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Speaker 1: Hello, Katie Wolvan three sixty online at Mix one O

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Speaker 1: four nine dot com. You are listening to three sixty

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Speaker 1: and throughout the morning, we've been catching up with various

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Speaker 1: industry leaders to get their take on the budget, which

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Speaker 1: was indeed handed down yesterday. I know that Leafanocchiaro, the

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Speaker 1: opposition leader, is currently delivering her opposition reply to the budget,

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Speaker 1: but we'll have Leah on the show tomorrow morning. Joining

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Speaker 1: us on the line right now. Northern Territory Council of

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Speaker 1: Social Services CEO, also known as MT Costs, Deb Di Natali,

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Speaker 1: Good morning to you, Deb.

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Speaker 2: Good morning Katie, and good morning to your listeners.

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Speaker 1: Deb. We've been asking a series of questions to our

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Speaker 1: industry leaders and I'll ask you the first one. What

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Speaker 1: was your reaction to yesterday's budget?

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Speaker 2: Well, firstly, this is not a budget for Territorians who

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Speaker 2: are doing it tough. What this budget does is it

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Speaker 2: focuses on the crisis and pointy end response and what

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Speaker 2: we want in terms of the greatest outcome for community

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Speaker 2: is early support and prevention across all programs in the

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Speaker 2: nt SO.

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Speaker 1: Deb, taking that into account, what areas did you think

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Speaker 1: the budget fell short for? In your industry, well, what

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Speaker 1: we thought.

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Speaker 2: There are a number of plans that we've been working on,

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Speaker 2: and one of the obvious ones is the Aboriginal Justice

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Speaker 2: Agreement that there has got twenty three community led responses

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Speaker 2: that enable leaders, local Aboriginal leaders to put in place

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Speaker 2: local strategies that will address offending behavior. That represents years

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Speaker 2: of work and it would have been good to be

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Speaker 2: able to see us making some progress in that space.

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Speaker 2: We also had a commitment around that that we would

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Speaker 2: get funded. We were advised that it would be considered

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Speaker 2: as part of the budget process. So to see not

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Speaker 2: one single dollar of new money allocated to that, that

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Speaker 2: was definitely a shortfall in the budget.

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Speaker 1: So there's no money allocated to that at all in

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Speaker 1: this budget, no new money.

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Speaker 2: There's no new money allocated to that at all. There's

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Speaker 2: no when you have a look at business as usual,

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Speaker 2: which is across the sector, and we look at a

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Speaker 2: number of areas like domestic family and sexual violence, We

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Speaker 2: look at our legal centers, we look at our aging programs,

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Speaker 2: we look at our young people. When we look at

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Speaker 2: that and we see while we're only funded in terms

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Speaker 2: of business as usual, this to me is a huge

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Speaker 2: oversight for our industry that does all the important work

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Speaker 2: to ensure that no one's left behind.

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Speaker 1: Deb, what will be the impact of that from your perspective.

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Speaker 2: Well, the impact of that is that we're not going

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Speaker 2: to get the solutions we need. Domestic family and sexual

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Speaker 2: violence is one of the examples that we know the

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Speaker 2: crisis is deepening there. We already have thirty two crisis

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Speaker 2: accommodation support services across the NT that are stretched in

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Speaker 2: terms of its funding. We need to see increases in

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Speaker 2: this in order to get better outcomes.

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Speaker 1: De boughts your message for the government this morning, taking

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Speaker 1: into account what you've just said to us about those

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Speaker 1: areas where it seems as though there's been quite the

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Speaker 1: short form from your perspective.

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Speaker 2: My message to the MTG is pretty clear. You've done

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Speaker 2: the hard work. You've got great policy solutions there. You've

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Speaker 2: got an Aboriginal Justice Agreement, you've got domestic violence sexual

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Speaker 2: violence action plans. All of those plans are very good,

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Speaker 2: but in order for them to come to fruition, you

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Speaker 2: need to fund the implementation of those plans.

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Speaker 1: Deb, were there any positives for your industry from your perspective.

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Speaker 2: Look, the positives are that the hard work has been

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Speaker 2: done and that there is a good policy framework to

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Speaker 2: guide a number of those programs. So we would say

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Speaker 2: that that is definitely a positive and we also welcome

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Speaker 2: the reduction in the efficiency dividend across the community and

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Speaker 2: social services sector, which I think is about zero point

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Speaker 2: five percent lesson it would have been. That is good,

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Speaker 2: but that's not enough to get us to where we

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Speaker 2: need to be.

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Speaker 1: So, deb Dina Tali from the Anti Council of Social Services,

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Speaker 1: would you say that the budget was a positive or

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Speaker 1: a not so positive one from your perspective, I would.

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Speaker 2: Say that the budget is not a positive budget in

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Speaker 2: terms of the whole of the territory because we haven't

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Speaker 2: got the money allocated to the places we need them

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Speaker 2: to be. That is early support, supporting families, ensuring that

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Speaker 2: we get in in terms of the prevention end. If

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Speaker 2: we're not in the prevention end and the prevention space,

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Speaker 2: we're going to be having the same conversation in twenty

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Speaker 2: years time.

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Speaker 1: Well, deb Di Natalie, we always appreciate your time. Thank

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Speaker 1: you very much for having a chat with us this morning.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate the opportunity. Thanks Katie, thank you.

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Speaker 1: That is the NT Council of social services. There, the

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Speaker 1: CEO deb Di Natali