1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: All right, cheeky one's heads up, Saucy Secrets is about 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: to start. 3 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 2: Now. 4 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: This isn't your average radio chat. It has adult themes 5 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 1: and some sexual references. We're diving into real confessions, spicy fantasies, 6 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:16,959 Speaker 1: and some real jaw dropping stories. So if you're easily shocked, 7 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: maybe go find a gardening show. But if you're ready 8 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: for some fun, a little scandal and absolutely no judgment, 9 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: you're in the right safe place. Real people, real confessions. 10 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: It's Saucy Secrets. I'm kiss Saucy Secrets. Now. 11 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 2: If you thought that radio was a little bland, a 12 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 2: little vanilla, a little PC boyo boy oh boy, is 13 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 2: that about to change. Welcome to the first ever episode 14 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 2: of Saucy Secrets with Sex Relationship dating columnists Jenna Hockey. 15 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'm so excited. I haven't slept all week. 16 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: This is I don't think people are prepared, but this 17 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: is an open, free, non judge mental place, unless we 18 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: decide to judge you. 19 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: I mean, I've looked at the run sheet and I 20 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 2: know what we're doing on the show, and even I'm 21 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 2: not prepared. Got to by the way, before we start 22 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 2: things off, got to say a big thank you to 23 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 2: the legends at Juju, because without them, this show does 24 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 2: not happen. 25 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 3: And just so happens. I'm going to put this on camera. 26 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 2: This is on YouTube as well, by the way, so 27 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 2: you can either listen to us on kiss watch it 28 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 2: on YouTube thanks to the legends at Juju. At the 29 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 2: end of the show, we are giving away a we 30 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 2: Vibe wand two. 31 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've used this all week. I can personally vouch 32 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: or how good it is. 33 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 3: Are you suggesting that I give it a crack before 34 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 3: the end of the show. 35 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 2: I think it's your right as a co host say 36 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 2: goodbye to boring nights. The we Vibe one brings thunderous 37 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 2: betshaking pleasure. Get your oh face ready at Juju. That's 38 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 2: joujou dot com dot au. 39 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 3: Now, well, you've got a massive first show. 40 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 2: Of saucy secrets coming up, including one of Okay, so 41 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 2: you're a you're a relationship dating a sex columnist for 42 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 2: many publications all around the world, and that involves you 43 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 2: going on some rather interesting and somewhat sourcy assignments. 44 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: I have the best job in the world. Yeah, basically 45 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: all the things that I got in trouble for at school, 46 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: don't talk about sex. I went to a Catholic. 47 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 3: Didn't pay for it? 48 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 2: Now I get paid for it? Did The Chili Pepers 49 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 2: released a song called Catholic School Girls Rule apparently? 50 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it checks out, it checks out? 51 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah. 52 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 2: One of the many incredible adventures that you've been on 53 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 2: recently an orgasm retreat I did. Yeah, what happens at 54 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 2: one of these retreats? I'm assuming one of the things 55 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 2: that's in the title will get to that inter second. 56 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 2: But how do you become a sex columnist? And who 57 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 2: is Janat Hawking? We're going to do that next. We 58 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 2: thought we'd sort of kick off the show by sort 59 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 2: of introducing you, getting to know you and understanding what 60 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 2: it is and how does one become a dating and 61 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 2: sex commonists? So I guess getting to know you to 62 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 2: know bout you. So what I've done, I've come up 63 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,239 Speaker 2: with a list of questions and I'm just going to 64 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 2: fire them at you, one by one so we can understand. 65 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 3: Who is Jenna Hawking? What makes for tick? 66 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 2: And how did she end up in this weird and 67 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 2: wonderful world of sex and dating? 68 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: It's so fun? 69 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 4: All right? 70 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 3: Question number one, how did you become a sex colmness? 71 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: Okay, So I did study journalism in UNI, and then 72 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: I went off and went into TV and I was 73 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: a producer on The Bachelor get Away, World's Best Jobs 74 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: in the World, and then I was in radio and 75 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: I was dating this toxic toxic man, as you will 76 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: learn to discover, is my type. 77 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 4: And I said to. 78 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: Him, I was looking at all these articles go up 79 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: on news dot com. I was like, I could write 80 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: an article like that, and he was like, you could not. 81 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: Oh my god, how embarrassing. You could never get an 82 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: article up there. And my little brain went ding ding 83 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: ding ding ding. Well, now I have to. 84 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:53,839 Speaker 3: Get an article up there, really supportive guy. 85 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: So I was like, yoh yeah, here was the last 86 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: and so I was like, okay, what will get picked 87 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: up immediately? Like I need this up in the next 88 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: week just to prove a point. So I was like, 89 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: all right about my boobs. So I was graced with 90 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: a great set, Thank you mum, and I decided to 91 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: write this like a thousand words on why my boobs 92 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: can often get in the way. Okay, went viral, Yeah, 93 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: kicked off. They said, well, can we have some more articles? 