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Speaker 1: Powered by the Myart Radio app from ninety six air

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Speaker 1: VM to where Abby You're listening today?

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Speaker 2: This is Clezy and Lias's podcast.

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Speaker 3: Coming up on the podcast today, the wonderful Leon Moriarty

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Speaker 3: talks about her new book Here One Moment, we.

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Speaker 4: Got all laser in the History of Sound today talking

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Speaker 4: about CDs and we found out about your first or

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Speaker 4: favorite CD.

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Speaker 3: Their strife in East Trio over a shark logo.

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Speaker 2: How ridiculous beetlejuice. Beetle juice. No, it's not an echo.

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Speaker 2: It's the new movie we've ben Ochet.

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Speaker 3: And is Robbie Williams stirring up? Noel Gallagher again?

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Speaker 2: Yes he is, he is, seegey boy. This is a journey.

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Speaker 5: Little stuff pop up the val your Clezy leases the

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Speaker 5: History of Sound.

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Speaker 3: Continuing our delve into the history of sound. We've moved

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Speaker 3: from the phonographic cylinder, to vinyl, to cassette tapes to

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Speaker 3: arriving today at the Compact disc and joining us today.

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Speaker 3: Assistant Curator at the National Film and Sound Archive of Australia,

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Speaker 3: Nathan Smith, good morning.

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Speaker 6: Good morning, Hey, how are you thank.

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Speaker 2: You so much for joining us?

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Speaker 6: No, no, no problem at all.

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Speaker 3: Who invented the earliest known version of the compact disc, well,

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Speaker 3: the early known.

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Speaker 6: Version of Combatist was created by a guy named James T.

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Speaker 6: Russell back in the sixties, and he actually had a

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Speaker 6: bit of a patent for it in nineteen seventy. It

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Speaker 6: wasn't until Sony and Philip actually kind of got a

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Speaker 6: took a little while for James to kind of get

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Speaker 6: his dues for creating the city, but he actually did,

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Speaker 6: and he you know, I think they ended up paying

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Speaker 6: him back in the eighties. Yeah, well, I actually think

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Speaker 6: he's still alive. I think he's like ninety two or

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Speaker 4: Well, how does the technology work make because these shiny

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, absolutely. So obviously the disc was kind of creator,

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Speaker 6: so it's basically an evolution of like laser disc technology.

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Speaker 6: And then obviously, you know, the music is kind of

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Speaker 6: of gets mastered and then it kind of essentially gets

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Speaker 6: those ones and zeros. And kind of decode it back

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Speaker 6: into what we kind of know today. But the reason

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Speaker 6: why CDs kind of became so popular because it was

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Speaker 6: all about kind of the evolution of technology and you know,

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Speaker 6: kind of having like the better quality kind of files.

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Speaker 6: When James actually originally created the technology in the sixties

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Speaker 6: and seventies, he was actually a classical music buff. Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 6: and he was just a little bit sick and tired

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Speaker 6: of the wear and tear his CDs, so he wanted

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Speaker 6: kind of to kind of create something that would kind

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Speaker 6: created this like contactless type listening device. Yeah yeah, so

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Speaker 6: you so you were in theory you would never have

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Speaker 6: Brothers in Arms like distraits. They kind of got released

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Speaker 3: absolute juggernauts of the audio world. They must have they

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Speaker 6: Oh, totally, absolutely they were onto a winner. I mean,

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, I still think that a lure of this the

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Speaker 3: It was like a shiny thing something from space nature.

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Speaker 6: But there was also too like having you know, like

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Speaker 6: They were about one thousand dollars back in the eighties

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Speaker 6: for a really expensive vinyl was about fifteen hundred. Generally speaking,

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Speaker 6: they kind of decreased about three to five hundred dollars. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you think it's not a needle of

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Speaker 6: They didn't really like scratches, and they didn't like.

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Speaker 2: Thinkerprint now that's weird as an I. Yeah, and skate

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Speaker 6: you're dead right the scratches and then you know, you could,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Nathan, I really feel like they were marketed to

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Speaker 2: With a CD. Because I was one of these idiots, it.

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Speaker 3: Was led to believe, and I wasn't the only one

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Speaker 2: I feel like we were a little bit would we

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Speaker 6: Oh, totally absolutely. I mean my format was during the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, as consumers.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but that's all right, it's kind of fun and

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Speaker 6: like you know, CDs are still relevant to this day.

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Speaker 6: People still release them, Like my daughter, for example, him

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Speaker 7: That we enjoyed about that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, mate, And like a lot of people didn't

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Speaker 4: But I'm finding now even places like Facebook, Marketplace and

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Speaker 4: people selling two hundred for fifty dollars and you think, yeah,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, they do sell for kind of pretty cheap

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Speaker 8: I mean, at the end of the day.

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Speaker 6: We kind of pass things on, and you know, things

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Speaker 6: And it wasn't just audio as well, Like obviously it

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Speaker 3: And I feel like the DVD replacing the VHS tape,

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Speaker 3: I mean, it wasn't such a thing about it, but

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think we kind of forget how many CDs

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Speaker 4: That penomal a lot, considering how many weren't necessarily just

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Speaker 6: Yeh, that's right. And some of obviously the big successes

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Speaker 3: Of course some benefiting for all the wrong reasons. They

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Speaker 6: That was definite.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was too easy to You didn't get that

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Speaker 2: You didn't come back from Barley with a bunch of

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Speaker 6: No, And you'd make mixtapes on CDs as well, mixtapes

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Speaker 6: that you would record off the radio with your foot

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Speaker 6: kind of similar to CDs and you exchange them. You know,

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Speaker 6: I remember kind of doing that. You make tape for

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Speaker 6: the moment, checked us out and go from there and

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Speaker 6: it was how we kind of socialized. This is like

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Speaker 6: what it was before social media.

