Speaker 1: This podcast is for general information only and should not
Speaker 1: be taken as psychological advice. Listeners should consult with their
Speaker 1: healthcare professionals for specific medical advice.
Speaker 2: Well. Hello, I'm Amanda Keller and I'm Anita McGregor, and
Speaker 2: welcome to Double a Chattery.
Speaker 1: Amanda, I need fashion advice.
Speaker 2: Please, You've come to the right liceinate. I know I'm
Speaker 2: wearing a moon move. Let me help you.
Speaker 1: So I've seen all the cool kids now are doing
Speaker 1: like their shirts are untucked at the front. And I
Speaker 1: came in this morning to go and record this, and
Speaker 1: I think I look like an imbecile.
Speaker 2: Stand up like and I'll tell you whether you look
Speaker 2: like an embole. So, Anita, you've got a linen shirt
Speaker 2: and a nice skirt.
Speaker 1: Yes, a linen skirt too, And I'm falling off my chair.
Speaker 2: You are ok, your legs hitting the ground. They are swinging,
Speaker 2: free swinging. I think see, because you'll slim all around,
Speaker 2: you don't need to do any of this. But though
Speaker 2: you think you're talking about the French tuck, am I
Speaker 2: the shortening of that as fuck, which is rude. The
Speaker 2: French tuck and the reason it suits a lot of people,
Speaker 2: and why I like the French tuck is because you
Speaker 2: tuck in a tiny bit of your shirt and it
Speaker 2: still covers the bulk of your stomach and your bum.
Speaker 2: So that's what that is. Where you tuck a little
Speaker 2: bit or you scrunch a bit at the side and
Speaker 2: put that in and so it sort of sits nicely.
Speaker 2: I don't feel comfortable doing the tuck in. I often
Speaker 2: feel like I think I've got a high waist. My
Speaker 2: mother always said to me that I was long in
Speaker 2: the fork, and I have no idea what I think.
Speaker 2: What that means is there's a lot of distance from
Speaker 2: my navel to my fork. So if I wear pants,
Speaker 2: you know, I can either have a camel toe or
Speaker 2: stomach fat hanging over the top. I have to make
Speaker 2: a choice. They're my only choices in life. I don't
Speaker 2: know which to go for. I once went into a
Speaker 2: jean shop and it was might've been just jeans or something,
Speaker 2: and they said we can fit anybody type, and after
Speaker 2: an hour he'd just given up. I just I just
Speaker 2: go away, I just go away. I've never felt wearing pants.
Speaker 2: I don't know where to put myself with it, and
Speaker 2: wearing skirts same, I don't know where to put myself
Speaker 2: with it a slight tux. That's why I'm happier in winter.
Speaker 2: I can wear a jacket and layer things up. In summer,
Speaker 2: I don't feel comfortable always tucking things in because there's
Speaker 2: a bit of a stomach or a bum self conscious
Speaker 2: nature going on.
Speaker 1: Oh for me, it's always like I just have to
Speaker 1: hem stuff. That's that's always been like, no matter what
Speaker 1: size I've been, it's always that the pouts are like
Speaker 1: four feet too long.
Speaker 2: And do you do your own hemming? Oh yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: a sewing machine or by hand, both depending on what
Speaker 2: the material is. Do you pin it yourself? I do?
Speaker 2: How do you know you've pinned against other pants?
Speaker 1: I do well? Either that or sometimes I'll even get
Speaker 1: EMMT to go and pin it for me. Really, yeah,
Speaker 1: I just need one.
Speaker 2: Knights must fly by at your house. Women, I'm going
Speaker 2: to put on some pants and you pin them.
Speaker 1: You know the agendas of our evenings. Yeah, honey, guess
Speaker 1: what we're doing next. I'm getting out some pin But
Speaker 1: it's not what you see. You don't even know what
Speaker 1: that means. Well, you look lovely, you're sorted now. I
Speaker 1: am all sort of things French. Yes, I was going
Speaker 1: to say, I'm all fucked.
Speaker 2: French tucked, anita, French tucked. No abbreviations here, no abbrevas.
Speaker 2: You don't have to be mad to work here. But
Speaker 2: it helps, But it does help. All right, let's get started.
