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Speaker 1: from Australian Survivor's Blood Versus Water currently on Network ten.
Speaker 1: An ex flight attendant who is now a stay at
Speaker 1: home mum of three, took on Australian Survivor with her
Speaker 1: sister Sophie. They boasted a social game, but it was
Speaker 1: Kj's ability to tame her opinions and listen more than
Speaker 1: she talked that proved that Kate was a serious contender
Speaker 1: for the top prize. We talk about that advantage, her
Speaker 1: sister's postgame opinions, who in the finale has the best
Speaker 1: resume and if she has any regrets anyway, I'd like
Speaker 1: to welcome. One of my favorites from this year's Australian Survivor.
Speaker 1: It's kJ.
Speaker 2: My game was never going to be bold and flashy.
Speaker 2: Previously on Australian Survivor, you should have been discouraged from
Speaker 2: going on reality television. My ultimate goal is to go
Speaker 2: home to my three children and say mummy.
Speaker 1: One Survivor.
Speaker 2: There were things I definitely do differently at certain times
Speaker 2: of the game. kJ, could tonight's both be a game
Speaker 2: changing move? To see negativity about the game was quite
Speaker 2: upsetting for me.
Speaker 1: I person voted out of blood versus Water kJ.
Speaker 2: The minute you start sort of showing you know, anger
Speaker 2: or disappointment, you become a target.
Speaker 1: Hi, kJ, how are you?
Speaker 2: How am I? I'm not sure, I don't know. I am.
Speaker 2: I'm okay, I'm good, I'm happy, I'm content and I
Speaker 2: have come to terms with what happened, so I'm alright.
Speaker 1: Well, congratulations on a tooth and nail season of Australian Survivor.
Speaker 1: What were the hardest things about your experience overall?
Speaker 2: Oh? Look, there was the materialistic things, the fun things
Speaker 2: like my no hairbrush, no muscaa, no fake tan, no makeup.
Speaker 2: Because I love my plants. So that was all a
Speaker 2: little bit of fun, the sleeping conditions, but then you
Speaker 2: get down to the nitty gritty, and missing my family
Speaker 2: just added a whole new layer of emotions onto what's
Speaker 2: already a really complex and brutal game. So yeah, it
Speaker 2: was a big decision to leave such young children at home,
Speaker 2: and the preparation that went into leaving them was quite
Speaker 2: a peek in itself. There was spreadsheets and whiteboards and
Speaker 2: had nannies. There was a lot goes to show how
Speaker 2: much work us parents do. And then getting out there
Speaker 2: being able to live out a dream that you've had
Speaker 2: for such a long time, and it going well for
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks, and then you know, a good
Speaker 2: old little survivor twist. The blood versus water element really
Speaker 2: hit hard for myself. So that was pretty tough out
Speaker 2: there as well. I didn't go to plan.
Speaker 1: Well, you said last night that you actively listened more
Speaker 1: than you talked.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, guys. I came in here with
Speaker 2: a strategy of listening more than I talk, and I'm
Speaker 2: really glad I stuck to it because I got to
Speaker 2: hear from some really incredible people. It's going to be
Speaker 2: a pleasure to watch you play. All right, Fay.
Speaker 1: Do you think you know ultimately that is why you
Speaker 1: survived as long as you did.
Speaker 2: I really do. I'm the first to admit Ben that
Speaker 2: my game was never going to be bold and flashy.
Speaker 2: It's not who I am as a person. I'm pretty
Speaker 2: low key and pretty private and just like to dedicate
Speaker 2: myself to family life. But I knew I had the
Speaker 2: smarts out there, So I know my game probably wasn't
Speaker 2: interesting to people, but that's okay. That does not bother
Speaker 2: me in the slidest. My game got me to where
Speaker 2: I was. I listened more than I talked. I was
Speaker 2: interested and not interesting. I just wanted to have people
Speaker 2: trust me. I wanted to show that I was a
Speaker 2: supportive person, and I just wanted to gather as much
Speaker 2: information as I could so then I could adapt my
Speaker 2: game and help out people I wanted to work with.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it was a pretty It was a low
Speaker 2: key game at times, but I feel that I feel
Speaker 2: it I did all right. I did well in the end.
Speaker 2: I got there. It was hard, there was a lot,
Speaker 2: and there was so many twists and turns, and it
Speaker 2: was complicated.