94 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 3: I got you boobs or other things, like a lot of. 95 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 1: Them at the start were heavily based on my boobs. 96 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: I went for the low hanging fruit, and then I 97 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: started chronicling my dating life because obviously I kicked him 98 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 1: to the curve as soon as I could, and it 99 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: just went off from. 100 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 3: Their Have you ever had a walk of shame? 101 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 2: Because everyone's had a walk of shame, right, but a 102 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:47,799 Speaker 2: walk of shame so good it was actually worth telling 103 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 2: people about this. 104 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: One went on national TV. Do you remember the Today 105 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: Show would do live from the Low GI's. 106 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, crown plant come straight from the after party 107 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 2: to the Today Show set. 108 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: It was so fast, It's my favorite moment in TV. 109 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 1: So I had been at the logis and hooked up 110 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: with a Home and a Ways star. 111 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 3: Obviously shout to rama. 112 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: That would be so hot and it's not a hard no. 113 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 2: Rayma sliding to the Daktok. 114 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 1: But it was like some tragic home and Away guy. 115 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: And the next morning I was like, oh god. My 116 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: hotel room was the opposite side of the foyer and 117 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,559 Speaker 1: all the Today Show was set up in the foyer 118 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: and there is a video my mom saw it talk 119 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: about timing of me walking in the background of the 120 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: Today Show set, holding my high heels, the ball gown 121 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 1: from the night before and Muscara down my face trying 122 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: to discreetly get back to my hotel room. 123 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 3: That's so grim, but so incredible. 124 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 2: Who is the most famous person that you have had 125 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 2: special cuddles with? 126 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: I have slept with semberj just Sig, Sammy B, Sammy B. 127 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 1: And it came about in the craziest way. So I 128 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: was at a bar in King's Cross with two girlfriends 129 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: and he walked in fresh off his court case from 130 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: his ex wife going through their divorce, and he was 131 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 1: with his lawyer, Brian, and he spotted me. And a 132 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: week before I wrote an article that said why I'll 133 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: never date football players again, and sure, it just happened 134 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: to come out at the same time that he was 135 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: going through a very high profile divorce where his wife 136 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 1: took him to town saying what a terrible guy he was. 137 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: Now he came into this bar I was in in 138 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: King's Cross, took one look at me and went you 139 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 1: And I was like, oh God, and he goes you 140 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: wrote that article and he really went angry at me. 141 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 1: And my gorgeous little friend Jesse was with me, and 142 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 1: she's irish and fiery, and she took him to town 143 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: and was like, you leave her alone. She's allowed to 144 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: write whatever she wants. He felt so bad, like this 145 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: little five foot Irish girl took Sam, who's like what 146 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: six three eight hundred feet to town. He was shocked 147 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 1: and I just stood behind her, going yeah. So then 148 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: he felt so bad. So then he got a tray 149 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: of shots and brought them to our table and he's like, 150 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: I feel really bad. I'm sorry, let's do shots. And 151 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: then it just took off from them. 152 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 3: So what's what's the worst date you've been on? 153 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 2: Because I would assume some of the horror stories of 154 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 2: what make the best articles, right. 155 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: The worst date was a guy. This was before I 156 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: started writing about my dating life. He met him at 157 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: a ball will making eyes. Decided we were madly in 158 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: love within thirty seconds of chatting. But then he got 159 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: really drunk. He was a surfer and decided to show 160 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: me his party trick was, which was to take his 161 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: front teeth out because the surfboard had smacked him in 162 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: the face. 163 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,559 Speaker 2: So he wasn't like ninety five years old and wearing 164 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 2: benches not. 165 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: Yet, okay, like a million extime maybe, but no. This 166 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: guy was like a young, hot guy. And then halfway 167 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: through the night he just took his teeth out and 168 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: was giving me this big gummy grin. I was like, oh, 169 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: you're just so. Then my friend and I kind of 170 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: tried to exit and sit at a different table. And 171 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: then at the end of night he saw us leaving 172 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: and he chased us out to the uber, pulled his 173 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: pants down and said, you don't want some of this. 174 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: I did not want some of this? 175 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 3: Who said chivalry is dead? Now? 176 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 2: I was going to ask, what's the one story you've 177 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 2: written that your mum. 178 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 3: Just cannot go near. But I'm guessing that's probably most of. 179 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: Them, right, all of them. Yeah, my mom says to me, 180 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: I'm so proud of you, but I will never read 181 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: your articles. And I think that's a fair call. My 182 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 1: brother has me blocked on inside. 