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Speaker 2: It's the podcast for the time poor parent who just

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Speaker 1: Now it's really simple. We feel awesome when there's strong connection.

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Speaker 1: And now here's the stars of our show, my mom

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Speaker 1: and dad. Hello. This is doctor Justin Coulson, the founder

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Speaker 1: of Happy Families dot com dot IU and the author

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Speaker 1: of six books about helping families to be happy. I'm

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Speaker 1: here with Kylie, missus Happy Families, who was feeling a

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Speaker 1: little bit proud of herself today because the Jim journey continues.

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Speaker 1: What's your latest accomplishment, honey.

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Speaker 3: Well, a couple of days ago, I had to do

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Speaker 3: a strengths test to see how well I could squat.

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Speaker 1: Are you getting stronger?

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know because it was the first time.

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Speaker 1: Oh a great starf I have did their squats and

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Speaker 1: but I said squat's and then said, but because Scott's

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Speaker 1: a good for you anyway. Sorry, you have never what

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Speaker 3: Never squatted with a thirty five kilo bar before, so

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Speaker 1: So you've done squats, proper squats with weights in the

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Speaker 1: gym and you're progressing.

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Speaker 2: Yes, don't talk to me about chin ups yet, though.

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Speaker 1: Did you try it, try it didn't go well.

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Speaker 3: Let's just say I'm at the very very beginning of

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Speaker 3: that journey, and my feet I'm not yet leaving the ground.

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Speaker 1: Right. So, what we're talking about today is the drugs

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Speaker 1: that are now kids' brains. Not drugs, but the neurotransmit

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Speaker 1: is the hormones that are buzzing around our children's brains,

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Speaker 1: take any supplements, without having to do any pharmacological intervention.

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Speaker 1: Research tells us there's a bunch of things that we

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Speaker 1: the right kinds of brain chemicals so that they can

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Speaker 1: be happier and not have depression and anxiety. Hey, actually,

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Speaker 1: you know what this actually ties in with something that

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Speaker 1: age of thirteen. Executives at Instagram are planning to build

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Speaker 1: to an internal company post obtained by BuzzFeed News. I

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Speaker 3: Actually, I think I was getting receiving a significant number

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Speaker 3: of invites for our children to participate on kids Messenger. Yeah, Facebook,

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Speaker 3: Kids Messenger, Right, And while I think it's wonderful that

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Speaker 1: But it's the dope mean that gets your buzzing as

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Speaker 1: back after the break and talk about oxytocin, serotonin and

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Speaker 3: It's the Happy Families podcast, the podcast for the time

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Speaker 3: poor parent who just wants answers now, and today we

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Speaker 3: are talking about neurological highs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the chemicals that our brain produces naturally when we're

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Speaker 1: doing the right stuff, so that we can be happy

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Speaker 3: So you gave us an acronym before dose, D for dopamine,

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Speaker 3: O for oxytocin, S for serotonin, and E for endorphins.

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Speaker 3: So we talked about dopamine. Tell me a bit about oxytocin.

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Speaker 3: What is it responsible for love?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the social bonding neurochemical and it's really simple.

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Speaker 1: Yep compliments, feeling close. It doesn't have to always be interpersonal, though,

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Speaker 2: What about serotonin.

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Speaker 2: So how do we help our children get a good

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Speaker 3: I had a conversation with a friend earlier today actually

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