Speaker 1: Well, I think you're being very hard on yourself because
Speaker 1: you made one of the best moves in my mind
Speaker 1: in the series. The way that you rolled out your
Speaker 1: advantage was not only just great television, but it was
Speaker 1: a strong message to everyone watching the show that we
Speaker 1: should look at everything from all angles and not just
Speaker 1: the obvious.
Speaker 2: That's right, and I feel that you should have been
Speaker 2: discouraged from going on a reality television, especially a game
Speaker 2: like sciber if you are not a big, out there,
Speaker 2: confident person, that's not necessarily the key to success. Yes,
Speaker 2: you can be a bit of a wallflower at times,
Speaker 2: and especially in a game like Survivor, play that up
Speaker 2: if you want, which I certainly did. And so when
Speaker 2: I have advantage, I got to really showcase my strategic
Speaker 2: side and give the audience a glimpse of what I
Speaker 2: am capable of. I knew it was within me. It
Speaker 2: was just about having the opportunity to bring it out
Speaker 2: because previously I had no alliance, so I never had
Speaker 2: the numbers to do what I really wanted to do.
Speaker 2: So it was a really great and empowering feeling to
Speaker 2: be sitting there and be a little bit cheeky and
Speaker 2: have a bit of fun with it.
Speaker 1: Well, is that how you would play it if you
Speaker 1: had that advantage again, because when you got to Tribal
Speaker 1: last night and you got to interact with everyone, people
Speaker 1: were giving you a hard time, which I thought was
Speaker 1: super duper unfair because it was one of my favorite
Speaker 1: things you did. But after hearing that and having the
Speaker 1: time that you've had now, is that how you would
Speaker 1: play that advantage?
Speaker 2: Absolutely? I stand by all my decisions. I definitely can't
Speaker 2: say I don't have regrets. I do. Know a lot
Speaker 2: of people say I played and I don't have a regrets.
Speaker 2: I do. I'm very realistic and there were things I
Speaker 2: definitely do differently at certain times of the game, but
Speaker 2: that's not one of them. I knew we had to
Speaker 2: break up that really strong alliance. I knew that Jordan, Josh,
Speaker 2: and Chrissy were such a tight three. The show didn't
Speaker 2: give their relationship probably as much airtime as it deserved.
Speaker 2: They were very tight, and so the writing was on
Speaker 2: the wall that we had to break them up and
Speaker 2: we couldn't risk one of us going home. If Sam
Speaker 2: had played the idol and she was so good and
Speaker 2: what she did. I loved watching them. From a fan
Speaker 2: point of view, I was sitting there going she is good.
Speaker 2: I don't know she's play this. I had to sometimes
Speaker 2: kind of like, come on, Okate, snap out of this.
Speaker 2: You're actually playing, you're not watching. So I wouldn't change
Speaker 2: that at all. The reception I got back at camp
Speaker 2: that night was very frosty, and you know that was saying, oh,
Speaker 2: there's going to be consequences, but these were the consequences
Speaker 2: of continuously writing my name down, underestimating me, not wanting
Speaker 2: to listen to me. These were the consequences. And then
Speaker 2: at Juri Villa, Yeah, once again very frost Sam and
Speaker 2: I both didn't receive the warmest welcome compared to some
Speaker 2: of the guys, but that's just sometimes what happens. And
Speaker 2: we had some really supportive people in the jury as
Speaker 2: well that were there by our side. I think you
Speaker 2: could have gone further with your advantage off the way
Speaker 2: you used it, you stuck to your majority, played out
Speaker 2: the way it's played out.
Speaker 1: I think you wasted that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, probably in hindsight.
Speaker 1: Like it was a good move.
Speaker 2: I respect the move, but I feel it was a
Speaker 2: bit interesting that you didn't stick with the majority after
Speaker 2: hell and you fought to grab.
Speaker 1: It well even Jonathan Lapalia last night took to Twitter
Speaker 1: to call out your sister's Sophie's shenanigans. Do you think
Speaker 1: that he was right to exclaim, you know, that she
Speaker 1: floundered your gameplay.
