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Speaker 1: Welcome to fearlessly Failing Hot Seat. In this EPP, I

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Speaker 1: fire rapid questions at one of our fearlessly failing guests. PS,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be answing you. I'm not so good at

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Speaker 1: the rapid part. I get too intrigued by the awesome answers.

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Speaker 1: Now a new EPP is going to drop every Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: so enjoy this shortest style episode of fearlessly Failing Hot Seat.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the hot Seed. Full name my friend.

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Speaker 2: Reese Carter, no middle middle Reese Andrew Carter. Oh but

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Speaker 2: nobody calls me that.

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Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite meal?

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Speaker 2: I mean it sounds very generic with pizza, okay you no?

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Speaker 1: No? What's what's on top?

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Speaker 2: I thought the whole joy that was pizza could have

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Speaker 2: anything on top?

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Speaker 1: Are you a pineapple person?

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Speaker 2: I am a pineapple yuma.

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Speaker 1: Americans can't stand anchovies on a pizza.

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Speaker 2: Do you know I want anchovies on everything?

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Speaker 1: Same you and me both.

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Speaker 2: Maybe not with the pineapple.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'm with you on that one too.

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Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite song?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Favorite song? Okay? All I want for Christmas is you.

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Speaker 1: I thought you were to give me a tea swizzle, like,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, I should.

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Speaker 2: Have been Taylor Swift. I am a Taylor fan. But

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Speaker 2: I also love Christmas and I love that song, so

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Speaker 2: it's a double.

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Speaker 1: Love Christmas so much.

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Speaker 3: Also, I love Halloween so much, so your book is

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Speaker 3: perfect for Halloween.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love Halloween and I'm hoping that I'm going

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Speaker 2: to see people dressed up as my characters next Halloween.

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Speaker 1: One thousand million percent, one thousand million percent. What's the

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Speaker 1: bravest thing you've done.

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Speaker 2: Bravest thing I've done, I think is write this book. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: like it's it might be a book about ghosts and

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Speaker 2: witches and everything else, but it has an emotional heart

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Speaker 2: to it that is really important to me. And putting

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Speaker 2: that out there so that people can read it is. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that felt brave.

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Speaker 3: Which is called the book is called A Girl Called

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Speaker 3: Cops and it's officially out now. Good Crimbo presi as well.

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Speaker 3: It is Okay.

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Speaker 1: So if you weren't, I feel like I might know

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Speaker 1: the NSS.

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Speaker 3: But if you weren't a writer and creating books for

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Speaker 3: awesome kiddos like the is, what would you be doing?

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Speaker 1: Because when we met, you were a natural path.

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Speaker 2: Well when we met, yeah, I was a naturopath and

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Speaker 2: then I worked as a nutritionist and we worked in

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Speaker 2: health and wellness. But I wouldn't go back to that now.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I would like open a resort for cute dogs

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Speaker 2: or somewhere.

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Speaker 3: I feel like you've got a very long career ahead

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Speaker 3: of you of writing books like this, So you're set.

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Speaker 1: Do you have a fear?

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Speaker 2: I do it? Let's come back to this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, do you know it's the most interesting quation?

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Speaker 1: A lot of people say needles?

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Speaker 2: Really?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and death they're the two big, big guns that

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Speaker 3: come up.

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Speaker 1: But have a think you can sit on that one.

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Speaker 2: I'll sit on that one.

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Speaker 3: You will like this next question? What would your superpower

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Speaker 3: be if you could have one?

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Speaker 2: Without a doubt? My superpower would be flight?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, quick flight, Like, would you want to get somewhere quickly?

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Speaker 2: I'd like to take my time? Yeah, I would like

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Speaker 2: to take my time. Yeah. The other one is invisibility.

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Speaker 2: But someone told me once that if you say that,

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Speaker 2: you must be shifty, because what are you trying to

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Speaker 2: get away with?

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Speaker 1: Oh? No, invisibility is so handy?

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Speaker 2: Are you shifty? Lola? Probably?

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Speaker 1: Okay? Would you say you've had a failure?

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Speaker 2: I would say I've had a lot of failures. I

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Speaker 2: even in writing, even in my writing career, I've had

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Speaker 2: view of what a failure has been has changed. So

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Speaker 2: I would say the first three books I wrote technically failures.

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Speaker 2: But if you see a failure as a diversion rather

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Speaker 1: Oh I love that. If you had a spirit animal,

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Speaker 1: what would it be?

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Speaker 2: Giraffe? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're very tall.

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent. I don't know what it is, but

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Speaker 2: whenever I see a giraffe, I'm like, hey, brother.

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Speaker 1: And then what say? Your favorite animal is a.

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Speaker 2: Very specific answer for that would be Hagrid my dog? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: of course, generically, also giraffe.

