it's just been announced. It's great. I have

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Speaker 2: It was amazing. And somebody said to me, there's a

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Speaker 1: So let me tell you this. Right yesterday I googled

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Speaker 2: It's cold, it's damp. It's the damp. It's got me,

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Speaker 2: We're here for a while. We're going to probably be

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Speaker 1: Awesome. Yeah, Lord, Now tell me this. We had a

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Speaker 2: No, I don't even know what that is, right, honest

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Speaker 1: Well called a chat gpt, right, is this right? You

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Speaker 1: They're raving about it. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean we built a house in the over the

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Speaker 1: When you say weed, do you mean obviously got people

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Speaker 1: There's a bad reputation about some Irish builders. Well, the

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Speaker 2: There was English and Irish are involved, and they ripped

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Speaker 1: And the hell rips off ron.

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Speaker 2: We call it pop star attacks. Honestly, I was talking

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Speaker 1: You know, what is time for a middle age old

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Speaker 2: Christen's mike.

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Speaker 1: Face that I said.

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Speaker 2: I know what they are.

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Speaker 1: They're a good time.

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Speaker 2: They're a good time. All right, you do a few

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, performing today, and I've been at Melbourne all

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Speaker 2: Yeah, big mistake, huge, huge, huge. Did you lose money?

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Speaker 2: I wasn't going to get any better.

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Speaker 1: It was a nightmare, all right. Lovely to see you

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Speaker 2: You really well. I don't know about that. Thank you,

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Speaker 2: you know how to smile, And I no, no, I didn't.

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Speaker 1: Thanks christ The Christian O'Connell Show podcast