Speaker 2: She definitely said it on a different path to what
Speaker 2: I had envisis. It was actually quite sad that our
Speaker 2: games did in the line whatsoever. We're very very different people,
Speaker 2: very different people, and it was a fear of mind
Speaker 2: going into the game that something may happen and it
Speaker 2: would sort of do some damage. And it did, and
Speaker 2: I was in damage control for a while there. We
Speaker 2: all handle pressure differently, and I was able to internalize
Speaker 2: a lot of my emotions, which in the game of
Speaker 2: survivor is a very very important thing to do. The
Speaker 2: minute you start sort of showing, you know, anger or disappointment,
Speaker 2: you become a target. So she wasn't happy with what
Speaker 2: had happened at the Blood Tribe came into my tribe,
Speaker 2: said a few things about, you know, her previous tribe
Speaker 2: mates for getting maybe, hey, these are their loved ones
Speaker 2: here and I'm working with them, so let's just chill
Speaker 2: out a little bit. But yeah, it was a really
Speaker 2: draining situation. It was tough, and I felt like it
Speaker 2: made me retreat a lot, and I lost a bit
Speaker 2: of confidence and really sort of went into my shell.
Speaker 2: And I had tribe mates notice that and say, you know,
Speaker 2: what's happened? Was Kate gone? And I don't think I
Speaker 2: recovered from that at all, because then there was writing
Speaker 2: her name down and I am the big sister, and
Speaker 2: I felt guilty for doing so, but the writing was
Speaker 2: on the wall, as I said, I needed to go
Speaker 2: further in this game, and I was going to go
Speaker 2: further than she was, and yeah, I did what I
Speaker 2: had to do.
Speaker 1: I loved your public support of Sophie. I thought that
Speaker 1: was great because there was, you know, a lot of
Speaker 1: backlash and you know, she did kind of kick up
Speaker 1: her heels on social media and cause a bit of
Speaker 1: attention after her exit from the show. But I loved
Speaker 1: the fact that you still were the big sister and
Speaker 1: you were looking after her. But do you think that
Speaker 1: it was warranted? Do you think that you know how
Speaker 1: her game played out and her reaction on social media,
Speaker 1: do you think that was warranted?
Speaker 2: Not at all. No, it wasn't warranted whatsoever. I wanted
Speaker 2: her to stop that, and not just for the game.
Speaker 2: You know, I have so much respect for the game
Speaker 2: and production and all the people that put their time
Speaker 2: and effort into it. To see negativity about the game
Speaker 2: was quite upsetting for me. But also I had made
Speaker 2: and had made some friendships that will last a lifetime
Speaker 2: and I didn't want any more damage to them. And
Speaker 2: also I still wanted her to come away from the
Speaker 2: game with some positivity. She did well, not you know,
Speaker 2: she got three weeks into the game. She was incredible
Speaker 2: in challenges. I wanted her to feel proud of herself
Speaker 2: and what she does. But I just didn't want any
Speaker 2: negativity surrounding our experience because this most likely won't ever
Speaker 2: happen again. You get one shot, and I'm a pretty
Speaker 2: positive person and I look at her life with a
Speaker 2: lot of gratitude, and no matter what happens on the game,
Speaker 2: I was able to separate that from sort of reality.
Speaker 2: And I think Sophie had a bit of trouble doing so.
Speaker 2: And she wears her heart on her sleeve and she's
Speaker 2: very outspoken, and yeah, it was a shame the way
Speaker 2: it played out, and I know she was hurt by
Speaker 2: certain people. I just could not get involved too much
Speaker 2: because that then you know, had a negative impact on
Speaker 2: me sort of mentally.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I can imagine it would be the same as
Speaker 1: how I would be with my brother. I'd ring him
Speaker 1: on the phone, he wouldn't answer, and then I'd send
Speaker 1: him a text message, stop this, put yourself together.
Speaker 2: No, I just had to remove myself from the situation, which,
Speaker 2: you know, maybe that showed I wasn't loyal to her,
Speaker 2: but I was and I care for her very deeply.
Speaker 2: But I just needed to power on because I was
Speaker 2: still on the show, and I knew that I was
Speaker 2: going to be on until the second last episode, so
Speaker 2: I kind of wanted to just concentrate on the gameplay
Speaker 2: and some of the big moves that led to her demise.
Speaker 2: From a fans point of view, that were great moves,
Speaker 2: and I know she respects them. I just wanted her
Speaker 2: to have more of a positive experience than I think
Speaker 2: was sort of played out on television. I never expected
Speaker 2: it to be such a talking point, to be honest,
Speaker 2: as I said, pretty low key, wanted to get in there, strategize,
Speaker 2: play the game, come out of the game, and go
Speaker 2: back to you know, life, and get the trackies back on.