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Speaker 2: And whatnot, so exactly, very very generating social Well, Nathan,

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Speaker 2: do you remember what your first CD was?

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Speaker 6: Oh, my goodness, I've got memories of buying a CDC's

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Speaker 6: The Razor Edge when when I was about twelve years old,

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Speaker 6: the album that has understruck. But it's so like, it's

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Speaker 6: I'm listening to them in the eighties and nineties, but

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Speaker 6: yet all the like n Cave Records as well, Rim

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Speaker 6: and very I was very pleased to hear that you

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Speaker 3: Thank you for joining us this morning to take our

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Speaker 4: National Film and Sound Archive of Australia. Brilliant than so

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Speaker 3: This morning, we've reached the c D age in our

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Speaker 2: Underneath the Radar by Underworld. Absolutely. She said she brought

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Speaker 2: The production is a good one. The production, it is amazing.

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Speaker 4: They had a lot going on cleaning that laugh underneath.

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Speaker 4: Let's Chris, Chris, they're great. Yeah, what's your early CD?

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Speaker 4: You're an any memories for us?

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Speaker 6: Yes? My first CD one of my cousin's twenty first birthday.

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Speaker 7: It was Adam's family grew.

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Speaker 2: Well, it wasn't you can't touch this, was it?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, we never had to say my parents met a player,

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Speaker 2: Until I go to CD player.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Chris, thank you.

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Speaker 2: You can't underestimate what laser meant to us. Laser technology.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, we loved technolo. I loved technology until I

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Speaker 3: Timmy before I said as a text saying back in

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Speaker 2: CDs brought diss to my heart.

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Speaker 3: Naomi and Heathridge said, I got my first CD for

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Speaker 3: Christmas in nineteen ninety two. It was Informer by Snot

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Speaker 2: Was cool wrapping around the house? Yes? I love it.

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Speaker 2: It's too Michelle, Hi, how are you going there? Good?

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Speaker 9: Britney Spears? I did it again and then probably followed

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Speaker 2: Fair enough they have the full set. Yeah, it's still

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Speaker 2: They're a bit scratch, that's all right. They probably got

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Speaker 2: Thanks Michelle Bye, A little bit different to your Hendrix.

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Speaker 3: Yes it was, I said, compilation, I met greatest hits

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Speaker 3: and thank you Jake and Inger would have make me

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Speaker 2: It was had cred.

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Speaker 3: It may not have been that semi cred. I mean

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Speaker 3: it should have been an album. It may not have

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Speaker 2: It was Hendrix.

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Speaker 3: Okay, we got there in the end. I played Woodstock,

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Speaker 3: don't judge me. I also bought all the Tour of Duty.

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Speaker 2: Nothing wrong with that. That were great, Nothing wrong.

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Speaker 3: I got my education into that era of music from

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Speaker 3: So that's how I love CC now, I don't mind

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Speaker 3: admitting it. Dave in Mosman park on a text line

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Speaker 3: he was an early bloomer. He says, I remember my

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Speaker 3: first CD was Dire Straits Love over Gold. Mates were

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Speaker 3: working at Albert's High Fi. You as the demo to

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Speaker 4: Very much for the early adopters. Funny to say that

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Speaker 4: because yeah, Mirknofer's songs were just so magnificent.

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Speaker 3: Well yeah, I mean the clarity on the productions amazing, incredible.

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Speaker 3: Michael in Palmelia, Hello.

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Speaker 4: Welcome Michael here. You guys going were the CD party?

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Speaker 4: What's your story?

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Speaker 7: The first CD I ever got was Michael Jackson's Bad album, Yeah,

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Speaker 7: on then I wanted I really wanted that. Yeah. I

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Speaker 7: thought it was brilliant because you got you know, the CD.

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Speaker 7: He had no hissing there was, you know, it sounded

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Speaker 7: so clear and everything. I was really thrilled to get that.

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Speaker 7: I've been a huge GM Joints fan for ages, so

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Speaker 7: I got all. I got all the CD singles, everything collective. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: coming out? When you're coming out? And then you know,

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Speaker 7: they actually sent me one of those you know, like

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Speaker 7: me from the Eastern States History album. You know that

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Speaker 7: Then you was a huge fan.

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Speaker 4: That's awesome kidding, So they recognize you're a super fan,

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Speaker 7: Yeah. On top of that, I used to win I

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Speaker 7: a lot of CDs off a radio station. I knew

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Speaker 7: worked in a record shop. I take the CDs that

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Speaker 7: I didn't want, and they give me credit for whatever

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Speaker 7: they say, well, what you can exchange it for whatever

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Speaker 7: you need?

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Speaker 3: A copy of Bad Thank you? Michael Sayer, Michael too many.

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Speaker 4: Michael Michael and Michael Fan What if you're changing by

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Speaker 3: Do you remember how we used to get said c

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you about to tell me something naughty. They had

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Speaker 4: I said, promotional or DJ copies some.

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Speaker 2: Of the second air places of pay. Well, are you

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Speaker 3: No, I might have known someone who might have.

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Speaker 2: That's all names, one names, nothing to see. I think

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Speaker 2: I played a house off doing that. It's a very

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Speaker 4: Had a couple of copies that one down at Clemont

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Speaker 4: and that's the one near the Hungry Jackson's.