183 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 2: I'm assuming them that neither your brother, your mother, or 184 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 2: any member of your family went anywhere near the article 185 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 2: that involves you going to an orgasm retreat in the 186 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 2: Californian desert. 187 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 1: No, but they were so proud. 188 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 3: Good well, mom and dad. 189 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 2: Brother, listen to something else for a second, because we're 190 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 2: going to talk about that next. Growing up, most of 191 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 2: us go on camps and excursions and things like that. 192 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 2: But you recently went on a very different and type 193 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 2: of camper retreat, an orgasm retreat. 194 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: You haven't been on one now, I highly recommend it. 195 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 1: So this came about because I was a columns for 196 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: the New York Post and we got wind of a 197 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: story about women spending fifteen thousand dollars to go into 198 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: the middle of the Californian desert to learn how to orgasm. Okay, 199 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: and I just got an email off my editor that 200 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: simply said, you're going, and I was like WHOA. A 201 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: week later, I was on a flight to La picked 202 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: up a higher car, drove out into the middle of 203 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:41,119 Speaker 1: the Californian desert and I was watching the houses slowly 204 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: disperse and the you know, doesert really open up? And 205 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: all I kept thinking was, well, this is where I 206 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: come to die, Like this is a bit sus So 207 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: eventually I found this ranch. It was beautiful, and I 208 00:09:55,360 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: arrived in Pamela the sexologist there she was when around 209 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: in lingerie and I was like, right, okay, just lean in. 210 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: You've come all this way cleaning, and she gathered all 211 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: the women around sixteen women. One man caught who's a 212 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: sexologist as well, and they basically said, all right, you've 213 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: all come here to learn. He had a really weird 214 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: way of putting it. They said how to It was 215 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: basically how to reach orgasm? Okay, and I was expecting, 216 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: really woo woo women like these women are spending fifteen 217 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: thousand dollars, so they were kind of Middle America rich housewives. 218 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 2: So let's backtrack just a second, because I want to 219 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 2: know what this place looks like, because I've got an 220 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 2: image in my head and it's something out of the 221 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 2: Fifty Shades of Gray movie, and it's a red room 222 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 2: with a giant felt couch and a wall of every 223 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 2: instrument on planet Earth? 224 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 3: What did it look like? 225 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 1: That's pretty spot on. There are different rooms, so there's 226 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: one on one rooms and they're set up like ones 227 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: a cowboy room with sexy cowboy wear and other ones 228 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 1: just full of like cheetahprint and they kind of like, 229 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: I don't know if you've ever been to a brothel. 230 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 3: No, okay, no, not my thing. 231 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: Well I have that, honest simonicas and they each have 232 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: different rooms with different themes. That's what this was like, 233 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: it is very sexy, but it's also in the middle 234 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: of the desert. It's very strange. 235 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 2: I would imagine once you spent a bit of time 236 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 2: with all of these women, you probably go, oh, no, wait, 237 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 2: they're relatively normal people, which probably relaxed everyone because, like 238 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 2: you said, they're not these woo woo crazy types that 239 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 2: are completely different from you. 240 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 1: What I found so interesting was a lot of them 241 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: were divorced, so they had come because they either hadn't 242 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:45,959 Speaker 1: had an orgasm before, they'd been married for twenty years 243 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: and didn't know what good sex was. Others like their 244 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: husbands had left them for younger women and they were 245 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: feeling a little bit insecure, and so they were like, well, 246 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: if we're going back into the dating world, we want 247 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 1: to be good at sex. And then there was some 248 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: sader cases of women who had been had sexual trauma 249 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: and they were there to learn how to enjoy sex again. 250 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 2: So not so much for some people searching for something. 251 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 2: A lot of it was reclaiming something or taking something 252 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 2: back that had been taken from it. 253 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, as soon as we all figured out, because we 254 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: had to go around in a circle and tell our 255 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: story of why we were there, and I was like, well, 256 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: I want a front page story in the New York Post. 257 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: But everyone else when they told their stories, it really 258 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: bonded everyone. There was a seventy five year old woman 259 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: who'd been married twice and her biggest regret was with 260 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,959 Speaker 1: her second husband before he died. She just wasn't interested 261 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: in sex. We were all crying because she was like, 262 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: I want to reclaim sex again and enjoy it. I 263 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: was like, yes, girl, she's getting on the data. She 264 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: was incredible. So there was like women. There was a 265 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: twenty two year old there and there was a seventy 266 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: five year old there. 