Speaker 2: You know how, a little while ago I told you
Speaker 2: about the myth that kayale is good for you. It
Speaker 2: was just a marketing campaign. Kale had only ever been
Speaker 2: used for garnish at Pizza Hut, really as a garnish
Speaker 2: around the salad.
Speaker 1: I was delighted to hear that amount it.
Speaker 2: Kale isn't particularly good for you, and it doesn't break
Speaker 2: down easily. Well, we know that when you try.
Speaker 1: And eat it.
Speaker 2: But it was a myth that it is a super food.
Speaker 2: I have another myth, and it's not about a food. Okay,
Speaker 2: the only child myth. You know how, we've always been
Speaker 2: told that only children are inherently or if you only
Speaker 2: had an only child, they'd be inherently selfish, difficult, lonely.
Speaker 1: They don't share. Well, no, all that stuff. Remember that
Speaker 1: I saw this.
Speaker 2: I know you think I just listened to podcasts about
Speaker 2: French tucking, but I saw this on a psychologist podcast.
Speaker 3: So the idea that like only children are like selfish
Speaker 3: and jealous and our argant and spoiled whatever it is,
Speaker 3: actually came from a pr campaign to increase birth rates
Speaker 3: after World War Two. Back then everyone wanted like a
Speaker 3: very polite, nice child, and so the government thought, if
Speaker 3: we tell people if they only have one child, this
Speaker 3: child is going to be a spoilt brat, they'll have
Speaker 3: more than one, they'll have siblings for their children. And
Speaker 3: turns out it worked, but also the misconception has stuck.
Speaker 2: So the whole idea of that was brought about so
Speaker 2: people would have more than one child.
Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, wow, and so and it's just not true.
Speaker 1: They've done studies with you know, single kid households.
Speaker 2: They're not more selfish, they're not more maladjusted, they're not
Speaker 2: any of that stuff.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's what a reassuring thing to hear. But it's
Speaker 1: you know, if you're the only child in a household.
Speaker 1: But wow, what a what a crazy I wonder what
Speaker 1: crazy scientists thought that up.
Speaker 2: Like you hear a story once and it sticks with
Speaker 2: you in the same way, you can debunk the link
Speaker 2: between vaccinations and autism a million times, but people will
Speaker 2: still choose to believe that. So, yeah, that's how that goes.
Speaker 1: Wow, that is I don't even know where to sit
Speaker 1: with her, because that really has really been deep in
Speaker 1: my Sachi, and it was actually I'd like to hear
Speaker 1: your thoughts on it, but from me, it was definitely
Speaker 1: part of our decision to have a second child.
Speaker 2: How will you, Yeah, Well, we took us so long
Speaker 2: to have Liam years of IVF that Actually we had
Speaker 2: a much beloved nanny who had lost a child when
Speaker 2: she was a teenager. When the child was a teenager
Speaker 2: and she said if she didn't have other children, she'd
Speaker 2: never got out of bed. And she was working with
Speaker 2: us at the time when we were wondering whether to
Speaker 2: have another baby or not. And I think she passed
Speaker 2: away not so long ago actually, but she was a
Speaker 2: big part of our lives and still is. We love
Speaker 2: her very much. I sometimes think because of her, we
Speaker 2: went on to have Jack and I thought, I don't
Speaker 2: want to get to fifty and wonder if I should
Speaker 2: have tried again. That seems like a million years ago,
Speaker 2: saying into the age of fifty, But if ever, I
Speaker 2: have to talk to people and they asking me about
Speaker 2: whether they have more than one child. Every decision is
Speaker 2: your own. But I know about my brother and I
Speaker 2: is that you feel like we're the only people in
Speaker 2: the world who know the wonderful craziness, the madness, the
Speaker 2: strangeness of where you come from. You're like shooting off
Speaker 2: into space, but on some level you're sharing a spacecraft
Speaker 2: with somebody.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're the only person that probably knows all the
Speaker 1: secrets that you haund when you were you know, in
Speaker 1: the craziness of your parents and all those things. So, yeah, siblings,
Speaker 1: I think you're an important part of it. That was,
Speaker 1: as I said, I think it was a huge part
Speaker 1: of the decision for us to make sure that Connor
Speaker 1: had a sibling so.