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Speaker 2: Funny when you do that. Until he caught on that

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Speaker 3: Blair In Willison says his first CD was Boom Boom,

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Speaker 3: Shake the Room by will Smith and j DJ Jeff

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Speaker 3: and David, and Waki says our first family CD was

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Speaker 2: Dad, that's a dead thing. That is such a dad thing.

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Speaker 2: That's a classic, such a dad.

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Speaker 4: About David who said that War of the World's just

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Speaker 4: the fact that was his first CD. Jeffes War of

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Speaker 4: the Worlds makes him feel old, but he didn't buy

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Speaker 4: it until eighty three.

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Speaker 2: I think it came back a fair time before that.

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Speaker 2: But it's a classic. The old titles came out on

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Speaker 2: it old it's still so good.

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Speaker 3: Ken In Banksy Grove, Hello, Ken, there you go? Good?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: Good?

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Speaker 2: What's is CD story?

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Speaker 6: Bud Well.

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Speaker 1: The first one I could actually remember buying was in

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Speaker 1: eighty nine was skid Row's self titled first album, Oh Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and which I just like every.

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Speaker 7: Track on it.

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Speaker 1: It just blew me away when I heard Sebastians by.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but he's a really weird thing.

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Speaker 1: I hadn't actually heard them whatsoever before I bought it.

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Speaker 1: There was a rock magazine called Hot Metal Yes, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: which you may remember.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I used to.

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Speaker 1: I used to get that avidly every time it came out,

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Speaker 1: and there was a review in there for that, and

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Speaker 1: then just solely off that review, I bought it.

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Speaker 2: Ah yeah, that's pretty good going. That was at that time.

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Speaker 4: There are a lot of bands coming out of the

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Speaker 1: nine I was I discovered a plan that can be

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Pink Floyd A little visit to Woodstock.

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Speaker 2: Isn't it amazing? What hope we can do.

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Speaker 1: I got all them on CD, and then I used

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Speaker 1: to go to a record store all the time Middland music.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 1: A couple of years. A couple of years later, and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah there, yeah.

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Speaker 1: And yeah. Well, the lady who worked there actually burned

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Speaker 1: me a copy of this Nightmare their first, their first or.

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Speaker 2: Be oh wow, that's good going.

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Speaker 4: She wasn't mental, of course, but she did no no now, yeah, I.

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Speaker 1: Think she might, but it wasn't big enough on the signals.

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Speaker 2: Read the signals pape. She's burning your stuff exactly, I mean, hullover,

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Speaker 2: don't go now exactly, go now. Oh yeah, they were huge.

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Speaker 3: The rat Cat was also.

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Speaker 3: He was a very beautiful boy. Ross says, I have

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Speaker 3: Oh really nineteen eighty Wow. I wonder how soon it

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Speaker 4: It came welltily before, unless that was just the date

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Speaker 4: But the tech was around there, as we heard in

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Speaker 4: the sixties. Yeah, Daniel in Wanneroo. What's your CD story?

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Speaker 8: Good morning, go on one shill crazy. Yeah, I want

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Speaker 8: get to what it still works, but I had to

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Speaker 8: go to Ballei when I was seven by CD warpman

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well I love it. Great story, Daniel, that's great right. Thanks.

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Speaker 2: It's unreal, isn't it.

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Speaker 4: How many people won things through the radio station as well,

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Speaker 4: like Mike who sent us the text as well, and

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Speaker 4: he said that he got the he remembers getting our

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Speaker 2: It's pretty cute. More Czy, more Lisa, More podcast soon, Lisa.

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Speaker 4: A lot has changed over the last few years in

445
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Speaker 4: the Waffle the w A footy, especially when it comes

446
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Speaker 4: to home grounds. Yeah, as you know, you and I

447
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,679
Speaker 4: grew up going and supporting our beloved teams.

448
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Speaker 2: You East Perth at Perth Oval, Yeah, me West Perth

449
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Speaker 2: at Leedable. I drive past.

450
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Speaker 3: Perth Over every day on my way home.

451
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Speaker 2: Whatever it's called these days.

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Speaker 4: Ahbf something what Yeah, yeah, And the weird thing for

453
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Speaker 4: me is obviously being at West Perthy. We're at joodle

454
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Speaker 4: Up and you guys have got our home ground. Yeah,

455
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Speaker 4: you guys have got our home ground which is now

456
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Speaker 4: your home ground at Leadable, which you share with SUBI,

457
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Speaker 4: the Suireak guy. It's change, we know that, Yeah, but

458
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Speaker 4: imagine being homeless, which is a bit like the East

459
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Speaker 4: Round East Foota Club right now. It's a little bit

460
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Speaker 4: bizarre because Easter from Mantle Football Club. Now, of course,

461
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Speaker 4: the Sharks have yet to return to their newly redeveloped home,

462
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Speaker 4: despite more than thirty two million bucks being spent.

463
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Speaker 2: Oh that's a lot.

464
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Speaker 4: That's a great upgrade for a serving ground, isn't it. Yeah,

465
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Speaker 4: the upgrades have been completed and of course there's apparently finished.

466
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Speaker 4: Earlier this year, the club in the town of East

467
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Speaker 4: from Handle have been unable to reach a lease agreement

468
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Speaker 4: enabling the Sharks to return, and there have been a

469
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Speaker 4: few sticking points in the deal and some are a

470
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Speaker 4: little bit od it so an insider claims that counselors

471
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Speaker 4: didn't we go, they didn't want the name of Easter

472
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Speaker 4: from Mantle is synonymous with football in Western Australia. But

473
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Speaker 4: they used to be Old Easts, but in recent years,

474
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Speaker 4: of course, for many years now, they've been.