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Speaker 1: What is Hagrid's breed?

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Speaker 2: Hagrid is a flat coated Retriever, so he's much like

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Speaker 2: a Golden Retriever, but jet black and they stay puppies forever.

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Speaker 2: So he's forty five kilos of tornado energy.

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Speaker 1: Amazing. What's something that moved you recently?

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Speaker 2: Something that moved me recently was a book. But something

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Speaker 2: that moved me recently was a book by my friend

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Speaker 2: Tobias Man. Anything but Fine. It's a queer ya story

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Speaker 2: and I think that as a gay guy myself, it

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Speaker 2: kind of the Luca's story in it felt so relatable,

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Speaker 2: and you know, I didn't often get a chance to

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Speaker 2: read stories like that when I was a teenager, so

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Speaker 2: it really kind of tar to my eye.

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Speaker 1: I have to.

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Speaker 3: I have to read this because I loved Holding the Man,

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Speaker 3: which is probably not hya.

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Speaker 2: Holding the Man's probably a little bit older. Yeah, but

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Speaker 2: a beautiful, beautiful book. That's a gut wrenching book.

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Speaker 1: You've seen the movie as well, I have incredible.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so good. I mean, it's such a classic. I

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Speaker 2: love Holding Man, but Anything but Fine is kind of

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Speaker 3: Sign me up. I'm totally going to read this. Okay,

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Speaker 3: So this is a hard question for you. So I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm going to reverse. I'm gonna put a different question

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Speaker 1: before it because I feel like you're gonna be Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So do you have a favorite movie? First Hocus Pocus?

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Speaker 1: Have you watched the second?

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Speaker 2: And the second one was really good? Have you seen it?

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Speaker 3: I've met that, I've Scott it on Disney Plus to watch.

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Speaker 3: But I've met the costume designer. He was showing me

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Speaker 2: Amazing. It's so good because it's a it's kind of

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Speaker 2: love hocus Pocus like me, there are enough kind of

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Speaker 3: Well, he was saying that even about the costumes. He

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Speaker 2: It's so interesting and you can just tell that that

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Speaker 3: Okay, watching that as soon as I get home as well. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite book?

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Speaker 2: I actually do, The Graveyard Book by Neil Gaiman. Have

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Speaker 2: ever read it down? So it's middle grade as well.

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Speaker 2: It's about a It has quite a dark premise, but

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Speaker 2: so it's about a boy who parents are murdered. We

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Speaker 2: So we see his entire childhood being raised by these ghosts,

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Speaker 2: But the sense of family he has with these ghosts

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Speaker 2: is that it has to be balanced out. The darkness

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Speaker 3: This is why I keep coming back to I'm going

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Speaker 1: Muscle the shell with no Shoes, with shoes.

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Speaker 3: Yes, please still love it because it's about grief, which

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Speaker 3: is sad for anyone but kiddos, But it's so warm

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Speaker 2: Well, you need to be able to deal with these.

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Speaker 2: You need to be able to tell kids stories that

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Speaker 2: deal with difficult issues. We can't sugar coat and pretend

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Speaker 2: like do you remember the movie Soul?

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Speaker 1: I hope is what gets me through.

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Speaker 3: Like that's one of my value systems, to actually feel hopeful.

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Speaker 2: Maybe tenacity my best No, that is right, though, my

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Speaker 2: I would say kind of. I would say discipline and tenacity,

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Speaker 2: worst trade. Yeah yeah, if that's your next question, is

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Speaker 2: I need to be better at putting kind of boundaries

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Speaker 3: Okay, So I've got some weird questions now, because this

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Speaker 1: Have you ever skydived?

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Speaker 2: No? Booked it three times, and all three times it

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Speaker 2: was like, that is a sign.

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Speaker 1: That's what miss sharks. You're from w A.

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Speaker 2: Never done it. I'm terrified of sharks, and now you've

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Speaker 1: Feel like where you grew up, I know you grew

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And also like, there are a lot of sharks

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Speaker 2: in w A, but we're not mates with them. No

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Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite holiday destination?

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Speaker 2: Favorite holiday destination would be Dun's Broke in southwest w A.

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Speaker 2: It's says something about that place. I mean, we have

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Speaker 2: Good Alexis says Todave what David is when he's going

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Speaker 3: Totally, totally, totally, Okay. If you could switch larves with anybody,

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Speaker 2: Nobody? I like mine?

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Speaker 2: My advice for a young writer is to forget everything

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Speaker 2: you think you know about talent. I think talent is

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Speaker 2: And I think that you've got everything that it takes.

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Speaker 2: You just have to go and learn how to write,

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Speaker 1: Hard work. Trump's talent every single every time. Thank you, Race,

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Speaker 1: You're wonderful.

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