Speaker 2: He wasn't selfish. Well think they also say that that
Speaker 2: China's one child policy was going to breed a whole
Speaker 2: lot of small emperors. Yeah, of small, bossy, self important children.
Speaker 2: I wonder how that's played out.
Speaker 1: Well, they dismissed that policy a few years ago because
Speaker 1: they are really struggling to go and have you know
Speaker 1: that their population growth is limiting and that there aren't
Speaker 1: you know, the people aren't getting married, they're not having
Speaker 1: children early, they're doing all kinds of things, and whether
Speaker 1: it's because of that one child policy or not. It's
Speaker 1: hard to tell.
Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting how parenting ideas come and go. I
Speaker 2: saw this post recently. It was in a parenting magazine.
Speaker 2: I think the title of this was Mum's adorable nineteen
Speaker 2: ninety three baby picture is a modern pediatrician's worst nightmare.
Speaker 2: So the first picture of her is her as a
Speaker 2: baby in nineteen ninety three and her crib. She's got toys,
Speaker 2: she's got crib bumpers, she's got a blanket and pillows,
Speaker 2: versus her baby in a crib with no adornment, no
Speaker 2: crib bumpers, no cutesy cutesy in there, nothing that the
Speaker 2: baby can hold on to and presumably smother itself with.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's well, and I'm we So my youngest was
Speaker 1: born in nineteen ninety two and my oldest in nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety one, and so we just are absolutely in the
Speaker 1: drop zone. That picture would have definitely of the nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety three crib would have been definitely the same, and
Speaker 1: the crib bumpers were just to go and prevent the
Speaker 1: children from baking their hands and putting their arms through
Speaker 1: the slots, putting their arms through and in fact, there
Speaker 1: probably were still you know, lead based paint cribs around
Speaker 1: at that time too. We know that was a big thing,
Speaker 1: is to make sure that the paint on the cribs
Speaker 1: and on the toys weren't lead based paint.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that was that was the modern parenting. It's
Speaker 2: trying to have letting your kids mouth. But you now
Speaker 2: have a young grandson. I guess he's sleeping more like
Speaker 2: the baby on the right in this picture.
Speaker 1: The absolutely Logan sleeps in a little sleeping bag without blankets,
Speaker 1: your blankets. There's no crib bumpers. The crib itself. Like
Speaker 1: the crib we had, the front came down and they
Speaker 1: don't do that anymore currently. I'm sure it's some safety issue,
Speaker 1: but no. The bed of the bottom of the crib
Speaker 1: goes up and down if you need it to. It's
Speaker 1: the baby gets taller. But no, there was like, it's
Speaker 1: crazy how different raising our children is from how logan
Speaker 1: especially you know certainly how he.
Speaker 2: Sleeps, Which brings up the question of the latest research
Speaker 2: for anything you think is the definitive research and will
Speaker 2: always be so. And that's why I think the often
Speaker 2: parents clash with their parents because rather than seeing this
Speaker 2: woman here is just saying, isn't it interesting that they
Speaker 2: dealt with the information they had at hand, and this
Speaker 2: is the information I have at hand, rather than my
Speaker 2: parents know nothing and they're so outdated they don't know anything.
Speaker 2: It's being generous about well, they didn't know all of
Speaker 2: this but did their best anyway. But also it's important
Speaker 2: maybe for the older generation to say, well, there is
Speaker 2: new research now and maybe I'll stay in the background.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying, oh, things haven't changed that much, girly.
Speaker 2: It's interesting, interesting, isn't it. But there's lots of other
Speaker 2: parenting stuff at the moment that what's this thing about?
Speaker 2: You let the baby dictate when it wants to go
Speaker 2: into solids it can, and let it hold a friggin
Speaker 2: chicken leg at the table.
Speaker 1: Baby lad weaning is and I really struggled, Well, it's
Speaker 1: the weaning, but then it's also baby lead feeding. It
Speaker 1: moves on to and a lot of this is that
Speaker 1: you just like the child basically will tell you when
Speaker 1: they're hungry and what they want to eat and how
Speaker 1: much solids they want. You know, everything when I was
Speaker 1: a young parent was about choking hazards, and now that
Speaker 1: doesn't seem to be really anymore. Really, Yeah, let them.