475
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Speaker 2: The Sharks for many years.

476
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Speaker 4: Apparently some counselors didn't want the shark's logo displayed at

477
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Speaker 4: the facility because it was seen as being confronting for

478
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Speaker 4: those in the nearby playground.

479
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Speaker 3: Oh, I'd give me stry.

480
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Speaker 2: So the kids on the swings are going to be

481
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Speaker 2: scared of a shark. It's not a real shark. It's

482
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Speaker 2: scared of a logo. It's a logo.

483
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Speaker 4: So according to the West they confirmed the decision led

484
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Speaker 4: to the state government. The state government had to intervene

485
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Speaker 4: and help negotiations and shut down that element of it.

486
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Speaker 2: Now there is more.

487
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Speaker 4: There are other things that include fencing at the ground

488
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Speaker 4: and stuff like that, and these are things that are

489
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Speaker 4: you know, the sharks are going this is going to

490
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Speaker 4: cost us a lot of money.

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Speaker 2: We're a waffle club. They haven't got millions of dollars.

492
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Speaker 4: And some of their hold ups in the delays will

493
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Speaker 4: cause a lot of issues with finances, which have happened

494
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Speaker 4: already for this se of this delay of return under

495
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Speaker 4: absolutely one of those as the town said it didn't

496
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Speaker 4: want a permanent fence around the East Romantal Community Park.

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Speaker 2: They wanted the club's going to make you feel hemmed

498
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Speaker 2: in somehow.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they wanted the club to pay for temporary fencing,

500
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Speaker 4: which it costs a poultice for the quary fencing. You're

501
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Speaker 4: getting fifteen hundred people to game, or even less, you

502
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Speaker 4: know that you haven't got the money.

503
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Speaker 2: To do that. It is quite what was the problem

504
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Speaker 2: with a fence now?

505
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Speaker 4: Maybe because they want the public to walk in, because

506
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Speaker 4: a lot of these grounds are happening, so the public

507
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Speaker 4: can walk in and use the.

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Speaker 2: Facilitary out of a gate. Yeah, that's easy to do.

509
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Speaker 3: That's worked for us growing up for.

510
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Speaker 4: Least from Lost to Love and Revenue and then on

511
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Speaker 4: Sunday they rubbs salt into the sharks wounds lease. Last

512
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Speaker 4: year's Waffle premiers were forced to play their home elimination

513
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Speaker 4: final at Clermont, so they played the Tigers at Clermont overall,

514
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Speaker 4: and the Sharks lost.

515
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Speaker 3: Tigers can be pretty scary.

516
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Speaker 4: Can be scary just trying to get kids away from

517
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Speaker 4: the logos.

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Speaker 6: I know.

519
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Speaker 2: It is quite weird. Now.

520
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Speaker 4: Apparently the town, some of the councilors are understood to

521
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Speaker 4: wanted to vote against the logo. The town itself said

522
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Speaker 4: they backed the signage, but if your counselors weren't happy

523
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Speaker 4: with it and said the Sharks might be a bit scary.

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Speaker 3: Oh, for God's sake, I can't even I can't even

525
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Speaker 3: humor this nonsense. I tried.

526
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Speaker 4: Okay, so your beloved Royals because my team West Perth

527
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Speaker 4: are out?

528
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Speaker 2: Is that okay? Can we say Royals are a elitist?

529
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Speaker 4: Actually for the kiddies, what about those who aren't monarchists?

530
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Speaker 4: Are the Royals play Swans at Sullivan Logistics Stadium, which

531
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Speaker 4: I believe is leadable Oval, okay on the weekend that

532
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Speaker 4: gomes on Saturday.

533
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Speaker 2: This is the finals, of course.

534
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Speaker 4: And Peels under play Clamont at Lame Group Stadium which

535
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Speaker 4: I looked up which is down and androuey Son Peel

536
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Speaker 4: look at the home final as well. So that's what's

537
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Speaker 4: going in the waffle getting along in supporting them, yell

538
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Speaker 4: for your team.

539
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Speaker 3: I am proper exhausted from that load of nonsense.

540
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Speaker 2: You feel like you've been attack bo shark? Well, is

541
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Speaker 2: it really disaster?

542
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Speaker 4: I want to be attack shark, even if it was

543
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Speaker 4: one counselor thought about I was that was really strange.

544
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Speaker 2: They're just looking for something to say. There's got to

545
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Speaker 2: be more to it.

546
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Speaker 3: Frustrated hall monitors from school on these councils saying anything.

547
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Speaker 3: Whenever Leone Moriarty puts out a new book, I always

548
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 3: promise myself I am going to make it last. I'm

549
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 3: going to savor it a bit. I'm not going to

550
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 3: scoff it down in a day. I started here one

551
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,919
Speaker 3: moment on Saturday, and I am proud to say that

552
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 3: I've still got just under one hundred pages to go,

553
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 3: so I'm making progress, pretty good going. Leone Moriarty is

554
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 3: joining us now.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm welcome.

556
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 9: Good morning, Thank you so much.

557
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 2: It's so lovely to have you with us about.

558
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Speaker 3: The release of the new book here one moment, and

559
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 3: I say, I might be overthinking it, Leone, but I

560
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,439
Speaker 3: always think that when I get, you know, one of

561
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 3: your books, I am home a big fan. Let's just

562
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 3: get that out there. And I read it so quickly

563
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,640
Speaker 3: that somehow I'm not doing.