267 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 2: So what happens at orgasm camp? And was it a success? There? 268 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 3: Are how many people were taking this course with. 269 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: Sean women, Pamela, the sexologists and caught the male. 270 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 2: Sexologists fifteen thousand dollars to hopefully, you know, reach the 271 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 2: finish line. 272 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 3: Let's get into it. 273 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 2: Okay, what happens at this kind of retreat? 274 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: I mean the question is what doesn't happen? 275 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 3: Good point? Where did it start? Then? 276 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: Okay, it started with a tantric meditation and this is 277 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: when I went, oh, they're not mucking around here. So 278 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: you're told at brunch get into any clothes that make 279 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: you feel comfortable, or if you want to go naked. 280 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 1: And I was like, oh god, I've got a photography here, 281 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: I can I get naked. But a lot of the 282 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: women so everyone wore like cute lace underwear, cute lace bras, 283 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 1: but within minutes everyone had taken it off and didn't 284 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: know what for fifteen thousand dollars, just get naked. 285 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 3: You're going to do it to it properly? 286 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: Leaning Yeah, So first of all, we had to get 287 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: in groups, so we each had a partner and we 288 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:57,839 Speaker 1: had to go back to back, and then we were 289 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: told to put our hands on our volve, and then 290 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: we had to rock back and forth and talk to 291 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: our volvers and tell them what we want to be 292 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: and what we think of our volvers. So I was 293 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: like boss, bitch, Queen of the jungle. I was like, yes, girl, 294 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: get it. And so everyone's chanting out all this stuff. 295 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: But then we got the gigglers, because what. 296 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 3: Did you hear other people saying to their volvers? 297 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: Oh my god, what didn't I hear? 298 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 5: One girl started crying, She's like, I'm just really thankful 299 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 5: for you. Others were like, you bring children into this world. 300 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 5: But then we had to lie down on mats and 301 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 5: they put blind folds on us. Then you lie on 302 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 5: mats and the helpers and Court and Pamela go around 303 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 5: and at first they'll like. 304 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: Drag shells across your body. It's called somatic touch, so 305 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: you're finding out what turns you on. Or they'll do 306 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: like wooden claws really gently, and then they start upping 307 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,119 Speaker 1: it and not. And so at one stage, with permission, 308 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: I had caught time my ankles and my wrists together. 309 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: It's called shabari rope play. Okay, it's a Japanese thing. 310 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: And then he pinned me up like a pressed ham 311 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: and then bent me over and growled in my ear. 312 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: And I should have hated it. I loved it, like, oh, 313 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: now I know we're into shabari play. But what I 314 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: didn't expect was while they were doing with the touch 315 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: and play, women actually started having orgasms straight away, straight away. 316 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: So then I was like, oh God, am I going 317 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: to reach one? Like should be trying, But I was 318 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: aware of the photographer, your post photographer taking pictures of 319 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: me and the women around me. So then that was 320 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: the first day, but then it went crazier. Day two 321 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: was when we really got into the nitty gritty. So 322 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: we were given notepads and we were told to take notes. 323 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: I was reading some to you before we started. The 324 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: whole point of the retreat is to expose you to 325 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: new ways to find an orgasmic state. Peking is building 326 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: arousal and then slowing down and then building again, like a. 327 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 3: Real change of pace I'm getting from. 328 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: The The reason I wrote those notes is because I 329 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: saw it play out in real life. So then Court 330 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: and Pamela. 331 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 2: Who are the workers, They're they're they're they're the instructors, 332 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 2: if you will, sex ologists. 333 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: Yep, uh, he's ninety percent gay. Okay that he said 334 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: that ten percent is fun. She's married and her husband. 335 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: We're all in a temple. They get naked. He brings 336 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: her to orgasm. 337 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 3: What in front of you? 338 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're all they're with our notepads. You just read 339 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: my notes. That's the notes they took as he was 340 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: bringing her to orgasm and her husband was out the 341 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: front the whole time, watering the gardens. 342 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 2: So you said earlier that there were almost breakout rooms 343 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 2: where you could go for one on one sessions. Yeah, 344 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 2: I'm assuming that there were women that could go for 345 00:16:56,440 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 2: one on one sessions with either of the sexologists, either both, 346 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 2: and that happened. 