Speaker 2: Have a big turkey leg.
Speaker 4: Yeah, turkey leg, and yeah like Fred Flintstone, Yeah yeah,
Speaker 4: and wow as we were cutting up grapes and tiny
Speaker 4: bits of cheese, nothing big to go in your mouth
Speaker 4: and spoon feeding it all.
Speaker 1: Yep, nothing now like it's it's a very different world.
Speaker 2: They're also saying in this article about how looking at
Speaker 2: the things that modern parenting allows, all that insists, and
Speaker 2: then you wonder what those things will be and used
Speaker 2: to come.
Speaker 4: Like.
Speaker 2: For example, and I was a big proponent of this,
Speaker 2: is letting the baby cry itself to sleep.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I did that because I came back to breakfast radio
Speaker 2: and I trained my children's sleep like that in the army.
Speaker 2: And it was brilliant. It really was brilliant. I've got
Speaker 2: friends whose babies slept with them till they were four
Speaker 2: or five because they couldn't self comfort. And I know
Speaker 2: those moments of doing it are heartbreaking and hard. But
Speaker 2: my children show no psychological distress for having that little
Speaker 2: tick that they both tell Oh they both still cry
Speaker 2: every night, but other than that, and every time they
Speaker 2: call me, I say, you know the rules ten minutes
Speaker 2: of crying go. But it made I think if it
Speaker 2: makes a household better, that's okay. And we had a
Speaker 2: friend who once came over and he's in the medical profession,
Speaker 2: and they came over from another country and they said
Speaker 2: that they slightly doped up the baby with venergun or something.
Speaker 2: You just have a bit of alcohol in it. Because
Speaker 2: he said, everyone's calm, or when the baby's calm. And
Speaker 2: he was a medical professional and he said, I'm not
Speaker 2: doing the baby any harm, but this has comed mum, baby, me,
Speaker 2: everybody down. Wow. Because when you look at those old remedies,
Speaker 2: a lot of them were alcohol based. And that's what
Speaker 2: the grandparents of today going, Oh, we used to put
Speaker 2: scotch on the baby's gums.
Speaker 1: Or give it a My sister was a tiny baby
Speaker 1: and apparently the doctor told my mom to give her
Speaker 1: a little bit of wine before meals, yes, to stimulate
Speaker 1: her appetite. Really yeah, as a kid, as a baby,
Speaker 1: like like you know, less than a year probably, really.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because a lot of those early remedies were alcohol
Speaker 2: like that. Fernergen. I don't know fernergan these days has
Speaker 2: alcohol in it, but there was things. But you know,
Speaker 2: as I said, rubbing scotch on the baby's gums. And
Speaker 2: actually we asked you guys to get in touch with
Speaker 2: us about some of the stuff that you remember through
Speaker 2: the years. My mother, This is from Meryl. My mother
Speaker 2: put brandy in my bottle with the milk if we
Speaker 2: were being left for the babysitter.
Speaker 1: Good for the babysitter. I mean, I want you to
Speaker 1: do it for you though, really that's right. Why make
Speaker 1: it harder yourself?
Speaker 2: Wow?
Speaker 1: And then this one was about like and having honey
Speaker 1: on my dummy. This is from Lyndall Seymour, and she
Speaker 1: was saying that was a big no when my babies
Speaker 1: came along, and still is. But it's you know, even
Speaker 1: the dummy now is kind of controversial whether you should
Speaker 1: go and raise a child to self soothe with the dummy,
Speaker 1: but dipping.
Speaker 2: It in honey, all that sugar and all that stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was kind of whatever got you through When everyone says,
Speaker 2: well I've survived, but if you've got better ways of
Speaker 2: doing it that don't make you a sugar added maybe
Speaker 2: that's okay.
Speaker 1: I think I would just would have wanted a lot
Speaker 1: of for nergen. But yes, myself, Yeah, the one that
Speaker 1: I was that really kind of hit me was the
Speaker 1: one by Jenny Keynes, but she was saying, my dad
Speaker 1: was big on table discipline, and it was it was,
Speaker 1: you know, manners appreciation. Eating was in front of you.