564
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 2: Justice to you.

565
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 3: You've toiled and you've worked, and you've blood, sweat and

566
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 3: tearsed over this book for ages, and I can just

567
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 3: do it in a night, do you know what I mean.

568
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 9: I know, I know. I'm a reader like that myself.

569
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Speaker 9: I'm a very greedy reader. I would prefer my readers

570
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 9: to their time, because it's strange when they say it's

571
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Speaker 9: all done.

572
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Well I am a bit this time. I

573
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 3: feel like I have made some progress. So's the new

574
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 3: book here one moment. It raises questions about mortality. Would

575
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 3: you want to know when and how you're going to die?

576
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 3: And if you do know, would you try to change

577
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Speaker 3: the outcome?

578
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 9: Yes, that's right. So it's about a lady on a plane,

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Speaker 9: a normal domestic flight from Hobart to Sydney, and a

580
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Speaker 9: woman stands up and she starts pointing at each of

581
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Speaker 9: the passengers and telling each of them exactly how and

582
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Speaker 9: when they're going to die, and a lot of passengers

583
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Speaker 9: don't take too much notice, and then everybody gets off

584
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Speaker 9: the plane. My American publisher wanted to make that clear,

585
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 9: it's not about a plane accident. And and then most

586
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 9: people sort of put it out of their minds. But

587
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Speaker 9: then the first prediction comes.

588
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 4: True, leam, where do you get these ideas from? Where's

589
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 4: the inspiration for that?

590
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 2: One? Just plucked from somewhere?

591
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Speaker 9: So I was actually on a flight myself, on the

592
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 9: exact same flight out of Hobart, and the youful thought

593
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Speaker 9: came into my head. Every persenger on the pave I

594
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 9: would one day die, and so I was it is

595
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Speaker 9: true not I think we tried to pretend it's not happening.

596
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 9: And I was looking at all the passengers, and I

597
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 9: was thinking, will you be the person who makes it

598
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Speaker 9: to one hundred and dies specifully in the sleep, or

599
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Speaker 9: will you be the person whose life is unexpectedly cut short?

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Speaker 9: And then I thought, imagine if that information was available

601
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Speaker 9: right now, right and what.

602
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Speaker 6: Would we do?

603
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 3: Because a few people do get you know, they think

604
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,719
Speaker 3: they win the Lady the Death Lady Jackpot because they

605
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 3: get told they're going to live to ninety two or something.

606
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 3: But for a few of them, it's not too far

607
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Speaker 3: in the immediate future. So a few characters do die

608
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Speaker 3: here one moment. Have you ever named a character you've

609
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Speaker 3: killed off in a book after someone you didn't like

610
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Speaker 3: in real life?

611
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Speaker 9: No, I haven't. I think that would be too obvious.

612
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 9: I might take a little attribute of theirs and then

613
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Speaker 9: happily two of them off.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, fair enough, Helen, And I've always been fascinated with

615
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Speaker 4: someone like yourself, Like Lisa, you're reader a hell of

616
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Speaker 4: a lot, and I don't know where you find the time,

617
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Speaker 4: but we talk to a lot of musicians who do

618
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Speaker 4: fear that they've been influenced by other people's use of

619
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Speaker 4: the chords. Do you sometimes write it about a character

620
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Speaker 4: or a paragraph or a chapter and ago, well, that's

621
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Speaker 4: a bit too familiar.

622
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Speaker 2: I'll change that a bit.

623
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Speaker 9: Yes, I always worry if it comes too easily.

624
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Speaker 6: Right.

625
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Speaker 9: So if I think, especially if I think of a

626
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Speaker 9: plot and it all falls into place two perfect, then

627
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Speaker 9: I assume that I took it from an episode of

628
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Speaker 9: Law and Order, I have to throw it away. And

629
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Speaker 9: I've heard, as you said, musicians and also comedians, I

630
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 9: think if they think of a joke too easily, they

631
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 9: think maybe I'm taking that from somewhere.

632
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 3: Well, Lauren, to get most of their inspiration from, you know,

633
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 3: TV news and so on, it's all got to.

634
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 2: Come from somewhere.

635
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 9: You're right exactly.

636
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Speaker 3: I know you've been on a grueling promotional tour and

637
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 3: so you might not get too much time to read

638
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 3: things yourself.

639
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 2: But have you read anything lately that you would recommend.

640
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 9: I'm reading the latest Kate Atkinson. I can't. I can't

641
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 9: never remember the title. But it's a funny detective series

642
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 9: and I'm loving that. Okay, right, okact I should be

643
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 9: promoting my sister, My sister Nicola.

644
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 2: Oh yes, Nicholas, listening to the podcast after I not

645
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Speaker 2: happy with this.

646
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 3: Next Sunday lunch, She's gonna have an angry look on

647
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Speaker 3: her face and you show.

648
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Speaker 9: Up, I know, Nicholas, get.

649
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

650
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Speaker 4: I'm with your incredible success and of course being picked

651
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 4: up and made into productions. Do you sometimes have that

652
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 4: in mind whilst you're writing or do you just put

653
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 4: that way out and stick with.

654
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Speaker 2: The old formula.

655
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Speaker 9: Yeah, I honestly don't. I'm really not thinking.

656
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Speaker 5: So.

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Speaker 9: The main character in this books called Cherry, and she's

658
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 9: my Cherry at the moment. She's not anybody else.

659
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 2: This is your baby.

660
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but if we may, we must talk for a

661
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 3: moment about Big Little Eyes.