Speaker 1: And well, there's been so much talk about the Battle
Speaker 1: of the sexes this season with a male strong alliance,
Speaker 1: Do you think that Survivor can be a true representation
Speaker 1: of where we are in society?
Speaker 2: Yes, I think it can. I won't lie. There was
Speaker 2: a very strong core group of men out there but
Speaker 2: insane that I have to stick up for them because
Speaker 2: they were all really lovely guys and that was their strategy.
Speaker 2: There were some words thrown out that I didn't agree with, calling,
Speaker 2: you know, the girls weak or you know, I got
Speaker 2: called flaky things like that. I don't agree with that.
Speaker 2: I think there's a better way of putting it. That
Speaker 2: was their strategy though, But also, we are so hungry
Speaker 2: and so tired out there, you aren't thinking clearly at all.
Speaker 2: I can definitely say that I feel like they It
Speaker 2: was just a bunch of guys they got together. They
Speaker 2: were all very physically strong, and they bonded over that,
Speaker 2: and their strategy was to sort of carry each other
Speaker 2: through as far as they could and then battle it out.
Speaker 2: They might have underestimated a couple of the smaller girls
Speaker 2: in terms of sam her strategic mind and her gameplay
Speaker 2: was just ten out of ten, like Wow, she played
Speaker 2: a river of a game. Then you've got Shaye, what
Speaker 2: a physical power house, who is beating these in these challenges.
Speaker 2: I don't think they really took that into consideration. You've
Speaker 2: got Chrissy, who's played one of the best social games
Speaker 2: I've ever seen and she's stayed true to it. And
Speaker 2: then you know, little of Me pops up from time
Speaker 2: to time and just throws a couple of bombs out
Speaker 2: there and has a crack. So I feel like we
Speaker 2: as women, we gave it a fair a fair go.
Speaker 2: We always behaved with dignity, we spoke well of each other,
Speaker 2: and I'm really proud that there's two really strong women
Speaker 2: still there at the end. I wish I could have
Speaker 2: been there with them. We wanted that final three, you know,
Speaker 2: get rid of that boys club and have the ladies
Speaker 2: at the end, but it wasn't to be.
Speaker 1: We still chipped away back to the halfway through that
Speaker 1: you were thinking it's just going to be an all
Speaker 1: male finale, and here we are with two really strong
Speaker 1: women and the fact that you were there right to
Speaker 1: the end, like it's just the tides the.
Speaker 2: Tides, And yeah, there was three girls and two guys
Speaker 2: at the end. I think the reason they got rid
Speaker 2: of mad like we kind of yeah, they didn't want
Speaker 2: the girls.
Speaker 1: At the end, Mark did do a sneaky that was
Speaker 1: in your words. Do you think that Mark has been
Speaker 1: as good as what he has protested in his bits
Speaker 1: to camera.
Speaker 2: Yes, I do, but I also think we can't ignore
Speaker 2: the fact that his wife played one of the most
Speaker 2: epic games we've seen in a while. So those two
Speaker 2: as a pair, we were brilliant. He's played very very
Speaker 2: well using Josh A's a shield, Sammy sacrificing her game.
Speaker 2: They were just so well prepared and they came in,
Speaker 2: they knew what they had to do, and he is
Speaker 2: now in the final four. It's paying off. And then
Speaker 2: I think Josh's game has been just as good, and
Speaker 2: it probably hasn't been shown in the edit as well
Speaker 2: as much, but just speaking to a lot of you know,
Speaker 2: the Survivor contestants, and we were so impressed with Josh's game,
Speaker 2: so both equally as impressive. I think Mark can talk,
Speaker 2: and he certainly talked his way into arts last night. Shane.
Speaker 2: I just believed the big soldier and you know, there
Speaker 2: were conversations going on for a couple of days about
Speaker 2: him wanting Josh out. But it turns out he was
Speaker 2: just selling us the candy and it was always me.
Speaker 2: So that's okay.
Speaker 1: Well, Chrissy changed her vote last night, you know, in
Speaker 1: the revote. Do you think that was fair of what
Speaker 1: Chrissy decided to do.