347 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that happens. That's for the fifteen thousand dollars. So 348 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: for three day retreats like seven hundred dollars, and the 349 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: only touching is the somatic touch where they like put 350 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: shells over you or whisper in your ear. For the 351 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: fifteen thousand dollars, you have one on one sessions, one 352 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 1: a day for seven days, if you choose whether they 353 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 1: will bring you. 354 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 2: To orgasm them all right, I feel like this is 355 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 2: the obvious question, and it's the question I wanted to 356 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 2: ask from the moment I saw this on a run sheet. 357 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 2: Did you climb Mount Overest? Did you reach the finish line? 358 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 1: I did not. I was the only girl at Orgasm 359 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 1: Camp not to reach an orgasm. No award, no gold medal, 360 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: and they did drive out of that desert, so disappointed 361 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: in myself in a week later. 362 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 2: If that makes it doesn't count one hour in one 363 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 2: hour ago, I mean time flies when you're having find it. 364 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 2: It's been a wonderful first hour and we're still on 365 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 2: the air, which is quite incredible given what we've already 366 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 2: talked about. 367 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 3: Welcome to Saucy Secrets. This is our. 368 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 2: First ever episode with dating and sex calmness. Janna hockeing, Hey, 369 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 2: feeling very comfortable. 370 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I remember a happy place. That's seck good. 371 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 2: This is also an educational show in case, in case 372 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 2: you were wondering, in case you're listening, in case you're watching, 373 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 2: and we're going to give you an education shortly about. 374 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 3: How not to get caught in a brothel. 375 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: Very important. 376 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know the dos and don'ts if you are 377 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 2: planning on making that decision in your life. 378 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 3: We will do that in just a moment. 379 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 2: But one of the things I guess that help you 380 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 2: become the sex and dating corners that you are today was, 381 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 2: you know, getting confessions from Instagram followers. And this is 382 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 2: kind of how this whole journey started, right. 383 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I was just bored one Monday night and 384 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm going to I've got a decent following. 385 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: They're all pretty open if they follow me, we want to. 386 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 3: Know all about here for it. 387 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And so he just threw a question out 388 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: and said, tell me a saucy secret. You can be anonymous. 389 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: Told me secrets and I'll share them with the audience. 390 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 1: It really took off. Yeah, and through momentum, and then 391 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: every Monday, if I put them out even five minutes late, 392 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 1: people like, where are saucy secrets? 393 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 2: So what we thought we'd do on this show every 394 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 2: week you share some of your saucy secrets as well. 395 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 2: And we are literally starting with a bang tonight. Someone 396 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 2: that was married for a really, really really long time. 397 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 2: The marriage ends, she goes, let's have some fun, and thought, 398 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 2: I'm going to do it with two blocks. 399 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: At sometimes why not. 400 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 2: I've rid in our first saucy secret. Next, I guess 401 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 2: this whole career that you've been able to create and 402 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 2: it's landed you here on the radio. Started with just 403 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 2: a simple Q and A on an Instagram one Monday night, 404 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 2: and look at where it's got to now. 405 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: It was lockdown. I was bored, I was slightly horny. 406 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: I wanted to know people's saucy secrets, so I asked 407 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 1: them and they came flowing in and now we've got 408 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: a national. 409 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 2: Radio showy, So we thought, let's let's get the DMS 410 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 2: onto the air to find out what's happening in the 411 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 2: bedrooms of those all around Australia and really exciting to say, 412 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 2: we have our what are we going to our first 413 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 2: saucy secret here? 414 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 1: Yeah? 415 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 3: Do we like that? 416 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: She's popping our cherry and I'm very happy about it? 417 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 3: Good. Yeah? 418 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: What should we call her? Because she wants to be anonymous. 419 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 2: That's a really sexy name. I was gonna say, Charlotte's 420 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 2: sexy name. 421 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: I keep thinking Candy Candy. 422 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:30,199 Speaker 2: Okay, would you like to pick your own alias? 423 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 3: It's completely up to you. Saucy secrety' I think Charlotte's nice. 424 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 2: There we go, all right, classy, we've got Charlotte with us. 425 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 3: Take it away. 426 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: So, Charlotte, you met your husband at twenty nine years old, 427 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: and we're married to him for twenty years, and I 428 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: want to get to your secret from My main question 429 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: is I struggle to stay with the guy for twenty days. 430 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: How do you do it for twenty years? 431 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 4: Yeah? Life has changed nowadays. It's a throwaway society marriage wife. 432 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 4: I think probably to the social media. But yes, it 433 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 4: was a struggle and probably why he strayed eventually. 