662
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 2: It came out ten years ago. Did you when you

663
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Speaker 2: put that book.

664
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Speaker 3: Out ten years ago, in your wildest dreams, did you

665
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Speaker 3: think that we would now be two series in with

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Speaker 3: a cast that includes Meryl Street, and with the audience

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Speaker 3: baying for a third season, baying.

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Speaker 9: For not in my wildest dreams. No, even when mild

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Speaker 9: said when I first met her, and I said, I know,

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Speaker 9: not to get too excited until the day they start shooting.

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Speaker 9: That's what authors always say. Yeah, And she said, no, no,

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Speaker 9: if we optionate get excited, But I still didn't until

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Speaker 9: they started shooting. But I don't think any of them

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Speaker 9: would have imagined the success either. So it's been fantastic.

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Speaker 3: It has been fantastic, And do you know it? Can

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Speaker 3: you confirm that there is a third series?

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Speaker 9: All I can confirm is that I am definitely writing

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Speaker 9: a sequel to my own book, Little Life, because I

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Speaker 9: would tend to go when the children were little in

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Speaker 9: the book, and also in real life, my children were little,

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Speaker 9: and so now my teenagers. So I'm writing a book

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Speaker 9: with the dealing with all the teen issues.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you do act as an executive producer on the series,

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Speaker 3: don't you.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, but it's an honorary. There's something that they say

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Speaker 9: to you to be nice. I'm not sure. I'm not

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Speaker 9: sure what it actually means.

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Speaker 2: The credit.

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Speaker 9: I'm certainly not out there throwing my way.

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Speaker 4: And I know Lisa very well, and I could tell

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Speaker 4: that she was really looking forward to She was tough

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Speaker 4: that we were going to be talking to you as

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Speaker 4: I was as well being a huge fan. She was

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Speaker 4: excited and a little bit nervous. When was the last

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Speaker 4: time you felt nervous about meeting someone that was working

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Speaker 4: on your work at an actress or an actor?

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Speaker 9: It would have to be Meryl Streep? Sure, Yeah, which

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Speaker 9: I feel like was was a big star struck moment.

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Speaker 2: I mean, what do you say. That's the thing is

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Speaker 2: that Meryl Streep?

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Speaker 9: Well, I got I got in my head. I'd heard

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Speaker 9: that she had had her first grandchild. Yeah, said I

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Speaker 9: was asking about her grandchild, and she actually showed me

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Speaker 9: some photos. Yeah, But obviously I was so intense in

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Speaker 9: my interest about it that finally she said to me,

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Speaker 9: do you have a first grandchild yourself? Obviously acting a

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Speaker 9: little bizarrely, but she I suspects she's used to it.

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Speaker 2: So what did you do today?

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Speaker 3: I just hung out with Merrill's grandmother's stories. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's a stella cast all around, really, you know, apart

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Speaker 3: from Nicole and Reese Laura Dern It's just incredible. And

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Speaker 3: by the way, it has the best two soundtracks that

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Speaker 3: that I've ever heard.

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Speaker 2: Well, here one moment might.

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Speaker 3: Be the next one to get because the big, Big

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Speaker 3: Little Lives. Also Nine Perfect Strangers and Apples Never Fall

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Speaker 3: have all been made, so this one might be in

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Speaker 3: the future.

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Speaker 9: And the last anniversary my second novel has been the

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Speaker 9: finished filming, and that one's an.

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Speaker 6: All Australian car Beautiful.

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Speaker 9: I am filmed in the Australia.

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Speaker 3: I heard that you were insisting at be filmed in

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Speaker 3: Australia because it is, you know, quite off. The setting

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Speaker 3: is quite often another character in a story.

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Speaker 9: Yes, yeah, and I don't think settings normally my strength,

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Speaker 9: but that one was set on the Hawksbury River and

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Speaker 9: it just felt too Australia for anywhere.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I had to be there. I'm glad you put

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Speaker 2: your own.

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Speaker 3: Yeah here, one moment is out now. Everyone just simply

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Speaker 3: must do themselves a favor. Even if this is your

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Speaker 3: first one, you will go back and start at the beginning.

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Speaker 3: Let me guarantee you. It's been absolutely lovely talking to you, wonderful.

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Speaker 9: Thank you so much, really lovely talking to you too,

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Speaker 9: Thank you bye.

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Speaker 2: Love them Yeah, okay, you can breeve.

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Speaker 4: Isn't it awesome when you talk to someone that you've

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Speaker 4: so you know you so you admire them so much

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Speaker 4: we've had it over the years.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'd love to see your reaction.

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Speaker 3: I mean all everyone knows I love to read, and

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Speaker 3: she is just.

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Speaker 2: So goodeous and talk about a hot spell. That in

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Speaker 2: a career right now and that's awesome. So going for

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Speaker 2: a while.

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Speaker 4: As I just heard for the last six minutes, so

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Speaker 4: humble as well.

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Speaker 3: Everyone wants to make her stuff to TV shows.

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Speaker 10: How can you not be thinking about that when you're

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Speaker 10: write more Clesy, more Lisa, more podcasts soon, the Sure

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Speaker 10: Report on ninety six AIRFM.

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Speaker 3: The Joker sequel, Joker Foliadeu has had its premiere at

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Speaker 3: the Venice Film First of all, the first reviews are

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Speaker 3: in and critics appear to be divided between those who found

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Speaker 3: it ingenious or beguiling and others who found it dull

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Speaker 3: and laborious. One thing they seem to agree on is

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Speaker 3: that Lady Gaga is, to quote one reviewer, criminally underused.