Speaker 2: I think she made a decision in the moment based
Speaker 2: on the fact that we hadn't told her the truth,
Speaker 2: So I don't blame her for that. What had happened
Speaker 2: was we had to basically choose as that Mark or
Speaker 2: is at Josh going home. From our perspective, Shane, I
Speaker 2: there was more chance of Mark making a move than
Speaker 2: Chrissy because her game was based around loyalty to her alliance,
Speaker 2: and she often spoke about how close she was to
Speaker 2: Josh and Mark. We just not for a second thought
Speaker 2: then that she was going to flip. We just did
Speaker 2: not think it was going to happen, and we thought, well, Mark,
Speaker 2: Mark could Mark could definitely make a move here, and
Speaker 2: he was telling us he was going to. So I
Speaker 2: think Chrissy's decision to vote me out wasn't one based
Speaker 2: on head. I think she went with her heart then,
Speaker 2: and she was frustrated that we probably, yeah, we hadn't
Speaker 2: told her the truth. The reason we didn't tell her
Speaker 2: the truth was because we knew she'd go and tell
Speaker 2: Josh that he was our target, and there was a
Speaker 2: huge chance that Josh would then get the vote on me,
Speaker 2: which turns out was sort of the plan the whole
Speaker 2: way along.
Speaker 1: Anyway, I love Chrissy. I think that there's something very
Speaker 1: endearing about her. When she first turned up, I was like,
Speaker 1: who's that lady with the crazy eyes? And then by
Speaker 1: the time it's got to the end of like, oh,
Speaker 1: she's just good.
Speaker 2: Telling he's fantastic. She's what a survivor needed this year,
Speaker 2: just a little bit of yeah, a little bit of
Speaker 2: light hardness and just keeping things real. And she's exactly
Speaker 2: like that in real life. She's just a beautiful person
Speaker 2: inside and out. And I'm very lucky to call her
Speaker 2: a friend, as I am with she also, who's just
Speaker 2: as beautiful. So you've got some really great women there
Speaker 2: at the end. And you know there's commentary out there
Speaker 2: that their goats. They're only there to get sort of
Speaker 2: you know, voted out or go up against the easy beats,
Speaker 2: and I think that's so unfair because to make the
Speaker 2: top five of Survivor, you have had to have done
Speaker 2: something right to get there, and that might mean that
Speaker 2: at times you have to adapt and play a role
Speaker 2: and you might have to take a step back, and
Speaker 2: you might have to be content with you know where
Speaker 2: you're at, and not be too flashy, be subtle. And
Speaker 2: I feel like Shay's done that really well because she
Speaker 2: knew her physical prowess would probably has put a huge
Speaker 2: target on her back. Chrissy's just been Chrissy, and you
Speaker 2: can't ask for much more, to be honest, There's people
Speaker 2: out there that you know were threatened by a social game,
Speaker 2: as they should beat because she's just a really, really
Speaker 2: great person.
Speaker 1: What about that vote, the vote that always came out
Speaker 1: one vote, kJ, What was going through your mind? And
Speaker 1: did you know where that vote was coming from?
Speaker 2: It was? Yeah, So I multiple times I was told
Speaker 2: that my name would be written down and I still
Speaker 2: hadn't worked out if that's a good thing or a
Speaker 2: bad thing. I wanted to shout from the rooftops, like
Speaker 2: why are you doing this? But that's part of my
Speaker 2: game plan. If you do that, and you sort of
Speaker 2: ruffle some feathers and I was almost walking on eggshells
Speaker 2: for a while there after, Sophie went home because I
Speaker 2: didn't want to show any form of aggression, thinking well,
Speaker 2: they might just pigeonhole me too and get rid of me.
Speaker 2: So I had to bite my tongue so much. Ben really,
Speaker 2: as I said earlier, internalized everything, which once I got
Speaker 2: out that all just came to the surface. But those
Speaker 2: random votes, I knew they were coming. I knew most
Speaker 2: of the time they were from Josh, there was a
Speaker 2: couple from Michelle, and the intention was for me to
Speaker 2: never go home. I was never the first target. It
Speaker 2: was always a just in case, and I got really
Speaker 2: sick of being a just in case vote and I
Speaker 2: wanted to do more about it. I just didn't have
Speaker 2: the numbers. But it's become a bit of a joke now,
Speaker 2: and that's all you can do. Sometimes. I'm just having
Speaker 2: a laugh with it all and focusing on the fact
Speaker 2: that I got to play and I really did experience
Speaker 2: the full game of Survivor. From having his sister voted in,
Speaker 2: his sister voted out, getting voted into another tribe, merge furgatry,
Speaker 2: finding an advantage, making the top five, There's not much
Speaker 2: more I really could have done, apart from win the game.