434 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 1: Tell us. 435 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 4: I think I was reading an article in a magazine 436 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 4: one day about a woman who had a reason. So 437 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,719 Speaker 4: she mentioned the name of the site and I followed 438 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 4: up on that. I was curious, and that's when things 439 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 4: really changed for me because I wasn't really into mainstream 440 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 4: dating sites because I wasn't really after a relationship at first. 441 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 4: So I discovered this sex site online and that really 442 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 4: changed my life for the better. I think, all. 443 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 3: Right, I'm just going to say it. I'm going to 444 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 3: say it. 445 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 2: All right, Charlotte, you're beating around the bush and I've 446 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 2: got on this piece of paper. 447 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 3: What it is that you did is true. 448 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 4: Yes, that you had an. 449 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 2: Encounter special cuddle with two other people in the room 450 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 2: at the same time two men died. 451 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 4: Yes, it was actually much better than what I expected. 452 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 4: It was just amazing. It was one of the nicest 453 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 4: experiences actually, because. 454 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 1: I always wonder like, is it awkward where people put 455 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: their hands where they know, you know what? 456 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 4: It just flowed. I think there was one there that 457 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 4: who had actually been experienced in this field before, so yes, 458 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 4: he was the one who was sort of guarding the way. 459 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 4: It just made it really really easy. 460 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 1: So you need a team leader to kind of steer 461 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 1: the ship and then you just go with it. And 462 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 1: not to be true, but I'm going to ask the 463 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: question that everyone wants to know it was two men? 464 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: Was there any crossing swords? 465 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 4: Not at all. No. One was sort of sitting probably, 466 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 4: you know, watching for a little bit while the action 467 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 4: was happening. 468 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: Oh, that's very And then what's it like afterwards? Do 469 00:22:56,080 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: you shake hands? Is there a sleepover? You'll be sure 470 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: to know. I've never had a threesome. 471 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 4: I am shocked. I'm very shocked. I think we could 472 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 4: talk about this another time off air. 473 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 3: By the sounds of things, if you want. 474 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 4: Honestly, yeah, if I can plan it for you, I 475 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 4: can organize it. 476 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 2: Oh wow, So how long ago was this? It has 477 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 2: there been another one since? 478 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: Yeah? 479 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 4: No, there hasn't been another one that was probably maybe 480 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 4: six months ago. There hasn't as yet, but never say never. 481 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: Wow, And not to be rude, but can I ask 482 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: your age? 483 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 4: I am r. 484 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you had your first threesome in your mid 485 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: fifties exactly. 486 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,360 Speaker 4: I I don't know what's around the corner. I think 487 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 4: once I hit menopause, I became very sexual. I haven't 488 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 4: needed to be fed. Yes, it was like my sex 489 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 4: strike went through the roof, and I think I've been 490 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 4: having fun ever since. 491 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 1: There's got to be some upside to menopause. 492 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 4: Of course, I've got another. 493 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: Friend who said that. She said, because we all think 494 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: that women lose their libidos and a lot of the cads. 495 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 4: Okay, every woman is different, but I wasn't expecting this. 496 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 4: I've certainly made up that's the next th. 497 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 2: Reason being organized in the background. Better picked that one up. 498 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 3: You don't want to miss it. 499 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 2: Hey, Charlotte, thank you so much for being our very 500 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 2: first saucy secrete. 501 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: We appreciate. 502 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 2: Brothels next topic of conversation on the show tonight. It's 503 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 2: not something that I've had anything to do with. It's 504 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 2: not a place that I frequent, but apparently, not only 505 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 2: is it incredibly common, but there are weird and wonderful 506 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 2: ways that men are getting caught in set establishments. 507 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: Listen, they do say that men have two options. They 508 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: think through their brain or they think through their pants, 509 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: and they cannot think with both at the same time. 510 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 3: Men can't multitask. Let's be honest. 511 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: No, they really can't, and thank god because it makes 512 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: for a great story. So this brothel owner, cord Catherine 513 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: de Noir, so she's come out and she's spoken to 514 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: a journalist and told of the many different ways men 515 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: have been caught at her brothel, and she's had screaming 516 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: wives turning up demanding not good for business, not great 517 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 1: for business, but great for us. So she's said that, 518 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: she said a lot of men get caught by leaving 519 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: their phone location on. So you're married, do you have 520 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: Find my Friends with your wife? 521 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 2: No? 522 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 3: I don't. I've never never had it at all, really no, never. 