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Speaker 3: The story picks up with Arthur Wak in Phoenix's Joker,

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Speaker 3: waiting for his murder trial at the State Mental hospital,

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Speaker 3: where he meets Gaga's Harley Quinn.

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Speaker 9: This is a very disturbed individual.

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Speaker 2: He's nine seven, He's perfect.

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Speaker 3: The reviewers all agree it feels long at two hours

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Speaker 3: and eighteen minutes. A lot of it'sat maniacal laughing too,

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Speaker 3: and most would have preferred more action, less singing. We

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Speaker 3: can see for ourselves when it's released next month on

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Speaker 3: October third. And for those playing the Film Festival Standing

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Speaker 3: ovation game, he got eleven minutes, less than seventy seventeen

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Speaker 3: minutes Julianne Moore's new movie The Room next Door got yesterday.

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Speaker 2: But still a lot.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I think Juliane would prefer eleven eleven minutes.

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Speaker 3: Brian May has suffered a minor stroke that briefly left

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Speaker 3: him unable to move his left arm, but the Queen

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Speaker 3: Legend says, don't panic.

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Speaker 2: The good news is I can still play guitar.

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Speaker 3: He says he's making a full recovery while observing doctor's

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Speaker 3: orders to do nothing but rest. Robbie Williams seems to

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Speaker 3: be going the right way about reigniting him ancient feud

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Speaker 3: with Noel Gallagher amid the Oasis re union news goss

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Speaker 3: He is he's just told a podcaster that the shows

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Speaker 3: are going to be incredible. He said, Liam Gallagher reading

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Speaker 3: his phone on the toilet would be more charismatic and intriguing.

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Speaker 3: The ninety nine point nine percent of the world's population

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Speaker 3: at their most enigmatic. All he has to do is

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Speaker 3: stand there and sing for the audience to be guaranteed

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Speaker 3: their money's worth. He then added, Noel will be there too, subtle,

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Speaker 3: that's funny and Eagles singer Don Henley he's reissuing his

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Speaker 3: second solo album, Building the Perfect Beast, in celebration of

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Speaker 3: its fortieth anniversary, coming out October four. The two LP

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Speaker 3: set features all remastered tracks. Boys of Summer was such

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Speaker 3: a huge hit, particularly in Perth. Great sound and of

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Speaker 3: course at one I'm a Grammy for Best Male Rock

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Speaker 3: Vocal Performance.

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Speaker 2: Ah awesome. Grett Flick with Ben Oshe, Hello, good morning guys.

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Speaker 2: Much now.

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Speaker 5: It's always a challenging thing to do a sequel many

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Speaker 5: many years after the original. In this case, we're talking

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Speaker 5: about Beetlejuice. Beetlejuice, the sequel to Beetlejuice. I've said it

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Speaker 5: three times, which came out back in nineteen eighty eight.

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Speaker 5: Someone else can do the maths. It was a long

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Speaker 5: time ago, and we saw this thing happened recently with

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Speaker 5: Maverick and Top Gun Maverick, which turned out pretty good.

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Speaker 5: Twisters and Twister long awaited sequel, turned out okay as well.

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Speaker 5: Usually they don't work out okay, too much water has

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Speaker 5: gone under the bridge.

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Speaker 2: And usually what.

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Speaker 5: Happens is the director and the writers go, well, everybody

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Speaker 5: wants a return to the original. It becomes about, you know,

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Speaker 5: sort of a fan service and legacy and how can

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Speaker 5: we just basically recycle all the same jokes and all

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Speaker 5: the same characters, and it probably doesn't really offer very

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Speaker 5: much new. But with Tim Burton directing the sequel as

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Speaker 5: he did the original, you hope for more, right, because

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Speaker 5: he is a guy with a very clear aesthetic, a

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Speaker 5: clear vision for how he makes his films. To be honest,

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Speaker 5: in recent years those films haven't been very good. Like

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Speaker 5: I think you probably go back fifteen years to find

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Speaker 5: the last Tim Burton movie that you would actually say

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Speaker 5: that's a good movie.

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Speaker 2: Tim Burton classic, Tim Burton classic.

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Speaker 5: He kind of became, you know, a caricature of himself

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Speaker 5: and just became too tim burton ish, I think in

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Speaker 5: recent years. And you know, obviously had did a lot

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Speaker 5: of films with Johnny Depp along the way, which were

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Speaker 5: you know, probably didn't help him very much. But now

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Speaker 5: he's reunited with the great Michael Keaton, who's reprising the

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Speaker 5: character of Beetlejuice.

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Speaker 2: And for people who don't remember.

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Speaker 5: He's the ghost with the most he's a ghost in

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Speaker 5: the afterlife who's a bio exorcist. You can summon him

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Speaker 5: by saying his name three times and he'll come and

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Speaker 5: deal with whatever ghosts you have haunting your house. And

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Speaker 5: in the original film, you know you had a young

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Speaker 5: Winona Rider and her parents, Catherine O'Hara, the Great Catherine

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Speaker 5: O'Hara and Jeffrey Jones, the principle from Ferris Bueller were

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Speaker 5: her parents, and they were haunted by Gina Davis and

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Speaker 5: Alec Baldwin, two recently deceased couple who didn't want these

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Speaker 5: newbies in their house. Beatlejuice comes along, but you summon him,

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Speaker 5: you get more trouble, and you know what it's worth,

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Speaker 5: because he was a very politically incorrect ghost who wanted

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Speaker 5: nothing more but to marry that teenage Winona Rider. Which

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Speaker 5: I watched it again recently. That aspect has an aged

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Speaker 5: particularly well, I will say, but it's it's a classic,

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Speaker 5: like it is a wild, wild film, like you look

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Speaker 5: back at it, you go, what was Tim Burton smoking

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Speaker 5: when he made this? But it was it's a cracker.