Speaker 1: All that we definitely when I was being raised, it
Speaker 1: was lots of table discipline and it was eating what's
Speaker 1: put in front of you. And I remember that my
Speaker 1: mom used to make borsh, which is a beat soup,
Speaker 1: and it would you hate beat truth. I hate beat
Speaker 1: root because of this, and I hated borsh. It just
Speaker 1: it would kind of it was one of those things
Speaker 1: you'd put a spoonful in, it would go down, it
Speaker 1: would come up, it would go down, it would come up.
Speaker 2: And did you have to sit there?
Speaker 1: I had to sit there and get through a ball
Speaker 1: of borsh and before I could leave the table, and
Speaker 1: I just it was the hardest. It was awful.
Speaker 2: It was this power struggle what modern nutritionist, some imagining
Speaker 2: would say, don't force your children to to finish everything
Speaker 2: on their plate, because I, as you know, eat a
Speaker 2: lot and ate really quickly. And I think it was
Speaker 2: probably because I was brought up to eat everything on
Speaker 2: the plate. And that's so those eating habits have completely changed,
Speaker 2: haven't they.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know what the answer is. I was
Speaker 1: talking to my niece about a year or so ago
Speaker 1: because her son, who's a teenager, will just will eat
Speaker 1: very very little and very particular foods, and she was
Speaker 1: saying that the nutritias said, just let them eat what
Speaker 1: he needs to eat. And I appreciate that sentiment. And
Speaker 1: this is a growing kid, and you you know, as
Speaker 1: a parent, it probably just tears your heart out to
Speaker 1: go and say, you know, but this kid needs protein
Speaker 1: and carbs and you know whatever else that the you know, vitamins, vegetables,
Speaker 1: you know, things that'll make them grow and be strong
Speaker 1: and healthy. And where does that come in? Because the
Speaker 1: more you force, probably the worst it gets.
Speaker 2: One of the things that was in this article about
Speaker 2: things that we might look back on and think, what
Speaker 2: were we thinking? They said here, I wouldn't be surprised
Speaker 2: if pediatricians decide we can't be trusted to make our
Speaker 2: own baby food at home anymore. That had been an
Speaker 2: interesting one, because you can't trust that someone's feeding their
Speaker 2: child properly by cooking for them, or that they're using
Speaker 2: in date ingredients and what they're what they're using. Maybe
Speaker 2: we'll go back to all the food should be pre
Speaker 2: manufactured of an organic kind. Who knows.
Speaker 1: I mean, as I'm thinking about it, I sound like
Speaker 1: a troud waife because I actually so. Tell me I
Speaker 1: sold my own the dapers for my children. No, I did.
Speaker 1: Actually they were all out of flannel. They all have
Speaker 1: the little the little velcrow on them. They were very sweet.
Speaker 1: But I also made all the baby food for for
Speaker 1: the for the kids. I did.
Speaker 2: I was that parent, which is that because you felt
Speaker 2: you had to, because I read somewhere that they did
Speaker 2: an environmental side by side and the amount of water
Speaker 2: and heating and all of that that it takes to
Speaker 2: washerappy is the same as using a disposable that it doesn't.
Speaker 2: You don't necessarily come out on top. Do it because
Speaker 2: you want to, but don't do it for environmental purposes.
Speaker 4: It was.
Speaker 1: It was all for the environment. And you know, and
Speaker 1: I mean I was raised like really really healthy, like
Speaker 1: we you know, my parents had a you know why,
Speaker 1: as I said, I used to be raised on eating moose.
Speaker 1: But we'd you know, have not chocolate game, not chocolate moose,
Speaker 1: but we would have all kinds of you know, vegetables preserved.
Speaker 1: We had our own huge garden, and every year we
Speaker 1: would preserve some of it. We'd had of it in
Speaker 1: cold storage. It was all that kind of stuff. So
Speaker 1: I was really really healthy. And I remember looking at
Speaker 1: the little packages. They had little jars of baby food,
Speaker 1: and and I just had a reaction to that. That
Speaker 1: looks like processed food to me. So I made I
Speaker 1: made baby food.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: There wasn't a lot available then. So you do sound
Speaker 1: up one of those treadwives.
Speaker 2: I do, don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, did you dress.