523 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: Well you need to check that because actually now a 524 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 1: lot of wives are putting air tags in their men's. 525 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 2: Maybe because I'm really boring and she knows that I'm 526 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 2: not going to go anywhere and do anything, so there's 527 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 2: no real need. 528 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: Well, a lot of people do they have Find my Friends' 529 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 1: locations on with their partners, And these men just forget 530 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: to turn them off, and then all of a sudden 531 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 1: their wife is like, why is my husband at the 532 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: White Rabbit? 533 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 4: Oh? 534 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 1: This other way that men are finding out is so dumb. 535 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: So they're withdrawing large sums of money from the car's 536 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: joint account. That seems silly to me, but from the 537 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 1: brothel atm because. 538 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 2: You can see that on your bank statement where it's 539 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 2: been withdrawn from. 540 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're turning up in brothels. She said, there 541 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: was one man that directly transferred from his joint bank 542 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 1: account with his partner to a personal account of the 543 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: sex worker he was seeing. 544 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 3: What do you think that comes up as on the statement. 545 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: A tricksy bell or candy. 546 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 2: From your experience, you know, with sex and dating and 547 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff, is brothel visits? 548 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 3: Is it a common thing? 549 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:37,360 Speaker 1: Super common? Super common? She also put in how men 550 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 1: are actually getting away with being to brothels, and I 551 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: found that more interesting than the men that are getting caught. 552 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,679 Speaker 1: So she said things like men will come during their 553 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: lunch breaks. See, I'm telling you lunch breaks are I think. 554 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 2: I mean a lot of men are sprinters. I guess 555 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 2: it's not exactly a marathon, so they don't need time, right. 556 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: It does not surprise, yeah at all. They're leaving their 557 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: phone in the office, they're turning off their shed occasion. 558 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: I love that a lot of men are getting money 559 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: out at ATMs, really really far from a brothel. 560 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 3: It's a lot of admin, isn't it. It's a lot 561 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 3: of admin for the. 562 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: Best two minutes of their lives, right, yeah, yeah, so oh, 563 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 1: She said, they also bring cash. They never withdraw money nearby, 564 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,679 Speaker 1: They keep no receipts, and they take a shower after 565 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: this session. So there's no sense that feels like a 566 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: no brainer, right, I mean, that's just good manners. 567 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 2: Wider blokes do this because it feels like it's really 568 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 2: fraught with danger. 569 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it really is. But for a lot of men. 570 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: I get a lot of men slide into my DMS 571 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: and tell me why. Most of them are usually my 572 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: wife doesn't want to have sex anymore. She's lost her libido, 573 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: she's not interested. I'm still a man, I still have needs. 574 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 1: But then there are other men who have kinks that 575 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 1: they want to explore, and they don't feel comfortable doing 576 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: it with their wives, so they go explore these kinks elsewhere. 577 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 1: That's the most common. 578 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 2: So instead of just having you know, probably an uncomfortable 579 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 2: conversation with their partner, they go, no, wait a minute, 580 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 2: the best way to deal with this is to go 581 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 2: and sleep with someone else out of brothel and go 582 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 2: through all those outrageous steps you outlined before to completely 583 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 2: get away with it and lead a double lot. 584 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Well, then there's just the men who just 585 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 1: want to feel like a legend. Oh and they're still 586 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 1: getting it at home. They're in perfectly loving marriages, but 587 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: they want to feel like a real legend. 588 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 3: Bloods luods, luds, bluds lads. 589 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 2: Let's get into the needy gritty, the stats, the details. 590 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 2: What is it that gets Australians going in the bedroom 591 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 2: because we have got the sex census data in. 592 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 3: Front of us. 593 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: Yes, So the biggest question was what is Australia's top 594 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: turn on? And I call utter bullshit on this one 595 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: because last year it was everyone was turned on by threes? 596 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: IM sure, okay, I get that, But this year the 597 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: biggest turn on was slow build, romantic seduction, snare. 598 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 3: Romance is sexy as well? What do you mean? 599 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: I want to know who they asked, because I just 600 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: don't believe that the biggest turn on was like, you 601 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: look really pretty. Let's have sluic. 602 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 2: People filling out forms in front of their partners. That's 603 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 2: probably who's written that. Oh no, I'm all about the romance. 