Speaker 2: So yeah, for someone that's wanted to play for a
Speaker 2: very long time, I really did get to experience everything
Speaker 2: and it was very exhausting. But also I just wanted
Speaker 2: to play, yeah, and be humble and be kind to
Speaker 2: people and show my sport and just have some fun
Speaker 2: and do game of Survivor justice.
Speaker 1: I like to say that you bought the full Survivor showbag.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, didn't I? I got the big expensive
Speaker 2: one health who.
Speaker 1: Has the best resume and is your most deserving winner
Speaker 1: for the finale?
Speaker 2: Can I? No? I can't split Mark and Josh. Their
Speaker 2: resumes are incredible, and that's why I didn't want to
Speaker 2: go up against them at the end. Josh didn't have
Speaker 2: two idols in his pocket the whole time, so he
Speaker 2: didn't sort of have that comfortable feeling and he didn't
Speaker 2: have an absolute weapon by his side in terms of SAM.
Speaker 2: So I really respect Josh and the way he played
Speaker 2: was admirable and pretty great to watch, and I would
Speaker 2: be surprised, yeah, if he didn't win. But then Mark, Wow,
Speaker 2: he was brilliant. He came in with a plan, he
Speaker 2: executed the plan, he stuck by his plan. He had
Speaker 2: prepared so much, and he played well and he made
Speaker 2: you feel so comfortable. But then I was an underdog
Speaker 2: the whole time, So my heart wants one of the
Speaker 2: underdogs to win. So I'm yelling out for the girls.
Speaker 1: I think there'd be a lot of people agreeing with
Speaker 1: you on that. What is something? Yes, this is something
Speaker 1: I always ask everyone that joins the podcast, and I've
Speaker 1: done it for the last year and a half. What
Speaker 1: is something from behind the scenes that we're as an
Speaker 1: audience did not see and will not see that you
Speaker 1: can tell us from behind the scenes of your time
Speaker 1: on Survivor.
Speaker 2: Because in SVIVA, you were at the camp. You have
Speaker 2: to speak really quietly to each other, so you obviously
Speaker 2: don't get overheard by the other tribe mates, and so
Speaker 2: you'd be whispering a strategy or who you were going
Speaker 2: to vote out, and then all of a sudden you
Speaker 2: get donked in the head by those big fluffy microphones,
Speaker 2: and that meant obviously you needed to talk louder. But
Speaker 2: I was always so aware that someone could be behind
Speaker 2: a tree listening and everyone was wandering around like I
Speaker 2: was notorious for listening into other people's conversations. I would
Speaker 2: pretend to be asleep and listen. I found out about
Speaker 2: one of Mark's idols because I was asleep pretending to
Speaker 2: be asleep and heard him talk about it.
Speaker 1: So wow.
Speaker 2: It was being hit in the head numerous times with
Speaker 2: the microphones because we weren't talking loudly enough, and then
Speaker 2: we'd lose it. We'd start to laugh, but then we'd
Speaker 2: have to go and start that stretch out again so
Speaker 2: they could get it for the camera.
Speaker 1: I've given us the best one from the entire interviews
Speaker 1: of everyone from Survivor, that's the best, okay, J I
Speaker 1: just want to say I absolutely loved you on the show.
Speaker 1: I think you have way more to be proud of
Speaker 1: than what I can hear from you today. You were
Speaker 1: a fantastic contribution to the show. You made it right
Speaker 1: to the very end, and I wanted to say thanks
Speaker 1: so much for even having this chat with me today.
Speaker 1: It's been so much fun.
Speaker 2: Well that means so much, Ben. That really tues because
Speaker 2: you do a lot of work in your space, so
Speaker 2: I don't take that lightly. I really appreciate it and
Speaker 2: I've had fun, so it's all good and enjoy tonight.
Speaker 2: I get my Gin and Tonic ready to speed up
Speaker 2: and watch them. My jury glow up