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Speaker 5: And in the new film, Winona Rider's character, Lydia Deeks

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Speaker 5: has because she can see ghosts, she's gone on to

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Speaker 5: become a celebrity spirit medium and so she's got her

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Speaker 5: own TV show called ghost House and she has people

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Speaker 5: on talking about ghosts. But when her dad dies, so

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Speaker 5: Richard Deeks was played by Jeffrey Jones, who is not

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Speaker 5: in this film because he got into some unsavory child

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Speaker 5: exploitation material charges. And so Tim Burton in the first

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Speaker 5: scene basically depicts him in claymation getting bitten in half

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Speaker 5: by a shark.

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Speaker 2: Took care of that. Took care and took care of that.

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Speaker 5: And so that death prompts Lydia and her mum, Delia

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Speaker 5: to go back to the original house from the first

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Speaker 5: movie where they're going to have the funeral, and of course,

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Speaker 5: you know, they're going back into their own memories, into

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Speaker 5: Lydia's childhood, and of course Beetlejuice was a big part

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Speaker 5: of that. So that's how he kind of ends up

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Speaker 5: back on the scene. But this time there is a

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Speaker 5: new teen daughter who's got a bit of an attitude

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Speaker 5: played by Jenna or Taga from Wednesday, who is a

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Speaker 5: writer's daughter, Lydia's daughter, and she brings a really great

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Speaker 5: fresh vibe to the film. I think she's a really

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Speaker 5: fantastic young actor. And of course, you know, Beetlejuice gets

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Speaker 5: involved and then it kind of goes off the rails

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Speaker 5: as you would expect. It does honor the original movie

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Speaker 5: really really nicely without going too far into only being

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Speaker 5: about that, so it does offer a new plot. They've

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Speaker 5: tried hard not to just lean into CG effects and

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Speaker 5: have done that kind of like you know, sort of

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Speaker 5: handmade claymation, old school vibe with the special effects, which

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Speaker 5: is really nice. But this is really about Michael Keaton.

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Speaker 5: He is just so fantastic. Some great and new additions

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Speaker 5: to the cast as well. Monica Balucci plays Michael Keaton's

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Speaker 5: ex wife from the Afterlife, who wants revenge on Beetlejuice,

882
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 5: which is pretty funny as a soul sucking witch. And

883
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:47,280
Speaker 5: you've got Willem Dafoe who's also a ghost in the Afterlife.

884
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 5: He's a sort of a ghost police detective because he

885
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 5: was a B movie actor in real life who died

886
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 5: doing his own stunts. He's playing a character called Jack Hardballer.

887
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 5: There's stuff like that which is really really fun. And

888
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 5: justin throw is Winona Ryder's sort of boyfriend in the film,

889
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 5: who's just this, you know, sort of you know, sort

890
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 5: of new age hippie, dippy producer of her TV show,

891
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 5: but maybe he's got a bit of a nefarious intent

892
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 5: behind the scenes. So there's a bit going on in

893
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 5: this film. I would say overall it probably doesn't have

894
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 5: that same classic feel that the original did. Like you

895
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 5: watch that and you go, do you know what people

896
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 5: are going to be talking about beetle Juice for the

897
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 5: next thirty years. You see someone wearing a black and

898
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 5: white striped jacket, you go, who he's supposed to be?

899
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 5: Beetle Juice. I don't think they're going to be talking

900
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,919
Speaker 5: about the sequel in the same way in thirty years time.

901
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 5: In some ways it improves, but overall you'd have to

902
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 5: say it's probably a slight step down from the original,

903
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 5: but that's extremely high bar. I think overall Tim Burton's

904
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 5: done a pretty good job.

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00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,240
Speaker 3: All right, Well, how many beetle Juices are you giving?

906
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 2: I'm going to give it three and a half. Okay, enough,

907
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 2: very solid, go watch it. An easy thing to do

908
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 2: forty years later.

909
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 3: Absolutely your thoughts on please on film festival standing ovations.

910
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 3: This new movie got seventeen minutes. Yesterday's out of control.

911
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 3: You even imagine standing there clapping, yes sevnte.

912
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 5: It sounds crazy, right, But the way they do it

913
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 5: is they have the stars coming on one at a time,

914
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 5: going on here comes in this case till the swinter

915
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 5: untill the Swinton comes out, and she's walking from one

916
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 5: side of the stage to the other show minute half,

917
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 5: so it would feel like you're clapping different things. You're

918
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 5: not one clapping, but it is getting out of control.

919
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 5: And then people said that particular movie maybe wasn't that

920
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 5: good anyway. So there you go and The Joker. The

921
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 5: Joker got eleven got eleven minutes, and us in the media,

922
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 5: we're judging it. We're going on eleven minutes.

923
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,399
Speaker 2: Considerably less than the motible if you want to get

924
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 2: four minutes.

925
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 4: So the movie companies will be planting really good clappers.

926
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 5: Exactly clappers to stunt clap with your hands and being

927
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 5: nearly falling off. You couldn't just be an amateur going

928
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 5: on to be a professional.

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Speaker 4: Oh, thank you, thank you guys, good to say, Crazy

930
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 4: and Lisa

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Speaker 2: Ninety six, AVEM