604 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: You're so right, you're so right. There was another interesting one, 605 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: so one in three Aussies say their sexuality has become 606 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: more open and fluid over time. Okay, I would believe that. 607 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: Another one was, oh this is not surprising missionary and 608 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: doggie style are still the most common sexual positions deployed 609 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: by the nation. Yeah, that's true, Like sometimes you just 610 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: want comfort. Oh, this one upset me. Oral sex is 611 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: more common in casual relationships than it is for long 612 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: term unions. 613 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 2: Why is that because it's naughty and exciting? So when 614 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 2: you first meet someone, I don't know. Is it because 615 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 2: you're the expert? 616 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 3: Why are you asking me? 617 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: Well, I think at the start you're really trying to 618 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: impress each other. Yeah, so you're going to that extra 619 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: evert Now, I haven't been in a long. 620 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 3: Term you have nothing to write about if that was 621 00:29:58,520 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 3: the case. 622 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: You know, I've been in a situationship and we are 623 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: very giving in our situationships. So to find out that, 624 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: like couples aren't giving each other oral sex anymore just 625 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: makes me sad. 626 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe that relates to one of these other stats. 627 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 2: And to be honest, I looked at this and was 628 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 2: somewhat surprised that sixty four percent of people are satisfied 629 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 2: with their sex lives. 630 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 3: Does that feel high? 631 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 2: Group? 632 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: No, that feels grim. Why I thought it was. 633 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 3: High for some reason? 634 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:22,239 Speaker 2: What? 635 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 3: Yeah? 636 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: No? 637 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 2: Now, sex tech has become a thriving industry as well. 638 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got what'sapp groups we've named after our favorite 639 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: sex toy. 640 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 3: Really, obviously all juju sex toys naturally. 641 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: Is what there are, obviously, especially this purple one. Here 642 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: is the it listen. I've been using it all week 643 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 1: and it's incredible. It's called the one too, and I 644 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: highly recommend it and it comes in a pretty purple color. 645 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 2: Forty three percent of Aussies are using vibrators regularly or occasionally. 646 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: I think that's a very polite estimate. 647 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 3: Do you think it's higher than that? 648 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: Well, I did a check with all my girlfriends and 649 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: I would say it's eighty percent and a lot of 650 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: them I didn't use one until lockdown yep, and lockdown 651 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: was low. 652 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 2: I'm assuming most of the time they're used when it's 653 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 2: a person on their own, but how often are they 654 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 2: being used and brought into the bedroom with a sexual partner? 655 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: Not necessarily. I know a lot of guys that get 656 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 1: off on watching their partner use one, But then I 657 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: also know a lot of guys who are intimidated by it. Yeah, 658 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: my ask Johnna Colum. We get at least one question 659 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: a week. That's my wife brought a vibrator into the bedroom. 660 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: I'm so horrified, how can I compete? I had one 661 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: guy message me once and he was like, my wife 662 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 1: got a really, really big one and now I can't 663 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 1: get it up because I'm. 664 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 2: So dron and they've got batteries that, let's be honest, 665 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 2: most blokes cannot keep up with. If you are looking 666 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 2: to bring sex tech into the bedroom, there obviously is 667 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 2: an obvious place to turn, and that is the Legends 668 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 2: at Juju joyou dot com dot Au will be mentioning 669 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 2: all show that we do have one to give away, 670 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,479 Speaker 2: and we've got one. We've got one here. It is 671 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 2: the we Vibe wand two. Before we tell people how 672 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 2: to win this, you've given this a crack, You've road 673 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:06,479 Speaker 2: tested it. 674 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: Yes, Now this is designed for the clean and that's 675 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: where a lot of women will be brought to August. 676 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 3: This giant thing is designed for don't. 677 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: Be deceived by how big it is. You just want 678 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 1: to place it at see the go. 679 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 3: I'm already getting intimidated by it. 680 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: No, I swear it's really really good. So I used it. Sadly, 681 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 1: I am so tragically single at the moment, so I 682 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 1: just used it on myself. It really did the job 683 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: for me this week ten stars. 684 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 2: So if you want to pick up one of these 685 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 2: we vibe ones from the legends at juju Kiss dot 686 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 2: com dot I, you jump on there now. We can 687 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 2: send it your way, not the ones that we've been handling. 688 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 2: By the way, it to be beautifully clean. 689 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: We'll keep those. 690 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 2: Hey, that's the first show done. We got there. We're 691 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 2: still on air, I know, right, I mean, who knows. 692 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 2: The plug might have been pulled and we're just sitting 693 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 2: in here yapping on thank you. 694 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 3: That was fun. 695 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 1: I loved it. I loved every second. Egress