Speaker 2: Like you're a little house in the prairie? I did?
Speaker 1: No, I didn't, but it was I was completely cool. Memories,
Speaker 1: don't they ready to do? Yeah? You can see some
Speaker 1: pictures of me when I was twenty five and oh
Speaker 1: my lord. Yeah, but no, it was like I really
Speaker 1: had kind of bought into a lot of the parenting
Speaker 1: you know, myths that were probably well maybe not myths,
Speaker 1: but certainly the trends.
Speaker 2: And there were freshes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there was really I remember thinking there wasn't
Speaker 1: many books. There was what to expect when You're expecting,
Speaker 1: and then there was doctor Spark.
Speaker 2: Who was the we didn't really have that through so
Speaker 2: much here.
Speaker 1: What did you did you have anything.
Speaker 2: I know of doctor Spock only from watching American television.
Speaker 2: I had a book called Baby Love by a woman
Speaker 2: called Robin Gardner, and she was an early childhood nurse
Speaker 2: I think at one of our local hospitals. But her
Speaker 2: book I recommend it to any new mother. It covered everything,
Speaker 2: was almost like an encyclopedia. But her main thing was
Speaker 2: if you love your child and praise the achievements you're doing. Okay,
Speaker 2: but yes, it was great. So isn't it funny? In
Speaker 2: our society. On one hand, we have the pressure to
Speaker 2: do all your things yourself, organic food and this and that.
Speaker 2: On the other hand, we have a whole lot of
Speaker 2: parents who are struggling to get by, and if the
Speaker 2: kid has a cannic coat for dinner, that's what's happening
Speaker 2: that night. A handful of hundreds and thousands. So somewhere
Speaker 2: in the middle is most of us. I think.
Speaker 1: I think so too. I think that that. And I
Speaker 1: don't think anybody has a child going wow, look a
Speaker 1: new baby and wonder how I can screw this one off. No,
Speaker 1: you know, I think most people go in with that into.
Speaker 2: Some mistake that I said that, and Jack has overcome
Speaker 2: a lot.
Speaker 1: He has that little therapy jar that you filled up
Speaker 1: every night. But it's yeah, but I think that we do.
Speaker 1: We go in with the best of intentions thinking, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm doing the best I can. I think at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, we all try our best, and
Speaker 1: that really that hopefully we have more wins than losses.
Speaker 1: That you know, and when you kind of think about
Speaker 1: years of parenting, it's you know, we're we're doing okay.
Speaker 2: We're doing okay, and you're allowed to put you make
Speaker 2: yourself part of that equation too. There were some birthday
Speaker 2: parties where I just said to the kids, look, not
Speaker 2: this weekend. I cannot I can't stand around for another
Speaker 2: four hours at a birthday party. I've got stuff I've
Speaker 2: got to do at home. I'm sorry. Yeah, there was.
Speaker 1: Always those competing demands between you know, a soccer game
Speaker 1: and birthday parties.
Speaker 2: And and you know my need to sit at home
Speaker 2: and churn. Butter, I love it when you laugh at me.
Speaker 2: Should we get to our glimmers.
Speaker 1: Let's get to our glimmers.
Speaker 2: Do you know of a small outberta town called Torrington.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's near a drum heller.
Speaker 2: Of course it is why didn't I start with that, Anita,
Speaker 2: I have seen something that's from that small Alberta town,
Speaker 2: and I'm shocked at A I've never spoken about it
Speaker 2: every single minute of your life, and B that you've
Speaker 2: never taken me there. It's an entire museum dedicated to
Speaker 2: taxidermy gophers. Have you heard of it? I actually have
Speaker 2: heard of it about Oh wow, it's everything I've ever
Speaker 2: dreamt a museum would be. I'm looking at the pictures here.
Speaker 2: Look at that, there's a little gopher. He's got a
Speaker 2: fishing outfit on. Look at this one?
Speaker 1: Is that the stage coach one?
Speaker 2: Yes, he's driving a stage coach.
Speaker 1: My husband's well, she's not really really wasn't their aunt,
Speaker 1: but this and men she used to do taxidermied golfers
Speaker 1: and I think she actually has the stage coach. I
Speaker 1: think may have been hers. Wow, I'm gonna have to
Speaker 1: check with them. What a claim to fame, I know,
Speaker 1: it's amazing.
Speaker 2: So there's one with a little hat on driving a
Speaker 2: stage coach. There's one here dressed as a priest, blessing roadkill.
Speaker 2: I'm imagining giving the last rates to its little buddies.
Speaker 2: This one is a summer lady on a holiday. She's
Speaker 2: got a swimming costume on, and she's stand next to
Speaker 2: a barbecue.
Speaker 1: That is charming.
Speaker 2: I a long with this one because the outfit on
Speaker 2: that that one is well sort of Elizabethan outfit it is.
Speaker 2: This is a Shakespeare maybe a Shakespeare kind of thing,
Speaker 2: or an early seventy year fellow. I know it's not
Speaker 2: right to say it, but I love that stuff. Oh,
Speaker 2: I love that quirky taxidermy. I assume the gophers have
Speaker 2: all been have all died from passive smoking. There is
Speaker 2: no nastiness in the way they met their maker.
Speaker 1: I'm sure that there's not. Like it is a sure
Speaker 1: sign of spring in Alberta when the gophers start running
Speaker 1: across the roads so their roadkill. You probably can't help
Speaker 1: but run over a couple.
Speaker 2: Is it gopher a squirrel?
Speaker 1: No, well it's a rodent, so it related. But a
Speaker 1: squirrel lives up in a tree and a gopher lives
Speaker 1: in little gopher holes.
Speaker 2: It's like Punk's attorney Phil that we saw in Groundhog Day.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So they well much tinier though, and they live
Speaker 1: they tunnel under fields and stuff. So there was an
Speaker 1: inventor a few years ago that came around like from
Speaker 1: Torington area, probably not in Torrington, that had a big
Speaker 1: vacuum truck and he would put the vacuum on the
Speaker 1: little gopher holes stuck them all up. I don't know
Speaker 1: what he did with them. I don't want to know,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I think we're looking at a stagecoach driver.
Speaker 2: I think so well, Anita, that is my glimmer that
Speaker 2: such a place exists, and then it could be our
Speaker 2: future travel plan.
Speaker 1: It's a very very very good glimmer.
Speaker 2: What have you got?
Speaker 1: I am delighted that my part of going off camping,
Speaker 1: and the best part of it is.
Speaker 2: That where's any glimmering?
Speaker 1: I know, I know you don't, but I get to
Speaker 1: go with my grandson had been like my son and
Speaker 1: daughter in law and my husband, and that they're organizing
Speaker 1: it and I don't have to do anything.
Speaker 2: It's just the best.
Speaker 1: I don't have to do any meal planning. I don't
Speaker 1: have to do anything.
Speaker 2: Is that their gift to you? That is a huge
Speaker 2: gift to me that you don't have to do any prep. Oh,
Speaker 2: because that's why I think that's why I wouldn't like
Speaker 2: camping because of the pa lava. I'm not good at
Speaker 2: Pa Lava.
Speaker 1: I know, like I still remember my mom would be
Speaker 1: packing four kids, you know, into a small little station
Speaker 1: wagon and that we would be you know, all the
Speaker 1: kids would be going, can we go already? And my
Speaker 1: mom was just you know, sweat on her brow as
Speaker 1: she was packing up the station wagon.
Speaker 2: It was just and the minute she got there she
Speaker 2: would have had to plan what meals were happening. Yep,
Speaker 2: I didn't make the beds, all that unpacking all that horrible.
Speaker 1: It would be canvas tents and it would be it
Speaker 1: would be awful.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, well, how's yours going to be any
Speaker 2: different to that?
Speaker 1: Well? No, I mean we have like ultra marble and tents.
Speaker 2: It's still an intent.
Speaker 1: I'm still not but it's yeah, but it's comfortable.
Speaker 4: We do have.
Speaker 1: It's comfortable and we get to be outside and it's
Speaker 1: it's gorgeous.
Speaker 2: I love it. Well, you and I can't be somewhere
Speaker 2: all the time. No one of us has to be
Speaker 2: a fool.
Speaker 1: And luckily it was you, lucky meat.
Speaker 2: Lots of love and see next time.
Speaker 1: I love you. But mhm